Hp envy 14 Sandy Bridge prediction

I heard in the thread that got closed, they're already testing the Envy 14 SB.

 

its out! check the hp.com!

 

Doesn't look like it to me. Link?

 

what a bad joke. haha?

 

He might be thinking of the HP dm4x, which HP just announced a few days ago. It's another 14" laptop that succeeds their prior dm4t and includes the SB CPU. Looks like HP has planned to upgrade their entire fleet and is saving their HP Envy 14 announcement for last.

 

Last year HP anounced its Envy line and the Pavillion series in May. I would expect we'll see the new Envy fairly soon.

Any rumor about an ultralight model to complete with the Air, Samsung Series 9 or the Lenovo Thinkpad X1?

Bronsky

 

From HP? Nope. Dell has one in the pipelines.


As for an Envy refresh, the dm4x has me wondering whether HP is remaining faithful to the Envy 14.

 

Yea after looking at the dm4x I'm wondering whats going to be premium about the envy if the look is going to be the same? Graphics card? Battery life?

 

possibly a 1600x900 (albeit not Radiance) screen?

 

The dm4x doesn't have a backlit keyboard

 

While a radiance screen would be nice, I'd be content with a 1600x900 matte screen. Im not too picky about color gamut, contrast, and all that on the laptop itself, I just want more real estate + a good GPU. If I want accurate color, I'll just use a desktop monitor.

 

Love the avatar. I'm a recent returning player to GW. Trying to get my to 30 titles.

 

Doesn't the dm4x have a longer battery life than the envy 14? Supposedly?...haha

 

I've been watching this forum and HP's website for about 3 months now, but I still see no sign of the refresh. I hope it comes early this summer, as I need it for school next year.

I leaped at the deal where the beats edition was only $690 with HPA, but after the transaction went through, HP cancelled and made no attempt to make up for the error. That ruined my day...

Does anyone have any information? My impatience is setting in...

 

looks like hothardware has news of it on there front page but seems to error out when I try to click the article =/

UPDATE:
also engadget has a report on it too
http://www.engadget.com/2011/05/09/hp-unveils-the-pavilion-dv4-envy-14-with-sandy-bridge-and-a-re/

 

lol at least we now the exterior stays mostly the same. Aka same aesthetics and internal design, which means we're still stuck with the useless optical bay, same capacity battery, and 6550 as it is unlikely that they have improved the cooling.

 

I've heard the 6550 is just a rebranded 5650. Does this mean they slapped a new sticker on it and nothing changed or is there a change but its just minimal as in not much performance change?

Could the 5650 owners update their drivers with the 6550 drivers? I'm a novice when it comes to this so excuse my lack of knowledge.

 

Thats usually how manufacturer does things. AMD and nVidia just love to rebrand their graphics cards every half a year or so, just so that it seems to the consumer that they're getting an upgrade, when in fact that all they're getting is the same card with a minor clock bump.
OEMs also buy into this crap since they don't want to offer consumers a brand new sandy bridge laptop with "yesterday's" graphics card.
Considering that HP put a nerfed 5650 in out envy already due to heating concerns, I'd be glad if they just put a regularly clocked 6550 in the refresh.
I hope we can update the drivers, since the official HP one is a way outdated 10.7.

 

err rebranding for AMD was a first If my memory serves me well.

But since the 6600 series hsa the same heat output (TDP) that the older 5600, then we can hope for an improvement in the gpu dept. However the keyboard would still be trash regardless, nothing against chiclet, just against that terrible thing

 

Envy comes out June 15th, according to this article. Lets hope its a valid source. At least, it appears to be.

HP Envy 14 laptop gets Sandy Bridge CPU refresh | T3 magazine

 

I just finished with the 30 titles so that i can get all of the goodies when GW2 comes out. GW2 looks sooo dayum good, and the gameplay will be the most advanced MMORPG you've ever experienced. OMG im such a fanboy of the unreleased game, it is sad... Arenanet should pay me for this display of fanboyism.

If HP put anything less than a non-nerfed 6750 in the SB Envy14, i'd be so disappointed that i would prolly purchase a MBP15, thus beginning my fall from grace. I returned the Envy14 in my sig b/c the 5650 could not be denerfed w/ overclocking, and it had a radiance screen...

 

High doubt that'll happen. As none of the announcement articles mentioned any graphics improvement. And the inclusion of "cool sense" is just a marketing gimmick of saying "we nerfed your gfx card so your palm rest is now cooler".
Definitely no radiance though, so long Envy, I'll be switching to a refreshed Z soon.

 

well seeing as how 11.4 made my gpu be called: Radeon 5600/5700/6500 series.

yes.

yes it can.

 

Why do some people not think there will be a graphics about?

HP upgrades Mini 210, Envy 14, and dv4 with new features and hardware - Notebookcheck.net News

It will probably be a 6770, like the dv6 has.

 

I hope so, but...

 

But what? Seeing as the last-gen Envy had the same graphics as the last-gen dv6, I see no reason to think that the refresh won't get the same as the current dv6. HP also has to offer something better than what it offers in the dv4, at least outside of the U.S., which is a 6750.

 

Let's hope so, as the ENVY seems to fall in the High Performance category rather than the Ultra Portable. I think the 6770M has only been in larger sized notebooks though. The dm4x also has a 6000M series GPU, but that one's not so great.

