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    HP Zv6000

    Discussion in 'HP' started by Plus_Sized_Model, Feb 28, 2005.

  1. MashiMaro

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    I believe every zv6k has this problem...Its just annoying but it can easily be fixed by using the fn key. Don't waste your time sending it back in.
     
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    <blockquote id='quote'> quote:<hr height='1' noshade id='quote'>Originally posted by hr_phenom

     
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  3. hr_phenom

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    I could be wrong...but it may have something to do with Windows Power management rather than the notebook.

    I haven't noticed this yet though!
     
  4. hr_phenom

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    Furthermore, does anyone else notice that My Computer properties shows the processor running at 986 MHZ. Mines supposed to be a 2.2 GHZ. Any idea on how to get the processor running at its max?

    Thanks
     
  5. mtrivs

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    hr_phenom:
    Thats because your CPU is throttleing. Because it is set to a laptop in the power management, your cpu will use the minimum amount of CPU to do the task. It does this to minimize heat and power usage. If you want to change it, you will have to set the power management to "Always On", in order to get 2.2Ghz all the time.

    ~HP Pavilion ZV6000 series~
    -AMD Athlon 64 3200+ 2.0GHz
    -512MB RAM
    -128MB ATI Mobility radeon X200m
    -80GB 5400RPM HDD
    -15.4" Widescreen w/ Brightview
    -DVD±RW W/DL support
    -XP Pro
    -2X 12-Cell Batteries
     
  6. Long Rifle

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    That dim screen can be a little annoying, but like you said simply use the "fn" keys to adjust it. Or you can try changing the profile under Adjust Power Properties to "Desktop". Just keep in mind, the processor will ALWAYS be at its maximum of 2Ghz instead of running at 1Ghz when processor demand is low. Use mobilemeter to monitor processor speed, processor and hard-drive temperature, and it will also tell you the wear level of your battery. Hope this answers the last couple of posts.

    HP Pavilion zv6000
    AMD Athlon 64 3200+ (2.0GHz)
    15.4" Brightview (1280x800)
    512MB DDR SDRAM (2x256)
    MS Windows XP Pro w/ SP2
    80GB 5400 RPM
    DVD+/-RW CD-RW Combo Drive
    128MB ATI Radeon Xpress 200M
    802.11 b/g, Bluetooth
    8 cell battery
     
  7. Louis

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    The screen dimming is a known sensor issue and HP has no intention of fixing the problem. It does not seem to be related to Power Management but more to the sequence you power down and unplug your laptop from the power supply.

    There is some info about it on zv6000forums.com, I don't recall which thread though. It is annoying but easily fixable by using the function key sequence.
     
  8. hpnewtome

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    AMD Athlon(TM) 64 3200+ (2.0GHz/512KB L2 Cache)
    The AMD Athlon(TM) 64 Processor 3200+ with Cool'n'Quiet(TM) Technology and 512KB L2 Cache 2.0GHz creates a quiet notebook for a quiet home. Cool'n'Quiet(TM) Technology is an innovative solution that can effectively lower power consumption and enable a quieter-running system while delivering performance on demand for the ultimate computing experience. This processor supports HyperTransport (TM) up to 1000MHz and 3DNow! Professional technologies to assure outstanding performance for mobile computing. Enhanced Virus Protection for Microsoft(R) Windows(R) XP Service Pack 2 will help reduce the risk from certain classes of viruses in e-mails or from Internet browsing. AMD Athlon is a trademark of Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.

    When you are customizing a system HP uses the exact wording off of AMD web site to influence your buy. This leads the consumer to believe that we are getting all of the product they are selling.

    Analogy-IF you test drive a car or go to the lot to buy one it is safe to assume when you order or buy your car it would have all of the seats. Why buy a product only get a portion.

    I think HP should have warned the consumer that the product was lacking part of its design.

    IS it true that the new windows xp 64 will not run on the zv6000?

    I think a lawyer would certainly entertain the idea of sueing HP. It is totally misleading to sell a product within a product but not tell the buyer there is something missing.

    I hope you all are still reading this.

    What is the reault of limiting this processor in this way? How bad is it really? I have the 64 3200 (2.0G) and was really excited to have the new technology in my hands. But if it is only part there my balloon has been popped!!


