*HP dv6z AMD Llano (6XXX series) Owners Lounge*

K10stat has to be running. There is a way to set it at loadup and run persistently. Follow this guide: Aspire Gemstone: K10STAT AMD Griffin Processor UnderVolting Guide

Make sure to load it under login of your username instead of a service, otherwise it won't load up in the system tray and won't be able to manually make adjustments if desired.

 

Here is for you guys, how to get PCI-Express 1x from Mini-PCI-Express:

PEMINI2X1-S-F (base) PCI Express Mini to PCI E X1 adapter with flexible cable and extra PE-X1 straddle Orbit Micro

It's too bad that I just cannot buy those things from my location but still one can even connect a graphics card in there lol.

And to my surprise, there are really PCI Express 1x graphics cards, I wonder If they are match against our 6750m...

This only shows my desire... to slam a Radeon HD 7950 into a (wonder if available) laptop with a 16x PCI-Express slot.

 

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Wouldn't this require a removal of the wireless card? We only have 1 mini pci slot. Also... it is a pci-e X1 slot... which doesnt exactly have a lot of selection.... (good luck trying to fit a 7950 in there lol)

These are really very cool ideas... but id rather build a desktop then have a laptop with a video card hanging out of it and no wifi. lol

 

Yeah, I was talking about of an "imaginary world".

About the wireless for me is not too important, besides there are USB to Mini PCI-E adaptors which can be used by our wireless card. Well, with PCI-E 1x at least a decent sound card can be put in there...

 

You can use a USB wireless card instead perhaps.

 

we have a pciex 1x card reader but I guess it's soldered to the mobo...

 

hmmmmm.... 11" Macbook air with trinity APU and ssd HDD... would be a dream (I have a late 2010 macbook air running osx lion, really good UM laptop)

 

I don't think the price would be a dream! I completely agree with Vect and wish people who enjoy OSX would go for a hackintosh. I guess you could always justify paying a 50-100% price increase for an aluminium body........ oh wait we already got that

Anyhow, my own biased bantering aside, I do not think the BIOS update would be that big of an issue for us DV6z owners if trinity CAN be supported. Im sure one of those geniuses in the BIOS hacking department could do a little handy work Or we could just bug the crap out of HP

 

I support completely... but may as well ask them also that OpenGL runs on the dedicated part too

 

I don't understand how people can go back and forth between OSX and Windows. I mean I have a lifetime of programs in Windows that I'd have to reacquire for Mac if I used it.

 

I was testing DiRT 3 a few moments ago, funny game indeed. The thing is, my performance was very bad with 12.1a drivers, I had to roll back to 12.1 and the game ran much more smooth... also, this game is other of the games that stress test very nicely the processor.

BTW, OSX is just curiosity for me, I really never have liked macs at all (Well, when they ran on the power pc arquitecture, they were kind of interesting, but now, trying to sell the same hardware that other laptops along with a great price increase... I'm not fan of that)

 

any other programs besides afterburner to use to oc the 6750m? or any way around the black screen error when launching games with an oc?

 

They are selling style and service on top of the hardware.

 

Cool, thank you for letting me know. Sorry for being so noobish at this but I have a couple more questions. What is the best to to go about installing the new 12.1 amd catalyst drivers? I am running on the hp stock drivers plus the update through windows right now. As far as I understand I just do a custom install and don't install the CCC? I just want to be sure before I proceed as not to mess anything up.

 

If you did a minimal restore, straight hp stock to 12.1 should be fine. Do not let windows update your graphic driver.

Why you want to do install w/o CCC?

 

I was just under the impression that it would mess up the switchable graphics function.

 

You either need HP drivers or 12.1a (12.1 might work too, but I'm using 12.1a) to get switchable graphics. They both include CCC.

 

Alrighty, again sorry for playing 20 questions here, but do I need to uninstall my old drivers prior to installing 12.1a? If so what is the best method to go about doing this? Current drivers are 8.90.7-110915a-125898C-HP. Which I believe are 11.9.

 

They released 12.1a? Oh my, didnt even notice ~~

 

uninstall catalyst, than go to device manager, and uninstall each display adapter, make sure you check uninstall software as well. Than if you like, can download driver sweeper, driver cleaner pro, and do a clean with ATI options to get every little bit out. Than you can install the Hp drivers or straight to 12.1a.

On my system, I installed the HP drivers, than the 12.1a over it. Though some guys here reported they just did a install of 12.1a and was fine.

