UPDATED (WITH VIDEOS): ENVY 4 / ENVY 6 Now Available; ENVY 13 SPECTRE XT Announced

Indeed, for its time the HDX was magnificent.

 

Not to rein in on the gravey train. But I'm going to guess HP for business reasons won't accommodate every single design and aesthetic preference known to mankind.


HP's profits are pretty much depressed as it is. They're constantly building PC notebooks using a million different combinations of design, styling, form factors, parts, etc just to make everyone happy. All the investments required to do all that is depressing their profit margins which PROBABLY induced some in the management to consider selling the PC line. Being the largest PC maker is meaningless if you're not making money on your business.


That in mind, I personally think they'd be better off offering the Envy at the 13/15/17 inch segments instead of 12/13/14/15/16/17/18/19 inch segments and keeping allowing for very little design variation among the Envy line. This might actually allow them to make money off the Envy line which is supposed to be the luxury line with higher margins in the first place!


Imagine having to hire extra engineers and designers just to accommodate designs for a small segment HP customers who would defect to another PC company just because it didn't have the HDX design.

 

Agreed zeth!

And they should never forget there are a lot of folks who want a thin, portable laptop that runs games at 1080p but does not look like a giant plastic spaceship.

 

Agreed. Stylishness and performance are NOT mutually exclusive. HP from a pure business standpoint could save money by still offering customization, but keeping fewer models in its lineup. Gamers who want just performance can buy an Asus and let Asus chase after razor-slim profit margins on $800 machines that are pretty much plastic 10lb bricks. The rest of us who need the portability will gladly pay $200-300 more for slightly less performance for thin/light with nice displays. This notebook would cater to both professionals who need performance, heavy gamers, and even average joes like me who light game and watch movies at high-res (I'm no videophile, but I get annoyed when my vids aren't 720p or higher).

 

I believe HP should focus on style and design and decent performance to keep prices low but offer the option for better performance

 

I just looked up the HDX and yes they were sexy for their time. I wish HP will do something with the lid of the envy's I dont really like the solid color lid

 

That's the one thing I'm hoping for!

 

Thunderbolt. 14" 1080 Radiance. SSD. No Optical Drive. 35w Ivy i7. GTX 650.

<3

 

lol better gpu ftw

that would be one sexy machine lets just hope no screen problems. fresh design and not gimped ddr5 650m

 

I really hope HP doesn't one day decide to abandon us gamers in favor of producing only low-performance ultrabooks and heavy gaming brick machines. I'm sure there are alternatives out there, but I haven't taken a shine to them. Dell aped Apple's Macbook Pro with the XPS 15z but didn't even bother to put in a good GPU. If I wanted to go with Dell, I'd have to settle for a heavy gaming brick. As someone who expects to have to carry his notebook a lot of places and use it for moderate gaming, that's not an option.

 

im in the same exact situation as you. maybe in the future ill buy dem hefty gaming laptops but for right now I dont have that luxury :|

 

Here's hoping for a true gaming laptop, with a voodoo envy/hdx look.

 

If your guess is right, that would be a great size (in my opinion).

 

yes it would be a great size.... if theygive good hardware :|

 

Page not found :O

 

Here you go guys! This is official, but I cannot link you to it because it's an internal document that you have to login to see.... as sketchy as this may seem.


HP ENVY 6-1001tx Notebook PC Product Specifications
Hardware

Software

Hardware
Product Name 6-1001tx
US Product Number B4P09PA
Microprocessor 1.6 GHz Intel Core i5-2467M
Microprocessor Cache 3 MB L3 Cache
Memory 8 GB 1333 MHz DDR3
Memory Max 2 user accessible slots
Supports up to 8 GB DDR3
Video Graphics AMD Radeon HD 7670M
Video Memory 2 GB DDR3 dedicated
Hard Drive 500GB (5400rpm) with Intel Smart Response and Rapid Start Technology with a 32GB SLC mSATA
Display 15.6" diagonal HD BrightView LED-backlit Display (1366 x 768)
Network Card Integrated 10/100/1000 Gigabit Ethernet LAN (RJ-45 connector)
Wireless Connectivity 802.11b/g/n WLAN
Bluetooth
Sound Beats Audio with 2 speakers and audio playback
PC Card Slots Multi-Format Digital Media Card Reader for Secure Digital cards & Multimedia cards