     
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    <blockquote id='quote'> quote:<hr height='1' noshade id='quote'>Originally posted by hpnewtome

     
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    <blockquote id='quote'> quote:<hr height='1' noshade id='quote'>Originally posted by hpnewtome

    What is the reault of limiting this processor in this way? How bad is it really? I have the 64 3200 (2.0G) and was really excited to have the new technology in my hands. But if it is only part there my balloon has been popped!!
    <hr height='1' noshade id='quote'></font id='quote'></blockquote id='quote'>

    I just got mine a few weeks ago and am happy with it. I do a lot of computer stuff, from Games, to Photo Editing to DVD Authoring. And so far this computer has not had a problem. I did order a 1gig stick of Memory (I first got Kingmax, but the Laptop did not want to boot up. Found out here that, that brand didn't work well, so re-ordered Kingston. Will let you know how that works when I get it). But right now, testing with the Factory Stuff, the laptop is worthy. Gaming, its not top notch, but can play some games well. It does get a very low number on 3D FutureMark 05 (Mine was about 650) but that is a high end tester. I have played Stronghold 2, World of Warcraft, and Myst 4 and all 3 work well. WoW and Stronghold gets a little laggy with a lot of objects on the screen, but not to bad (and should get better when I get the 1gig ram added). It doesn't Like Doom 3 or Half Life 2, but those are graphic hungry games and you need a $2000+ laptop to play those well. My Built Desktop (AMD 3500+ 64, 2gig ram, 7200 SATA Drive, ATI Radeon X800xt) will do for those [:p]

    Photo editing this Laptop has no problems. I use Adobe Creative Suite CS2 with outstanding results. Very nice display I might add.

    DVD Editing isn't as fast as my Desktop, but when I'm on the go, it does the job. Editing video is fine, though it does take some time rendering them, and burning them isn't as fast as dvd burners are now, but still, not bad.

    Overall I am pleased with this.. sure you can spend 300+ or more to get something better, but for me, I used that 300 to get a bigger battery, case, web cam and more. [;)]
     
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  11. guarnefinca

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    <blockquote id='quote'> quote:<hr height='1' noshade id='quote'>Originally posted by Shirow

     
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    <blockquote id='quote'> quote:<hr height='1' noshade id='quote'>
    This was a site sent to me for upgrading the HD.

    <http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16822146036>

    What HD were you thinking of upgrading to?
    <hr height='1' noshade id='quote'></font id='quote'></blockquote id='quote'>

    Not Sure yet as the 80gig one is fine for now.

    I did get my 1gig Kingston Ram today, poped it in the bottom slot and how am running with 1.2 gigs of ram.. sooo much better. [:D]
     
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    <blockquote id='quote'> quote:<hr height='1' noshade id='quote'>Originally posted by hpnewtome

     
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    <blockquote id='quote'> quote:<hr height='1' noshade id='quote'>Originally posted by Techdabbler

     
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    <blockquote id='quote'> quote:<hr height='1' noshade id='quote'>Originally posted by Techdabbler

     
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  16. Louis

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    Check the hp site for drivers under the Workstation support section.

    I realise that it is a bit deceptive on the part of HP, but they only sold the laptop with XP 32 bit. When MS tells the consumer to go to the PC manufacture for drivers, what they are not saying is that the manufacture is supporting drivers only on the systems they sell with XP Pro 64 and right now that is, in the case of HP limited to their workstation line only. HP is not in the business of writing drivers, the component manufacture normally does this. As far as I know the consumer can only get XP 64 with a PC purchase, for now anyway. When MS throws XP Pro 64 onto shelves for retail, you will then see a ton of 64 bit drivers.

    The 64 bit Windows world is very new and very young. Does HP have the expertise to write drivers for components that they get from another company? Sure, but they are not going to, for a number of reasons I am sure. To be fair, I suspect that other sellers of computers with 64 bit os's are not penning drivers either. I would imagine that HP will fully support 64 bit drivers when a person can buy XP pro 64 at their local vendor.

    As far as I am concerned, if someone trades in their 32bit for a 64bit version of XP with MS, then MS should be responsible for driver support. After all, it is their OS and if they want it to gain market share they darn well ought to provide drivers, not HP.
     