Steam has Deadspace 1+2 for $9.99... I been playing that. I bought Fear3 a few days ago on sale as well, but I like deadspace.. It is a pretty cool game. Gameplay is pretty basic but the environment is awesome, think of Doom3+ the Aliens movies for me , where aliens take over a space ship and your all alone through most of it. http://store.steampowered.com/app/17470

 

Alrighty thanks for the info I'll get on this. I have both deadspace 1+2 for console and it is the only game that has legitimately freaked me out, though I have yet to play Amnesia. I'm still looking forward to my new game + playthrough of deadspace 2 the next time I manage to dust it off...

 

Well did everything as described and it seems to be working pretty well. Went straight to 12.1a and my display seems to look a little different, but if i want it exactly how it was I can always install the hp drivers and 12.1a over em. Thanks for all the help guys. Might try to overclock my 6750m a bit later once I get this thing to run cooler.

 

OSX now does some incredible virtualization of Windows and lets you keep most, if not all, of your programs. My buddy showed me all of this, and it's amazing, as well as amazingly fast.

 

Just got my new DV6z with dual graphics in and I am turning out to be the noob to end all noobs.

Can't even figure out how to update my graphics card drivers.
Does anyone have a link to a guide on getting the newest drivers for my laptop downloaded and installed?

Currently AMD Vision Engine Control Center shows
Driver 8.832
Release Date 4 01 2011

 

Probably just as good as I can do in virtual box which I would NOT rely on for games or intense graphical programs.

 

The Overclocker's first duty on these machines is ocing your CPU. The GPU and drivers for it aren't a huge issue, but it is nice to have the latest one. The latest 12.1 or 12.1a drivers should just install right over the HP stock drivers no problem and just work.

Get K10stat and look for some of the stable overclocking profiles folks have posted nearer to the beginning of the thread. With a conservative setup you should be able to run 2.2 or 2.3GHz with no heat or crashing problems.

 

You just guessed my words

 

Hi need some help.
I may go to canada for a few weeks.
So far , I could find these models that seem to be reasonably priced.Sadly no trinity yet.

700$ - they just increased it by 50
HP Pavilion 15.6" Laptop featuring AMD Quad-Core A6-3400M - Black : 15" Laptops - Best Buy Canada

630$ same model
Buy the HP Pavilion dv6-6128ca 15.6 Notebook PC at TigerDirect.ca

refurbished better proc
Newegg.ca - Recertified: HP Pavilion dv6-6124ca Refurbished Notebook AMD A-Series A8-3530MX(1.9GHz) 15.6" 6GB Memory DDR3 750GB HDD 5400rpm DVD Super Multi

Questions
1. Do you see any other good deals? I will only be there for couple of weeks so i prefer
a store instead of online but so far got only 1 model.Rest are 800$+
I guess i can order with fastest shipping if its a lot cheaper.
How good or bad is newegg / tigerdirect canada shipping? How long do they take?
I will be at Brampton Ontario. Will they charge custom duty?

2. How much worse would crossfire be with A6?
@rmacgowa I see you have 6124 with A8. Was crossfire usable for atleast
some games with A6 and is A8 noticeably better? They are both labeled 6755G2.

3. Does Best Buy price match with tiger direct?

TIA

Edit : Also plan to get an SSD if its close to 1$/GB without MIR. There is a Sandisk Ultra Sata 2 G25 for around that that seems to have good reviews in newegg. Any opinion? I am a SSD noob so any opinon will be welcome
Dont wont to spend too much and dont need the fastest one.Just reliable and good performance for money.
Need atleast 80-90 gigs though to have both windows and linux with a few games and most programs.
Sandisk can be RMA'ed from India too i think so thats a plus.

 

In terms of deals in Canada, you really aren't going to get much better than those. If there is a possibility of going to the USA you are likely to find better deals. Also the US models now sell with the 7690m as an option, but no one is too sure how well it compares the the 6750m. (It should be pretty close)

Crossfire can be tricky. It helps some games and hinders others. Personally I turn it off as performance off of an overclocked 6750m is more than enough. Just make sure you are running the latest drivers.

In terms of A6 vs A8. Go with the A8 if you can. It has the 6620g as the integrated graphics processor as opposed to the 6520g in the A6, so the A8s will have better performance if crossfire is applicable and will perform better on tasks involving the integrated gpu.

In terms of price matching, you would need to be able to show that tiger direct has :
1) The exact same model of laptop at a lower price
2) Stock for that model
Then if those are met, they should try to beat the price by a bit (around 6% if i remember correctly)

In terms of SSD, a lot of us here have had success with many different brands. Just try to find one that fits within your budget and you will be happy.

