*HP dv6z AMD Llano (6XXX series) Owners Lounge*

Cheapest option I've found to upgrade your 6GB laptop to 8GB:

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It's a bit confusing, not helped by AMD's inconsistent naming. As I understood it, the 6750m and 6650m were essentially the same card, except that the former has GDDR5 memory while the latter has DDR3. This means that the 6750m has double the memory bandwidth than the 6650m, and the effect of this is that they perform differently.

From early reports, the 7670m can be paired with either GDDR5 or DDR3. In the Envy, it will be GDDR5, but in the DV6, it will be DDR3. So, the 7670m in the DV6 should perform a little faster and more efficiently than a 6650m, but the question remains how it compares to the 6750m.

If it is very close, then the price for the newer laptop make it a no-brainer.

 

HT,

I have to ask...are you really "TH" because if you are, how's the drive caddy from Amazon working for you? (Other criticisms for similar devices include that they only work at SATA-I speeds. I want to know the "real world" performance from someone who is actually using one in this particular model and knows how to measure the performance as well.) SATA-I would be ok for moving the OEM Sata-II hard drive, since mechanical drives are relatively slow anyway, but my plan was to put in a leftover 60GB OCZ Vertex II SATA-II SSD. Can't get any reliable information regarding the optical drive bay rating, the drive bay adapter rating, or measured real world results by someone who's "been there, done that."

Also, if I am barking up the right tree here, what was the secret in the optical faceplate removal reinstall?

 

i cant figure out why the screen hangs up when it switches between the 6750 and the intergrated gpu. I flashed back to f20 bios, uninstalled ati catalyst, uninstalled the gpus via device manager, did driver sweeper, installed latest hp video drivers.. and still getting this where running 3dmark11, sometimes it runs completely (was getting 22xxe scores with one of the mild overclocked bios), and sometimes it sort of crashes after the 3-4 test.. this is without any usb plugged in.

and when I have my usb wireless mouse (cheap chinese mouse but it works great on my desktop) ,3dmark11 crashes after 3rd test.. but i can still get back to windows.

The behavor imo is like between switching back to igpu. Any ideas? maybe Ill try minimal recovery again?

 

I just have repaired a problem similar to yours. I wanted to install the newer catalyst 12.1a and then in the installation, in the part where it flickers it hanged up.

then tried to reinstall 12.1 and it failed again in the very same part.

Then uninstalled... and installed again with the same results

at the end I fully uninstalled everything, then uninstalled the drivers that windows installs when there is no catalyst, with the "remove this driver" option...

It crashed again, but when I restarted repeated the same last procedure and finally the uninstall went ok.

Then I installed the 12.1a drivers and installed also ok

Then installed my usb 3.0 with the ahci drivers from amd, those contain the USB 3.0 drivers and other goodies, then the realtek HDMI audio driver and buala, everything works 100% again.

 

I will give that a try, so your basically saying to unstall everything, reboot and uninstall the drivers windows loads for the gpus in device manager, than try installing only the 12.1a drivers than the usb drivers from amd.

Which drivers exactly are 12.1a? I don't see that designation on any of the drivers ive seen, just the hp drivers on the website, and ati catalyst drivers.

edit: did google search for ati 12.1a and found them, i will give them a try. thanks

 

Google takes you right there.

 

ok i got the drivers installed correctly but still same problem.. when exiting a game like saints row the third for example from full screen to desktop, there is the screen hang.. this is the same thing that is happening to my 3dmark11. I am getting a DXGI_ERROR_NOT_FOUND message pop up from 3dmark11.

I know the performance of the 6750 is there, its just when switching out of it that it messes up.. If i run something windowed, be it deus ex hr, or kombustor windowed, its glorious. But when I go full screen and exit, hell breaks loose.

I wonder if an RMA would solve it or if its just configuration... good thing i didnt cut this case up yet

 

I just felt like feeling people opinions on this. Look at the FCH section here (It is at the very bottom): Comparison of AMD chipsets - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

It states the A70M chipset running Sabine, and Comal (trinity) but the A60M chipset running only Sabine.