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    <blockquote id='quote'> quote:<hr height='1' noshade id='quote'>
    As far as I know the consumer can only get XP 64 with a PC purchase, for now anyway.
    As far as I am concerned, if someone trades in their 32bit for a 64bit version of XP with MS, then MS should be responsible for driver support. After all, it is their OS and if they want it to gain market share they darn well ought to provide drivers, not HP.
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    Actually you can get a copy of it from microsoft you just have to trade in your professional lic. for it. It even comes from them on a cd. That is what i was going to do and when i spoke to the hpshopping.com represenative to purchase the computer i explained my intent and he told me that he thought i should upgrade to windows pro since that is one of the stipulations required to trade up through microsoft for free.
    As for who makes the drivers i really dont care who it is as long as it makes my system work.[:D]. So the problem im running into is making sure that every device on my system works correctly once i convert to 64 bit windows.
     
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  18. brianstretch

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    You can buy WinXP x64 from Newegg, MWave, and other such stores in OEM packaging. (This is my preferred way to buy 32-bit WinXP too.) You have to buy it "with hardware" and any thin excuse will do (a mouse, a cable, etc). It's been available for quite some time now for about the same price as 32-bit WinXP Pro.

    HP is a component maker. They have failed to provide 64-bit drivers for their all-in-one printers, for starters. Porting drivers to 64-bits is relatively easy. If HP wanted to, they could tell their component suppliers that if they wanted to continue doing business with HP they will supply 64-bit drivers and it would be done in a matter of weeks, if not days. But since they won't do that with their own components I'm not terribly hopeful.

    They've had over a year to prepare for this. They have no excuse for not being ready.
     
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    <blockquote id='quote'> quote:<hr height='1' noshade id='quote'>Originally posted by brianstretch

     
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    Anybody buy an 80gb 5400rpm for their unit. Just wondering what hard drive brands they use. I hope mine is a Hitachi.
     
  21. Louis

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    I try to buy OEM whenever possible also, tends to be alot cheaper. The problem with this path now is that you can buy a 16 bit mouse and get a 64bit OS. MS makes the sell, but they are not providing drivers necessarily for that 16 bit mouse and the manufacture may not be either. Once again the consumer suffers.

    The problem here is that MS has put the cart before the horse more or less. Neither MS or the hardware manufactures are really up to speed on 64 bit. It is as if each is waiting for the other to do something, both sides want 64 bit but they are taking baby steps.

    MS would love for people to give up their 32bit XP for the 64bit XP. Once you do, you can not go back to 32 bit XP, your stuck and MS now has you locked into 64 bit. One's mind can run rampant as to why MS would do this. [ :)]

    I still believe that comlete or even adequate 64 bit support will not be available until you see Boxed retail packs on the shelf or perhaps if Dell where to move to AMD and sell a bazillon units then all the manufactures will darn sure provide 64 bit. [ :)]

    I have a ZV6000, I will upgrade to XP Pro 64 when the box hits the shelf and not before. I just think that as consumers we need to be really cautious at this point. History has taught me not too expect to very much yet. [ ;)]
     
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    <blockquote id='quote'> quote:<hr height='1' noshade id='quote'>Originally posted by laptoper

     
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    The following appear under "Other devices" (basically the question mark devices):
    Mass Storage Controller
    Multimedia Audio Controller
    PCI Modem

    The Mass Storage Controller appears to correspond to the digital media device. I cannot read flash devices.

    The Multimedia Audio Controller - well - no sound.

    The PCI Modem might depend on the audio controller. Don't know why I suspect this, but I do. I also suspect that I well never use the modem.

    I installed three downloaded drivers. The rest are "out of the box". Two I got from an hp web site: http://h18000.www1.hp.com/support/files/hpcpqdt/us/locoscat/1123.html

    SP30307.exe ATI video driver and control panel
    SP30304.exe SB400 chipset

    I tried to install the video driver supplied by ATI and it failed - don't know why.

    I don't think these drivers were intended for use on the zv6000, but they work anyway.

    The last driver I installed was from the synaptics web site. For me this is a must. I have to turn tap off or I can't do anything.

    Win64_ALL.zip from http://www.synaptics.com/support/drive.cfm

    Hmm. I think I will try to install the realtek audio driver from the HP web site. Don't know why it should work. I'd wait to post but you never know what will happen installing this and that.

    As far as performance is concerned, native Win xp x64 utilities seem to run faster. The most noticable for me is browsing compressed files. 32 bit Explorer does not work well for me in that area, hanging on big zip files. 64 bit explorer is MUCH faster.

