nVidia Class Action Fairness Hearing is Tomorrow - Almost time to make a claim!

No, none of this stuff is required and nothing happens if the 150 declarations are not obtained. The settlement will go forward without it. In fact, that's what it's all about. If you read more of the posts on this forum, it might make more sense to you. I would go back at least 5 or 6 pages and start reading from oldest to newest and it will most likely be clearer. The short version is that the computer models that are planned to be provided as replacements for the majority of the HP models are inferior to the computers being replaced, which is not consistent with the provisions of the settlement agreement. The 150 declarations may help class members receive what they are supposed to receive.

 

I am certainly not an expert of any sort, but purely based on my personal, anecdotal experience, model designations *do* matter.

In addition to dv2410, I also own HP nc4200 and n8430 notebooks, roughly purchased at the same time. Both "nc" machines are considered to be business notebooks. In terms of fit and finish, there are significant differences between my Pavilion notebook vs. business notebooks. My business notebooks run quieter, run cooler, have had minimal, if any, quality issues.

Maybe the difference between the Compaq Presario model and Pavilion model is just a badge as you say.

But again, I am not an expert so I can easily flip on that argument and say that the difference between Compaq Presario model and Pavilion model is *more* than just a badge.

 

Shasta…. you’re absolutely correct. I’ve read through these documents several times and it’s very important to keep “facts” straight. For whatever reason I was thinking that the verbiage came from the Final Judgment Order (Judge Ware) instead of the Settlement Agreement et al. Thanks, my bad, and I’ve corrected the post.

If this goes back to court though, for an interpretation of “equal or similar value”, won’t the interpretation end up with Judge Ware’s name on it, regardless of who assists in the interpretation? Final Judgment, Para 19…”Exclusive jurisdiction is hereby retained over the Parties and the Settlement Class for all matters relating to this Litigation, including the administration, interpretation, effectuation or enforcement of the Settlement Agreement and this Final Judgment”…..blah blah blah.

And it still appears to me that Milberg et al. never got the memo

 

I use an nc4200 for work, and I agree that is a better machine than either of the HP "dv" machines I had purchased for personal use, but that is not the point of my comments. Those computers are in totally different classes, just as the Dell Inspiron and Dell Latitude models are. The point of my comments was along the same lines as the old idiom, "Never judge a book by its cover."

I was not attempting to draw a comparison between Compaq Presario and HP Pavilion badges and I never mentioned another model or product in my comments. I was merely being factitious about the moniker "Entertainment Notebook PC" that HP came up with, and the perception of value that marketing tactic created with some customers. Musing over what may have been the reasoning behind HP deciding to market such a broad range of machines as "Entertainment Notebooks", there are no distinguishing features that would make me pause and say, "Wow-wee, look guys! It's an entertainment notebook". I do distinctly remember being amused by the badge on the notebook when I discovered it later on, and joking with my wife about it.

There are HP Pavilion and Compaq Presario models that are, for all practical purposes, identical machines. I'm more interested about what's on the inside, display resolution, chassis build quality and warranty than I am labeling. If the CQ56 wore a badge proclaiming it to be an "Entertainment Notebook" it would not qualify it as such any more than it did my wife's dv6449us. But, if it had equal or better components and similar features it would not matter to me. The cheesy little remote control would not be relevant to me, even if that is what earned it bragging rights to the badge proclaiming it is an "Entertainment" model. I realize not everyone is the same and it might be important to some folks.

 

Although the "Entertainment" badge doesn't mean anything to you, it relates to a line of laptops made by HP. Just as desktops can be labeled "Gaming" PCs, it's a designation for the intended purpose of the laptop. If you notice, you don't see Compaq "Entertainment" laptops because Compaq is for "basic" or "everyday" computing.

I see your point though, but in my opinion it doesn't apply to all situation. I couldn't create a computer manufacturing company and market a $200 "entertainment" netbook and expect Milberg to choose that as the replacement.

To go back to the car analogy: Lexus make "Luxury" Cars. If you break it down by parts, isn't this "Luxury" car just a Toyota. For example, Toyota couldn't come out and claim cars similar to the Toyota Altezza are now designated as "Luxury" when Lexus already makes the equivalent Lexus IS300. They're basically the same cars, but the IS300 owner didn't buy the cheaper Altezza.



