Hp envy 14 Sandy Bridge prediction

My guess - they're trying to get the screen right this time, trying to arrange a supplier that can keep them in high-res 14.5" screens, as well as getting enough in stock for the product launch.

 

We're talking about the largest laptop manufacturer in the world, why can all the other companies handle the stock supplies, the backorder and refresh their products anyway ? I don't think that HP is unable to do that, they deliberately delay the Envy's refresh
Besides, except the radiance screen which they said they won't sell anymore, all the screens (1366x768 and 15"+ 1920x180) are very easy to find on the market

 

Ya it's definitely something with the screen. My guess is that they are going with 14.1 or 15, which has a much larger range of suppliers.

Going to wait til the end of April, if nothing, then I am going to just pick up the old Envy for $750 or some other laptop.

 

For those thinking they are trying to clear stock of the old envy 14s right now with all these coupons. The i7-720qm doesn't seem to be offered anymore, maybe out of stock?

 

I wish so too; but when you start looking, most suppliers dont bother making high resolution screens for 15.6" and below. I found a vast majority of 1366x768 screens ...

So I am very glad I could get my envy 14 when the radiance came back.

 

smoking deal on E14 w/ Radiance in the HP outlet for $819
maybe a sign that the next gen will be announced very soon???

HP ENVY 14t-1200 W7HP-64 i5 480M 2.66GHz 500GB 4GB DVDRW 14.5HD(1600x900) Radiance Infinity LED 1GB Cam NIC WLAN BT 2-in-1 Rmkt NB PC

 

It's probably a scratch and dent.

 

yep, another one of these returns

 

according to the description it's not. they typically state if it's either "scratch and dent" or "remarket" (refurbished).
even if it is "scratch and dent," you can order it and if the damage exceeds what is acceptable to the buyer, you can return it for a full refund.

 

You guys are super optimistic - i think you'll be disappointed unfortunately.

A lot of HP's energy in the PC division seems to be going into integrating Palm's WebOS software into the machines - the CEO said that WebOS would be in every HP machine from late 2011 onwards. HP seems content to differentiate their products on software and apps rather than hardware. Cheaper strategy than trying to build a unique machine with sleek looks, powerful components, and decent battery life and cooling capacity.

Face it - HP hasn't even been able to get a multitouch trackpad right out of the box, let alone battery life and cooling. The Envy failed to effectively market itself as a straight-up MBP competitor with better gaming capabilities. By the time the MBP refresh happened last year, the Envy was no longer as compelling, except on price.

 

I wouldn't say $1.2 billion is necessarily "cheaper"...
If Web 0S is a hit, it will definitely set HP apart from the crowd.

 

Oh Im not an envy fan, specially the 14'', but man talk about nonsense, they did offer what was promised, they still offer the incredible power on the dv line. I dont know where you are pulling those conclusions

btw the dv6 is more powerful than the AW m14x, and they are about the same size, and lesser weight for the hp

 

I think what he meant was along the lines that HP failed to make the Envy line as well known as macbook pros. Go ask any average consumer and ask if he/she knows what a macbook pro look like, the answer will probably be yes. However if you ask them about the Envy series, they'll probably give you a blank stare and ask you what that is.
It is sad since the performance of the Envy line can eat MBPs for breakfast. It also shows you how ignorant the average consumer is.

 

That has a lot to do with Apple's marketing and their cult followers. Everyone knows what an ipad is, but few know what a tablet pc is. Everyone thinks my x200t is an ipad knockoff and that Apple created the concept of a tablet/slate.
Yes, the vast majority of consumers are ignorant.

 

Blaming the customer for the lack of Envy's market penetration isn't the right way to go about it. It's not the customer's job to know about every single model of Windows PC available. It is the manufacturer's job to make their product look unique among a sea of substitutes.

At least HP made it somewhat easy for them by giving the Envy line a simple identifiable name like Envy 14, 17 etc. Companies like Lenovo/Sony/Asus still haven't figured this out:

P Series, X series, Y series, TimelineX3820/4820/5820 plus a million other numbers to denote market segment, screen size, HDD size, etc....why does the consumer need to see that in the model's NAME?

