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Same here. It seems hit or miss sometimes too. One time it'll work great, next time it spikes. I'm just going to stick without crossfire, seems to work well for me. AMD better get on the ball with better xfire drivers though. They'd have a great thing here if it actually worked.

 

Could you send me the F.18 as well. I deleted all the hp stuff

 

I have found that I have much better results with moderate 6750 overclocks in general use however that is easy to check. overclock the hell out of your dedicated, deploy System Monitor or Afterburner with the gpu 1 and 2 monitoring activated, then run the first test or two of 3dmark11. hit escape and immediately check out your monitoring graphs and see what you have, spikes or plateaus. Now amd knows all about 3dmark11 and I believe dual graphics is properly configured for it, just like those configuration patches add special setups for other common internet and /or graphics apps. So if you can get a plateau there, that's as good as its going to get. Over time I think most of the other apps will receive their conf setup patches and all will be good. There are quite a good number of patches out there now.

One other thing tho, I did manage to get a pretty smooth set of plateaus on a dx9 run, which is not supposed to happen. until all the app patches come out, the dual graphics is going to run fine on many things, and less so on others.

seer

 

I dunno seer, even on stock clocks I can't get Xfire to work without spikes. I've tried most combinations. Actually I had it working once, it was smooth in 3DMark11 even, I rebooted, tried again and it kept bouncing, you could even see the graphics skipping because of it. It almost feels like something isn't always "catching" when a game launches.

 

I need your e-mail address to send it or you can download it here on the forum. Vect posted my download a few posts back

 

Don't you guys realize I uploaded the BIOS on page 276 -> http://www.multiupload.com/O92SID3NGP , <- the exact zip swat sent me that works fine

 

"When in doubt, reset to default
Wing, one of the things i think is happening is that the switchable graphics and xfire aren't playing well together. When you think about it, they are opposing concepts..and I don't think AMD thought about it long enough LOL.
changing the assignment of preferred gpu's has a dramatic effect while trying to run in xfire mode. If you try only allocating things you KNOW have to run on one gpu or the other, you can get reproduceable results.

I also agree that amd needs a lot of work on these drivers, unfortunately they've chosen FIRST to concentrate on squeezing a few extra bucks out of their customers by trying to lock down the overclocking so they can get some more bucks on their soon to be released black edition apus. I think that really sux, AND i think its really stupid. I hope someone gets demoted or fired over that decision.
I also think you are correct in observing that its almost like something doesn't 'catch' sometimes and sometimes it does. However, now that I've 'locked' down my settings on this one, as long as i just ignore further requests from the ccc to assign more programs to one gpu or the other, I get repeatable results. If I start assigning, then sooner or later i allocate someone that xfire doesn't like and boom, i'm toast again and time to hit the reset button.

You know rmac, what we need to do is get the 1.8, 1.D to Musho and have him run a compare on the them to the 2.0, one of the changes were to the fan speed and if he can figure out which register is setting the fan speed vs. Temperature, he could reset those to give us a fan profile that makes a LOT more sense. In the meantime, I'm going to send him the 1.8 and ask if he can give me a set of custom clocks so that as the drivers continue to be refined, I'll still be able to overclock with the better fan profile in 1.8 while taking advantage of the driver tuning that is sure to come.

Seer

 

Yeah, when I get the gumption, I'll completely uninstall and reinstall drivers because even when I "reset to default" my assigned apps don't clear out. It almost seems like where you choose the switchable graphics they should have: integrated GPU, dedicated GPU, crossfire. That way you know what you're getting.

On another note, I put heatsinks on the GPU RAM and so far no more lockups with Bad Company 2... coincidence? I couldn't put it on one because a heatpipe ran just over top of it. If my copper shims would get here, I would just put a copper shim on there at least something to dissipate heat.

 

a little question, avivo video converter is not present on amd vision control center, does not support apu?

 

Interesting response from Kingston after asking them about compatible DDR3 1600 RAM:

" Dear /HTWingNut/,

Thank you for your interest in Kingston Technology.

Please find below the link from our web site regarding specific information on the system that you referenced. Kingston's HyperX PnP will not be compatible with your HP because of the processor type.

Kingston Technology Company - Kingston Memory Search - Search Results for: "

That link only shows 1333MHz RAM compatible.

 

HT, I don't know why they told you that. They told me it would, and it does. I posted a screen shot a few pages back showing it in hwinfo64.

 

Ah, this post?

http://forum.notebookreview.com/hp-...xxx-series-owners-lounge-276.html#post7900489

What part number exactly did you order?