    I have not installed the 32 bit apps enought to know how they go. I'm thinking SQL Server and, of course, office are naturals for me. Another would be the full version of Adobe to see how long Distiller takes to produce a PDF from a truely hugh Word document.

    The last would help. I'm using Win x64 right now, and I KNOW I've got something mis-spelled.

    Oh, and the buttons along the top don't work well either. That might be the last thing to come. Another suspicion - that component is pretty specific to HP, don't know for sure.
     
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    Well, realtek didn't work. The driver installed, the device came out of the "other devices", and there were no errors. No sound either!
     
  25. mtrivs

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    When i tried to install the latest drivers from the HP website, it wouldnt let me install them. I went into device manager and then opened the directory in which the driver files had been extracted to and chose the .inf file corresponding to my device. I chose to update the driver and all was good.

    One tip i can give you is after you install the latest version, open the display settings and change the OpenGL and direct3D settings to optimal performance. A definate must!

    ~HP Pavilion ZV6000 series~
    -AMD Athlon 64 3200+ 2.0GHz
    -512MB RAM
    -128MB ATI Mobility radeon X200m
    -80GB 5400RPM HDD
    -15.4" Widescreen w/ Brightview
    -DVD±RW W/DL support
    -XP Pro
    -2X 12-Cell Batteries
     
  26. Imacyco

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    Has anyone attempted to update the graphics drivers? I am still using the factory ones but HL2 (actually Steam) complains that my drivers are out of date. Is it worth it to update? Any significant upgrades?

    Also, has anyone else had a problem with heat on their keyboard? I am using a laptop cooler (a pad at the bottom with 2 fans) but the keyboard gets warm around the middle area. Its just a tad cooler than being uncomfortable.
     
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    There are 2 ways you can go to update your graphics drivers:
    1) go to the HP support pages and download the driver they have listed under your model
    2) go to the ATI site and download the latest catalyst drivers

    I have installed the catalyst drivers and have found that they seem to work better than the ones HP gives out.

    ~HP Pavilion ZV6000 series~
    -AMD Athlon 64 3200+ 2.0GHz
    -512MB RAM
    -128MB ATI Mobility radeon X200m
    -80GB 5400RPM HDD
    -15.4" Widescreen w/ Brightview
    -DVD±RW W/DL support
    -XP Pro
    -2X 12-Cell Batteries
     
  28. gguerini

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    Is anyone using Windows 2003?
     
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    What's that?

    ------------------------------
    Http://www.zv6000forums.com

    For all zv6k/r4k dialogue.
    ------------------------------

    R4000 with:
    Athlon64 3200+ (2.0GHz/512kb L2cache)
    15.4" Widescreen w/Brightview
    1,024MB DDR SDRAM (2x512-PC2700)
    60GB-5400RPM HardDrive
    LG DVD Writer w/DL
    54(g)Broadcom Integ.Wireless w/Speedbooster & Bluetooth
    12cell battery
     
  30. hr_phenom

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    <blockquote id='quote'> quote:<hr height='1' noshade id='quote'>Originally posted by gguerini

     
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    No, Windows 2003 Server.
    I installed this week, but some drivers doesnt work!
    - PCI ??
    - SM ??

    Do you know what this mean?

    Someone already have problems with Win2K3 and ZV6000?

    Thanks again.
     
  32. mtrivs

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    well if ur trying to run a server on a laptop, you bought the wrong machine for the job. Servers were meant to be run on desktops with high specs. I doubt you will ever find drivers for win 2003 on the ZV6000. Try driverguide.com and see what you can find.

    ~HP Pavilion ZV6000 series~
    -AMD Athlon 64 3200+ 2.0GHz
    -512MB RAM
    -128MB ATI Mobility radeon X200m
    -80GB 5400RPM HDD
    -15.4" Widescreen w/ Brightview
    -DVD±RW W/DL support
    -XP Pro
    -2X 12-Cell Batteries
     
  33. guarnefinca

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    <blockquote id='quote'> quote:<hr height='1' noshade id='quote'>Originally posted by robcope

     
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    <blockquote id='quote'> quote:<hr height='1' noshade id='quote'>Originally posted by mtrivs

     
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    I'd hunt down a 7200RPM laptop drive (Hitachi now, eventually Seagate) and swap that in rather than deal with an external drive. I have a Hitachi 60GB 7200RPM. Great drive. Alternatively, 5400RPM drives tend to have about the same throughput as 7200RPM but higher latency. Anything beats the 4200RPM drives HP is fond of. Stick with Hitachi and Seagate.