 

I would ask you what you are planning on playing, and whether you can wait about sixty days. Trust me, Trinity lappies are going to seriously trash the best of the A-8 Llano's..AND, it is *possible* that they are, at least initially, going to cost less...amd has a lot of design wins, pretty much every major brand is going to have not just one, but several units based on the new chips and the laptops are *at the moment* going to be the first out of the blocks.

I really wish I could say more, but guys, really, I'm selling some of my other laptops, going to keep my dv6z as a backup, but I have to tell you, if there is something you want to do, ANYTHING you want to do, that you won't be able to do on a new trin laptop?...well what you are really going to want is a seriously high end desktop, or a mini..

Trinity really is that good. Even the low power (17watt) "Ultrathins" are nothing short of shockingly good.

Oh, one last comment, if you do decide to spring for a new trin lappie, get the best config you can afford, cause this thing is going to be with you for a very very long time. Keep your eyes on the market, the mfg's cannot WAIT to get these things out, but amd is determined to hit the market all together, with tons of inventory ready to fly out the door. They are betting the farm on this thing, and, both I and the market think its a good bet.
seer

 

So when are Trinity laptops supposed to be available? I love the options available to me in the DV6z: quality 1080p matte screen, blu-ray player, 9-cell battery. Only thing I would want more is a backlit keyboard and no wi-fi whitelist and/or a decent wi-fi card option. Come on HP, give us a decent Intel Wi-Fi!

 

I wish i could wait for trinity but i may not get to go to us/canada after this trip and there are no llano laptops in india. I have been waiting for them to launch here but they just couldnt make enough of them it seems.

Even when they launch trinity here it would likely be priced much higher than US.
And at most i think it would equal 6750M. AMD seems to be pricing their gpus higher these days. Do you think they will have a 7750M equivalent at similar prices?

Agree that desktop is best for gaming .I will mostly be playing older stuff to catch up.
Haven't played much for a long time.Only some crappy games on my crappy 3100 and an even crappier toshiba .

How long does it take on an average for newegg/tigerdirect to ship to canada?
I dont want it to be more than 2 weeks. Do they charge custom fees?
If bestbuy price matches i will buy it. Otherwise lets c.

 

I've seen mentions that the wifi card that's going to be delivered in my DV6z today isn't that great. What's wrong with it that some feel it necessary to replace?

 

Poor signal strength and data speed. Sometimes intermittent speed drops.

 

I've had no issues with the Ralink myself. But that's with torrents and games, I have not done any large transfers over local wireless to really stress its speed. Signal strength is better than ASUS 1005HA's wireless card, which was better than my 14.1" Acer Travelmate TM2424WXCI-XPH...no problems when gaming.

Machu_Picchu: I think the machine from Best Buy is a decent bet. Unless you can find an A8 system for similar money.

The person wondering about battey life: I mostly have Coolsense set to run "Performance" when plugged in and "Quiet" on battery. I play a lot of older video games on battery (iGPU only) when stuck somewhere. I get roughly 5+ hours online, and about the same playing most games up through Oblivion or so. (medium preset on launcher, everything turned to max in-game) For just typing, 7hrs. I kept the Beats software because it lets me adjust the quad speaker balance, and disables the amplifier when there's no audio signal. I think that saves about a half-watt.

First laptop was a Dell NX20. Quite sexy, and I found some parts to upgrade it a little. Documentation Why did they ever stop including reserve batteries? You could swap cells like pistol magazines, never shut it off until you ran out of batteries to use.

 

Newegg.com - CORSAIR 16GB (2 x 8G) 204-Pin DDR3 SO-DIMM DDR3 1333 Laptop Memory Model CMSO16GX3M2A1333C9

All glory to Smaug, this memory looks to be an unholy temptation! Further sweetening the deal, one 'Mishi' explains: "My HP dv6-6135dx laptop recognized the new memory RAM. Works flawlessly so far with no problem, runing smooth."

Knocked down to $140USD, free 2-day shipping. So very tempted. That would give me enough power to leave a 3GB WinXP VM idling, two *nix VMs, and probably not even notice they were there. A plus too for editing videos, and a couple games that chew up all the available RAM. I'll bet I could have a thousand tabs open across four copies of Opera 64-bit.

 

was thinking of switching out my 2GB for a 8GB but the price tag is too high . a 1080p seems a better deal for me.

 

I haven't had any issues with mine, not saying they dont exist.
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to go with my new simultaneous 2.4/5ghz router. Hopefully I will be able to finally get solid signal in my garage!

DO have the 640gb 7200rpm that i never used and the original wifi chip if anyone wants to buy!

 

first time trying bf3 multiplayer, I guess it is a little choppy huh? golf of omen map. I tried single player a while ago and it was smooth.

