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    *HP dv6z AMD Llano (6XXX series) Owners Lounge*

    Discussion in 'HP' started by scy1192, Jun 22, 2011.

  1. orthinus

    orthinus Newbie

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    I have a question regarding overclocking the videocard. I have tested 770/950 at max 75c using msi afterburner. Would flashing my bios using Musho's bios make the OC permanent? I don't want to have to overclock it everytime I turn on my computer.

    Pretty much, get 11.6 drivers, test 770/950 works okay. change back to stock 600/800. flash bios to 770/950. (don't have to msi afterburner anymore?)/ update to 11.11 driver?
     
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    Can you not still underclock with afterburner software even with the overclock intact in the bios?
     
  3. orthinus

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    yeah i think so o.o, so flashing the bios makes the gpu overclock permanent? i tested my OC and i'm getting 850/970 no problem. i'm thinking about flashing the bios :D running the kombuster, i get < 70c after 20minutes

    do you guys think i should go higher?
     
  4. manaox2

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    Maybe after prime95 and run kombuster for at least one hour first. I don't trust my overclock now until I've run both at once for two hours. Its been a slow process. My first attempt didn't fail until about 1.5 hours of both, than failed fairly spectacularly with two cores having errors and a bluescreen. Twenty minutes definitely doesn't seem long enough to judge.
     
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    Vect, can you elaborate further or in more detail on how to overclock the GPU?
     
  6. Vect

    Vect Notebook Evangelist

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    The card, once bios overclocked, doesn't stay "overclocked" always. On idle I think it remains almost turned off but it's not the case due the fact it's running at 100 MHz.

    the steps for overclocking it are some pages behind in this same threath...
     
  7. seeratlas

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    Hey, you guys running skyrim. First, i'm not seeing any setting for vsync in the ini files, of which there appear to be 2. Second, near as I can tell, its only running on the 6620 and not the dedicated 6750-that option doesn't appear.
    Is there something you guys did on the install to switch it over?
    thanx in advance.
    seer
     
  8. Frank L90

    Frank L90 Notebook Enthusiast

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    Seer to disable Vsync, add the line, or change it if it's already present iPresentInterval= 0 under [Display] in the SkyrimPrefs.ini in the my games folder.

    (If it's not there, I do believe you can also do this to the .ini in your Steamapps Skyrim Folder but steam might override it.)

    As for the 6620g I think it just detects it as the primary adapter like all bethesda games I have (Fallout 3, New Vegas, Oblivion, & Morrowind). I can confirm Skyrim is running off the 6750m, via Afterburner and System Monitor after switching the Exe under switchable graphics to high performance.
     
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    Here is my current very stable overclock for those looking for examples:
    [​IMG]

    Its stays at between 78 to 80 degrees C under max stress.

    I set my BIOS to the 750 - 850 build of F.21. Catalyst manager no longer works, but the device seems to be reported as fine, everything tests fine. The AMD system manager states that the device is operating at 0mhz,0mhz. Afterburner recognizes it correctly. I am trying to disable crossfire to test the 6750M with Kombuster.
     
  10. seeratlas

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    Got it . thanky :)

    seer
     
  11. manaox2

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    Ended up doing a system restore. Moral of the story is never let windows updates install drivers, always go to the manufacturer.
     
  12. calc_yolatuh

    calc_yolatuh Notebook Evangelist

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    Er, especially for Bethesda games....set both the Launcher and the Game EXEs to "High Performance". Run the Launcher and re-detect your graphics...it should bump the settings much higher. After that, you can start up the game and experiment with tweaking the settings.
     
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    Vect Notebook Evangelist

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    Maybe an isolated case... because as far as I can tell everyone here had their catalyst in parallel with K10Stat, inclunding me.

    [​IMG]

    Uploaded with ImageShack.us
     
  14. manaox2

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    Ended up doing a system restore. Moral of the story is never let windows updates install drivers, always go to the manufacturer.

    I can't get 3Dmark 6 to run all the way through with crossfire enabled or disabled even with stock settings. It typically has a device lost error around the end of the firefly forest test. It is crazy when it happens as the screen goes black and the touchpad lights go off. I'm beginning to believe I really believe I got a bum deal on my refurb unit. I think I'll run memtest86+ to check the RAM.

    EDIT: Memtest is reporting my RAM to be 800MHz (DDR1600) / CAS 6-3-3-3 DDR2? Is that even possible?
     
  15. myNiteM4re

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    Well after some testing Its starting to look like its almost more beneficial to daily use and gaming to just over clock the CPU and not the dGPU. I feel like the cpu is already bottlenecking the dGPU so its not adding anything by overclocking the iGPU other than more heat and further expanding the gap between CPU and GPU preformance.

    Weird though I repasted my lappy today with some artic silver 5 and the temps are higher but it is no longer throttling, anyone know why this is?? thanks ;)
     
  16. calc_yolatuh

    calc_yolatuh Notebook Evangelist

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    Possibly more accurate temp report? Though I thought the sensor should be in CPU package...but it would make sense if the thermal sensor was on iGPU side of the package and new paste improved spread of heat across the face of the die...? Core throttling should be determined invisibly by the special thermal override inside each physical core. We can't directly access them, but those components determine why some people throttle at 85C and others don't see throttling until 95C. You probably had poor contact above a certain small corner of the die, which apparently was on the far side away from CPU thermal sensor. Bad luck, should be fixed now (thanks to repaste).