 

Sorry must have missed it

 

Here you go HT. Newegg.com - Kingston HyperX 8GB (2 x 4GB) 204-Pin DDR3 SO-DIMM DDR3 1600 HyperX Plug n Play Laptop Memory Model KHX1600C9S3P1K2/8G

I actually got it from Amazon for $78.

 

Yeah, if I got it, I would get it from Amazon, better return policy.

Also, I think I've nailed my issues with BFBC2 crashing. So far without MSI Afterburner running it doesn't crash. I'll check it some more. It's just nice to see the temps and gpu load live.

 

You realize BFBC2 has HUGE issues with extra DLL hooks being active while it's running? Essentially, it HATES overlays. Steam overlay, Afterburner overlay, etc really with it.

Learned this from many hours of BF BC2 crashing on my Asus and Alienware laptops. Hours and hours of research. Disable all overlays, hell, you can even use programs to check out all your dll hooks and what they're latched onto to make sure nothing is touching BC2.

 

Yeah I remember when first playing BFBC2 I would have occasional crashes using Steam, same with BF2. Turned off Steam in-game community and it didn't crash any more. I hate Steam in my games anyhow, too distracting to see names popping up who is starting what game and requesting chat is a big distraction.

 

Just ditch all your friends on there - problem solved.

 

Hey musho, are there any news regarding the volt mod?
I'm stuck here at P1584 (w/o xfire), while the returned DV6t got a P1848 @ 1.1v ...

 

You running crossfire?

 

Nope, to much stuttering or input lag for me...
I rather hope for more voltage and clockspeed for the dGPU. (and maybe an xfire AFR ratio mod to 1:3 frames)

 

I may have figured out a way to change the way Crossfire renders. I'll be testing it later today to see if Asymmetric Crossfire (which we use) gets better performance.

Also, using the 6620G on the A8's will result in less 'judder' (the effect all of you are experiencing with ACF, the way that the game feels slightly jerky at high FPS) since the reason it occurs is because one card is rendering frames faster than the other. Unfortunately on the HP DV6z, the 6750m is much faster than the 6620G. Same thing with my K53TA: my 6650m is much faster than my 6520G.

However, I'll be swapping in an A8-3530MX and it should reduce judder since the 6620G and 6650m will be much better matched in terms of rendering performance.

If only there was a Llano with a 6720G...

I do think your theory of switching up the AFR ratio WOULD resolve the juddering since it'd give the cards 'equal' amounts of work that is distributed based on their rendering capability.

 

People mention xfire ratio's. I thought asymmetrical crossfire was supposed to eliminate that need.

When I asked if you had crossfire running, it was because you can get much higher benchmark results with it. I get about 1550 with my system CPU and GPU overclocks.

Only way I think we'll get higher is if we can get a volt bump for the 6750m, but that doesn't seem likely at this point in time, at least not without something from AMD.

 

Apparently not, since Asymmetrical Crossfire isn't distributing frame rendering based on how much a card can render. Basically it seems to go 'lol ok here you go guys!' and gives them both an equal workload - the dGPU speeds along with the frames it renders while the iGPU lags behind, and so you get that weird judder effect where it seems kind of jerky because the frames displayed aren't truly in sync.

 

vsync seems to help a bit. But it's almost like they need a crossfire vsync.

 

Well in the defence of the iGPU, its pretty awesome. I was playing SC2 with crossfire off in battery saving mode on high. Pretty awesome for just an APU.

I might take the plunge and buy this monitor (As I got stuck with the 1366X768 monitor) : LG 15.6? FHD TFT LCD Panel for notebooks - LP156WF1 | eBay

I know it is glossy but the price is awesome

 

I have to agree. I've used the iGPU frequently on battery and it can handle itself pretty well at least at 720p.

 

did anyone had a problem opening Catalyst?

Message: "cannot load file or assembly "CCC.implemention" or one of its dependencies. The system cannot find the file specified.

If so, what was your solution?

 

Vsync + triple buffering seems to kill FPS in Crossfire for me. Maybe I need to experiment with different games, but it destroyed FPS in Deus Ex HR. I'll try using D3DOverrider and see if it can do Vsync + Triple buffer without nasty performance loss.

 

er uh, doesn't Trixx let you overvolt the 6750?
edit: well, on my setup i can overvolt it confirmed by both Trixx and gpuz.
seer

 

How much of an undervolt were you able to achieve?

 

Ok, I think I bricked my BIOS. It was working fine but when I did a restart the caps lock key kept flashing and the notebook wouldn't boot. I've tried the USB key recovery but it doesn't do it doesn't do any thing, the caps lock just flashes. I did edit the HP_Tools partition though... Would that be the problem?

