nVidia Class Action Fairness Hearing is Tomorrow - Almost time to make a claim!

Did you even read what you quoted me on? One phone number(milberg), one letter(milberg/Mr Westerman)- If you mean by you spend all your free time posting negative responses to people on this thread that are trying to help others by providing information that is in my opinion helpful and relevant than I agree with you- And good luck finding the NVIDIA settlement direct phone line/email/address where everything said is legally documented and noted..

 

Whoa, whoa, whooooooa, easy there cowboy. I didn't intend that at all. The only reason I even quoted was because I agreed with your request that people call and write. I meant no criticism within my statement, but I see how it could've been taken that way, and I apologize. It was caused by my haste in getting a quick post out. I've not made ANY negative statements towards anyone else here and I certainly didn't mean them in this case.

All I meant was that there have been literally dozens of #'s and addresses posted throughout this thread and I was legitimately wondering, for myself and others like me who might not be motivated to hit up every outlet, if anyone had it on good authority as to which of these are more legally significant and direct than others. Relevant to things like: who was the lawyer who said only 50 members had complained, and how do we remedy that? Do we contact him, or a primary source related to the case at large.

I know nothing about legal hierarchy, I only know that calling the settlement # is like complaining to the cashier that their fast-food joint has bad fries, and is likely a waste of time except on the off chance that they've been asked to document complaints, which it doesn't sound like they have.

I genuinely appreciate your research, and didn't intend to sound self-important, smarmy, or snarky.

 

can someone repost the information for calling/writing milberg and the other main parties? i will include them in my signature to help spread the information. (yes. i am too lazy to look for them through this thread right now)

 

Hey you TX people! Replace your motherboard yourself and put in a repair claim for the cash!
Buy.com - HP 441097-001 Hp System I/O Board
I own a DV9420US 17" notebook and replaced my motherboard last weekend and it is working fine again! Not giving them a $1200 notebook for a $200 kids toy! So, I fixed mine for approx. $250 in parts and my labor and will put in a repair claim.

 

Depending on the format you use, you might run out of space. It may fit if you put everything on a single line. Here are the limitations on signature space:

http://forum.notebookreview.com/site-suggestions-help-announcements/273261-new-signature-rules.html

 

If you call only One number call this one it is Westermans office in Los Angeles: remember the time difference!!
1-213-617-1200

ask to speak with someone about the nvidia settlement.You will probably speak to an intern If you don't like the answers ask to speak to an attorney!!

If you write a letter send it here addressed to Jeff Westerman RE: Nvidia

Jeff S Westerman
RE: Nvidia
One California Plaza
300 South Grand Avenue, Suite 3900
Los Angeles, California 90071

If you want to send an email send it here:

[email protected]

Subject Line : Nvidia Gpu Litigation

Please try to be Clear Concise and on Point. Be Professional
No swearing and Name Calling, Explain the Pros of your Computer and the Cons of the replacements.

 

That's a great idea, until the new part (also made from the same defective components) craps out in a few months. Then there will be no place to file a claim and you will be back in the same boat you were in before. There's little to be gained by spending $250 on a computer this old and destined for repeat failure. Personally, I think you'd be better off putting the $250 toward the purchase of a good quality replacement computer.

If replacing the motherboard were a permanent solution, they would not be replacing entire machines. Repair is only a viable option for Dell and Apple customers, as their defective components can be replaced with updated parts that are not defective.

And, even if quality replacement parts were available, I'm willing to bet there are a lot of HP owners that would be too scared to attempt this. Some folks are so non-mechanically inclined they would break something in the process... guaranteed. Think of all the computer users that use a kitchen knife as a screwdriver and slip-joint pliers as a wrench... not a good option for these folks.

 

HERE IS MY LETTER
---------------------------------------------------------

I have filed a replacement claim for my DV2214US which I have purchased in XXX XX for $850 at Circuit City.
You can find the specifications here
https://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc...ry&lc=en&dlc=en&cc=us&product=3347726&lang=en
I am having few concerns about the computer offered as a replacement.

The offered CQ56 models look like a good replacement for my computer but not exactly what I wanted or needed.
I purchased dv2214us as I wanted a fully loaded 14" laptop. It does have a dual core processor, Firewire port and Express card slot.
I use firewire port to get the videoes from my old camcorder. I use express slot to a tvtuner card to record some tv shows which I
like. Though it came with 1 GB of RAM, I upgraded to 2GB.

The CQ56 even has some upgrades due to technology developments as time passed by, But it is still a very low end laptop which doen't
have many things listed below and do not serve my purpose.
1. doesn't have Firewireport (one of main purpose)
2. Express card slot (one of main purpose)
3. Card Reader
4. Dual core processor
5. Is 15" which I do not like, but I can accept.