    After a little soul-searching (and playing L.A. Noire, Shogun 2 and a few other new games) I think I'll stick with CPU mods and forego the dGPU overclock. Running at 720p I am very happy with my quality settings, temps and battery life. It could be REALLY nice to have an extra 20-50% OC on the dGPU, but new drivers and CAP have improved iGPU contribution and I'd rather not have to mess with BIOS recovery or an overheated dGPU.
     
  17. myNiteM4re

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    Have you been running the hybrid cross fire? I have mine turned off because I dont really see a difference. I have only tried it in one or two games though.

    Also what do you think the lowest Pstate frequency is i could go to before it starts slowing down just web browsing and what not? Im thinking if i can go with .4 GHZ at .550 volts it would be great for battery life
     
  18. njlpowell

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    Hey guys. I just bought the dv6-6135dx from Newegg for $520. I have read every single page of this thread, some awesome stuff in here.

    Anyhow, I got to a 2600 OC using k10stat on 1.1000. stable for 4 hours now using Prime95, and am at 76C without a cooler. I noticed that my Coolsense isn't throttling the speeds at all when using k10stat, as I have it on coolest mode. so the fan spins up more often.

    Side note, anyone having trouble getting the .exe files to "stick" in the Vision Control Center? I try an assign to high performance, or powersaver, and when I click apply, it resets itself back to "not assigned". This is with the 11.11 drivers.
     
  19. myNiteM4re

    myNiteM4re Notebook Enthusiast

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    Make sure you let amd fuel and CCC start at power up and that sould solve your problem
     
  20. njlpowell

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    Was this directed at me?
     
  21. calc_yolatuh

    calc_yolatuh Notebook Evangelist

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    njlpowell: run Kombustor while running Prime95. Otherwise you may overheat and lock up in a game like Starcraft 2 or Shogun 2.

    myNiteM4re: with appropriate CAP and recent drivers, HCF should actually contribute a little. Some games have *ideal* scaling, such as Shogun 2. In such a case the dx11 mode has 50% (!!) higher framerate than dx9, and it ALSO looks much better. Pretty sweet deal.

    Regarding underclock, this is something I too should investigate. I have an original Eee 701, and the Celeron is just fine underclocked to 450MHz. I can have 20 tabs in Opera using Leeenux 4, the whole system has only 512MB of RAM.
     
  22. myNiteM4re

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    njlpowell: Yes it was, let me know if it worked, I know it was one of the amd programs that fixedd that problem for me.

    calc_yolatuh: Ill have to try crossfire then, just my last repaste left me with temps in the high 80s so im not really sure whats going on, I guess i didnt put enough on there
     
  23. HTWingNut

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    Throttling on these machines is a mystery. I use HWInfo64 to get real-time core speed monitoring. Prior to repasting my machine it would throttle at lower temps. I just think there's something internal that's more than just absolute temperatures. I think it has to do with rate of temperature increase as well.
     
  24. manaox2

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    3DMark6 is still hit and miss for me, but I've gotten it to work with all of my settings a few times. My overclock score is at 9675 3DMarks. At stock settings it is about 2500 less at 7125. Overclocking on this machine makes an enormous difference.

    I have the processor overclocked to 2.6 on turbo (which it does seem to hit when I first open most applications oddly) and the 750/850 bios applied and crossfire enabled. Temperatures briefly reach 83 degrees celcius and settle between 79 and 81 degrees typically with prime95 blend and kombuster running simultaneously.

    It is said to be common that temps are a bit higher until the CPU and thermal paste gets a bit more burn in which is why a lot of people choose not to go straight to an extreme overclock, but work their way up.
     
  25. njlpowell

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    Hmm, AMD Fuel and CCC both run at startup without fail, but I still can't get anything to stick. The only things that do stick are the built-in profiles, like firefox for instance. That one says power-saving. But for Rome TW for instance, I can't get the EXE to stick. Or any other program for that matter.
     
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    anyone has an ide why whem put max performance in skyrim tesv.exe no video is showing while the game runs and i get sound?
    any suggestions?
    btw thank you for this great thread!keep it up!!

    EDIT:remove all amd drivers.driver sweeper to clean and then install 11.11 mobility drivers.everything seems to work ok now.
     
  27. TotalLamer

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    So, the Worst Buy near me has the A8-3500M w/ Radeon 6750M on sale right now for a touch under $600... good deal? I know the GPU is a fast one, but is the 1.5GHz quad going to hold back gaming substantially?
     
  28. rmacgowa

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    Go for it, because the 3500 can just be set to 2.X Ghz with Kstat10, my 3530 is 24/7 at 2.6ghz (2.86 turbo) and everyone should be able to hit 2.4-2.6ghz no problem
     
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    Hnnngghhh... and Best Buy also has a $429 15.6" Pavillion w/ A8-3500M in their Black Friday deals...
     
