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    nVidia Class Action Fairness Hearing is Tomorrow - Almost time to make a claim!

    Discussion in 'HP' started by Mr. Fox, Dec 19, 2010.

  1. WerdNerf

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    My New...

    *CQ56 Complaint of the Day!*

    The stupid thing doesn't even have speakers. How can it not have speakers?

    This has been...

    *CQ56 Complaint of the Day!*
     
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    According to this review...CQ56-115DX comes with okay speakers:

    Compaq Presario CQ56-115DX Review | Gadgets freak

    Hope it helps..
     
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    Well I am handling it all for my sister, and he had gotten the email about the Nvidia settlement, along with both of them getting the post cards. I guess at 12 today I'll just make the call to see.
     
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    Do you have Jeff & Sara's e-mail addresses?
     
  5. Mr. Fox

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    If you look at the opening post for this thread (top of page 1), contact information for all of the law firms involved with the settlement can be found through the hyperlinks provided. Jeff Westerman's email address is [email protected].

    I sent an email to Mr. Westerman and Sara replied on his behalf. I am not providing her email address, as it is important to follow proper communication protocol. I do not know whether Sara is Jeff's assistant or working in another capacity in relation to this class action settlement.
     
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    So there was a tx14xxUS??? Ok. Good to know. I wasn't sure about that, as the only ones with 14xx that I found anything about online seemed to end with "ca" for Canada.

    Hey kleake, would you mind reposting the specs to the tx1410us? I only have my phone am it's kinda a pain to try to find specific posts. I am really curious what the differences are between it and my tx1220us. As I mentioned earlier, I have not seen a TX1xxx... with a better factory configuration than mine. Not saying there isn't one, just havnt seen it.
     
  7. Mr. Fox

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    As most of you already know, the CQ56-115DX has AMD Radeon Mobility HD 4250 graphics with up to 893MB of shared graphics memory. Many of the HP and Compaq notebooks had the NVIDIA GeForce Go 6150 graphics with up to 559MB of shared graphics memory. (This is one of the defective components that gave rise to this class action.)

    Although the benchmarks are far from earth-shattering, they are better than the NVIDIA integrated graphics my wife's machine had. The Radeon Mobility HD 4250 is in the mid-range category with a score of 139 compared to the NVIDIA Go 6150 found in the low-end category with a score of 39.

    With the number of things "not to like" about the CQ56-115DX, this is one redeeming quality that I am pleased about. The other is the Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit OS. But, even with those two positives, the CQ56-115DX is not a close replacement and it does not satisfy the terms of the settlement. It is missing too many features, the chief of which is the crummy AMD single-core CPU. That's not much better than an Atom processor used in low-powered netbooks.

    So, my glass is half-full versus half-empty. Either way, it's holding the same amount of liquid... which isn't enough. NVIDIA needs to make the glass full. :)
     
  8. ronk

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    I remember when I bought my TX1220 ($1399 at CompUSA in July 2007) I also looked at the TX12xx models at Sam's Club and Best Buy. The Best Buy model was only about $800 and was lacking a lot of the features. The Sam's model was close but had a slower processor (TL-xx). So I spent the extra money and got the best. They probably came out with even better models later.

    One of the things people must realize is that for those of us who had our computers die right after the warranty expired, we never got our money's worth out of the HP computer. So for us we paid $xxxx and got taken. If my computer were still working but not 100% then I'd probably feel like something similar in performance is fine. However I'm still trying to get my money out of the replacement "I" was forced to buy because NVIDIA and HP wouldn't get together and say "yes, there is a problem". So a partial reimbursement of my $1399 is the only thing that would make me happy. A CQ-56 just adds insult to injury.
     
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    Below is a link to a review on a very similar model(CQ56-103SG):

    Review HP Compaq Presario CQ56 Notebook - Notebookcheck.net Reviews

    It appears to be an okay replacement for my low-end Presario V6000z with MK-36. However I can fully understand the complaints from people who bought higher-end models. Even for the same model (v6000z/dv6000), there were options to upgrade to Turion X2 TL-50(V6000Z) or TL-58(DV6000).
    Both processors are actually more powerful than the V140...

    For people who chose to order the more "basic" models without upgrade options, there is probably not much to lose with this deal. ---unless "loss of use" is factored in...
     
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    My dv92xx had a GeForce Go 7600, which scores a 219. So the 139 score of the ATI isn't redeeming in my case.