This replacement computer CQ56 do not address my basic needs. I do have one more laptop for other puposes. So I woould like to have
a computer with dual core, firewire port and an Express card slot. I am OK even if it is refurbished. As my computer died for second
time, there is no option for repair as I am sure it will die again.

 

This is very bad Idea. Getting a CQ56 is much better than repair at this point of time. What if if it craps out with in few days/weeks/months after settlement.

 

I've thought of doing that, since the tx1000 was quite easy to take apart and assemble, but after talking to my laptop tech friend, realized any solution is only a temp fix and in a few years the problem will be back.

 

I added the Info in my signature

If you call only One number call this one it is Westermans office in Los Angeles: remember the time difference!!
1-213-617-1200

ask to speak with someone about the nvidia settlement.You will probably speak to an intern If you don't like the answers ask to speak to an attorney!!

If you write a letter send it here addressed to Jeff Westerman RE: Nvidia

Jeff S Westerman
RE: Nvidia
One California Plaza
300 South Grand Avenue, Suite 3900
Los Angeles, California 90071

If you want to send an email send it here:

[email protected]

Subject Line : Nvidia Gpu Litigation

Please try to be Clear Concise and on Point. Be Professional
No swearing and Name Calling, Explain the Pros of your Computer and the Cons of the replacements.

 

Maybe, but I'm willing to take the chance. My DV9xxx had no problems for over 3 years and just crapped out in Dec. 2010 so I am hoping I get another 3 years out of it by replacing MB. I think the biggest problem hear is the heatsinking of the GPU. I noticed the new heatsink I purchased is all copper while the old one was copper heatpipe on top of aluminum. We will see. It was not that hard of job, just follow HP's manual. Really, I only spent $135 on new MB and $35 on heatsink but also purchased a used processor on EBay ($60) just in case but didn't end up needing it.

 

Good Heatsink along with Thermal paste may help. I do not know much here but heard Thermal paste can reduce over heating.

 

Mr. Fox, plese help us to put these info. on the first page (OP).

 

kscottbrown
Baltika09

can you please send me your email info to (without spaces):

n v i d i a 4 1 1 at gmail dot com?

please respond asap

 

Thank you for clearing that up. I plan on calling Mr Westerman's office today to see if there is a way that we can formally and legally express our discontent about the settlement-

 

Yes. I used Arctic Silver Thermal paste on the AMD processor and Gap Pad VO Soft pads on the GPU and heat spreader. The gap is too large between the GPU and Heat spreader to use the paste. This is where I think HP engineering went wrong! They should have designed a better heatsink to get the heat off the GPU and specified a higher temperature solder for attaching the GPU to its solder pads even though they also epoxyed the chip to the motherboard around the edge it can still move due to heat/cold and vibration.

 

Just checked the spec of the CQ56-115DX, and it does NOT come with a Webcam!

 

If you want a visual on just how slow the V140 is compared to ours, this graph shows it all:
PassMark CPU Lookup -- AMD V140

My TL-64 is 14th among these low/mid range CPU's but you'll have to scroll way down to find the V140 which is highlighted by a red outline.

 

Yup, I linked to that very chart in a previous post. I was looking for a corroborating bench mark at Tom's Hardware, but they apparently don't chart mobile CPU's anymore. Maybe they're just mixed in with the desktop processors and I just didn't look hard enough.

I heard about the V series last year, but thought was a line of more efficient/cooler but equally capable single cores with smaller architecture. I never realized until now just how underpowered they are. Even makes my little TL-50 look pretty good.

I can't believe anyone would offer a new model in 2010 with a processor that anemic, even in a netbook or mini.

 

If they want to give us a Compaq, how about this one -

Compaq WH249UT 14" LED Notebook - Athlon X2 QL-66 2.20 GHz - Black 1366 x 768 WXGA Display - 3 GB RAM - 320 GB HDD - DVD-Writer LightScribe - ATi Radeon HD 3200 - Webcam - Windows 7 Home Premium - 4 Hour Battery - WH249UT#ABA

 

Wow, even some Intel Atoms rank higher than the v140

 

There have been a few people here who hvae sent in their computers already. Did you have to sign/print any forms when you did this? This is kinda important.

 

No. Just bring the laptop and the replacement authorization form to FedEx.

 

That might be acceptable for those people that want a small notebook, but I use mine as a desktop replacement and will not settle for a laptop with a display less than 17". I love my 1680x1050 17" display on my dv9000.