If I could pick my replacement specs, I wouldn't care what it was labeled. The truth of the matter is that Milberg is trying to find a replacement laptop that is of "similar or equal value" or "similar or equal kind". HP is kind enough to make the distinctions for us. If I bought an "Entertainment Notebook" from HP, then I want a similar current selling "Entertainment Notebook" from HP.

 

I couldn't agree more, without even looking at specs, they've been kind enough to make the most basic of distinctions for us right off the bat. It's like a starting point. After that, I'd then look for an entertainment pc that costs the same as mine when I first bought it. For me, that takes care of the "similar" AND "equal value."

 

While I would be thrilled if they would offer us replacements with the same price tag as what we originally paid, I don't think it's likely. That would be more along the lines of a full recall, of which this is not. What I hope to see is a replacement in the same grouping as my computer (i.e. an entertainment tablet). I'm surprised they even put "value" in the agreement without specifying if this is original value, depreciated value, or something else. Looking back, I wish that I would have objected because of the ambiguous wording, but I guess that's my fault for trusting the lawyers.

 

At a minimum, if we are not satisfied with the replacement, then we should be able to exclude ourselves from the settlement at this point.

People were successful taking HP to small claims court and settling out of court for 75% of their purchase price. I'd rather go through the troubles of small claims court than get the go-around from Milberg LLP (and/or Nvidia)...

 

On the contrary, I would think that any non-legal person would interpret it the same way as you did. Considering the audience of approximately 1.5+ million HP owners, I would think these very smart lawyers used lowest common denominator method (meaning designed to be read by a simpleton like me) to communicate their message.

I dug up some more info and found that total of 18 people requested to be excluded from the settlement (click here for screen shots) over a period of 3+ weeks.

Not counting requests from people who did not indicate their manufacturer, there were:

* 10 out of 12 exclusion requests (or 83%) were from Dell owners
* 1 out of 12 exclusion requests (or 8%) were from Apple owners
* 1 out of 12 exclusion requests (or 8%) were from HP owners

I know the sample size is really too small but on the cursory look, I would say that the settlement language was very effective at keeping HP class members from excluding themselves from the settlement.

In contrast, in just over 3 days, we have collected around 60+ forms, with vast majority of submissions coming from Pavilion dv6xxx, dv9xxx and Tablet owners.

Using my non-legal, common sense approach (or may be I just don't have any common sense), I can surmise that the final tally for exclusion requests would have looked very different in the end, had Nvidia/Plaintiff counsels made clear of their replacement intentions.

 

using my non mathematical skills 1.5 million Hp computers to be replaced and a 350+ million dollar pot = about $233 per person. Now out of the 350 mil we have to account for aprox 3.5 million chip replacements for the dell and apple owners. Know what that leaves us hp owners?


Wait for it........................................................




Compaq Presario CQ56-115dx

 

True, but that assume that entire 1.5M+ HP class members will file their claims.

Much like the hated mail in rebates, I doubt more than 10% will put in their claims (my wild a*s guess or WAG as Dave calls it). You can read more about "take in" rates here

But in the event that claims expenses exceed the current reserve, I believe Nvidia is obligated to place additional reserves into it.

 

On a side note, can HP Tablet owners chime in on major functional differences between { Tx1xxx, Tx12xx, Tx13xx } versus { Tx14xx }?

Some folks have said that Tx14xx have UXGA resolution but I find that difficult to accept based on 12.1" screen size.

Any other major functional differences that you guys can think of?

 

My concern is that the language in this thread as well as that on Kevin's site and Mr. Franks Blog seems to be taking the tone that Pavilion and Tablet owners are somehow getting a worse deal than Presario owners.

For example, from Kevin's site:

I can tell you, as fact, that the Pavilion model of my computer is identical in every way - with the exception of external color, and the designation of mine as NR not US - to the Presario version: model number, specs, features, case, everything.

It would be entirely unfair for the legal forces at hand to give the impression that Presario owners are somehow less entitled to equal compensation, but at the moment that seems to be the tone of the argument. Perpetuating that impression opens the door for the settlement counsel to try and compensate Compaq owners differently. I understand the use of that argument as leverage, but for me to receive different treatment simply because my model a Presario V63XX and not a Pavilion DV63XX is unjust, and I certainly can't be expected to aid that cause if it tries to exclude me.

I know everyone wants what's entitled to them, but we can only get that when our rights are addressed together.

 

The take in rate article is interesting however with a high ticket item like a computer and the fact that the buyers of such tend to be more educated and web savvy I would anticipate the take in rate to be significantly higher.