    Just as the CPU in the CQ56 has a PassMark rating of 692, which isn't a good replacement for the orig
    inal machine's TL-64 rating of 1050.

    I also paid more for Vista Business, which I needed for work (Remote Desktop not available in lower versions)....and the 7200 RPM hard drive. And all that's on top of the 17" screen and numeric keypad (again, this was what I used for work).
     
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    Looks like you're right. Nothing is listed on the Product Page, and in the photos I could find their doesn't appear to be any space for them or gridding like most of our defective models, so I didn't think it did.

    But, sure enough according to the maintenance and service manual, for all models: High-definition audio supports Microsoft® premium requirements
    with Presario/HP Altec Lansing speakers.

    SO I guess the revised question is: why not list them on the the product page? :confused: The part number doesn't seem to match any other model so maybe even though they're Altec Lansing they're so bottom of the barrel they aren't worth mentioning.

    The 115DX is so inferior, HP even cut corners on its product page!

    OH! and BTW: thanks for ruining my "complaint of the day" segment. Now I have to retire it on the same day as the premier. :D
     
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    Good to know that Many of you guys received the letters today.

    I am still waiting for mine.

    In between what is meant by "Send it with in a week of receiving to avoid delays"....
     
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    I don't want to repost it as it was a large image, but here is a link to that page. Just scroll down to the second post.
     
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    anyone know if we can keep the power supply? the guy on the phone had no info on it. the hard drive we can keep he said and they won't be turning the computers on to check them. The packaging doesn't mention the PS and the package in the picture looks like it may not have room for the PS. still waiting on the Fed Ex guy to bring me my packaging today.

    UPDATE: The Fex Ex delivery guy was unable to use the bar code on the paper and i need a prepaid label. so i called Nvidia Settlement and they said I have to actually go to a Fed Ex Center. well that sucks. i have no money for gas to go anywhere and it's 50 miles to the one in Topeka KS. rats.
     
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    I'm keeping everything but the bad motherboard unless they come up with a suitable replacement! I figure to put a label on it with my computers model and serial numbers and if they send me the CQ56-115DX I can always use it as a doorstop or something. LOL!
     
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    You can go to Kinkos they are fedex too. In manhatten, junction city,lawrence etc there is also a couple of mom and pops lock and key shops that do fedex as well I hope this helps ya!
     
  17. Mr. Fox

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    The instructions did not say to include the AC adapter. I did not include it when I shipped mine off today.
     
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    ronk:

    I am right there with you!!! I bought my tx1220us from CompUSA in July '07. I also looked at Best Buy and Sam's Club, but opted for the better model. Actually, I want to say the one at Sam's was either a tx1000 or tx1100, but I'm pretty sure it only had the TL-56, less memory, no remote, etc.

    Only thing is, mine started showing symptoms within a few months and totally quit booting all together within 11 months. Basically, I only got about 2 months of use with no issues!... And I FEEL TAKEN!!! I don't have much money, so I had to save up to buy it. STILL don't have a computer either!!! But I don't mind waiting a little longer to get a FAIR replacement!
     
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    I've been following this thread from day one and agree that we are getting a bad deal on our replacements. I also filled out that form voicing my opinion on all of this BS. When I first sent my claim form in I included a polite professional letter stating that the replacement was nowhere near the similar kind or equal value of my 17" DV9000NR.

    I did receive my letter today to send in for a replacement. However I'm with many of you in the thoughts of holding off in hopes of them finding a more acceptable replacement.

    My Question is.. Do you really think they will change anything? It seems that we are stuck with what they decided at this point. If you sent your laptop in and got your crappy replacement, and they change later, wouldn't they honor it for everyone and let you send it back again for a correct replacement? Or do you think because they only have so much money allocated towards all of this, that you might miss out all together if you don't send in right away..

    Just my thoughts.

    Thanks to everyone who has posted and wrote letters and tried to help us who are getting ripped off in this settlement. My computer went out Twice even after a replacement motherboard was installed. :(
     
  20. Mr. Fox

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    xbones - I don't think anyone can answer your questions. For those that are waiting, only time will tell if anything was to be gained by doing so. I am skeptical that anything will change. But, where there's hope, anything is possible.
     