 

ZERO check your PM"s

 

Well, my wife's dv6449us finally breathed it's last breath this past weekend. We were limping along and coaxing the video to work by doing a forced power discharge and leaving it turned on all the time. A couple of times hooking it up to an external monitor worked to wake it up. Nothing worked this time. I got it past the black screen one time after an hour of effort and it shut down while logging in. NICE!

So, I took it apart and pulling the CMOS battery, hoping that might jar it back to life. It didn't. While I had it disassembled, out of curiosity I pulled the heatsink and was amazed to find no thermal pad and no thermal paste on the CPU or GPU. It was direct bare metal-to-metal contact on both processors.

Now there's a major confidence booster in HP quality! This teardown was the first and only time it had ever been disassembled since the day it was purchased at Circuit City in 2007, so there's nowhere else to place the blame. NVIDIA sure as heck had nothing to do with that blunder. I'm wondering how many were shipped out like that.

Still waiting for the shipping instructions to arrive. Claim was successfully filed back on 01/11/2011. What gives?

 

OK folks, the first post on this thread now has links to posts with contact information provided by RedShirt and shasta7. I hope you find this beneficial.

I'm not sure why, but that comment made me laugh. Maybe that's better than crying? :laugh: +1 rep

The Intel Celeron 900 that some people were really torqued about also benchmarks better than the AMD V140. How does that commercial on television go? Wimpy, wimpy, wimpy? I'm curious if someone knows on good authority that the model of CQ56-115dx that is going to be provided is the model with the AMD V140 CPU, or is the assumption simply for the worst case scenario?

I was disappointed enough in how gutless the Turion64 CPU was, so this ought to be a real treat if it's the V140. :cry:

 

Couldn't sleep so I did some snooping.

I discovered a few days ago that the CQ56z was configurable for purchase with a choice of processors, the lowest of which is the V140. I couldn't find a manual for the Z to confirm that the 56 and 56z share the same motherboard, but I did find a manual for the CQ56 which also lists the following AMD processors:

● AMD V140 processor (2.3 GHz, 512-MB, L2 cache, 1066 MHz, 3.2 GT/s)—singlecore 25 W

● AMD Athlon II N350 processor (2.4 GHz, 1-MB L2 cache, 1066 MHz, 3.2 GT/s)—dual-core 35 W

● AMD Athlon II P340 processor (2.2 GHz, 1-MB L2 cache, 1066 MHz, 3.2 GT/s)—dual-core 25 W

● AMD Athlon II P320 processor (2.1 GHz, 1-MB L2 cache, 1066 MHz, 3.2 GT/s)—dual-core 25 W

They're all S1 socket.

Unfortunately I haven't yet found a benchmarks for all of theses processors yet - don't try to use the Athlon II's on the previous chart, they might be the more complex Desktop models (I know confusing ) BUT, the Passmark score for the N350 is 1289 which makes it faster than the older TL-68's that higher end older models may have had. That means that these Athlon II N3XX CPU's are much much more comparable to our old Turion 64 X2 dual cores.

There's absolutely no logical reason then that we couldn't be provided with an Athlon II dual core processor on the same platform.

The CQ56z even supports up to the N370, but that's no guarantee that it'd work in the CQ56 as well. ANY S1 socket CPU might work, but that doesn't necessarily mean that there's bios support.

 

The only problem with that, if I am understanding this correctly, is that even after replacing the motherboard, it will inevidably die again. From what I've read, at least with the TX1xxx's, it is not just the flaw in nVidia's GPU chip, but that along with a design flaw of HP's that causes the computer to run hot which degrades the GPU chipset...

Although I would rather another year with my TX1220us over any amount of time with either the Compaq or Asus, Milberg hasn't made me give up! I still fully intend on pursueing this as far as necessary to get what I paid for, what I was promised, and what I agreed to (i.e. "a replacement HP notebook of similar kind and value")!!! You know guys, I am just getting SO TIRED of being railroaded and screwed by big companies with lots of resources that get away with doing the WRONG thing just because they have more money than I do. Aside from this situation, it seems as though stuff like is is happening more and more, and the companies are getting more and more blatant in doing it!... Not to rant or anything, but THIS TIME I DO have an unarguably valid legal recource: petition the court to have the terms of the settlement enforced; pursue a small claims suit to have what was agreed to in the settlement fulfilled; etc.

Its on paper, in black and white folks! "A replacement HP notebook of similar kind and value" to my affected class computer ($1500+ HP TX1220us), and THATS WHAT I INTEND TO GET, ONE WAY OR ANOTHER!!!

