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    nVidia Class Action Fairness Hearing is Tomorrow - Almost time to make a claim!

    Discussion in 'HP' started by Mr. Fox, Dec 19, 2010.

  1. tedfrank

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    Nothing I'm doing precludes you from doing anything. Any class member who is unhappy with their treatment under the settlement is entirely free to hire their own attorney (and that includes my clients, who have the right to fire me). You might even find an easier time doing it now that there are briefs filed. I'm not going to complain about any other attorneys who get involved, so long as they're working in the interests of the class as a whole.
     
  2. Mr. Fox

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    My bad on that, kscott. Now I am wondering if the settlement site simply has a typo and nobody knows for sure what they're going to receive if they choose the Asus over the Compaq. Maybe a phone call to the settlement hotline will straighten it out.
     
  3. Batman1

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    I think we have to wait for the ruling from the judge. Don't we ? And I'm not saying you aren't doing a great job . You are. I'm just trying to see what our options are, like each of us being able to file a small claim against Milberg.
     
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    dear LORD they CANNOT offer that. there is not even a touch screen on that device! how is that ANYTHING like a tablet...?

    if i had the finances myself, i would definitely take this back to court, and i encourage anyone else to do the same. media is starting to catch wind of this too. i just hope that nvidia realizes that the more stubborn they are on this matter, the more it is costing them in the long run.

    NOT ONLY will going back to court cost them more in the short run, but since media is catching wind, more and more people are being alerted that they have a faulty computer that is included in this settlement. i have all ready seen 2 or 3 that only heard about this settlement via the commotion that is being raised. the more word gets out, the more people they will wind up paying. Nvidia is bringing this on themselves.

    i wish i could hate them and swear off their products (much like i have to HP's products all ready), but they just make good video cards! i cant say no! x) It's just one big corporate game and many other companies do the same thing.
     
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    starshooter10 Notebook Guru

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    I have a few laptops that are effected by this recall yet they are not on the list of of models ?_?

    (I have a few DV6200s one that has WIFI issuses and the other wifi + screen issues and a third that wont POST)
    (also have a dell M1330 that boots and runs for ~10 minutes (untill the GPU warms up) then gives a red white and blue screen, sometimes just all grey. both on the laptops screen and VIA HDMI port, yet music ETC still works :|

    anyway to see about getting these on the list, too late? or have i been wasting my closet space the last 2 years waiting for this thing to finish?
     
  6. dv9000owner

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    Some of the dv62xx's are on the recall list. I'm guessing that the product identification number on your computer doesn't match any of the recalled product identification numbers. If that's the case, I think it's probably too late for you to gain anything directly from this settlement. However, it sounds like there are a lot of other people that have affected computers that weren't covered by this settlement.

    Your options are to either have some firm (hopefully NOT Milberg) launch another class action lawsuit covering all of the remaining models that are affected by this problem or you could try to sue HP/NVIDIA in a small claims court. Disclaimer: IANAL.
     
  7. CJean

    CJean Notebook Guru

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    Even though I knew better, I called the settlement hotline about this. First of all, I hate how they always ask for your claim number and name to "log the call." If I just want public information, I should be able to get it without being on record. They will bypass this step if you refuse to answer, fyi.

    Anyway... the lady said "let me look at the website" and read me the statement directly from there. Basically, they know nothing we don't. I told her that the EU37 doesn't exist and she said she'll "pass it along."
     
  8. Mr. Fox

    Mr. Fox BGA Filth-Hating Elitist

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    CJean, it's sad that employee incompetence is so prevalent in society. We see that on an almost daily basis everywhere we turn, and calls centers are notorious for being a warehouse for incompetent employees. And, among the minority that are competent, there is the percentage that just does not care.

    If the call center rep actually does pass on the information--and someone caring and competent gets it corrected on the web site--then your phone call will have been worth the effort. Thanks for checking it out for us.
     