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    Well at least we might get a few new Lawyer jokes outta this whole thing... :cool:
     
  22. eccentriceric

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    thanks but i'm in Emporia. plenty of places that does UPS here plus the UPS Store and Hub but no fedex dealers. there is one at Council Grove that's a little closer then topeka but i might as well go to the actual Fedex store in topeka so i can be sure they have everything i need. The fedex driver wasn't familiar with the bar code on the paper btw. he said that wouldn't work but the Settlement hotline said the fedex stores are well informed of the Settlement shipping arrangements, so they know what to do with the bar code.
     
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    Yeah we might need the adapter for another computer later on. never know. but the hard drive... How many or what other models would it be compatible with? I don't' suppose it would work on my Dell Latitude D600? It is only 40gb vs the 80gb on the bad computer.
     
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    In terms of memory (hard drive space, not RAM), it's compatible with anything that has a SATA port and power available. Since we're dealing with laptops, the HP or Compaq will have a bracket and adapter I believe (probably female to male). If you strip away the bracket and adapter from the HP/Compaq hard drive using a screw driver (to remove the screws), then you can put it in another device. All you need is a Phillips screwdriver. Chances are the Dell has its own brackets or adapters too.

    Keep in mind though, the data won't magically transfer itself to the other hard drive. If you're not a tech savvy person, you may want to ask a friend to go through the trouble of copying your data over (especially if you plan on keeping applications and the OS itself).

    Or as a second alternative, get a docking station for a 2.5" hard drive and pop it in there. You can use it as an external USB drive. You'll still have to remove the brackets and adapters before docking it though.
     
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    A kind email to the executives at HP resulted in nothing. I got a phone call telling me that if they heard anything about the Nvidia Settlement, that I should take it up with Nvidia or Milberg LLP.
     
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    I called fedex they said to call a office there in topeka and see if you can fax your form to them and they will send you the packing material and prepaid ship label not all offices will do it so call around maybe the largest ones first and ask a manager its better than driving
     
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    That's too funny! :D
     
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    Unfortunately not. I checked online and found the D600 has an ATA-100/133(IDE) interface. Most of the affected HP models would have SATA or SATA2...
    Though, you "could" buy a $10 external enclosure to turn the 80gb drive into an USB external drive....
     
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    You are not alone... I bought the v6000z as a gift to my dad for surfing the Internet and basic word processing. The wireless card died in 6 months with very minimum usage. It could no longer be powered on after a bit more than a year. So I bought him a ASUS EEE 1000HA as a replacement. He has been using it trouble free for more than 2 years. I have doubts about HP's quality control in recent years.... My wife's V5000Z is still very stable after more than 5 years...so is my Laserjet 1100xi, 11 years still going strong.
     
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    thanks shasta!!! I'll look into it tomorrow. what's the best way to locate the local number for one?
     
  31. Mr. Fox

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    Got a response from the Attorney General today. It was a waste of time filing the complaint.

     
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    Go to the FedEx web site and you can pull a list of them there.
     
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    FedEx.com | Dropoff Locator | Find FedEx Locations

    enter your info IE: topeka and all the sites will be there uncheck the self service option
     
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    Thank you for your thoughts, but the Asus would NEVER begin to suit my needs. It wouldn't run all the software I use for school/work, plus no optical drive to install anything anyway. Besides I payed $1,400 for a high-performance laptop, and I want it dammit!
     
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    taken from Mr. Frank's new blog section ( http://centerforclassactionfairness...howComment=1298553111135#c110196802592209708). lets hope the court approves the motion for an expedited hearing.

    once again, since things seem to be happening on Mr. Franks side, i would suggest NOT SENDING IN YOUR COMPUTER until we figure out what exactly is going to happen.

    i realize that some of you "want your computer now" instead of having to wait, but a little patience goes a long way and you COULD potentially be losing out on a better computer should Mr. Frank be successful and having the court orders enforced more effectively. imho, i would submit a claim and hold onto the letter if/when you get it until this whole mess is sorted out and we get more of an idea as to what the result of all this will be.

    patience guys, please.
     
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    I received my approval letter yesterday. I will not be sending in my hp pavilion 17" dv9005us desktop replacement for a 15" compaq. I would gladly send in my faulty motherboard only for the 15" compaq, now that is an equal and fair exchange! I am going to wait this one out and hopefully Milberg and Nvidia do what they agreed to do in the first place.
     
