*HP dv6z AMD Llano (6XXX series) Owners Lounge*

LOL, I've been married twice, and my current wife isn't overly happy I'll be gone a year. Going over to do electrical work on the bases, can't even touch a weapon I'm too old to go back in the corps (out since the 80s). No work here so have to go make good money over there.

 

Add a little bit for stability. The bare minimum that passes intelburn still causes occasional crashes.

 

I would try to run your games, if they crash, add

Seer

 

Well RATZ!!!! (not u undead) The God of Benchmarks HATES ME!!!!! lol
I had an idea, made a change and ran 3dmark11....wonders of wonders it got thru the physix screen made it all the way thru, i plugged in my external modem and whooosh.....I was SOOOOOOOOO SURE, I'd finally grabbed the p2200 brass ring...I mean as I watched the test i was seeing great numbers across the board...zoom zoom zoom. temps where hanging low...everything was just ROLLING>...

so I hit the button to log in to get the online score.....and.......and.....
wait for it........

P2199.....RFLAMO. THEN what's worse, i was so mad i hit the wrong button and killed the 3dmark11 and lost the score page...funnier than hell. Oh well, it was only 2 points higher than my previous 2197...but still...
gawwd and i was so sure it was going to come up 2210 or something...oh well..time for a drink

Seer

 

seer - if you get a chance take a look at my youtube of my FT and Cinebench.

http://forum.notebookreview.com/hp-...xxx-series-owners-lounge-250.html#post7878378

 

ok...what did you want me to look for in the vid?

 

just showing that I'm not crazy.

Just showing how my system runs, that it doesn't boost but one core. Maybe I'm missing something?

 

hi , i'have a dv6z with a83510mx but the max frequency is always 1800, how works turbo mode?

 

ok with cpuz show me 2500 mhz

 

hehehehe your first foray into the inaccuracy of most utilities when dealing with the specs on the amd llano based chips.
Welcome to the club

seer

 

amd overdrive don't work , for fan speed voltages and other what can i use?

 

Man, you have some reading to do. Start searching this thread. There are two main cpu overclocking utils, K10stat and FusionTweaker. For the dedicated gpu you have Saphire Trixx or MSI's Afterburner. Good luck

seer

 

I have a question about the 6755G2 chipset (6750M + 6620G)... (AMD A8-3500M)

Whenever I go to the AMD Drivers Download I can't find the drivers for both chipsets. Apparently 6xxxM is not the correct option when downloading the drivers? Anyone know how they got their's to work?
Something like "Your computer does not have a proper graphics adapter"

 

I think when I was trying 11-8 I went to the "mobility radeon" set below and to the left on that initial drivers page. Under that went for the 64bit driver

Seer

 

The one to the right That is listed under "Mobility Radeon" with options 32bit and 64bit Windows 7/Vista?

Yeah, I tried that but that doesn't actually install drivers, just catalyst AI, seems to me like they remained 8.32.0xxx
My guess is that they haven't come out with Vision drivers for dual cards yet?

 

Un-freaking-believable.

Whew, amazing what a little patience, dremel tool, heatsinks, and laptop cooler can do.

Went from Bad Company 2 running at 90C at 2.2GHz down to 70C!!! Downside is that even with cooler temps the game locks up on occasion.

Got my heatsinks in finally, and my replacement cooler Notepal U2. However, I am exchanging the U2 for a U3 because with the 9-cell, it fits nicely in the notch at the top of the cooler, but it's off centered and off the edge of the cooler, so difficult to cool the GPU. The U3 is wider, plus has three fans. Should be here middle of next week.

In any case, I am quite pleased with the result. Now I will be making it look pretty and put something protective over the gaping holes that I cut out there.

So what did I do?

(1) Repasted with IC Diamond
(2) Cut open "breathing holes" at the CPU and GPU, basically where existing vent was (albeit very restricted)
(3) Sanded the paint off the CPU and GPU heatsinks and heatpipes
(4) Attached heatsinks (modified thickness using a dremel tool for available clearance) along the CPU and GPU heatsinks and heatpipes
(5) Used a laptop cooler Notepal U2.