  9. doogieMD

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    I would rather not put a spin such as this on it. There are many people out of work more than likely, this is a temporary outfit. ¨I think Millberg is doing a good thing. We give temporary untrained workers temp work(they are large law firm, I am sure this isn´t the only settlement they are working on, this is how they are milking us, and getting rich at it)¨. Pardon me, I am very upset. If this isn´t their outfit this is some other third party slave labor outfi. This is only one of many other settlements going on. This is one of the reasons we are in this economic recession, bad lending is only part of it (large for sure). It feels great to know someone like Ted Frank stepping in. I hope he´s entitled to some of Millbergs ¨service/administrative cost¨. Perhaps we should create another petition along those lines. This is very fradulent, I hope that the judge see´s this, aside from the quality (lack of value/unlike) replacement computers offered. My claims form is sitting here as well as the affected laptop, fingers crossed.
     
  10. Mr. Fox

    Mr. Fox BGA Filth-Hating Elitist

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    No spin, just fact. There are a lot of people willing to show up for work and draw a paycheck, but good help is hard to find regardless of the economic situation. And call centers are notorious for that. I know because I have worked in an industry for 25+ years where every company has a call center. Thankfully, I'm not working in a call center. It was like that before the economic crunch and has not improved. Those are not related subjects, but neither set of facts is good.

    You're right about Mr. Frank. He's awesome. And, you should be upset. I think we are all disappointed about the approach the settlement administration has taken in the case of HP owners. They definitely gave us the short straw in this mess.
     
  11. manning_scott

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    Question, does this ruling only apply to US residents who purchased affected laptops in the US?

    - if so, are there any similar actions in the rest of the world? (I'm in the UK..) or is it possible the judge in this case will apply the ruling to ALL affected laptop owners, no matter where they are?

    OR does anyone have a solution - whereby I as a UK citizen who purchased an affected laptop can take up the 'offer' of a replacement laptop? It does seem unfair that nvidia accept they should replace laptops (mines a tx1000) but only for US citizens..

    Sincerely appreciated!!
     
  12. shasta7

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    I'm pretty sure the U.S. courts only have jurisdiction over the U.S. citizens and companies in the U.S.
     
  14. kscottbrown

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    I am not a Lawyer, so this is my opinion - What happens in US Court only applies to US entities (for the most part, since this is a consumer complaint). You should contact someone that deals with litigation in your legal system.

    Likewise, those whose computers are not part of this settlement should seek legal council. Small Claims has worked for some, maybe start another class action (But be warned how NVIDIA settles).
     
  15. Batman1

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    I think this one is called C Y A . I have two laptops and the one TX1000 was just repaired under my Sam's Club Warranty on 2/7/11. When I first started it up and let it run for a hour the air coming from the fan, temp was 100* F with the DVD playing a movie. I let it run 24/7 since and finally last night around 4:00 PM est it went black so I shut it off and let it sit over night.Today it started up and I let it run for three hours without any movie playing and the reading is 130* F air coming from the fan. So the TEMP is rising. So I'll see if it last till July if not I'm sending it in.
     
  16. shasta7

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    This is from my claim form. Notice the bold words if it has ever, it is eligible. If its been repaired and working its eligible



    "The computer I purchased in paragraph 2 has experienced one or more of the symptoms listed below (check the symptoms experienced):
    a. Distorted or scrambled video on the notebook computer screen
    b. No video on the computer screen even when the notebook computer is on
    c. Random characters or garbled images on the notebook computer screen
    d. Intermittent video failure
    e. Failure to detect the wireless adapter or Failure to detect wireless network
    f. None of the above
    5. In the past (check one): I have I have not obtained a repair of the notebook computer described in paragraph 2 because it
    has previously experienced one or more of these symptoms."