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    One would hope that the settling parties would treat all the class members fairly if the judge rules that class counsel and NVIDIA have not appropriately administered the settlement and orders them to provide a computer of similar kind and value. There is a risk, however, that NVIDIA will argue that, by signing the claim form and sending in the computer for replacement, a class member has waived his or her right to request anything more than the CQ56 that was explicitly offered.

    I cannot offer individualized legal advice, but someone deciding whether to send in for the replacement right away rather than wait a few weeks to see what the judge rules has to balance a few-week delay in getting a CQ56 against the risk of being stuck with a CQ56 instead of something better if the judge rules in favor of the complaining class members. (If the CQ56 is better than the computer you plan to send in, then the settlement probably isn't going to improve for you.) So long as your computer arrives by the July deadline, you'll still get your replacement.

    We've made a preliminary motion to get a hearing before the judge on March 14. Updates will be posted at Center for Class Action Fairness: Motion made in the NVIDIA GPU class action settlement

    Separately, I'm hearing stories that officials with the settlement administrator are telling class members that the judge explicitly approved the use of the CQ56 for all of the class members. This simply isn't true. Please share your stories about what the settlement administrator is telling you if you've complained to them about the discrepancy between what is being offered and what you were promised in the settlement notice.
     
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    Although I can understand what Matt is saying, please review all available information and make the decision for yourself.

    If you are comfortable waiting, by all means do so, but if you need a replacement computer now for whatever circumstances you are in, you should get your CQ56 or Asus now.

    At the end of the day, you are responsible for making up your own mind and living with whatever outcome that may come out of this case.

    <rant>
    But keep this in mind; we all sit around and complain amongst ourselves how unfair the court system is and how greedy lawyers are, but we do nothing about it.

    At least for me, complain-but-do-nothing time is over; we have The Center for Class Action Fairness that is willing to put up a good fight on our behalf. Whether we win or not, we can at least give it a good try. If you can, join the fight and stand up and speak for what is right

    </rant over>
     
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    If you want the actual PDF files, you can download from this post
     
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    EDIT: Just realized tedfrank posted above about this issue. I'm pretty sure he knows more about the legality of the whole situation than I do :)
     
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    couldnt have said it better myself. it is, overall, your choice. but you could be missing out in the end.
     
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    We have waited this long. I'm for holding their feet to the fire; it's an opportunity to do something about injustice.
     
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    The online form collection will close in 5 hours or so but I will keep it open a bit later if necessary to capture additional submissions.

    I suspect it will take couple of days to scrub and analyze the data and send out signature requests to a small subset population.

    To make sure that we have a closed communication loop, you will receive an email from nvidia411 (at) gmail.com stating whether or not your declaration has been selected for use.

    PLEASE DO NOT BE OFFENDED IF YOU ARE NOT SELECTED.

    If you haven't completed this form yet, please do so now.
     
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    ** Tx1xxx model reviews needed **

    Ronk did an excellent job of summarizing key diff. between various models ( click here for files and images).

    Can you guys review it for accuracy and if you found something to be inaccurate, leave a comment?

    thanks
     
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    the tx2000 is not included in the settlement since it is an ati gpu.

    hmm, Im not sure on the specs since my tx1000 is a tl-58, but bottom is labelled as tx1000 with 2gb of ram. It seems there are so many variations of the tx series that they are configured all differently and not one will be the same
     
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    jtfrommer:
    I think most the information is correct, although I notices that for the TX1320 the bluetooth section is blink. I know that my tx1320us has bluetooth build in, so I think that all the 1320 model will have it as standard equipment. It is probably not a big deal, but just FYI just in case it is deem important.

    And Thank You for putting in the effort to get the website and data collection going. I haven't send my TX in in hoping that we get something fair as replacement.

    Even if i get a DM1z-3020us, I would be happy.
     
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    The specs for the TX1410 seem to be correct. Too bad I didn't keep the first one I purchased. I purchased a "cheaper" model from Walmart, then took it back and paid the premium for the higher model at Staples. Silly me, expecting a product to live long enough to be worth what I paid for it. Now I'm told it's worth as asmuch as a low-end netbook. :eek:
     
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    Also on my tx1410us, 1 of the 3.5 mm headphone jacks is S/PDIF
     
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    Just came back from traveling. Guys, like Matt said, please hold on and do not send in your computers even though you have got approvals. We promised to fight together. Then do not give up. Live together or die together -we need to fight against the unfairness!
     
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