Next steps:
(1) Put a protective "breathable" cover over the CPU and GPU modified "breathing holes"
(2) Add more heatsinks along the entire heatpipe to the fan
(3) Add heatsinks to the GPU RAM modules
(4) Tune CPU vs temp curve for best performance.

Here's what it looks like right now.

Spoiler

 

Try this:

AMD Catalyst? Control Center / AMD Vision? Engine Control Center 11.8 Driver Preview for Windows 7 64-Bit Edition

or this one for the whql final

http://www.techspot.com/drivers/driver/file/information/15466/



seer

 

So how did you do it? With EzH2O? And do you think it's possible to find the string for the 1.00v of the dGPU and edit that one too?

With my old 6770m I was able to run 890 core-clock @ 1.05v and 933 @ 1.1v. The latter one was good for a 3DMark2011 score of P1900 (1750 GPU). And I didn't even try higher voltages...
If we could do that with our 6750s, we'd be at 2300 or 2400 points in crossfire at notime! ;-)

 

Nice! Does it keep the dGPU active all the time or does it deactivate it when you're not using it?

 

Hmm I'm not clear how you are going to set to 800/900. do you mean in the bios itself? If so, did Musho open up a tab in bios that lets you set the timings on the card? or are you still going to be using afterburner etc.

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One other thing, I'm soooo surprised that no one has said anything about my new avatar LOL. I just assumed it is so off the wall that everyone would go 'WTH?" and say something, sooo, to save anyone who was at least curious, yes, that's actually me, out 'evangelizing' but in this case, was a stage production where I played "John The Baptist"

seer

 

Woot! This gets better!

Cut out a hole beneath the fan and now I can play without a laptop cooler, remains <74C

Here's the mod and finished product. My dremel job had a LOT to be desired, I couldn't keep the cutting bit steady for some reason and slipped once so you see the slight notch.

Spoiler

 

I think Musho just edited the BIOS and changed the maximum frequency of the GPU. I don't think the frequencies are user adjustable short of flashing a new BIOS with edited frequencies.

Btw you can get your core freq up to 800? Mine starts artifacting past 760... But I can get my mem frequency up to 950 (about to test it even higher).

 

R3, i was quoting and responding to someone else. Mine seems to be ok at around 792 on the core, and i can get 840 or so on the mem before things get twitchy. There is also another plateau that seems to be available but I don't fool around much there anymore.

seer

 

Odd... I tried your link, and this time, windows showed its colors... was blocking my driver update from an "invalid publisher." Been a while since I've had this problem.

Thumbs up for you.
Thumbs down to windows.

Drivers are now at 8.880.3, but the name changed to "6600M and 6700M Series" for the 6750M card, I'm guessing this is normal.

Regardless, thanks a ton!

 

np

seer

Man, that sure opened her up But I'm curious, with the hole directly over the fan, I gather its no longer drawing air thru the chassis, or did you conclude it wasn't drawing enough air to spit in he first place

Oh, one other thing Wing, you posted a link to a ulps control utility awhile back. I went to take a look at it, and my anti spy utilities really sounded off. It has a back door trojan in it, so you might want to run a scan with your own utilities to see if he 'gotcha'.

Seer

 

Meh, I've long since reformatted since then. Thanks for the heads up though.

ULPS is ON for me now, no need to turn it off. I'm using all 1.8 drivers. No need to overclock at the moment.

Yes, I found that very little air was moving over the CPU and GPU. So little in fact, I took a piece of tissue paper before I cut it open to see if there was enough suction, and it wouldn't even hold the tissue in place, showed me there's no airflow.

I cut that slot in the fan shroud to push air over the CPU and GPU but that only heated up the rest of the machine. I have since put high temp electrical tape over it. But now that I cut the hole under the fan, I may take it off and see if it helps. Now it should be pushing cooler air than just recirculating hot air. I just don't feel like reopening my laptop up, sigh. I'm good at it now lol, but I'm afraid after at least a half dozen disassemblies and reassemblies that it will fall apart. But still holding strong, surprisingly. I'm waiting on some more heatsinks, should be here next week, then I'll heatsink the GPU RAM and along the heatpipes and open it up then. Problem is if the palmrest gets too warm again, then I'll have to open it up ONE MORE TIME to put tape back over the fan slot.