 

It won't undervolt, but it WILL overvolt.

What exactly did your 'edit' consist of ? When you reboot, hold down the esc key and tell me what happens.

seer

 

I still cannot get Trixx to do squat on my machine. It still keeps telling me ULPS is enabled when it clearly is not.

Did you change the name of the HP_Tools partition?

If so, just remove the drive, connect it to another PC and rename it back to "HP_Tools", reconnect to laptop, and then do the win+b+power on.

 

Pressing esc on boot doesn't do anything, caps lock key still flashes. I'll try your idea HTWingnut.

 

Seer, are you really sure the overvolting is not just a wrong shown number, like with the bios musho edited?

Although TRIXX managed to overvolt my 6770m just fine (which was only one of two programs that could), I wasn't able to achieve any real overvolting for the 6750m. Overclocking wasn't affected eighter.

Like for mushos investigation, I fired up ATITool for 5 mins each, but couldn't find any difference with the "overvolting" TRIXX showed me:

780/[email protected],71°,74W, 685fps noULPS
780/800@ 1.10v,70°,74W, 679fps noULPS (1.10v shown in TRIXX/GPU-Z)

There doesn't seem to be any difference in temp or power drawn from the wall...

You might try to disable ULPS in TRIXX then. After that, do a reboot, edit the registry so it'll match the info from TRIXX, reboot again, and you should be fine.
You just have to match the info from TRIXX and the registry, and change the ULPS-state in TRIXX once, so it'll notice the change...

But as I allready stated, it won't really overvolt for me...

 

You need to remove the CMOS battery. Open up the back of the laptop, and you will see a small battery that looks like a watch battery. Pop it out (I used a flathead screwdriver) wait 1 min, pop it back in, and reboot!

Should fix the problem.

 

That's the thing, I check the registry and it *IS* disabled when the box is checked, so no registry changes needed.

Trixx hasn't worked for me in any capacity because of this. I'm not the only one either, several other users noted that their systems did the same thing.

 

That worked perfectly! Thanks. +rep

 

Hmm, when running TRIXX as a high performance profile, it would actually edit the registry entry for me. But just for the 6750m (the 0001 profile). I'd manually have to edit 0000 profile myself and set the Enable_ULPS_NA in 0001 to "0" myself too.
You might want to try that as well.

 

After some driver re-installs, I am having the same problem I had before. The 6750 is not running at all. When I attempt to run a game in high performance, the screen stays black, the the 6620g does all the work.... /sigh

 

Sorry, this might sound off topic but does anyone know how to tighten the hinges on this computer? Mine is stiff but has a sorta of a wiggle before it settles in place, just wondering if I can get some tips on how to tear it down and tighten the hinges.

Thanks!

 

the hp website has the service manual for the dv6z in its support section. It details how to disassemble and reassemble every part of the laptop. That should give you an idea of what can and cannot be done.


seer

 

Here's link to service manual:

Manuals for HP Pavilion dv6t-6100 CTO Quad Edition Entertainment Notebook PC - HP Customer Care (United States - English)

 

thanks guys! looks like a ton of screws, maybe I will wait a bit and repaste at the same time.

 

Gah! I just started up Deus Ex again. I only played it a little bit shortly after I got my laptop and it seemed to run fine. Now it's running like crap. Even with everything off, no AA, 1280x720 just dedicated or Crossfire, it's slovenly. It's like 25-35 fps even with vsync off. I swear I had it easily 50+ before.

Edit: weird. I had to uninstall and reinstall drivers and the game, and make sure I set deus ex to high performance before even running the game. In any case I had to select DirectX 11 for it to use the dedicated card. If I deselected dx11 it would revert to the iGPU. Whatever.

edit edit: I just completely uninstalled all AMD/ATI drivers and did a full ccleaner and glary utilities sweep of files and registry. Reinstalled 11.8 + 11.6 from HP (for all the other drivers), and the switchable graphics profiles were STILL there. I can't seem to get rid of them.

 

I couldn't seem to find anything. I download the F.18 bios but I don't know how to flash it. I dont have any of the HP stuff installed for the most part and the package does have insyderflash. Any ideas anyone?

 

Do you have your HP_TOOLS partition? If so just shut down your machine. Press and hold Win+b and simultaneously press the power button. Release all keys once the power light comes on. It will automatically install Bios F18.

 

I remade the partition, so hopefully it will work. I am guessing i need to copy the bios over to that partition.

 

Well the partition needs to be remade and reconstructed with all the data that's on there.

Download it from HP:

http://forum.notebookreview.com/7886958-post2564.html

HP BIOS Update UEFI - HP Customer Care (United States - English)