    If you can deal with the driver issues, get WinXP x64. It's based on Win2003 SP1 and is priced the same as WinXP Pro. You'll get a nice performance boost as 64-bit apps come out.
     
  36. mtrivs

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    Yea i would go with windows X64 before i went with server 2003, i have used 2003 and dont like it very much, but it what u like, not what i like.....

    ~HP Pavilion ZV6000 series~
    -AMD Athlon 64 3200+ 2.0GHz
    -512MB RAM
    -128MB ATI Mobility radeon X200m
    -80GB 5400RPM HDD
    -15.4" Widescreen w/ Brightview
    -DVD±RW W/DL support
    -XP Pro
    -2X 12-Cell Batteries
     
  37. guarnefinca

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    <blockquote id='quote'> quote:<hr height='1' noshade id='quote'>Originally posted by brianstretch

     
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    Currently Seagate Momentus 7200 is not readily availiable in retail. I will be getting one soon from distributor. I have installed Win x64 and encountered no problems except drivers not availiable for Card Reader.


    T.
     
  39. Plus_Sized_Model

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    Even with the mobo issuses would the HP Zv6000 w/ AMD 3200+ be faster than the Dell 6000 P M 1.6 both w/512 mb of ram
     
  40. xAMDvsIntelx

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    Hey, I just got the zv6000, here are the specs:
    Athlon 64 2.4GHz 4000+
    1 GB of RAM
    128 MB Video Mem.
    100 GB HD
    15.4 inch w/ Brightview
    12-Cell Battery

    However, I just talked to one of my friends, and he says my laptop is going to be obsolete when Windows Longhorn comes out. Is this true, or is he just jelous that I have a better computer than he does? (He has a Dell Inspirion 6000 just FYI)
     
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    Lol.

    On the contrary, your friend's laptop will be obsolete first, because Pentium M processors don't support 64 bit computing. As applications and even Windows are being moved to 64 bit, you're well set for the future.
     
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    phew ...!! incredible thread

    it's been a learning curve ..

    = )
     
  43. Rahul

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    Dang! This is one busy thread!!
     
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    Thanks Krispy Kreme!


    AI
     
  45. TheJedi

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    about 17 hours till i get mine :D!!!
     
  46. ab500

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    Try 5 and a half days over here. I wish I paid more for shipping now..
    Jul 10, 2005 9:31 PM At local FedEx facility SHANGHAI CN
     
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    Patience, my friend! Patience!
     
  48. turk128

    turk128 Newbie

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    First off, this is a great forum; using what I read in this thread, I bought my brother a ZV6000. Worked great for the first couple of months (I was even able to install and play Warhammer on it).

    There seems to be a problem recently, thou. There's something really buggy with either the DL DVD±RW or the system; before, we were able to burn DvDs and surf the web but recently burning DvDs seem to suck up all the system resources (CPU usage 100%, lauching even the simplest stuff like Win Explorer lags and even the mouse cursor is noticeably slower). To make it worst, we were able to polish off a DvD in around 10 minutes before but recently it takes nearly an hour. Also, after using a DvD, sometimes when I log off, the windows log-off tune turns all funky and staticky.

    I hate to send this back into the shop (since my bro is totally addicted to it now) and any help is appreciated.
     
  49. brianstretch

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    This is probably a Windows problem rather than a hardware problem. I'd suspect the usual virus or spyware infection. Bring up Task Manager and see which processes are using up all your CPU time when you're burning a DVD and when your machine is supposed to be idle. There's a slight chance your DVD burner has switched to PIO mode from DMA mode, check that in Device Manager (PIO = slow, high CPU overhead), but I doubt it. Your burning software could have been mangled somehow, use this as an excuse to update to the latest version (which program BTW?).
     
  50. turk128

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    Thanks for the response!

    Hmmm... I believe it just might be the PIO/DMA mode change.

    Unfortunately, I have no idea how to change those; Device Manager doesn't seem to have anything with that in it. I even went to BIOS; it would seem laptop BIOS is pretty different from desktops, i.e. no way to change it from there.

    I googled around and stumbled on this article:
    http://www.michna.com/kb/WxDMA.htm

    My bro has been sticking in some funky old DvDs so that might have caused XP to change to PIO mode. Now I just need to find a way to revert it to DMA mode. Any advice?
     
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