 

Ht, which heat sinks did you order and how much did you have to shave to make them fit? I was thinking of doing something similar but not as drastic.

 

I decided to make a DV6z cooling mod thread.

http://forum.notebookreview.com/hp-...z-cooling-mod-thread-warning-lots-photos.html

These are the heatsinks I bought (actually already had them):

Newegg.com - Swiftech MC14 Copper Heatsinks only

They took a lot more trimming that I expected. Just be sure to clean them off VERY well after you cut them. I had copper dust EVERYWHERE. So I used compressed air and then doused them with alcohol using a toothbrush. Just be sure not to get it on the adhesive pad. Or it will lose its stickiness.

I ordered some of these from Fleabay: http://www.ebay.com/itm/280730211387

I figure these will be good on the vRAM chips and along the heatpipes.

Along with some thermal tape: http://www.ebay.com/itm/180592168677

and copper shims: http://www.ebay.com/itm/230511291628

I normally have a bunch of this stuff handy but was out of stock. I used the thermal double sided tape to secure my fan grille, and probably won't need the copper shims, but maybe in a couple tight places, like the one vRAM chip that's under the GPU heatpipe.

 

Best Buy model(A8 3500), 78 degrees room temperature, Belkin laptop cooler(1 fan)...2204 combined score

I only changed P0 and P1 and no voltages because I'm planning on leaving the laptop as is once i'm done testing.

You can see everything else on the pictures





and new record graphic score of 2339 haha!

time for sleep

 

Holy crap, 980MHz graphics mem? You got lucky there. I can't do more than 900. Shows that CPU doesn't mean much to that score because me running P0 2.4 / B0 2.8, GPU 800/GPU MEM 900 I get a little over 2100.

Plus 11.6 drivers have issues for me with several games that 11.8 do not so I'm sticking with 11.8 which means NO OVERCLOCKING. Hopefully there will be newer drivers that allow for overclocking soon.

 

Man I wish I could get my graphics up near that. I max at 780 core /850 mem

 

Guys, anyone could provide us with screenshot of AIDA's southbridge (hudson) tab. I would wanna know what bandwith have pci-e ports. Is it still x1.0 implementation or newest x2.0, like on s.b platform?

 

Is this what you are looking for?

 

And I already max out at 770core for benchmarking, and stable gaming at just 730 :-(

That's why we need the bios overvolting I asked for.
So mushu and kR105, any news on the bios front?

 

Yes, something like that, but I would prefere screenshot from AIDA, I found it more accurate.

 

800/900 is pretty stable for me, but was running 780/880 for a while to to keep temps reasonable and also ensure stability. I don't use 11.6 now anyhow because their performance is not great with the few games I play. Maybe will mess with the BIOS and lock my clocks in that way.

 

With the help of kR105, I managed to make my modded bios flashable. If you want, I can create a custom bios for you with the clocks you want? Just tell me what core clock speed you want, and memory clock, and I'll see what I can do. Shouldn't take too long to mod =]

Here's a screenshot by kR105 running my modded bios, with CCC reporting the 610/810 clock speeds: http://forum.notebookreview.com/hp-...xxx-series-owners-lounge-243.html#post7872660

 

Hmm, haven't looked into overvolting yet, but it could very much be possible. Chances of bricking will be much higher though. Could you post a screenshot of GPU-Z's sensor tab? Want to see what the default voltage is, if GPU-z is able to read that. Thanks!

 

Okay, some great news! A page back or something like that I saw someone mentioned 1.00v is the default voltage for the 6750, and I've indeed managed to find where this value is moddable! Now the big question is whether a change is going to stick or not.

What do people want me to do? Try a mod with 1.05v? 1.1v? Anyone willing to test such a mod out? I obviously take no responsibility if anything goes wrong, but I can safely say I know what I'm doing. I just don't know yet whether this higher value is supported in the hardware or not.