 

Let me first say that I genuinely appreciate EVERYONE's efforts, as we are more effective in numbers. However, forgive me if this comes off as cynical (but due to how things have gone so far I feel my cynicism is justified), but I think it is fairly obvious at this point that Milberg DOES NOT CARE if we are happy with our replacements! I have read several people's posts describing conversations they had with people at Milberg, and a common thread was that Milberg always seemed to be motivated to get us to shut up and take what We get. Even if you think I may be exadurating or reading too far, I think we could all agree, at the VERY LEAST, It doesn't seem to bother Milberg (OUR COUNSEL) very much that so many Class Members are getting screwed; Rather, they seem to trying to expidite the screwing. They supposedly fought so hard to reach this settlement over the past 2-3 yrs., and then fiercly negotiated the settlement's wording for a great deal more time... Hmm... They extensively debated and negotiated the phrasing of the remedies provided in the settlement, and the specific result was "...a replacement HP notebook of similar kind and value." I guess I don't understand why they are ok with the wording in the settlement being completely ignored, especially when it took them $13 + million worth of lawyer time to hammer out!

That said, if you were going to contact only one person, I'm beginning to think that Judge Ware would be a more effective way to go. Maybe the Attorney General, but at least someone who would have some authority to make things happen. Bottom line is, by writing or contacting Milberg, we are essentially hoping that if we pester them enough, they will do the right thing. Well, we've been pestering them, times running out, and they are doing nothing but stalling! Is it safe to say by now that they aren't going to do the right thing UNTIL WE MAKE THEM!

 

I plan on filing a complaint with my state attorney general's office later today. On the form it asks who the complaint is against. Is this NVIDIA, Milberg, or Orrick (NVIDIA's counsel)?

Also, a few people have mentioned contacted Judge Ware. I am not a lawyer, so I'm not sure of the proper procedure to do this. I found the following two links, but I'm not sure who to e-mail or call:

• Contacting the Court | United States District Court, Northern District of California
• Ware, James [JW] | United States District Court, Northern District of California

 

I know. I do too! That is why I replaced my motherboard last weekend and now have my DV9420US working again! I hope it lasts 3+ years again!

Just giving recommendations as I have already decided not to take the replacement CQ56 or any other HP or HP/Compaq replacement because neither makes a replacement of similar kind to the DV9000 series. The closest replacements to my machine that I have seen are the Dell Vostro or Toshiba Qosmio. I too purchased mine for desktop replacement and also need the Firewire port and Expresscard slot. Don't get me wrong, I still support the cause here and hope we can change the settlement for the people who want a fair replacement. Just saw it and noticed it was slightly better than the CQ56-115DX.

 

I wrote to the court here is a copy of the reply. My point in contacting milburg is for the procrastinators, lurkers or newcomers to register their complaint as many of us have already. The only Invalid complaint is the one unregistered.

I too have sent a complaint to my attorney generals office and many many others the point here is to get the word out to all who will listen. Liken this to the squeaky wheel


Dear Correspondent,

On December 20, 2010, the Court issued Final Approval for The NVIDIA
GPU Litigation. (See Docket Item No. 319.)
As this objection has been filed subsequent to the Court’s issuance
of Final Approval, the Court finds that Class Member’s objections should be
properly directed to the Claims Administrator of the Settlement or to
counsel for the respective parties.
(1) The Claims Administrator can be contacted at:
Rosenthal & Company LLC
75 Rowland Way, Suite 250
Novato, CA 94945

(2) Counsel for the respective parties can be contacted at:


Class Counsel: Defendants:


Jeff S. Westerman Robert P. Varian
Milberg LLP Orrick, Herrington &
Sutcliffe LLP
One California Plaza 405 Howard Street
300 S. Grand Avenue, Suite 3900 San Francisco, CA
94105
Elizabeth C. Garcia
Courtroom Deputy to
Chief Judge James Ware
United States District
Court for the Northern
District of California
280 South First Street
Rm # 2112
San Jose, CA 95113
Office: 408.535.5356
(Direct Line)
Fax: 408.535.5464
Email:
[email protected]

 

I think the one place where you may have gone wrong is doing this yourself. You may have trouble getting your claim approved for the parts. As far as HP not making a replacement to the DV9000 series, I don't think that that's a true statement - I'd definitely be happy with any new DV7t. I agree that we're probably not going to get (nor should we expect) the new computer to have every feature (e.g. firewire) that our old one's did. I am just holding out for a similarly powered (dual core) processor with a 17" screen.

 

And either a firewire port or an Expresscard slot that I can plug in and use a firewire adapter or any other adapter!
I use both - firewire for my JVC video camcorder and expresscard slot for HP HDTV card. DV7t has neither and is therefore not my choice of replacement.