HP's naming convention for the Pavilion line is also a mess: DM4t, DM1z, DM3t, DV6, DV5, DV5t....stupid. Keep all that extraneous data to within the serial number and not on the name of the machine.

 

No doubt about it, PC makers don't compare at all against Apple's marketing machine, but Apple only has a product line of 3 laptops (MBP, MB, MBA).

Anyway, let the buyers be ignorant. If they don't want to do a little research before dropping $1000+ on a new laptop, then let them. No sweat off my back. Chances are, because they don't really know any better, they're not going to notice a poor quality screen, keyboard flex, etc.

 

Did you miss the envy 14 being laptop of the year? Anyways i'm sure they will release something fairly soon. Maybe something entirely different.

 

This is true. Apple just markets the heck out of its products. Which costs lots of money to do which raises the price on the product. My girlfriend bought a regular mac for $1300 because it was white and you can laugh but think of how many people buy macs because they think it is the best because every ten minutes they see an apple ad and they don't know any better. I cannot believe people are paying $2500 for a mac pro

 

I can I was actually considering one for me, the MBP 15, the MBP 17 makes less sense.

First thing you got to do is to distance yourself from prejudice, pricing is something that people are less sensitive in the premium market, then you will see that the current crop of MBP are actually good, actually the MBP 15

 

The reason HP and some other manufacturers load up the consumer-line PCs which unbelievable amounts of crapware is specifically to reduce the price for the customer: the computers can be discounted because the crapware developers are paying a fee to "advertise" their stuff on HP laptops. This isn't the case on macbooks.

Advertising is expensive, so why not focus the consumer-market advertising dollars (TV, web, print) on the top-line stuff (Envy) and reflect that in the price? A modestly configured Envy is at least US$1200, which is on par with the base model MBP. Say what you will about the performance not being comparable, but MBPs have better battery life, are lighter, and can play most of the games the buying public cares about (SC2, MW2, etc).

My assumption here is that consumer and business lines operate separately with their own marketing budgets. Obviously since HP's major moneymaker is corporate accounts, most of their money should be invested there.

Marketing for the consumer line could be done better I think. The only time I even see an HP advertisement is in a Best Buy pamphlet with some CRAPPY celeron model 17" laptop being sold for $300. This is the stuff most consumers see and buy, and is EXACTLY the sort of model that will fail within 1-2 years due to the shoddy build quality that goes along with these cheap laptops. At the low end, ASUS and Dell laptops/netbooks are much better built than HPs. The whole brand suffers as a result.

 

The refresh is close, very close, take a look at the beats edition's price right now.

 

ENVY Laptop, Tablet, & Netbook PCs | HP Official Store



See.

 

Think it was a pricing error. Why is the normal Envy 14 still 999.

 

Most likely because the refresh will not include the Beats edition...which is a shame as I like the colors (not so much the Beats branding). Seems like they are clearing stock of the Beats edition because they will no longer be using the same chassis/design. Or maybe I'm wrong, I'm not sure exactly how they do things.

But looks like I'm returning my current Beats edition ordered a few weeks ago to make use of this new deal (which seems great)

 

I doubt they will be discontinuing the Beats edition. And I think they will be using a new chassis for both of the new Envy 14s, the vents on this one are really not helping the overheating problem.

 

I want them to bring back the 13 inch!! I wonder why it was discontinued?

 

because it was too expensive. battery life without slice was decent. with slice, the weight was too much (5.2 lbs)
at the time of release, you could get a Sony Vaio Z with better CPU, GPU, SSD, ODD, and lighter weight for same or less.
at least that's my opinion on why it failed. but at current prices for refurb models, it's a bargain.

 

its just you need to sell an arm to buy a Viao Z, as Sony never has coupons.

 

Looks like a ton of the processor and gpu options are unavailable..cleared out?