 

keep us updated on that 6300, i wasn't happy with the 6230, slower bios boot , unknown usb device message kept popping up, and could not get the intel bluetooth drivers installed = no bluetooth.

 

Turn off CrossFire (Dual Video Cards). Overclock GPU/CPU. Set everything in BF3 to low. Make a "user.cfg" file in your main BF3 directory with notepad and put this statement in there:

WorldRender.DxDeferredCsPathEnable 0

Save and run BF3. I'm getting 30-40 fps 1080p.

CPU @ 2.4GHz, GPU @ 740/880

You can also try this by going into the game, opening the console (press ~), and typing it in. Just in the user.cfg file you don't have to type it every time you start up the game.

 

Just got my 2nd HDD caddy. Threw in my 750GB that came with the laptop, works flawlessly.

As a side note, I got the faceplate off the DVD drive, but the one on the edge is very stiff and I snapped it taking it off. Also there is a 4th clip under the metal plate .. so you kinda need to take the DVD drive apart.(and i when i was finished i had a few parts left over lol)

 

thanks worked great, I set it to medium. now i just cant stand the jaggy picture, gonna take some time to get used to it. I feel like it will slow my play down recognizing enemies.

 

Yup, It is a pain I got crazy clue on my snapped clip slot,or the faceplate slip off when ever i grab the cd -rom side.

 

Well, for anyone hasn't been following the Win8 story, got a chance to play with it and, well, I gotta tell you...there's going to be a chit load of screaming unless they make some serious changes. They've taken windows and made it all tablety...(is that a word? LOL) sooo, no start menu, anything you try to do with a mouse is a MAJOR pita, AND, this 'metro' interface imho, is major suckage. You can't even jump between running tasks, you have to flip either forward or back to get from window to window...no skipping and no 'going around'...ie. if you have seven windows, you have to flip from 1 to 7 and then flip back the way you came all the way back to one...what a croc.

I anticipate some major ms bashing in the it press over this thing.

seer

 

From what I understand, Windows 8 Metro is only the tablet interface. Otherwise for your standard notebooks and desktops it will have the familiar interface similar to Windows 7. I will have to download and try it out.

To be honest for most users, it most likely won't merit an upgrade. Only thing of importance is the supposed improved support for AMD Bulldozer/Trinity CPU's.

 

Windows 7 has been patched with the Windows 8 optimizations (new patch, not the one that was pulled), but it looks like only a few percentage points of improvement.

 

Well, the 16GB only makes a little sense if I do something about that HDD. I've had it set to lid close = hibernate, and that becomes retarded with 16GB. Using a SSD I could set it to lid close = shutdown. But maybe I should just grab a 2x4 kit for $40 and see it I can make 20 back on the RAM that came with it. Don't want to invest much until we see if Trinity takes off, but I think Llano may actually have been gimped a bit to improve the Trinity bang/watt numbers.

If you look at battery numbers running undervolted, Llano's rather impressive compared to the stock figures. We'll find out for certain once people get their hands on Trinity to experiment with voltages and headroom.

I'm not questioning the iGPU claims tho, even if it's just a bandwidth hike for MSAA or something. Trinity should have better graphics, possibly hardware encoder too, but I'll probably sit on my Llano and wait for the next generation.

One thing would be in', and I do not care who does it: a dedicated sideband channel to encode 60fps capture from the video output. No more FRAPS lag, no capture devices, just video streamed direct to disk.

 

I just made a thread to add a definitive guide to the DV6z. Feel free to contribute, although please don't post there until they fix the thread title so they don't on have to fix all the subsequent titles in the thread.

Thread is here: http://forum.notebookreview.com/hp-...-dv6z-llano-overclock-optimization-guide.html

Please put requests for additional information and feel free to add or correct anything I've posted. I don't bite (usually) and would rather have correct information and be embarrassed than put a bunch of crap out there that will confuse people. Thanks.

 

I had to run through about four different youtube videos, but I figured the trick out and didn't break anything.

You only have to dislodge the two end clips, and the thing snaps right off.

One clip is obvious, on the blunt (perfectly rectangular) side. You just push a fairly large phillips in the hole and it pops the clip.

The other side was far trickier, mostly because it's not obvious there's a clip; it looks like one solid piece, but it's not. It's on the flat flange. I used a jeweler's screwdriver to press down on the clip once I found it, and it pushed out easily.

From there, just beneath the bezel, there are three (I think) clips and they just opo when you pull 'em...no breakage.

The last clip is on the flange side, and it's an obvious hook-like clip, but you don't really have to worry about it. It unhooked when I popped the bezel off.

Installation is a snap (pun fully intended.) You just line up the clips on the holes and push.