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    How to get an Envy 14" in Canada?

    Discussion in 'HP' started by Richhy, Jun 27, 2010.

  1. jb22

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    When I was still considering the Envy 14 I contacted HP Canada about the warranty. I was told that support for US models would come from the US, so any RMA would require shipping the laptop to the US. My only question is if there would be any issues having it shipped back.

    The company that was looking into getting me a US custom order Envy was Insight.ca. They don't usually deal with home users, more corporate/ enterprise clients. They are still looking into seeing if that can get custom Envys. In any case I went with the Elitebook 8440w instead. Good specs (for what I do), 3 year warranty, lighter then the Envy 14 and amazing build quality.
     
  2. Lmui

    Lmui Notebook Enthusiast

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    I went in-store to futureshop today and saw the envy 14 and i have to say the cover doesn't look anywhere near as bad as some people make it out to be. I think I'll bite the bullet and order from the guy on ebay since I doubt I'll be able to get it any cheaper up here for a long time. I'll let you guys know how it goes in about a week or so when I get my next paycheck.
     
  3. brendrt451

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    Okay, let me know how to order process goes for you. The eBay guy seemed trustworthy and has a good reputation. I may order from him too if you have a good experience.
     
  4. Lmui

    Lmui Notebook Enthusiast

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    Just as a warning my next payday is this Friday so the most likely scenario is I transfer the cash from my bank account on Friday afternoon to my mom's and use her credit card to buy the laptop which means it'll be probably 2 weeks or so from today before I start standing a chance of letting you know how it goes.
     
  5. sasjegbruv123

    sasjegbruv123 Notebook Evangelist

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    so has it been confirmed that the Hp envy 1050-ca has the 1600 * 900 display for sure or was it just a one-off? My dad is going canada soon so i would like him to pick up one of these guys... though i'd prefer the i5-450m over the i5-430m, are there much differences between the two?
     
  6. iNoob.x

    iNoob.x Notebook Evangelist

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    Sweet. Will check out that site immediately.

    From the stated specifications on BestBuy.ca and Futureshop.ca it seems the resolution is 1366x768. I really hope this is a mistake. Also, the 450m is faster than the 430 but I doubt you'd notice too much of a difference.

    Can you confirm whether the screen was 1366x768 or 1600x900? Thanks
     
  7. sasjegbruv123

    sasjegbruv123 Notebook Evangelist

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    http://forum.notebookreview.com/hp-envy-hdx/500435-good-news-all-envy-canada-buyers-3.html

    that's my source, someone confirm if they can please.
     
  8. towely420

    towely420 Notebook Enthusiast

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    Why would a non-Canadian buy a laptop in Canada? It's like the worst country to buy a laptop in.
     
  9. sasjegbruv123

    sasjegbruv123 Notebook Evangelist

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    it's better than the UK tbh...
     
  10. iNoob.x

    iNoob.x Notebook Evangelist

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    I just assumed he lives somewhere other than the US or Canada and his dad is coming here (Canada) for business or something.
     
  11. Lmui

    Lmui Notebook Enthusiast

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    The futureshop I went to was a smaller one and didn't have the envy 14 on display, only the 13/15. I had them open up a box with the envy 14 so I could see the laptop and the build quality since I plan on buying online elsewhere, I wasn't about to turn it on and check the resolution so sorry I can't confirm that.

    I have to say though, the bilingual keyboard doesn't sit too well with me. The prospect of dishing another hundred something to get the english keyboard or living with a premium laptop with a keyboard that doesn't match the keys irks me to say the least.
     
  12. iNoob.x

    iNoob.x Notebook Evangelist

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    Yea, I feel your pain about the keyboard. Personally I've gotten used to the bilingual keyboard from spending two years with my current laptop. I will visit my local FutureShop today to check out the laptop and ask if they're willing to do price match...(maybe Calgarians are nicer??)...

    Also, anyone know how the general process of getting extended warranty from your credit card goes? Are there catches?
     