You are also 100% correct in that if the claims exceed the reserves Nvidia is obligated to satisfy all claims.

 

i am a little confused here. are you saying that the tx1000 models are similar to the presarios (by the way ALL affected hp computers are pavilion computers)? because that is just plain untrue. i also see that among the list of affected models, all of them have dramatically increased specs over the replacements that will be provided.

if i am getting this wrong, it WOULD be helpful if you were a little clearer as to what you are comparing to what.

also, may i point out, AGAIN, to the many new users bringing up old discussions, that the money set aside as a RESERVE for this settlement by nvidia, is JUST THAT. a RESERVE. the court documents do not state anywhere that they are entitled to hand out cheaper products in order to fulfill their budget. they are legally bound to provide "like value and make" computers to all accepted and approved claims.

 

Yes, I have been here throughout the whole thread just never felt the need to say or ask anything. You guys do quite well at summing up everything I need to say before I get the chance to.

I was asking if the 150 declarations are required for the objection to the settlement that what's being offered as a replacement isn't what's mentioned in the settlement terms. Because as it looks, we won't have 150 by the deadline.

 

I am not an ambassador but welcome to NBR.

To answer your question the 150 number is arbitrary, what they are looking for is a representative cross section of affected models and People. These will be cherry picked to a much smaller number that represents the class as a whole. These will be presented to the Judge and the defendants and plaintiffs councils to illustrate the disparity between the replacements offered and the defective computers identified in the settlement.

The hope being, if enough of a disparity is found or that the terms of the settlement are not being adhered to, closely enough it will force them to provide more options than are currently being provided.

If I did not state this correctly please correct me.

shasta

 

Matt, i never mentioned any comparison to the TX1000. I know I used the term Pavilion, but I noted the tablets separately because they are truly a different animal than the laptops without realizing they are Pavilions as well. That in fact adds to my objection of focus on brand.

BUT, To be perfectly clear:
There is continued suggestion within the language being used by posters here, and to a lesser extent by JTfrommer on his site that owners of Compaq Presarios are being better served by the current suggested replacement than HP Pavilion or HP Tablet owners, and that those HP, and HP tablet owners are entitled to consideration beyond that of Compaq owners. That is simply not true.

Note: I previously noted that The language on Mr. Franks site was showing an anti-Presario bias as well based on a quote from his site made on this thread. I later realized that was a quote from a comment, not from Mr. Frank

As an example, and at the risk of belaboring this any further, I will break this down as much as I can: A poster here was claiming that their HP DV6308NR deserved special consideration beyond that of Compaq owners because theirs was a Pavilion and was branded as an Entertainment PC. Here is the difference between their computer and mine:

1 additional GB of RAM out of the box.
20 GB larger HD out of the box
1 additional headphone jack
an included pair of earbud headphones

EVERYTHING else is Identical: Hardware is identical; Included software is identical; Visual inspection confirms the case is the same; listed dimensions are the same. Mine weighs .2 pounds less. In all likelihood they came off the same line in the same factory.

The notion that I and other Compaq model owners should be satisfied with the current offering, but others should not because of an HP badge, the perception of premium brand, and an Entertainment designation is ludicrous and insulting to Compaq owners, yet that is the growing tone of the current discourse here, and that seems to be the implication of some of the legal proceedings meant to represent us all.

I am simply saying that my objection, and the objection of other Compaq Presario owner to the current offering is equally as valid as any other class member. Our objection here - at least it should be - is to the one size fits all solution; notions of brand should not even be part of the discussion, particularly within any of the legal actions. Posters here can debate what ever merits they want, but those differences of opinion should have no bearing of the legal objectives. I'm taking a big leap here in thinking that anything we say on this forum has any impact on those legal objectives, but given the indirect connection of this forum to Mr. Frank, I don't think it's too far a stretch to believe that the tone of what's said here (as well as in other similar threads that are certainly out there) doesn't go completely unnoticed.

I hope that's enough clarification.

 

There was never a $$$$ cap in the agreement. They agreed to:

“…a replacement notebook computer similar in kind and value if you purchased a version of certain models of notebook computers manufactured by HP containing one of the NVIDIA chips…”

Which is not the CQ56-xx in most cases.

We need to make sure they fully comply with the approved order of the court.

As to Compaq owners, I think and I could be wrong, that the quote was intended to reflect some of the lower end models. I am certain that there are Compaq models that are being maligned here as much as the Pavilion models.

