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    UPDATED (WITH VIDEOS): ENVY 4 / ENVY 6 Now Available; ENVY 13 SPECTRE XT Announced

    Discussion in 'HP' started by justinkw1, Apr 12, 2012.

  1. moviemarketing

    moviemarketing Milk Drinker

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    These are all completely different laptop models. Merging all the threads would just lead to confusion IMHO.
     
  2. PaKii94

    PaKii94 Notebook Virtuoso

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    ehh true lol. so any new info?
     
  3. Fat Dragon

    Fat Dragon Just this guy, you know?

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    If they removed the product pages, it's possible that the Envy 4 and Envy 6 are vaporware...
     
  4. PaKii94

    PaKii94 Notebook Virtuoso

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    whats vaporware lol
     
  5. Pobthiti

    Pobthiti Notebook Consultant

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    Hmm could be... I'd rather they refresh the 15,17 series they have... And fix the screen and I'll be happy... No need for something totally different... Not for me anyway.
     
  6. yknyong1

    yknyong1 Radiance with Radeon

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    Vaporised... gone... :(
     
  7. PaKii94

    PaKii94 Notebook Virtuoso

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    ohh noooo lol. but yeah i figured it out :p lets just c what happens. i am not really interested in the ultrabook versions tho unless they put a good card in wich prolly wouldnt happem
     
  8. pjd2011

    pjd2011 Notebook Consultant

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    I know I post this envy (Get it??) time but please, please give us Thunderbolt HP!

    I love high res displays and will be envious of the new Macbooks but if I at least have a Thunderbolt port I can come up with an eGPU solution..
     
  9. eenxsoon

    eenxsoon Notebook Geek

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    ACSchott Notebook Enthusiast

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    Do you all really believe this? Maybe I'm just being devil's advocate here, but what other evidence (besides what ZuneNinja put up) is there for the specs on these laptops? I mean seriously.... no links or even screen shots of his desktop? Just a copy/paste? -___- I'm not totally dismissing the post, but I seriously doubt HP would release any type of Envy with those specs. Why put "budget" ultrabooks into a premium line? Just think about that for a second... I don't buy it.

    This is pure speculation on my part, but I hope the new notebooks are equipped with IB, dedicated graphics, radiance screens, Envy styling, etc. That seems more realistic. On the other hand, if you totally disagree with me, then please prove me wrong! :p
     
  11. Fat Dragon

    Fat Dragon Just this guy, you know?

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  12. PaKii94

    PaKii94 Notebook Virtuoso

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    Google Translate

    in this link it says the 7700m series is for ultrathins(ultrabooks) so there might be a chance it has this :cool:
     
  13. ZuneNinja!

    ZuneNinja! Notebook Enthusiast

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    Guys, I wish I were lying. I want a envy 17 with a 7970m in it too. Here I'll even throw up the side-view .

    imgur: the simple image sharer

    imgur: the simple image sharer


    If you can login to this site: HP Channel Services Network , I can show you the document with the screenshots. Unfortunately, it seems HP has pulled that spec sheet after the leak. I'm not an HP Employee, I just have access to the partner site and searched it right after the ivy bridge announcements.
     
  14. ZuneNinja!

    ZuneNinja! Notebook Enthusiast

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  16. tommy_o_liu

    tommy_o_liu Notebook Guru

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    HP Envy?? - ???????

    HP Envy 4 released in China and Pre-order now.

    It seems like the leaked pictures are the Envy 4. Let me translate some spec for you guys.

    Sandy Bridge Low Voltage CPU (i5-2467M, i3-2367M)
    14" HD LED (1366*768)
    HM77
    1.75kg, dimension 34*23.58*1.98cm
    2 ram slots
    normal 2.5" HDD
    AMD Radeon HD 7670M 2GB DDR3(it is actually the one in HP Envy 15 claimed 7690M but down clocked, according to Notebookcheck it is 7670M)
    2 USB 3.0, 1 USB 2.0, 1 HDMI
    2 Beats Audio, HP Triple Bass
    4-cell Battery

    it seems like there are 2 colors.

    and i think HP will upgrade the spec to Ivy Bridge plus 7700M series on June, just like its style...
     