  13. PaddingtonBrown

    PaddingtonBrown Newbie

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    It seems as though lots of people are in the same boat as me. I have been looking for a laptop for the past month online and have noticed how some brand names like Acer, Asus, HP, with exceptions being Sony, Dell and Apple (customizing an Apple is way overpriced I noticed), has no customization on their Canadian site and instead chooses to sell pre-configured laptops to the local dealers like Bestbuy etc for way too much money. I have also noticed that they are all the crappiest configurations possible and it is truly hard to find a decent laptop. I for one don't like paying top dollar for a laptop that isnt exactly that. I get the feeling that they think Canadians are stupid. Anyway for those looking for a way to order a good HP Envy 14 with good internals from the US site or any US only shipped item, there is a place in Niagara Falls, like 5 mins from the border on th US side that can recieve your packages (you put their shipping info on the order) and hold it for you to pick up for 5 bucks per package (They don't forward packages to Canada). For those like me who live close to Niagara Falls, this provides a great alternative for the unfortunate US shipping only. Their site is U.S. Address. check it out if you're interested
     
  14. PaddingtonBrown

    PaddingtonBrown Newbie

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    I forgot to mention that one downside to this method is that HP does business in almost every state and considering NY has taxes, you will be charged NY taxes and then taxes again when bringing it over the border (assuming you declare it). I'm pretty sure there isn't duty as well on laptops but it still comes out to a couple hundred bucks taxes on a $1400 laptop which sucks yes but is still cheaper than here all together for a better configured laptop.
     
  15. Skwiggler

    Skwiggler Notebook Guru

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    US address is what I used $5 and they hold it for a week? Deal and a half.
    Brought my Envy over, configured at $1200, I paid $143 taxes at the border. No duties, technology is not dutiable.
    So overall, close to $1400.
    Still better than $1700 from BestBuy/FutureShop and I have better specs.
     
  16. iNoob.x

    iNoob.x Notebook Evangelist

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    I was able to get my local BestBuy to price match pc-computer.com, which sells it for $1433.99. In the end I paid $1508.84 after everything. I'm happy with it.
     
  17. Underpowered

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    If there was still any doubt about Envy 14's screen res in Canada..
    http://forum.notebookreview.com/hp-...ews-all-envy-canada-buyers-5.html#post6504743. Pics of the REAL resolution. It's 1600x900 :) There's also pics of the keyboard in that thread too.

    And you can do what iNoob did above; PM a much cheaper online store (google envy 14 1050-ca canada...within 10 minutes you'll probably find at least a half dozen stores selling the Envy 14 for close to $1400) at FS or BB.
     
  18. sasjegbruv123

    sasjegbruv123 Notebook Evangelist

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    I would be all up for getting it from bb or FS... i just hate the bilingual keyboard
     
  19. iNoob.x

    iNoob.x Notebook Evangelist

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    Yea, the screen is 1600x900 for sure. I think it's retarded that FS/BB (and everyone else that sells it, including the online stores) are listing it as WXGA (1280x768 or something like that). Probably HP's fault. The screen is AWESOME by the way.
     
  20. sasjegbruv123

    sasjegbruv123 Notebook Evangelist

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    so the keyboard only comes in bilingual?
     
  21. iNoob.x

    iNoob.x Notebook Evangelist

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    As far as I know, yes.
     
  22. Lmui

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    Well since HP went and jacked up the price for the better screen, I'm going to borrow some cash and get it today. I'm not going to risk the guy raising the price by a hundred bucks/paying an extra hundred for the better screen.
     
  23. brendrt451

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    You are gonna order from eBay? Tell me how it goes. Does he charge the increased price?
     
  24. Lmui

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    As far as I know, the ebay guy isn't going to charge me extra for the radiance screen. My guess would be that he won't change the price until the current listing expires. I ordered it last week so another week at the earliest for other news.
     
  25. jb22

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    I just want to say this again for Canadians looking at the Envy 14, to maybe take a loot at the Elitebook 8440w. I've had mine for just over a week and have been very happy with it. Lighter, cheaper, 3 year warranty, great build quality and faster with more ports on it, seems like the best and better alternative unless you want to do gaming, which I don't. The only thing the 8440w doesn't have is the back lit keyboard, rather it had a ThinkPad style lamp at the top of the screen that works really well. it also has displayport (full size) over HDMI, but I just bought an displayport to HDMI adapter and it is fine.

    Just want to put that out there for people as a viable alternative that's easy to get in Canada.
     