External Ports 2 USB 3.0
1 USB 2.0
1 HDMI
1 RJ-45 / Ethernet
2 Headphone-out
1 Microphone-in

Dimensions 37.4 x 25.28 x 1.98 cm
Weight Starting at 2.15 kg
Security Kensington MicroSaver lock slot
Power 4-cell Li-Ion polymer

ID Mech Description HP TrueVision HD Webcam with integrated dual array digital microphone

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Software
Operating System:
Genuine Windows 7 Home Premium (64-bit)

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So it means that Envy 6 is worse than existing Envy 15? What's the point of even making it? Highly doubt it's true.

 

Some more exciting notes:

There is an entry for "HP Envy 4-1000 Notebook PC Series" and also "HP Envy17-4000 Notebook PC Series" , but unfortunately there is no specs doc posted for either of those yet. But, I found some pictures in the getting started doc was under the Envy 4 and 6. Don't know if this is just a reused doc or pics of the new laptops...







Not sure if the pictures are showing up right so here is the links:
http://imgur.com/tBWhj
http://imgur.com/qPQju
http://imgur.com/2UfsD

 

dont tell me hp is going to bring a budget envy liineup :| I really hope those are like the lowest specs and that you can upgrade it to i7 and 7750m or something like that otherwise a dissappointment. Also from the images, doesnt it look like the previous model? (not the late 2011 new one) hmm I wonder what they are planning

 

i5-2... & radeon 76.. means NO ivy bridge and NO 22nm radeon.

> budget envy line (=fail)

hope to see some high-end specs on the envy 17-4000, preferably 3d, with NO LESS than an i7 IB quad & (not underclocked) radeon 7 800m and thunderbolt.
anything less would be a fail as well.
and please bring back the nice flowery top cover design from the 1000 & 2000 series instead of the boring one from the 3000 series, at least as an option for guys like me who like girlie-like designs although not being one.

2560x1600 res would also be a good idea on the 17'', if copying macbook pros is the way to go for envies. it would be even better if it was not copied from mbp.i

 

i agree iliked everything about the new envy's but the lid... it seems too boring. they should let us put some smexy designs on it. and both the 15 and 17 in should have atleast the 35w quadcore i7 and the 7730m(atleast) in the 15 and 78xxm in 17 in


budget envys is not the way to go. its better to improve the other notebook lines like the g and dv series to look more like envys not the other way around

 

ZuneNinja!, thanks for posting. Please keep us posted if you learn any new info.

 

remember guys this might be the most basic model they have....

The envy 15 comes with a base cpu of i5- 2450m, 6 gb 768p screen.

However, I dont understand how it only supports 8 gb (no clue on this), why it ahs the 7470m as an option (maybe the base card...), good hybrid drive but why 5200 rpm (maybe also base hybride drive), it weighs less, the bettery is 4 cells (maybe its more efficient)?


this doesnt have to be all bad

 

Can you show an example of what you mean by "smexy designs"?

So far, I haven't seen any laptop lids with flourishes that look good.

Including the pattern on my own 2nd gen Envy 15 lid - I would have preferred something more minimalist and simple.

So disappointing!

7670m? This is far slower than the 5830m on my three year old 2nd gen Envy 15, which was just about at the lowest edge of GPUs that can run most games at 1080p.

And 1366x768 display - does this mean you have now decided to completely abandon the gamer market? (You know, there are quite a few of us who want a decent, portable laptop that does not look like a plastic alien spaceship.)

EDIT: At any rate, thanks very much for sharing the info!

