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so what are we going to see in the dv2500 and dv6500 in the future??? the wsxga+ or something???
What else will they offer?

 

Really? I thought the 7600 was like a 150 price jump. 200 doesn't seem too far off from 150 to me. Hope it's not 300 though.

 

Don't know for certain, but there is chat floating around NBR speculating that the dv2500 may get the 8400M. Personally, I'll believe it when I see it, as that sounds a bit much for a 14.1" lappy from HP. A Go 7200 to an 8400M seems like a huge leap for them. IMO

 

I could swear I saw something somewhere from HP that listed the 8400M as an upcoming option on the dv2500 and dv6500 (with the 8600M being an option on the dv9500).

Agreed it does seem like a bit of a leap compared to what they have previously put on this model, but it seems like it might be more out of necessity (the 8400M part might be more available than an 8200M or whatever).

 

If they do put the 8400M in the dv2500t, would it be more worth it to buy the dv2500t or the dv6500t, disregarding the screen sizes of each?

 

I think the screen size would become one of the biggest factors at that point.

 

Thanks. What would the smaller factors be? I'm trying to compare the specs on these two models since I have to pick one but they look so similar.

 

I don't know that there would be any besides screen size at that point....... if the specs look similar, then you're basically left with form factor.

 

Was this it?

from the HP Press release: http://www.hp.com/hpinfo/newsroom/press_kits/2007/mobilitysummit/na_consumernb.pdf

 

That's the stuff...

 

Sadly, nothing I've seen strongly suggests the dv2500 or dv6500 will ever have anything but GMA X3100. It's only mentioned in the manuals for the dv9500. The best indication I have is http://www.nvidia.com/object/geforce_m_series.html where they quote the dv2000. Would be really stupid of HP not to release them, unless they're realizing it's a battery/heat problem. It's actually very annoying of them not to let their customers know.

On another note, from the first review I've seen of Santa Rosa, it seems like a turkey that's not even being implemented properly yet in notebooks. CNet's dv6500t review model only lasted for 2hrs 40mins on a 6 cell with 667MHz memory. HP know they have battery life issues, so why don't they just ship the higher capacity model ? 802.11n isn't in some models, or the new flash memory features. The 3dmark03 for the X3100 seems to be about 1700 (just over half the speed of an nVidia 7200).

Yet another complaint, HP in the UK sucks. Can't configure anything.

 

Another dv2500 review:
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1895,2126887,00.asp

 

See the post two posts above yours by Xstation; he quotes HP themselves as a source that the 8400M will be an option in the dv2500. I've already seen other sources saying the dv6500 will feature it too.

 

and 2h40 in a 6 cell batery is not bad at all.

 

Hmm, so they are actually going to do this? Amazing. There is hope for HP yet.

 

Great, seems like they'll get around to adding the 8400M some time, though I really need one right now.

About battery life, it just seems like it hasn't increased at all with Santa Rosa. 2hr40mins is bordering on unusable for my needs, so I guess its 12 cell time. I'm used to a good 4hrs15mins I used to get off my old Dell Precision.

I have a feeling Acer's 5920 will be on the streets with nvidia first in the UK though, but the dv2000s are probavly the nicest design I've ever seen.

 

Ok.. Can't we order a laptop now and if the nvidia comes out in 30 days return it and order a that?? We do have 30 days to return the laptop right?

 

It's 21 days.

 

I spoke with an online chat representative named "Merlin" and he didn't have a clue when the NVIDIA gpus were going to become available for the dv2500t series notebooks. I love how these chat people give vague answers, almost defeating the point of spending the time to chat:

5/10/2007 03:58:27PM gautam: "when will GeForce 8M series GPUs arrive for dv2500t series?"
05/10/2007 03:59:41PM Agent (Merlin): "I am sorry we do not have any updates about the 8M series GPUs for dv2500t series."
05/10/2007 03:59:57PM gautam: "Do you not have a date or approximate date for its release?"
05/10/2007 04:01:13PM Agent (Merlin): " Regretfully, we are not aware of when the inventory will be replenished until shortly before the information is available to our customers, and as such, cannot provide an exact date. I recommend checking back regularly for product arrival."

 

I'm not surprised. I almost think that they have no source of information at all from HP brass, other than what is on the website. If it contains an error, they give the same erroneous info as if it's gospel (even when gibberish).

 

Your theory is correct..

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Hello is the option for a 320GB 7200 RPM Hard Drive on the dv6500t for real?

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We do have an option for choosing 320GB 7200 rpm SATA hard drive in the HP Pavilion dv6500t Notebook.

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This model is the latest addition to our store.

 

What I thought was people were about to faint when they heard the 200GB announcement but the 300GB...

 

Sony's new FZ is very nice with the blue-ray option, but with a 1280X800 LCD and only 64MB of dedicated VRAM on the 8400M GT, I cannot buy such a laptop. Dang, they could have had a sale too.

 

I think the 2h40 was a test for the dv9500, which is a desktop replacement, 17 inches. So 2h40 for that was impressive. I"m sure mainsteams will get much more.

I don't have the Dells memorized or anything but isn't the Dell precision a desktop?

 

no, its a business class laptop with the main aim of serving as a workstation
along with workstation type graphic cards and not the the consumer main stream models but roughly equivalent to performance cards

 

The 2hrs40mins battery life is actually for a dv6500t from this review:
http://laptopmag.com/Review/HP-Pavilion-dv6500t-Entertainment-Notebook-PC.htm
For a dv2500t 'run down test' this review quotes 2hrs16mins:
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1895,2126887,00.asp
http://www.pcmag.com/image_popup/0,1871,iid=173958,00.asp

Another DVD run down test quotes 2hrs50mins for dv2500t:
http://computershopper.com/reviews/hp_pavilion_dv2500t_laptop_review

But this review is quoting 4hrs for the dv6500t:
http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,131629-c,notebooks/article.html

Depends on the settings and the test, but that's an odd range of results. If 4hrs was achievable in any way, I'd be happy.

My old machine was a Precision M60, quite thin and light for what it was, with an nVidia Quadro. Looked vaguely art deco too.

 

who said that ?

 

That's what I was told by Sony when I called to order one. After some thinking that it didn't sound right, I called back and they said 256MB after actually checking with the "product specialist", so they were wrong about the 64MB. Sorry for the mis-leading!

 

Ok, noob question here.

Just to clarify, the Santa Rosa is the chipset, not the actual CPU am I right?

So if one ones to purchase say, the dv6000t now after the santa roas has been released, it is not possible for the 6000t to be shipped with the new chipset. One would have to get the 6500?

Again Probably a noob question but thanks anyways.

 

Santa Rosa is the platform meaning the (new socket and clock) CPU + Chipset + Wireless (these three parts were always parts of the Centrino) and it's more for the Santa Rosa more info : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centrino#Santa_Rosa_platform_.282007.29

 

Personally, I'm not seeing a reason to buy the dv6500t over the dv2500t. The internal specs are pretty much identical and the dv2500t is smaller, lighter, and has the same resolution screen as the dv6500t.

The dv6000t had a better discreet GPU option than the dv2000t; but it is rumored that both the dv6500t and dv2500t will have the Geforce 8400M in the near future. Is there any advantage to the dv6500t compared to the dv2500t?

 

I picked a 6500 over a 2500 because from my experience wide 15" screens are brighter and have better viewing angles than 14" screens.

 

Yeah it seems main diff is screen size, plus whatever other affects changing screen size might have. I personally am on the market for a 15.4" right now, hoping to see a good one with 8600M GT here soon, with higher than 1280X800 res.

 

15 gets heavy after awhile when u carry it around.. i might settle for a 14inch