  26. Jeffrey17

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    I could get somebody from the states to order this for me. I'll only have to make the trip down there and pick it up. If I take everything out the packaging and put them into my luggage, I can avoid customs/duties/taxes/etc right? I know they are strict at the border, but surely you can just say you brought this from home, right? Anybody have experiences?
     
  27. iNoob.x

    iNoob.x Notebook Evangelist

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    Yea I've done it. I once bought an external hard drive and my friend bought a laptop. We didn't do a road trip just for these items, but we bought them while we were down there. We went together and came back with the stuff. The customs guys didn't say anything...I mean how could they? Everything is out of its box, they can't possibly argue with reason that the stuff were purchased new. Just make sure you either throw away the manuals or hide it really well or else they might ask you why you bring your laptop's user manual and warranty with you, lol.
     
  28. Jeffrey17

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    Lol, for sure. I could just stuff those in my pants, haha. I'm looking forward to this trip, should be heading down soon. I got to visit some relatives for the summer anyway. Thanks for the response. :)
     
  29. iNoob.x

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    lol, good luck. So what kind of configuration did you order and what kind of prices are you getting for it? I was originally going to do a road trip down south to get the laptop but after Best Buy agreed to price match the $1433 online price I just pulled the trigger. I think $1508 after everything for this computer is worth it although people down south could probably get it for much cheaper with BCB and such.
     
  30. Jeffrey17

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    I am only going through the trouble of getting it from the States because of the customizations. But I'm actually debating between this, the Envy 14, or the DV6T Select Edition.

    For the Envy 14, the configuration goes:
    * Genuine Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
    * Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-450M Dual Core processor (2.40GHz, 3MB L3 Cache)with Turbo Boost up to 2.66 GHz
    * 6GB DDR3 System Memory (2 Dimm)
    * 500GB 7200RPM SATA Hard Drive with HP ProtectSmart Hard Drive Protection
    * 1GB ATI Mobility Radeon(TM) HD 5650 switchable graphics [HDMI] - For Dual Core Processors
    * 14.5" diagonal HD+ HP Radiance Infinity LED Display (1600x900)
    * SuperMulti 8X DVD+/-R/RW with Double Layer Support (Slot Load)
    * HP TrueVision HD Webcam and Dual Digital Integrated Microphones [For Radiance Infinity Display]
    * Intel Wireless-N Card with Bluetooth
    * Backlit Keyboard
    * One 8 Cell Lithium Ion (standard) + HP ENVY 6-cell Slim Fit Extended-Life Battery (over-sized)
    For $1,589.99

    And for the DV6T:
    * Genuine Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
    * Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-450M Dual Core processor (2.40GHz, 3MB L3 Cache)with Turbo Boost up to 2.66 GHz
    * 8GB DDR3 System Memory (2 Dimm)
    * FREE Upgrade to 500GB 7200RPM SATA Hard Drive with HP ProtectSmart Hard Drive Protection
    * 1GB ATI Mobility Radeon(TM) HD 5650 switchable graphics [HDMI, VGA]
    * 15.6" diagonal High Definition LED HP Brightview Widescreen Display (1366x768)
    * TouchScreen with HP TouchSmart's intuitive multi-touch applications (includes HP TrueVision Webcam)
    * SuperMulti 8X DVD+/-R/RW with Double Layer Support
    * Intel Wireless-N Card with Bluetooth
    * Backlit Keyboard with Fingerprint Reader
    * 50% OFF! One 6 Cell (standard) and One 9 Cell (over-sized) Lithium Ion Battery
    * System Recovery DVD with Genuine Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
    For $1,053.99 after the coupon.

    I think I'm leaning more towards the DV6T. It's $500 cheaper, and it's got pretty much the same specs, aside from the resolution and probably battery life. But yeah, it sucks that we can't customize our laptops here in Canada.
     
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    Okay, I am going to order from the eBay website. I looked at the Envy 14 at my local bestbuy, they only have 3 in my city. And they are 1600 for the base i5 version. Also, he mentioned he heard in a meeting there may be a free xbox 360 with purchase of every envy 14, but he could not confirm.
     
  32. sasjegbruv123

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    holy crap that would be awsum!!! everything i need in one go lol
     
  33. iNoob.x

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    Yea, the DV6T is definitely a performer on a budget. But are you getting any kind of discount for your Envy 14 customization? Because when compared to mine I can see 450m > 430m, 500GB < 640GB and slice battery > none. for $100 more. Is that after or before tax? Exchange rates?
     