We need to stay together on this. We need to focus on the "one size does not fit all argument".

 

Hi WerdNerf-

Sorry I didn't respond sooner but I had to take care some other stuff first.

Regarding what you are saying about Compaq Presario is absolutely true; I apologize if I gave you the impression that the current replacement proposal is in any way fair to all Compaq Presario class members.

I tried to clarify my statement by saying with certain qualifiers (underlined) but maybe I nuanced it too much:

"I suppose if you purchased certain HP Compaq notebook models, you may be satisfied with the latest proposal to replace your defective notebook with a Compaq Presario CQ56-115DX.

One potential issue I do see, however, is that I have a limited view of specs from the Compaq Presario class members.

I just ran the report of number of form submissions (69 total) and here is how they breakdown:

(2) forms for Compaq Presario (v30xx and v63xx)
(39) forms for HP Pavilion
(29) forms for HP Pavilion Tablet

I think having 2 submissions is a good start but we can certainly use more.

If you (that is all notebookforum readers!) know of anyone with Compaq Presario models, I would greatly appreciate it if you can ask them complete the online form.

As Ken said above, one size DOES NOT fit all.

 

Hi all,

I am part of this suit (tx1000) and would be happy to make a declaration under oath regarding the discrepancy between the TX1000 and the Asus and Compaq models.
Thanks!

 

Gnosis,
thanks for the reply and welcome to NBR.
if you wish to make a declaration do it here: FAIR settlement – NVIDIA Defective GPU litigation ?

 

Not to nitpick, honestly I hope everyone comes out better in the long run, but you counter your own argument here. First of all, what specific laptop are you talking about, and more importantly: how much did you pay for it? Based on what you typed above, the HP Pavilion dv6308nr had 100% more RAM your Compaq had (1GB more of RAM, so yours had 1GB RAM total), 20% more hard drive space (100GB vs 120GB), additional ports, and an IR receiver built in for a remote. I'm thinking that the difference would be in the realm of $200 at that point just to compare to the dv6300 line...not the dv9000 line or even the upper dv6xxx lines.

Once again (beating a dead horse)--go back to the car analogy: Lexus vs. Toyota. They shouldn't be replacing a Toyota with a Lexus. There isn't a one size fits all solution here. Don't get me wrong, if we all get a Lexus, then I'm happy. However, I believe Pavilion owners have a right to complain louder ( especially since the Pavilion 6308nr is a lower-end model of the Pavilions).

 

Actually I've just corrected the specs, USB ports are equal, and there is in fact a IR receiver, I just never used it. Memory is cheap; I quickly upgraded my model to 2GB for less than $50 (BOTH were disappointingly limited to a max of 2GB), and I hope you didn't pay $150 for 20 GB of ND space and some earbuds.

BUT if a Toyota is identical to a Lexus except for the paint job, they're still the same car, just a different color.

 

Whoa,
we all need to stick together here!

blogacomputer/timelycompensation

his complaint is just as valid as yours! we all have differing opinions as to what the ultimate outcome should be. However we need to provide a unified front, backbiting is counterproductive. if need be pm me .

 

^ +1


BTW, I am willing to make ANY changes necessary to FAIR settlement – NVIDIA Defective GPU litigation to draw in more HP class members to our effort.

If that means I need to put my face on it with a donkey next to it, I will do it!

Just remember, if you own a defective Compaq notebook, it's a piece of crap. Just like my defective Pavilion that is piece of crap. So, crap! We are in this crap together!

So come on, get your family/friends/co-workers/ex-husbands/ex-wives/strangers to see if they have defective HP Compaq/Pavilion/Pavilion Tablet notebooks and if they do, get them to fill out our online form!

PS. Everybody has been very friendly and helpful so let's continue with this spirit and welcome All HP class members to express their views/opinions/comments.

 

As a car buff and a computer buff, I think the Lexus versus Toyota comparison is a poor one. The disparity in value and quality you have between a Lexus and Toyota's top offering in the same vehicle class would be like the difference between an HP Pavilion and an HP Envy 3D Series more than the Pavilion versus Presario.

Furthermore, all the bantering back and forth about Pavilion versus Presario is a little bit silly and might even get someone banned from the NBR forum. It is not really producing anything that helps us resolve the lack of equity in the current settlement provisions. What it will produce for class members that are near the low end of the tech knowledge spectrum is confusion. And, potentially bitter sentiments between class members.