 

hmm i saw the old envy's when they first came out and i thought they looked pretty good but that was a young teen me idk if they will still look good now, its been a long time. is the current lid made of aluminum? idk i liked the look asus went for on N56 lid (from what I see in pics and videos) : New N Series - YouTube

also the lid on this : GIGABYTE - Notebook / Slate & Device - Notebook & Netbook - M series - M2432

Idk from my friends current envy it just looks too plain and for me it doesnt match up with the rest of the body...

dont rule hp out on the screen and card just yet

 

After looking at the leaked specs I feel like HP is trying to make a budget friendly laptop just thin enough to be marketed as an "ultrabook." I'm forecasting an $800-900 price range.

I hope, I really, really hope that they offer Envies that are upgrade able to newer parts and that the specs we're seeing are for the pre made models that are meant to be cheap.

 

hp will really be going the wrong way if they go the budget envy route.....

 

Thanks ZuneNinja for the specs, the Envy 6 is a 15.6" Ultrabook and the Envy 4 must be a 14" Ultrabook. The 1.6 GHz Intel Core i5-2467M is a processor used across many Ultrabooks on the market now, it's an Intel ULV processor specifically made for the thin form factor and long battery life. Interesting it has a Hybrid drive approach with the 500GB HD and 32GB mSATA SSD.

 

even if it is an ultrabook, they can still put a better card in it...

 

So, do you think they will launch an Envy 4, Envy 6 as well as the Envy 15 and Envy 17 models with faster GPUs?

Or is this the final death knell for the slim, portable, 1080p gaming-capable Envy 15?

 

This new info is depressing...i'm considering just buying the SB Envy 15 now...

 

The Envy 6 as listed sounds like a 15" ultrabook until you get to the GPU, which should probably put off too much heat for the chassis to be slimmed down to really "ultra" thinness. If it were a new-generation part with better power efficiency, I'd believe it, but it's just a rebadge of an older part that goes in notebooks over an inch thick.

I'm gonna guess that it's a 15" maxi-ultrabook and that it will have heat issues when gaming. We may be pleasantly surprised by how well it handles the GPU, but it's gonna be a hard sell when an old-generation mid-level AMD GPU is competing against 640Ms, 650Ms, and maybe even 660Ms in other, smaller ultrabooks.

 

lol ultrabooks arent gonna have the 660ms.. and i think only very few will have 650ms also. its gonna come down to 640m. however the 640m (especially with ddr5) is equiv to gtx 460m which is much better than the 7470m or even the 6770m. HP has to step it up

 

Is there any info about the dimensions of the Envy 6?

The 1st and 2nd gen Envy 15s were already pretty slim at 1.05", even thinner than the Envy 14.

 

from the leaked specs lol

how does this compare to the regular 2012 envy 15? Ik its about a pound lighter

 

Oh wow, that is pretty slim indeed, 0.78 inches (1.98cm)

The 2012 envy 15 is bulkier than the 2009 model, probably due in part to the added optical drive. (1.11" vs. 1.05")

 

haha i guessed i should have looked at the dimensions b4 making any judgments but still. it has to have a better card

 

I suppose the Envy 6 is intended to compete with models like the MacBook Air.

Hopefully there will be something like the Envy 15 with AMD 7750, 1080p display and Ivy Bridge quad core on the horizon as well.

 

For anyone who's keeping count, including speculative(*) Envy machines, we're at a 13" ultrabook*, a 14" ultrabook, another 14" ultrabook*, a 15" maxi-ultrabook*, a 15" performance machine, a 17" performance machine, and a 17" 3D performance machine.

That's eight Envy machines, with four different offerings crowded into the 14"-15" range. I for one hope that some of these new ones are either replacements or destined for the cutting floor.

My ideal Envy line would be something like:

Envy 13 Spectre - 1600x900 Radiance display ultrabook - like the 14 Spectre but cut down in size and price.
Envy 14 or 4 - 14.5" 1600x900 Radiance display, ultra-narrow bezel, 1" thick, 640M or better power-efficient GPU (is AMD's 7000 series going to have any competitor to the 640M, 650M, or 660M for size, performance, and power/heat?).
Envy 15 or 6 - Same as current Envy 15 with a better screen (i.e. no color issues), 7750M/7770M, and Ivy Bridge update. Dropping the ODD for thinner and lighter would be gravy and would justify the name change to Envy 6.
Envy 17/17 3D - Same as now with Ivy Bridge and 7850M/7870M GPU.