Lemme know if anyone is interested in helping us find out if the higher voltage works or not

 

I doubt that 1.05 would hurt anything. You might consider checking with the 't' Dv6 guys and see what voltage their 6770m's are running as its the same silicon, and they are clocked way above our 6750 version.

Seer

 

It's not so much with hurting the silicon. I'm wondering if the circuit board and the VRMs support feeding the chip higher than 1.00v. Only one way to find out Any brave souls? Should I create a bios with 1.05v first to be on the safe side? See if it works and if it improves overclocking.

 

1.05 is stock for a 6770m while 1.00 is stock for a 6750m, iirc. They both share pretty much the same core, so 1.05 shouldn't be a problem.

edit: how are you editing the BIOS? if you could made a quick guide on how edit it might be a lot easier for other people to just do some testing without having to bother you to make the custom bios.

 

Con Grats!!! that is amazing... you have confirmed what I always thought, if I could just get the damned 6750 clocks up, 2300 would even be possible. Like Wing, I'm also a bit surprised that the cpu part apparently has minimal impact on the overall 3dmark11 score. I don't recall exactly, but I believe my physix score is some what, 45 percent higher than yours? jeez. Oh, if i could only replace the ram on that 6750 hehehe,

Well, you've blown thru the p2200 barrier and blown the graphics record all to hell so job well done. That you did it with the lesser 3500 is even more amazing. Hat's off (and o'clocking crown too for that matter LOL) to you, the NEW 'Dv6z "ZORRO"' LOL

seer

 

Here it is: F20 1.05v.zip

As you can probably guess, it has the 6750m running at 1.05v.
Unzip the contents of the zip file and run the InsydeFlash.exe
Please let us know how much hotter your GPU is running, and more importantly, how much higher you are able to overclock! Thanks!

 

Thanks seer, I've spent almost a week trying to read the whole 200 and some pages since I got the laptop. When I was looking at the scores you guys were getting it seemed to me that the graphic score was the limiting factor (considering how high your physics scores were). So I figured that if I was able to push the GPU then the combined score would go up.

I was using the 11.6a drivers for anyone that wants to give it a try. But I do upgrade to 11.8 to play games.

Can anyone get the Xilisoft video converter to recognize the 6750 under the configuration menu? I also own a i5 460m and I was comparing video conversion (which I use to change movies to my itouch format) with the 3500 at stock frequencies. The program allows you to use a special feature called APP to convert the videos faster but I'm not sure if our card has this feature.

Xilisoft Video Converter, DVD Ripper, iPad, iPod video converter, AVI to DVD

At stock frequencies my i5 finishes 6 minutes quicker on a 1h and 50min video.

 

Thanks! I may take you up on that. Better start on the safe side and run 750/850. What tools to use to flash? Are you also able to remove the wifi card whitelist?

A 1.05V would be nice too but will hold off on that until I make sure my system is cool enough as is.

 

What's the best program to use to determine what voltage the video card is running at now? GPUz is reporting mine at .9v maybe that's why I can't get mmy video core and mem any higher.

 

I haven't changed the clock speeds, so it's going to run at stock clocks with this bios. You can use software overclocking methods to slowly see if there's an improvement in what clocks you are able to reach (Be sure to keep an eye on the temperatures!). Once you've found the speed you are happy with, you can report it here, and I can create a bios with those values There's already a modded bios with the whitelist removed. If you want, I can combine those 2 later, but it's going to be a waste of my time to do it now, while we are still testing the possibilities.

Edit: You can use the tools included in the download to flash. It runs from within windows, and is the official tool from HP to flash the bios. Make sure you are running stock clocks on your CPU when you flash, just to be sure.

Edit2: You can also check if GPU-z detects that it's running at a higher voltage. I'm not sure if it's a surefire way to see if it worked though.

 

Make sure you are monitoring the voltage while it's running a 3d program. It's running a lower voltage when it's idling! 0.90v is indeed it's idle voltage.

 

I'm very interested to see if this has an effect.. The .05v volt mod on the m11x actually had huge overclocking gains.