Edit: JT and Shasta, could not agree with your sentiments more... we're all in this together.

 

removed a couple of posts... forum rules reminder to all -

Questions regarding NBR's forum rules need to be directed via PM to a moderator.

Thanks everyone.

 

Added my info and declaration to the blog site in good faith. Hope it helps.

This may have been addressed and I've just missed it. So Kevin, forgive me if I'm asking you to repeat yourself, but did you say that Mr Frank is going to use the collected data in his presentation to the court, or may use it in his presentation?

Thanks again for the work.

 

From Mr. Franks website:

"Update, February 22 - One of my clients has established the website FAIR settlement – NVIDIA Defective GPU litigation ? to summarize what's happening and collect potential declarations from other class members. While he is doing the declaration data collection on my behalf, he is not speaking for me, but the site is a useful compendium of information. We may end up with dozens of declarations, but I am not going to want to overwhelm the court, and will likely only use six to twelve of them. I am currently negotiating a briefing schedule with the settling parties in the hopes of getting a hearing date with the court before the claims period expires; without court approval for expedition, there wouldn't be a hearing before April. "

 

I disagree. I am not the most tech savvy person on this forum, but there is a difference between entertainment p.c.'s and other type's of p.c.'s. My computer came with xp media center software and was labeled as an entertainment notebook. I'm not sure if you are putting them in the same category so if you didn't know about xp media center, I digress. If you wanted to make a media center entertainment p.c., you would need to buy more than just a remote.

The software that comes with xp media center has 350 megs more than xp home, and includes programs like the the media center extender which allowed me the ability to stream pics, music and video to my xbox360, which I really liked and used all the time.

I purchased my computer specifically because it was a entertainment notebook, so I could use it with my xbox and use the remote while watching dvd's and what not. Some people are not computer experts- myself included, but I find the replacement does not have these features thus does not equal "like kind". I am also bothered that you would post about laughing about people making specific purchases for an entertainment notebook because of badging. Maybe I am missing something, but I feel there is more than badging that went into my media center xp dv9000.

 

Thank God i got my Letter!!!!! It came today. I am approved!!! So i guess the HP registration is proof enough for this. i didn't have a proof of purchase such as a receipt. Now I called fed ex and they're hopefully going to bring me my packaging to send the clunker off. Otherwise i will either have to drive 20miles or 50 miles to the nearest Fed Ex center. Hope I don't have to drive that far. anyhoo i wonder how long it will take to get the replacement? It took two months to get the letter so will it take another 2 months to get the new computer? btw the letter says nothing about the hard drive or power supply. who cares. a 80gb is nothing to the newer computers having 250gb or more.

 

I don’t want to rain on anyone’ s parade here or continue to beat a dead horse, but there is just no such thing as equally configured DV2000 and V3000 or DV6000 and V6000 units. Besides the minor feature differences that have already been mentioned and a different (“some” might say more attractive) finish, the DV series notebooks also included additional media keys and features which also made them look slightly different. I’m not sure about the rest of the DV2XXX or V3XXX notebooks, and frankly it’s not worth the time to look it up, but the point is that in both looks and function these specific HP/Compaq cousins were in fact subtly different. Whether you or I believe those differences are important or add value really doesn’t matter because HP clearly did/does; thus the naming conventions. Also please look at the tittles of the HP sub-forums here at NBR. They are divided into categories for Business, Envy, Pavilion, and Presario. No one here dreamed up these class categories, it was already done for us.

Further, another subtle example in the current HP models that most folks do not notice is that the Compaq & G series notebooks do not include ProtectSmart hard drive protection. This is a standard board level system included on all newer DV, DM, TM, & Envy series units. Therefore, like before, the economy (HP name not mine) versions have “somewhat” de-featured motherboards when compared to their entertainment/multimedia/high performance cousins.

Not a dig…. just a point in open debate. I too wish everyone afflicted with the Nvidia disease the best cure possible. For what we’ve all had to endure, we deserve it!

Maintenance & Service Guides:
DV2000 Page 1-15
V3000 Page 1-13
DV6000 Page 1-15
V6000 Page 1-16

 

For The Blend… just wondering, but if there is one, what currently available HP notebook would you consider a “reasonable” replacement for your DV9000, and what specs would it have? If you could please include rationale it would be appreciated. Is your concern specs, money, or perhaps some combination there of? If you don’t want to post this information, I understand, but if you could PM me I would sincerely appreciate the insight. Thanks, Dave

 

Im still waiting on my letter, I better call in to see if its been approved.