With a lineup like that, in which every step down in size offers distinctly improved portability while maintaining high-end performance for its size and every step up offers distinct performance improvements, the distinct models would all be justified and there wouldn't be too much pirating of their own sales. Eight models, with four distinct models in the 14-15" range, would ultimately cost HP a lot of money, since their models would be competing against one another hard out.

 

my lineup is like urs but a few adjustments. if the 13in gets 900p, then the 14 in should prolly get 1080p. no dedicated gpu on 13in and 640m/650m or radeon equiv on 14 in. on the 15/6 it should be slimmer, weigh less but have 660m or radeon equivelant atleast (reduce bulk by removing odd liek u said). and 17 like u said

 

Times like right now I'm just hoping that HP is keeping their eye on this sight... Looking at what the people say and want... Like what would be a good marketing move on their part with lineups and whatnot... *Sigh*

 

Looks like the Envy 6-1001tx specs meet the ultrabook requirements. Given the thinness of it, I wouldn't expect to see any 35w CPU's in it.
I suppose the Envy 6/4 will be cheaper alternatives to the steeply priced Spectre 14 and not a replacement for the Envy 15. Given Intel's aggressive push for ultrabooks and ULV processors, it's not too surprising to see HP launch more ultrabooks. It seems reasonable to have high and mid priced options for ultrabooks.

I think we may not see a true Envy 15/17 refresh for some time, though it would be great to see it on April 23. HP hasn't announced any use of the Ivy Bridge CPU's, so they might be waiting for the full release in early June. It also would be strange to refresh or replace a laptop that's been out for less than 6 months. Hopefully we'll get a refresh when AMD launches HD 77XXm and when Ivy Bridge CPU's are more readily available.

As a side note, is there any information about the HD 77XXm release?

 

HP give me a Envy 17 with a 2560x1600/1440 Matte Screen with Ivy Bridge/Trinity (I will take the lower performing CPU for better graphics built in with crossfire capability and more battery life) Quad Core, a 7700m series discrete GPU (I would not be opposed to 7800m series, but with a Trinity APU crossfired with 7700m, they will perform as well as 7800m series card at least), msata SSD with SATA3 speeds (current ones are SATA2 speeds) and an option for slot load blu-ray burner (Within reason, I will pay the extra for this). I would throw my wallet at HP for a laptop like this. Maybe offer a bigger battery also, more weight < more battery life, for me.

The Envy 4 and 6 look to be solid ultrabooks, too bad ultrabooks don't fit my need, though they are very nice.

 

I'd be pessimistic. Rumors are showing that not only will the MBP ditch the ODD for good and slim down, they'll be using super-high resolution screens that make 1080p screens look obsolete.


I don't expect HP to anticipate any of these developments given their track record.

 

There's a reason why MBP is $1000 more than Envy -- and that's just fine by me.

 

well for ultrabooks they can do the stuff said up there. for the regular line they can also do it to put better cooling gpu and they can put higher res screens in also :S tbh if it came out to be just less than mbp I would still get it

 

yo justin do u want to combine all the coming soon threads?

 

The idea of high-res displays is wonderful, but suggesting that manufacturers just start tossing them in notebooks is a bit naive. There aren't enough manufacturers capable of producing enough high-DPI displays for them to be widely available just yet. If OEMs take it seriously and push their suppliers hard, we could have retina displays become standard in 4-5 years probably, but just because Apple got a retina display on the iPad 3 and may be doing the same on the MBP line later this year doesn't mean HP can start doing so on the same timeframe. Apple has a lot of clout with equipment manufacturers and they pay some very talented people a lot of money to make sure that they keep ahead of the game on stuff like this, so don't be surprised if it's another year or two before Envys start getting displays above 1920x1080.

 

There are only two coming soon threads in the ENVY section.

Update: HP links from first post removed. HP has removed these notebooks from their site.

 

haha there is this one, the envy 13 spectre, and the upcoming envy 15 ivy bridge and 7750m by ykong1 or w.e his name is