Does this mean any of us (like me) with the A60M DV6 is gonna get screwed when trinity comes out, while all you guys with the A70Ms upgrade? I thought the only difference between the chipsets was the USB 3.0 ports.

 

think i figured it out, thanks guys..

did another full catalyst uninstall and individual gpu uninstall via device manager, rebooted, than installed the latest hp video drivers, rebooted, than installed ati 12.1a drivers, rebooted... soo far soo good

at 2.6 and 740/880 , 8gb ddr3. scored e2735 on 3dmark11 so far

 

I just found this chart, but it's from a couple months ago..sooo..outdated?



EDIT: Actually the chart itself is a little bit older than a couple months, and there is some conflicting information, because another blog site posted up,
"Notebook manufacturers will be pleased to hear that AMD's A60M and A70M Fusion Controller Hubs (FCH), currently providing a home to Llano APUs, will continue to be the base for new Trinity chips, meaning the refresh, dubbed Comal as a platform, will be a drop-in upgrade for existing notebook designs."

 

How much a CPU upgrade generally cost though?

@rmac , your dv6 not come with USB 3.0?

I just notice my replacement dv6 6135dx left side USB port not blue , but i think check in HWinfo or w.e before they are USB 3.0(and those 2 port never work until i instal USB 3.0 Driver)

 

@baiii

Depends on the cpu

DV6-6124CA does not come with USB 3.0

@rmacgowa

It would make more sense to be supported on A60M and A70M, as it would be much easier on manufacturers to recycle cheaper A60M chipsets. (just my opinion) I mean the A60M chipset is still relatively new albeit the A70M is newer, but I don't see a reason for them to throw A60Ms out the window just yet. Which brings me to my next point, that I can't seem to find any difference between the two chipsets other than A70M has native USB 3.0 support and A60M could use it, but needs a third party controller to do it. So maybe that will happen on newer notebooks?

 

There should be a little "ss" next to the USB fork logo. That means Super Speed, USB 3.0 blah blah

dv6-6124ca Refurbished
....No bluray and no 6750? It does have the 3530MX and a 750GB HDD but that's a rather sore trade.

dv6-6b07sa
The specs on Amazon are flat PANTS. What the hell is this? 6755G2 and a 90W adapter! How did they do that I wonder. 1TB drive and 8GB memory. The 3410 probably overclocks okay, the 6750 definitely does. No data on the optical drive.

dv6-6c12ea
AMD - Pentium D - 2.4GHz .....who the HELL needs to be let go from their position? Bump to 3430 but 8GB, 1TB, 90W adapter again. A 7670M GPU. Guaranteed slower than 6750/6770 class, no word on clock control yet. Less bandwidth so certain effects and pixel filters are probably off limit. May have an improved battery life but there's not enough data yet.

For that chap in the UK, I first assert that VAT is still atrocious to you blokes. I then further assert the cheaper laptop is a better deal FROM WHAT DETAILS WERE PRESENTED. However if the most important factor is playing games, either get the more expensive laptop or do some more shopping.

Incidentally, the Ralink that came with my 6135dx is not TOO shabby. It survived a solid week of torrents without incident, and a few matches in Team Fortress 2 and Shogun 2 have gone smoothly.

 

the Ralink does "work", but the 4965AGN in my 4 year old T61 work better.

If you check the dv6t new order graphic card thread here, they are assuming 7690XT~6770, 7690~6750.

 

@calc_yolatuh

DV6-6124CA comes with 6755G2

Check HP's product support page for more info.

 

baiii, thanks for that. So, definitely somewhat weaker. And how is you 4965AGN better? Closed-network tranfer rate? Gaming lag? What? Because the stability is there in spades and I haven't had a network fail to connect yet.

comfused: thanks for the follow-up. If it has the 6755G2 then the rest is a solid trade I suppose.