Hmm, I wonder, the tx1000 was purchased under my father's name, he got a notice in an email, and the post card was mailed under my sisters name, I'm starting to worry a bit now since I did the claim under my father's name since that was how it was paid in the credit card statement.

 

Hey Dave, I am happy to post my thoughts about a replacement from HP. After doing some more research this poses some interesting topics that I seem to be wrestling with. It seems that it would be nearly impossible to find an exact replacement that matches my notebook due to the forward progress of technology.

Let me elaborate: My biggest concern for the replacement would be that it has a 17" screen and similar processors/technology. As technology has increased, cost's have come down on processors/technology etc.. so it would seem that for me to be happy I would go with the cheapest 17" screen notebook they supply and I should be ecstatic that it has much better quality technology. That notebook would be this model: HP Pavilion dv7 and dv7t series | HP Official Store

That being said, is it unfair for me to want a computer that is similar in amount of money I paid initially for recent models available? What I mean is that if I paid 1700$ for my computer- should I be in titled to a computer that costs the same today? If so I would like this: HP ENVY 17 3D series | HP Official Store

In closing I would like to say that at this point anything better than a cq56 115 would be greatly appreciated by myself. I am not completely certain that the highest tier HP notebook would be fair because I have been using the computer (although 75% of the time it did not work properly) and depreciation and forwarding of technology more than likely would affect that. So in conclusion I think that I would be happy with a HP notebook most closely suited to mine, a computer "of similar kind and value" maybe something like the first computer I mentioned in this post. Ohh, BTW I had posted on page 29 of this thread about an alternative brand of computer I thought suitable as well- Cheers Dave!

 

Blend, I don't know why you would personalize me finding my own purchase humorous and joking with my wife about it. But, why doesn't matter and I apologize if that was offensive to you or anyone else. That was not my intent.

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Now, about the settlement. I received an email from Sara Laratro at Milberg LLP in response to my email to Jeff Westerman. Some of you will recall that I sent an email to Jeff on Sunday asking for written permission to remove the hard drive from my wife's HP before sending it in for the claim. To be honest and give credit where it's due, I am surprised that I received a reply and even more impressed that it was a timely response.

The email from Sara reads as follows:

Additionally, I received my replacement authorization letter today. It did not come with a box. I have to locate a FedEx Office location and we all know the rest of the drill.

The claim was filed online 42 days ago, so it took 6 weeks to the day. Hopefully, the exchange process will go slightly faster than this, but I would be foolish to hold my breath on that.

 

Also, I would like to let JT and others know that I finally have had the time to submit my declaration to his site. I am also talking to friends and coworkers to find who might also be affected so we can try and get more declarations to be submitted. If you have not done so, please take a little time to fill out the form as we are running out of time before some of these declarations are used by attorneys FAIR settlement – NVIDIA Defective GPU litigation ?

 

Why don't you try to re-file under your own name? If it was a gift from your father, using his credit card, that should not have any effect on your claim. Otherwise, I think you may have to live with the mistakes in how the claim was filed.

 

jrfrommer:

I just got a chance to fill out my declaration a few hours ago. I've tried to do it a few times, but I don't have a working computer right now, just my phone. Every time I'd try to type it all in on my phone, it would time out or something before I finished. Anyway, just got a chance to use one of the two computers in the lab at my apartment complex...

Actually, I would really like to know the answers to this as well. Again, I have tried to look up the specs of various tablet model denominations on my phone, but I can only get so far this route. As far as I can, and someone please correct me if I'm wrong, I believe the tx1000 is the base configuration. I found specs to a tx1100us or something, and it had the AMD TL-56 I think. I would just link to the page, but don't know how on my phone...

I bought the tx1220us for $1,399 ($1,515.49 with tax), and it has the 2.2GHz TL-64, 200GB Hard Drive, 2048MB DDR2 SDRAM (2 Dimm), remote, touchscreen, fingerprint reader, LightScribe 8X DVD+RW w/ double layer support, etc., etc. I havnt seen one with more than mine had.

From what I can find, I think the tx14xx's are the Canadian Models. The tx13xx's are Australian, etc.

Again, I'm not 100% on all that, but I WOULD like to know if someone else is.