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    It's probably without the discrete 6750 GPU. The A8's 6620G isn't bad, though. From what I can tell, it's performance is approximately half of the dedicated card's. So you can play with lower settings or lower frames.

    Skyrim on High was running on my iGPU before I changed its profile to high performance. It's wasn't smooth, but it was probably playable. It definitely would have been on medium or low. I was actually a little disappointed the dGPU didn't over more of a performance boost. From what I can tell the Hybrid CF didn't help much at all with that game. The iGPU was showing almost no utilization.

    My main question would be this: is it worth facing that horde of holiday shoppers? lol
     
  31. Frank L90

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    I went to a mall on black friday once a couple of years ago. I swear it was like being in a game of real life left 4 dead.

    Also I thought Skyrim was DX 9 only so Dual Graphics wouldn't work for it.
     
  32. myNiteM4re

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    I dont find dual graphics very effective anyways, I would much rather let the cpu concentrate on being a cpu and let the dGPU do the graphics work. 6750M is more than powerful enough to play most games at 1366x786 anyways
     
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    Integrated graphics are a good idea and really meant, at least initially, for desktop 3D graphics. Not really intended for gaming. But now it seems they're pushing the envelope with that too. In BF3 the Crossfire seems to help though, enough to maintain over 30fps at 1080p. Without it, I would frequently run at 25-26FPS.
     
  34. calc_yolatuh

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    I would mostly agree with you, but for most part the iGPU doesn't compete with CPU in games where Crossfire doesn't work. Where Crossfire does work, the iGPU doesn't generally use enough resources to impact CPU performance. In theory the iGPU should provide 60% of the capabilities of a stock 6750, with HCF boost from 10-50% in supported games. (Shogun 2 is a special case with heavy DX11/Crossfire optimization, hence the "ideal" boost.)

    Of course, if you overclock the dGPU by 25-50% it will provide a MOST consistent increase in games; it makes good sense to disable HCF in that case to reduce heat contribution from the APU/improve dGPU cooling.

    I was in CCC and noticed the screen EDID was not enabled. Turned it on and suddenly a lot of things look better. Recalibrated my colors and everything is great. Still not a super-premium panel but looks an helluva lot better than factory stock. Mostly I'm just glad they didn't cheap-out to the extent of a 12-15ms panel that starts ghosting at the drop of a hat.
     
  35. myNiteM4re

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    I tried turnin on EDID but it gave everything a weird greenish tint.. I find just turning down the gamma makes the best improvement on screen.
    I was thinking about pulling the trigger on an SSD because right now im feeling the biggest bottleneck on this thing is the 5400 rpm hdd. Anyone have any experience with ssds and is it worth it ?
     
  36. HTWingNut

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    I love SSD's. Have a 256GB WD Blue in my DV6z. Shop around, find something reasonable, but it's a great investment imho. Even better is get a DVD drive caddy to put your current HDD in, and SSD where the HDD currently sits. That way you can get a small 60GB for Windows and apps, and the HDD for storage and games.
     
  37. myNiteM4re

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    Well i was looking at 120gb SSDs that way I can put the games im currently playing on that and then just throw this stock hdd in an encolsure to switch games in and out as needed, hoping newegg has some good black friday deals...Do you know if Dv6z qe supports sata III?
     
  38. myNiteM4re

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    whoa those optical drive caddys look pretty cool actually, is there any one you recommend for this laptop?
     
  39. konfuzd

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    This is starting to make me regret this laptop. For some reason, in high performance mode for switchable graphics all dx9 games have craptastic textures. If I set the switchable mode to power savings, textures look fine and the game runs like crap. I know it has something to do with the mipmap setting, but there's no direct adjustment under high performance.
     
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    while in crossfire mode in WoW and in BF3 frames are kept high but the stuttering its so much that games are unplayable.by turning it off all comes well then.any ideas?
    dv6100sv hp
     
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    Be sure to download the CAP profiles.
     
  42. myNiteM4re

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    Overclock the dGPU and forget about crossfire
     
  43. Frank L90

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    Try setting Catalyst AI to high quality and try turning off surface format optimization under the high performance 3d apps settings. Also as a question what games are you playing?
     
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    Here is unigine heaven 2.5 linux benchmarks in case if anyone is interested! No crossfire sorry! :p

    A6-3410mx
    6520g and 6750m running catalyst 11.11 + stock clocks.
     

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    Good news! New Catalyst 11.11a performance driver just released.
    Click here to download.
     
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    I've tried Catalyst AI on high and medium as well as disabling surface format optimization. I haven't had much time for gaming lately, but i've seen it in all source based games as well as starcraft 2.
     
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    @HTWINGNUT

    What size caddy do these take and is there any place you'd recomend to get them? Thanks man
     
  48. calc_yolatuh

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    konfuzd: Either there is a problem with your dGPU or (more likely) Catalyst got messed up when you installed a newer version. It seems to happen pretty easily.
     
  49. myNiteM4re

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    Any have any ideas why when I turn it the laptop on theres no post just a blinking - (dash) in the top left hand corner with the caps lock flashing? scared it might be broke??
     
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    Have you flashed Musho's BIOS?
     
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