 

Radeon HD 7670M is just a rebrand of HD 6670M. They are identical.

 

what are you normal temps on the non-OC'd dv6z with browsing and streaming?

 

so... dv6z vs dv6t?... dv6z comes with A8-3510mx and the dv6t i7-2670qm and 6770 2gb.. both 768p display.... what's the best specs for battlefield 3 multiplayer...

I have the dv6z apu oclocked to 3 ghz and 800/920 for the gpu it runs stable at >83° with crossfire on... but i can't play multiplayer... probably because of the weak cpu...

 

It was a 3 antenna card, so I wont beat the ralink to death for comparing them.

 

There is no 6670M, only a 6650M. The 7670M looks identical to this, except for the change to the 28nm process.

 

Not exactly, the 6770m dv6t is getting 7690m XT on new orders.

 

For one, at 3GHz your system is probably throttling the CPU down because that's too high for most systems to handle. Most users are running 2.2-2.4GHz. Secondly, turn off Crossfire. It just doesn't work. Stick with the 6750m.

I can run 720p BF3 with med textures, low shadows, low everything else, 2xAA on at 30-50 fps. Don't expect to play with high details is all I can say.

 

have you tried new 12.1 driver and set the power saving (6620m) in the CCC to performance mode and then save a profile for bfbc2 using custom crossfire profile to bfbc2 preset... BF3 with crossfire works great on my system... does BF3 works better with i7 cpu? i got a chance to return my dv6z for a dv6t

 

So...anyone who has replaced their optical drive with a HDD/SSD drive bay...

1. What's the trick with the faceplate?
2. Are you getting true SATA II speeds?

 

HARDOCP - AMD Llano Fusion - AMD's Llano Fusion - A Series APUs

"Where the APU really starts to get interesting is the Dual Graphics feature. This harkens back to the "Hybrid" feature that we saw from AMD years ago that never truly came to fruition in the market. We are simply "CrossFiring" our on-die GPU with a discrete video card or on-board video solution. This Dual Graphics solution will only be realized between an AMD APU and a AMD GPU. NVIDIA GPUs cannot be currently leveraged with AMD or Intel on-die graphics solutions.


There is a limit as to what you can run in a Dual Graphics situation...Once the discrete GPU starts outstripping the on-die APU by about 1.75 frames to 1, CrossFireX basically stops working at that point."

 

Yep, but tons of stuttering still.

But I thought you said you can't play BF3 on your system, but you say it runs great? What's the issue?

 

that's why i'm getting some horrible shuttering when I try to overclock dgpu and hybrid xfire is on

 

Yes, CrossfireX (dual radeon graphics, whatever they call it now) is not optimized for BF3. It was during beta, but now it sucks for some reason. I was actually able to play at 1080p with Crossfire on all low at 35-40 fps, but now I have to drop resolution down to 720p because just the 6750m itself can't manage that resolution as well.

 

I would lik to know this as well. I removed the optical drive and looked at the faceplate attachment. There are 3 clips holding it on, but I cannot get the plate off. 2 clips are on the "close side" and 1 clip is on the "far side" (the terms close side and far side are based upon having the drive in the laptop, if that makes any sense ,lol)

 

I can't play big maps like caspian boarder and bf3k maps.... it does shutter even with crossfire off... seems like cpu bottleneck my 6750 oclocked... i tried 2400 mhz ... but I'm still having the same issues

 

If the trinity processors can be put in our "old" dv6 laptops I'm so gonna put the fastest one on mine

 

...provided, of course, that a BIOS update is made to accomodate the Trinity line, then, me too.

 

There are 4 clip, iirc you cant pull at the clip.Dont foucs on clips , focus on pulling the whole thing @ once. There is a video on youtube with a guy with dv6t.

eh, I dont have mine right now and I dont know how to describe doing it.