P.S. and jtfrommer, Ted Frank, et. al.:
Thank you guys so much for everything you are doing to help this cause. I am SO SICK of getting screwed (and seeing people getting screwed) by unethical companies that drag things out counting on the majority of people to get tired and give up! It is SO common now, and just seems to get more and more blatant! I am not asking for anything more than I payed for, but this time, I am not giving up and NOT ACCEPTING ANYTHING LESS than I payed for!!!

 

I got my letter today in regards to my dv9000z being approved for return. I get to spend my time tracking down the nearest Fed-Ex location and getting it packed up there - I hope there's something close to where I live. Reminder #2 states: "It's strongly recommended that you mail your computer within 7 days of receiving the shipping instructions to avoid delays in processing your replacement. In any event, replacements will not be authorized for computers received after July 18, 2011. If your computer is not received before this date, your claim may be denied."

I think I'll wait a bit to see if something more equitable is made available as compensation for my $1500+ dead Pavillion which worked approximately 1 1/2 years (I'm not including the money wasted on out of warranty repairs which proved ineffective - I doubt I'll get more than a few dollars from the repair fund, if that much). I don't expect $1500 worth of current HP product as a replacement, but an HP laptop with a 17" screen, comparable processor (dual core in my case), Media Center type software, a slot for the tv tuner I got as an accessory from HP, and the same amount of memory would seem to fall under "similar in kind and value" - that Compaq replacement being offered bears little resemblance to what I had built.

 

Thanks Blend…. and sorry I forgot about your Asus (long thread). So to sum up your post would it be fair to say that you would find the DV7 acceptable but would also appreciate some level of recognition of the price of your computer? Meaning perhaps some upgrades. I’m not trying to put words in your mouth. I’m just trying to pin down your perspective?

Thanks

 

Hey Dave, to clear that up in finality I WOULD be happy with the DV7t w/out any money on the side or upgrades- I would go for this BUT: HP G72 and G72t series | HP Official Store
But the memory does not appear to be sufficient (opt. 512 mb memory upgrade?) and it's lacking some ports etc..Again I am not totally computer tech savvy so I might be missing something so I feel that the DV7T is as closely related to what I have, IMHO.

 

So, are you going to send it in right away ... or sit on it for a bit?

 

Thanks Blend for your time... hope it works out for everyone.

 

I can't speak for all of the other models, but mine is the TX1410US, and was purchased at Office Depot. I posted the specs back on page 60 I think. It also has the TL-64 processor as well as most of the options available at the time including bluetooth, fingerprint reader, remote, webcam etc..

 

Sounds like a lot of folks got letters today, including me.

I'm sitting on mine for a while. I've had to live this long without a reliable portable, I can wait a little longer. Maybe even til July.

"It's strongly recommended that you mail your computer within 7 days of receiving the shipping instructions to avoid delays in processing..."

To me that sounds like trying to get onto the line of scrimmage and snap the ball as quickly as possible so the refs don't have a chance to watch the replay an realize that the previous play was bovine scatology.

 

My wife has made it clear that she is sick and tired of using her BlackBerry for internet and she wants a usable computer ASAP. So, while I don't think it's a fair replacement, especially because of the wimpy AMD V140 CPU, I am going to send it in right away. She mostly web surfs, does web mail, light work with MS Office apps, FreeCell, Majong, Cubis, etc., so it will do what she wants it to do even though it's a rip-off exchange.

I'm skeptical about something better being offered, but who knows what might happen in the 6 to 8 weeks we will be waiting for the claim to be processed. Really bad publicity is sometimes an effective force for good.

I already have spare parts on hand for hardware upgrades (4GB of DDR3) and perhaps a CPU, depending on what its motherboard will support. I haven't looked at it yet, but there is a service manual available for download.

Like they say, when life gives you lemons, make lemonade. The CQ56 definitely seems like a lemon.

 

I thought about that possibility too if I had to swallow the 115-DX: dump an extra $75 or so for the better processor. But those "N" chips that are listed seem to be hen's teeth. I couldn't find one for sale anywhere. Make's me wonder if they were only sold to OEM's and aren't widely available yet.

I suppose it'd only be a matter of time though if a few hundred thousand CQ56's wind up being distributed... and start failing.

 

Hi all.

Got my letter today also.
I will just hang on to my DV9000z for now as it is still working....knock on wood.
I feel sending it in now might tell the powers to be that the current replacement offering of a Comcrap CQ56xx is acceptable.
When in FACT, it is not.

PS- I have filled ou the declaration as well. Thank you!

My best to all!