  34. tornbacchus

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    Alright well I ordered my laptop from the states and have it here in Canada (long story)

    Thing is, I have a problem with it (CPU whine) So I cannot return it. I was just talking with HP canada and he changed my laptop to be a Canadian, using an alias. Now their system thinks my laptop is a Canadian, even though I purchased it in the states, and it isn't even available in Canada.

    Now all I have to do is call HP canada, just like I would if I bought this laptop from Canada, and I am able to get it repaired here in Canada, good to know if you want to purchase it from the states.

    I also got quoted on extended warrenties:

    2 Year additional warrenty (equals 3 years) + accidental damage

    = $279.99

    That is actually a pretty good price for 3 years of free repair and accidental damage
     
  35. sasjegbruv123

    sasjegbruv123 Notebook Evangelist

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    ah man... does anyone if the best buy stores (in toronto) still carry envy 14 and it's just their website that doesn't have it anymore??
     
  36. tornbacchus

    tornbacchus GO leafs.. Wait, Nevermid

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    I know their futureshop on Queensway still has the envy 14. Bestbuy I do not know. \
     
  37. iNoob.x

    iNoob.x Notebook Evangelist

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    Man, I'd be a little pissed if the Envy 14 in Best Buy is getting replaced with something better. On the other hand, I'd be very glad I bought this ahead of time if they replace it with the lower-end screen (which wasn't available before).
     
  38. Jeffrey17

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    That's before taxes and exchange rates, no discounts. The price that shows up on the order page on the HP website, in USD.
     
  39. Jeffrey17

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    Wow, that's pretty cool. You can call up HP Canada and get a warranty on a laptop purchased from the states? They'll do that? I might just give that a shot when I get mine too.
     
  40. brendrt451

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    Sweet! I'm gonna purchase, then do what you did. I'll also add on the extra extended warranty.
     
  41. kotmul

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    Hey tornbacchus what number did u call and what did u say to them?
     
  42. awaisuk

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    Hey.

    I have bought HP Envy 14 from the US.

    Can the warranty be used with HP Canada?

    Please let me know.
     
  43. pdot

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    Yes, that would be me :)

    I bought my laptop in the US, and brought it over to Canada.

    Once the laptop is in Canada, you now always contact HP Canada. They will give your US laptop a Canadian Alias (Canadian model number) so It will be recognized as a Canadian laptop.

    I believe the US model number is 14-1000-CTO (Custom to order) I think.

    My Canadian model number for my laptop is 14-1050CA.

    It works perfectly. I have 1 year warranty, and my laptop is in for service as we speak in Canada. I am also considering getting the extra 2 year warranty + accidental damage for $279.

    It was no hassle at all talking to HP Canada to change over my laptop. It's now just like I bought my laptop in Canada, but saving $800 :)

    Also, the number that I called was:

    1-800-474-6836.

    I talked to Robert, who actually lives in Canada, and was much more knowledgeable than the US CS.

    PS: If you want the extra warranty, you purchase it separately through HP Canada AFTER you have your laptop. DO NOT purchase the HP US warranty when buying your laptop. It will not work, and the Canadian warranty is cheaper as well.
     
  45. awaisuk

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    Aright I called HP Canada, and they told me that I can use the warranty in Canada aswell as I bought the laptop from US.

    As my DVD Drive is not working properly, they are sending me a replacement, but I will have to install it myself.
     
  46. Lawliett

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    Since I live in Toronto, I think I'm just going to ship it to some place in Buffalo or Niagra Falls. What places did you guys use? I already have this one:
    U.S. Address
    But I don't know if it's credible or not. Any suggestions or opinions?
     
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    yea i figured. but since the thread is titled "how to get an envy 14 in canada" and most people seem to be wanting to order through the states with an address forwarding service or such, it may be a better idea to save the hassle and grab one from here =)
     
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    Just ordered mine from NCIX.com

    1500$ shipping and taxes included, it's cheaper in the US, even with 150$ shipping, Brokerage and custom fees... But the Canadian model is prebuilt... so I'll have it by Monday probably :eek:.

    It come with Radiance Display, 6gb of ram the i5-450M and a 640gb drive.
     
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