 

I agree with this. We're not going to get exact replacements because they just don't exist. However, I think if there is any discrepancy it should be in our favor, not the other way around (single core vs dual core, almost no extra features vs many extra features). Also, I purchased a smaller laptop for the portability. It is silly that they are just taking the "average" screen of all the class computers. People obviously bought different computers for different needs. (I have a tablet so could choose the Asus, but we all know that's a joke).

As I was assured by lawyers from Milberg several times, depreciation was not a factor. So I used gadgetvalue.com with my computer's specs from 2010 (as depreciation was not a concern, right?) and it came up with about $600 (not including the tablet feature because that was not an option).

 

Just checked HP's support site for the CQ56-115DX. Seems Intel is voluntarily recalling some of them for a defective chip set.

Intel® Chipset Design Issue May Affect Certain HP Desktop and Notebook PCs Compaq Presario CQ56-115DX Notebook PC - HP Customer Care (United States - English)

Will this ever end? :-(

 

LOL, this CQ56 laptop is the lowest of the low. My son has the Wal-Mart version with the Celeron 900 and the Windows Experience rating is 3.3 (Intel graphics are low score), CPU is 4.7. That lappy only cost $299, and the AMD V140 is even worse. Radeon 4250 graphics may be a little better though.

For comparison, I am trading in a Compaq F572US with the AMD TK-53 dual-core CPU which has a rating of 3.0 (Nvidia 6150 low score), CPU is 4.9. Pretty sad that a 3-year old 1.7 Ghz CPU can beat out a current Celly 900, much less an AMD V140. But the wireless has gone out and it was freezing up once a day or more before I retired it - it was a low-end model that I got for free from Staples after a bunch of rebates anyway.

I can certainly understand why anyone with an HP dv9000 or tablet would be pissed about this deal though, they are in no way comparable to the CQ56.

 

I've been assuming we would get new computers but now I have to wonder... are we SURE that the proposed CQ56 replacements are not refurbs from those who've returned computers with this problem?

 

From what I can tell, this problem is with Intel CPUs and wouldn't affect the AMD processor in the CQ56. I think they just put that warning on all of the product support pages. Please correct me if I am wrong.

 

I have created a spreadsheet with the specs of the TX1410 (probably the most common tablet) to the CQ56-115DX (the proposed replacement) in a side by side comparison. There is only 1 thing the CQ has on the TX, and that is that it comes with Windows 7..... Other than that, there are MANY downgrades.

The Green highlights the better, and red indicates it doesn't even have it.

 

I would like to ask if approval notices are being sent and then return package or if some are just getting the return package?

 

How their "experts" choose the laptop:

Bottomfeeding Lawyer: "What's the absolute cheapest laptop you make that we can get in bulk?"

HP: "Why that would be the Compaq CQ56-115DX."

Bottomfeeding Lawyer: "We have found a perfect replacement!"


The CPU in the CQ56-115DX is a joke. These lawyers and this entire scam is a perfect example of what is wrong with big business and the legal profession in this country.

 

I have made a similar comparison. If I were you, I would add in the weight of the CQ56 (from spec sheet 5.6 lbs). Also it has 512 cache size (instead of 2x512). Also I would add in the cpubenchmark.net processor grades (1048 vs 693 at present).
I think the tablet owners' best argument is that this is not a tablet (and the tablet option comes no where near close to the function) and it's not an "ultra-portable" "entertainment pc" like the one we bought.
Ultra-portable tablet /= budget notebook OR tablet netbook

 

Thank you, I have added that to my master spreadsheet.

 

EXACTLY. For replacement of my DV9000 I want a replacement of similar kind and value: 17" HD screen, firewire ability, a processor and dvd drive of similar kind and more.. Also mine was the media center version which I used DAILY to stream music and videos to my xbox 360. Make calls, send e-mails and sign petitions- every little bit counts if you are dissatisfied with your replacement.

 

I can say with as much certainty as possible given the situation that the notebooks being distributed will be brand new in box with full warranty.

 

Hey shasta7: (or anyone else that has written or contacted Judge Ware OR their Attorney Generals Office)

Might I ask, has anyone gotten a reply of any kind??? I am really interested specifically in whether or not anyone has actually gotten an answer from the Judge, but I would also love to hear about any responses from other organizations like the Attn. Gen. etc...

 

cleake, can you email me a copy of your spreadsheet? With your permission, I'd like to attach it as an exhibit to the court. (If you can format it in advance for printing with repeating header rows for 8.5 x 11 paper with 1" margins, you'd save me a lot of time, too.) Many many thanks.

Ted