  17. PaKii94

    PaKii94 Notebook Virtuoso

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    i tried to rep both but could only do tommy cause it said to spread more around then it said wait 24 hrs :( ill get u tmrw zune
     
  18. PaKii94

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    ya the requirements go right along with the 77xxm cards. the regular envys need stronger ones :eek:
     
  19. ACSchott

    ACSchott Notebook Enthusiast

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    I don't doubt that the information you're providing is consistent with an internal document you found, ZuneNinja. But what is the validity of that document, or the validity of some Chinese site, etc? Until I see an official announcement from HP (not just supposed "leaks"), I'm taking all of this with a grain of salt; especially considering that the specs don't make sense for the Envy line.
     
  20. PaKii94

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    this could be bare minimum specs
     
  21. FM Bomb Saw

    FM Bomb Saw Notebook Consultant

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    Well, that Chinese site actually is HP...
     
  22. ACSchott

    ACSchott Notebook Enthusiast

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    Are you sure about that? The site looks pretty fake to me.
     
  23. ACSchott

    ACSchott Notebook Enthusiast

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    The true problem isn't with the specs themselves. The problem is that the "specs" we've seen are coming from questionable documents and sketchy sites. Neither HP nor any other reputable source has officially announced the specs (or the laptops themselves, for that matter), so I'm just telling you guys to take this all with a grain of salt.
     
  24. PaKii94

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    that chinese site is an hp site. it looks fake if you translate it. also thats how the old version of the US site looks (i think or maybe its buisness site i forget) and there are alot of similarities. also I dont think a fake site would go to so much trouble for each of the pages :p

    and the document also looks very much like hp documentation i have seen for other models that have been released but i realize its easy to fake. however, i dont think people would go through that much trouble to troll a speculation thread -__-. I think Zune is just trying to help us lol. maybe the document is wrong maybe its not finallize who knows
     
  25. SInC

    SInC Notebook Consultant

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    Yeah, it's legit.
    It's also not strange that HP would launch a second ultrabook line (in addition to the Envy Spectre) with the Envy name. Intel has been pushing the Ultrabook pretty aggressively, and it's no surprise that HP would be part of it. Dell, for example, recently added the ultrabook XPS 13 to their traditionally high performance XPS line.
    The Spectre is priced pretty steeply, so having the Envy 4/6 as a mid-priced alternative seems reasonable.
     
  26. Eclipse251

    Eclipse251 Notebook Guru

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    So would this mean that the envy 4/6 would actually be better than the Spectre, since unlike the Spectre, these new ultrabooks have dedicated graphics?
     
  27. PaKii94

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    who knows? the spectre might get them
     
  28. Fat Dragon

    Fat Dragon Just this guy, you know?

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    This makes sense now.

    The Envy series has never been available in China. When I was shopping for my Envy 14, I found one Envy 13 that had been imported being offered at a store - moderate specs, over $3000 if you calculated the exchange.

    Now China (and other markets, with the "Sleekbook" name I'm gonna guess India as well - "Sleekbook" screams Indian English) can get the Envy name on what will probably be a nice-looking mid-range ultrabook within their typical price range for a decent notebook. I wouldn't be surprised if these are built more on a DV series quality level and never available in countries where the other Envys are available, since they seem to be primarily a way of introducing the Envy name to markets that don't like to spend as much on laptops.
     
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  30. wild05kid05

    wild05kid05 Cook Free or Die

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    not Envy 15 replacement. don't worry. The rest was predictable except for HP's foolish direction by staying back with SB
     
  31. Fat Dragon

    Fat Dragon Just this guy, you know?

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    First of all, that Verge article was written by somebody who got all his information from the thread on this site - there's nothing new, just the appearance of legitimacy because it's on a well-known blog.

    Until proven otherwise, I'm standing by what I wrote in the other thread: the Envy 4 and 6 lines are, in all likelihood, a cheaper alternative for introducing the Envy name into markets where premium prices are potential deal-breakers for the current Envy lineup. The up-to-$1,000 price point on the Envy 4 in China sounds like it's comparable to a lowball price for an Envy 15 in the US, but they don't offer coupon deals in China like they do in the US (which are necessary to get that kind of price on an Envy 15), and prices here are typically at least 30% higher for laptops, so an Envy 15 would probably cost at least 10,000 RMB in its base configuration here, almost double the 5,499 RMB buy-in to Envy ownership with the base Envy 4's here.