I broke 1 of the 4 when I take mine out .(krazyclue atm LOL)

 

No, something else must be wrong because everyone here can play at 720p just fine, same CPU and GPU. Even the Asus K53TA with the A6-3400m and 6650m GPU (same as 6750m but with DDR3 video ram instead of GDDR5 with the 6750m).

Also, be sure to reboot after enabling or disabling the crossfire. Even though it doesn't ask, I've had to reboot to get it to take effect.

 

so using an intel i7 and a 6770m oclocked or an A8 and a 6750m oclocked makes no difference on overall performance in BF3?

about crossfire issues... as i said i had a huge boost by using bfbc2 custom crossfire profile instead of bf3 profile.... also, check if CCC is set to maximum performance, for unknown reason CCC set the power saving settings to high quality when you install new drivers...

 

Wait, I'm confused. You said you can't play BF3 but then you say you can play it well with Crossfire? Also where are you getting the BFBC2 custom profile? It should be part of 12.1 drivers. The Crossfire profiles are only for games/adjustements that weren't in the latest drivers.

I think the i7 quad and 6770m would handle the game better, yes, but not by a significant amount.

edit: nevermind, I see what you're saying... I think. Although choosing BFBC2 ends up resulting in WORSE performance.

 

i can play smooth only small and medium maps with little or no vehicles... if i play maps like caspian boarder or bf3k maps then my FPS goes down and it start shuttering bad... as I said it seems some kind of cpu issue... that's why i'm thinking about i7 can handle big maps better than A8...

you have to overwrite the standard bf3 profile with the new settings... under AMD crossfire mode for 3d application tab, hit use AMD pre-defined profile... scroll down and select bfbc2.exe tweak, then save the new profile, go to application profile in the gaming tab and you'll find the new custom profile... make sure you have all the settings under: 3d application settings (energy saving) set to high performance...

 

Sound like the CPU throttle on you when the CPU+GPU load go high.
Try either of following:
1. Use k10 and keep all your pstat the same
2. Turn off CnQ via advanced bios (if you flashed that one)

I currently edited my registry to lessen the throttle but It still throttle on me .( But I like the way window clock control works)

 

Hey guys. I've got everything put back on my laptop, new drive, and all. Used the win7 sp1 download from this forum, and the sticker on the bottom of my 6135. Now I've got k10stat on, and running at startup via task scheduler, but it isn't controlling the speed. It seems like it's loading with the "enable clock control" unchecked. If I manually start k10stat, then check that, it works fine (all according to cpu-z). Before I had problems, it worked perfectly on startup. The task does show as running. Any thoughts?

 

Yep, did all that, still stutters. I just turn crossfire off. It just doesn't work well the way it was intended. Every driver release I try again and still fubar.

 

Did you follow this? Aspire Gemstone: K10STAT AMD Griffin Processor UnderVolting Guide

My past experience is similar, it doesnt always start up clock control normally.
May aswell try fusiontweaker and see if that works, or use window power plan.

 

Followed that guide the first (and this) time. Worked fine then, just not now. Is there a similar guide to fusion tweaker? Don't know anything about that one.

 

Hmm, I had that issue, but it was because I omitted the colon with "ClkCtrl:1". Also double check that you have in Task Scheduler under "Actions" the "Start In" directory is set to your K10Stat directory. That fixed it for me.

 

I enjoy fusion tweaker much more than kstat10. Thanks to that and mushos bios, my CPU and GPU are always overclocked, no programs to start, no fuss.

 

For fusion tweaker, do yours able to cycle/step p0-p7? Mine always stuck in p3 or p4 for lowest p state.

 

I prefer K10stat. Multiple profiles, and always overclocked too. But if you care to mess with the "instant up" feature of Fusion Tweaker then you might gain a little better performance, but I could never get Fusion Tweaker to work properly.

 

With either program, im messing with k10stat now but havent made a startup schedule yet.. So far i have 2 settings that I use, an underclock at stock speeds, and a overclock to 2.6. Right now i let family use the laptop in their own user account, can I have their account load up the underclock?