 

If my view is the same, but I can not get my hopes, but should bring 6770 to compete with m14x, and also because it is the logic to follow, Envy14old 5650/dv5t 5650, now dv6t 6770/Envy14SB 6770 should be...

 

I don't think you have to worry. I would be shocked if it didn't come with an AMD 6770. If it comes with something lower than a 6750 I would be even more shocked.

 

I second that prediction.

 

Power consumption of 5650 = 15W, when nerfed probably 13W-ish
http://www.notebookcheck.net/ATI-Mobility-Radeon-HD-5650.23697.0.html
Power consumption of 6770, similar to 5770, which is 30W.
http://www.notebookcheck.net/AMD-Radeon-HD-6770M.43955.0.html
So unless HP figured out a way to dissipate twice the heat with the same fan design, I dunno how they are gonna deal with all that extra thermal output.

 

Good point.

HP has the 6750m in the foreign dv4. So does the MBP 15'' (I know it's 1 inch larger...)

At least put the that into your premium line!!!

 

bad point, actually we dont know the TDP of the 6600/6700 series card.

If they dont revamp the design and the keyboard, this is going to be one underpowered pc.

 

Also, regarding the screen, if they could just switch to a more normal screen size of 14.0" (whose idea was it to use 14.5" screens anyway?), they'd have no problem finding a good 1600x900 panel to stuff in there as an upgrade.

They could just use this screen:
http://forum.notebookreview.com/del...cial-swapping-xps-14-l401x-screen-thread.html

Everyone seems to like it, and since the cost of the screen is only $87 ($78.30 in bulk, and probably even cheaper direct from the manufacturer), HP could make a pretty penny by charging $99 for the upgrade.

 

It's purely an HP thing. I thought 14.1" was the standard size, but I guess there's also 14.0?

 

We may not know the TDP of the 6770, but we can still assume that it's significantly greater than that of the 5650. It will probably be slightly less than that of the 5770 (lower wattage seems to be the trend with the 6000 series cards) but still quite high for that of a thin, 14" laptop. I'd say that a Radeon HD 6750 would be far more realistic for a laptop in the Envy 14's class, as it is in the 15" Macbook Pro and as far as I know, there are little heating or power consumption predicaments.

Whatever happens, I just hope that HP doesn't deprive a "high end" notebook of graphics power to conserve battery life; the GMA 3000 should cover that during less intensive tasks. Anyways, most of us aren't purchasing a fast, semi-gaming laptop for battery life. Anything below a 6750 or 6730 is just unfortunate.

 

schrodinger's cat dont always work, aside this since there is no news about a revamped keyboard I lost all the interest. There is no major design changes to what was the worst envy (aside the 17), the 15 is still the best that they made, and I prefer smaller 13-14''

 

Even the 5770's TDP is a big step up from the current 5650, I doubt they will be able to put a 6770 if its TDP is comparable to the 5770s, without any changes in the cooling set up. I thought the reason the 5650 was nerfed was because of the TDP, (not exactly sure), but if that is the fact, then I doubt anything higher than 6650 happening. I am going to be so disappointed if that happens.

 

the reason that the 5650m was nerfed was because of the TDP. The new underclocked product from AMD (to avoid confusion) is the 6630m, this is a good bet on what is going to be on the envy 14, it fits in the vaio SB and the thinkpad edge e420s.

still get your hopes up guys

 

Why are we assuming that the refresh has the same cooling system?

 

Because HP decided to use the same carry over design. There's little room in this shell to cramp in an extra fan or use a bigger fan to significantly increase the cooling capacity. Unless they remove the optical bay, there's really very little wiggle room to do any kind of structural improvements down there.
Also, you would think for such a self-promoting company such as HP, who held like 5 press conferences in the past month just to announce maybe 4-5 new models each time, would bother to mention that they improved the graphics capabilities of the Envy 14 by a whopping 50% by using a 6770 instead of the old 5650. Come on people, HP even touted "coolsense" as some kind of technological breakthrough that magically makes your laptop run so much cooler, when in reality it's just some fan settings adjustments/undervolting that keeps your idle temps slightly lower.

 

Yes, I do not want to do illusions that we are talking about a very high configuration, and there are limits, but we have to wait and see, there's nothing announced yet, which may also be because they are still doing tests...

but we must also take into account that for example dv6t with 6770, not much bigger in size, is bigger than 1 or 2 inches? but remains very acceptable temperatures, so it does not seem impossible to achieve if we worked on achieving ...

 

HP Envy 14 gets Sandy Bridge update - Crave - CNET Asia

check this article out...

 

I am flabbergasted, providing that proves to be true. The 6630 is not even an upgrade over the 5650

 

Same, I'm disappointed. MEH................

 

14.1" was 16:10 and 4:3, 14.0" is 16:9

 

How would it be any different? They have not changed anything about the chassis, with that I doubt anything about the cooling is any different.

I know there was no way they could put anything above a 6650, but I kept a little bit of hope. But the 6630? Really?

Really wished I picked up the old envy when it was down to $800 now, atleast I hope the battery life is improved.

 

heh I was probably right. The 6630m is still an upgrade over the 5650m, something along the lines of 15fps

 

I know that I was the one who posted this, but we can't be sure that this article is 100% correct, despite the fact that I believe CNET is a credible source. Also, the article said that this was the BASE MODEL... I'm not implying that there will definitely be a higher end graphics option prevalent in the customization page, but that there still may be hope. If not, then I may be putting my money elsewhere.