    Introducing the Envy 4 and Envy 6 lines in the US would muddle the Envy name too much, and if we're being honest, the pictures we're seeing so far look fairly mundane - part of the Envy line's appeal where it's been released so far is that the notebooks are striking without being gaudy. If they're introducing a basic Envy line in countries like China, though, they can build up the name so that in a year or two people will be willing to buy the prettier, more expensive Envy lineup on name recognition, kind've like offering Macbooks for a couple years and then capitalizing on their popularity by offering Macbook Pros.
     
  32. ACSchott

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    Good points Fat Dragon! I'm glad to see someone else not taking ZuneNinja's and other speculative posts too seriously. I mean come on guys, let's start thinking logically! No matter what though, the true answer to all of this will come when HP makes an official announcement (or not).
     
  33. wetwillycf

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    THANK YOU FOR SPEAKING WITH REASON. I've kept forgetting to make a post like this the last couple days but definitely been meaning to.
     
  34. ZuneNinja!

    ZuneNinja! Notebook Enthusiast

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    Understandable. This is pretty much a rumor/hope&wait thread anyways. After seeing all I have seen, my guess is that there will be a slightly refreshed envy 17 (no clue what will be final) and also an ultrabook series with the Envy 4 and 6.
     
  35. ZuneNinja!

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    To be fair, my posts really aren't speculation. And where i'm speculating, I clearly say "My Guess" or "I hope", just the same as everyone else. I'm just providing info that is actually official from hp, which helps clue us all in on what we will see from them. The last screenshot literally says HP CHANNEL SERVICES NETWORK at the top. I can't be the only one on this forum with access to it. Anybody that is in the IT field that works on ANY hp equipment should have access.
     
  36. PaKii94

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    lol is there any info on there about the upgraded envy 15? thats the one i care the most about
     
  37. Genoskia

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    I for one, appreciate the time you spent posting the information you have found seeing as no one else probably would of...
    No one but the company who is going to be releasing the product actually knows whats going to happen as they can make last minute changes or whatever they want (usually not often). With that being said, not many know 100% whats going to happpen and the best we can do is speculate off the tid bits of information we recieve which a lot of the time isnt reliable.

    Thanks for posting your opinions/speculation and information you find here for all of us to enjoy/speculate off of. +1 rep
     
  38. PaKii94

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    i dont remmeber if i repped u b4 so i just did it :p
     
  39. tommy_o_liu

    tommy_o_liu Notebook Guru

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    The Envy 4 will have 2 colors: Silver with black bottom, and black with RED bottom! Looking forward to the Black with Red!
     
  40. tommy_o_liu

    tommy_o_liu Notebook Guru

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    People who always challenging the validity of those source, why don't you contribute something rather than typing your disagreement?
     
  41. wetwillycf

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    Like what? Not hating, just trying to calm down the people freaking out about the lower specs of this machine.
     
  42. ZuneNinja!

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    Thanks guys, I appreciate it. I'm just an excited nerd like the rest of you, hoping for good specs! I was happy that I was able to provide some info.
    I'm still checking daily for new info on the partner site.
     
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    To me these specs look like a slimmed but bigger m11x. Low voltage proc + lower mid range GPU in a lighter package. ~1lbs less for the size.

    If you think about it this way instead of the full cpu replacements, it does make sense. I'm looking for a light notebook and was originally thinking about a samsung series 9 but an envy 4 at < 4lbs with good consumer gfx is also a good type of machine.

    The only other machine comparable was T420s with full proc and slow workstation gpu and the screen really sucked on that machine.
     
  44. Karamazovmm

    Karamazovmm Overthinking? Always!

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    that envy 4 should be a good ultrabook, people are forgeting that its aimed at a different market than the 15 or 17 envy
     
  45. justinkw1

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    News! HP has just posted some driver documentation, and it is now confirmed that the ENVY 4 and ENVY 6 notebooks will have the following:


     
  46. PaKii94

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    does this kinda put forth the idea that we will get it in the US also, unlike what other people were saying that it was gonna stay in asian market?
     
  47. Fat Dragon

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    That's purely speculation on my part. I can understand the reason behind three separate styles of Envy laptop - maximum sexy ultrabooks, performance ultrabooks, and high-performance premium notebooks, I just don't think there's enough differentiation for that many models to be successful, which means greater investment for diminishing benefits.
     
  48. CompUG

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    So what exactly are the specs for both Envy?
     
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    this is all based on speculation from this thread actually, no new info. also these are ultrabooks which are going to be on the lowerend. they will have high performance envys and premium ultrabooks (spectre)
     
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