 

Maybe they are clearing old stock, so they can bring in new stock

 

The weight of the standard Envy 14 is 5.57lbs. Check the specs listed on either HP's website or Amazon's. It says 5.2lbs on the thumbnail image on HP's site, but in the specs table, it's listed at its correct weight.

 

look at the post above mine. I'm talking about the 13.

 

http://forum.notebookreview.com/hp-...eats-sandy-bridge-real-possible-ordering.html

Please read the post. Envy 14 is real, currently in testing the chipset. There is a possibility of a way-way early ordering see the thread.
This information is coming for a very certain department in HP with basically access to different Envy laptops. My contact told me they were at this very moment testing out the Envy 14.

Here's what I have:
No radiance display, they will be using the same 1366x768 resolution display.
There doesn't seem to be a different in cosmetics.
Just processor/chipset.
USB 3.0 is not available at this time however they are indeed testing new firmware for USB 3.0. No further comment.
Options for processors seem to be i7-2630QM and i7-2820QM as well as Dual core i5 Sandy bridge processors.

 

What about graphics? They should upgrade those to the 6xxx series at least

 

Did not ask when I was speaking with my contact.

 

Just bumping this thread since the other one is closed. Anyone receive anymore info from support staff? Also does anyone know if the i5 processors will be back in stock for the current Envy 14, I might just pick one up if the price is still $899 for the i5 model. If the new one comes out within 21 days I can always just return it.

 

I wish they would announce this soon so online retailers will adjust their pricing for the older models the Envy 14 on Amazon has jumped up to $999 after being on sale for $930, then $980.

 

Can ask your contacts if is included the 6770m graphics, as in the present dv6t?
is the option that you would have to struggle with the m14x

I will definitely buy one if this card is confirmed instantly.

thanks mate

 

I haven't asked my contact about the GPU, I gave up on the Envy 14 SB information thread after meeting several... "trolls" and people who wanted to bicker.
Just wait for HP's announcement as I won't be offering to order a early Envy 14 SB nor offer information on it anymore. Sorry, it just isn't worth it for me after that disaster of a thread.

 

oks, do not worry then, thanks anyway, I hope HP keep up the good work

cheers

 

So the general consensus is that the refresh will happen this summer?

 

I hope so, because he is on sale on m14x, and hp should not waste time to put a competitor in the market could lose a few sales if it goes too long

I'm torn between dv6t and m14x, but I like to wait to see if HP releases envy14 SB, if you have the same hardware as the dv6t but with better screen and with backlit keyboard,

certainly be my choice

 

Your thinking is exactly like mine. I'm ok with the standard dv6t screen but of course I would take a better one if it's out there. The M14x is really cool, but I'm wary that I'll end up hating the design in 2-3 yrs.

The longest I can wait is summer. Then I need to buy something.

 

Waiting for SB Envy 14/15 else will buy Dell XPS15 even though I do not like the looks of XPS15.

 

New here and been reading this thread for ages haha.

Im the same as you both, I thing i will regret buying a m14x as it looks a bit to nerdy. That leaves me with either the new dell xps15 or dv6t at this point I can wait till early august otherwise will be buying one of them.

Hope envy 14/15 come out soon

 

if you guys want SB and dont care about the screen then here's a new 14" one:

Hp Pavillion dm4x
HP Pavilion dm4 and dm4x Entertainment PC series | HP Official Store

although it doesnt have usb 3.0 or backlit keyboard.

 

in exactly the same situation as zachary, both with the thread lurking, and the laptop thoughts and wants.

i specced that dm4x up to where i want and it was ~1300, but i dont want to pay over 1k for a 1366x768. well regardless of what i pay i want a hi-res screen. both dell options are f'ing ugly. its a nightmare.

 

I think clevo / sager offer high res and SB .

 

Didn't the last set of Envy 14s come out around september of last year? Maybe they'll wait until september again to refresh the line

 

Ugh, I wish they would hurry up and refresh the envy. While I want better screen resolution, I get such a great discount through my work with HP that it's hard to not order a refreshed dm4x