    Iam not going to put a disclaimer but with Nvidia some words don't always translate well :D
     
  17. Batman1

    Batman1 Notebook Consultant

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    You know, I love this computer (TX1327CL) It did exactly what I NEEDED, I was able to turn the screen around and lay it flat so I could use my Stylus to do my Logs . I could download and print out my next load, I could plug it in to my 19" flat screen in my sleeper and watch a movie and use my remote control to do JUST that remotely control it. It has a light scribe DVD burner so I can put all my directions to my dealers on it and turn it over to burn the name of each State on it instead of using those stick-ons that only peel off from the heat. They aren't offering anything close for a replacement and when the screen went black again last night , My heart ached!! I don't know why they just can't give something I can use for what I do. Drive truck. I know people think we're the scum of the Earth but without trucks, America STOPS!! You maybe even driving a car that I hauled.Maybe not.
     
  18. kscottbrown

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    While we’re all waiting for the bomb to drop… how about a short movie? ;)

    New G Series
    G4 ($499) G6 ($449) G7 ($599) Starting Prices.

    New Pavilion Dv6
    Price TBD
     
  20. jtfrommer

    jtfrommer Notebook Consultant

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    I can't say I like the new look of dv6. After 3 years, I still love my HP nc8430!
     
  21. miloc

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    Guys, what are the odds they will deny a replacement? I mean, having a portable device since 2007 shows some normal wear and tear; My pc has some cracks because I drop it twice. Actually.... The touch screen panel cracked 1 year ago, I had it removed, worked fine w/o touch.
     
  22. shasta7

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    While I am waiting too....


    I kinda like the dv6 in that color and it looks like a old style touch-pad compared to the integrated one.
     
  23. jtfrommer

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    my defective dv2410 came with a vertical screen scroller on the right side of the touchpad. is the same feature available in new dv5 or dv6?
     
  24. savage25rcracer

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    those will be the normal signs of wear and tear. what will not be accepted is malicious dismemberment aka your so p'd at it you hammered and ripped the screen off, or decited to through it in the fish tank.

    So 99% unless you did.
     
  25. kscottbrown

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    Most newer touch pads use multi-touch. You drag two fingers up down or sideways to scroll a page.

    Interesting that they use the "Framing" feature to make the keyboard look smaller. I would think any "Feature" around the keyboard would be to make it look bigger.
     
  26. OldMajorDave

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    Note that the starting price of the 14” is $50 more than the 15”. Hmmm…sound familiar Kevin? ;) I also find it interesting that the new G Series apparently is being labeled as a Pavilion. How to trash a moniker in 1 easy step! Yes I know, it was all BS anyway…blah blah blah.
     
  27. OldMajorDave

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    I was thinking the same thing.
     
  28. doogieMD

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    The G series doesn´t quite look as nice as the dv6/7 series. The dv6/7 series looks to be more along the lines of the Pavilion´s. Aside for this boondoggle many features. Nice machines.
     
  29. Batman1

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    Hey Uncle Buck, :D I looked at all G's and DV's but I haven't seen anyone come up with a Tablet PC and a Netbook isn't a Tablet PC.
     
  30. Goldee25

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    I have a DV9000 bought in Feb. 2007. I have not filed a claim yet getting ready to do that before the deadline. I called the hot-line to complain about the replacement and was told they couldn't comment on what computer I would be getting that I needed to go to the website and read it. Two days later I called the attorney's office and was told the reason I would be getting the Compact 15 inch was because my computer was old!! Are you kidding me?? I told the woman I bought a 17 inch with all of the bells and whistles and it was not right to be given a cheap laptop to replace my $1000 one. She basically told me tough, ask for my name which I would not give her. I just don't see how this is fair. I ask why they can't just fix my computer and she said they don't have the parts to do that. My question is should I go ahead file the claim but write on the claim I do not want to except the laptop they are offering? I don't know a lot about all the tech stuff with computers but know the replacement is no where near the one I bought. I had to send mine in to HP three times to have it fixed while it was under warranty and they never told me the problems I was having was from the NVIDIA chip. The last repair I sent it twice in a month for the fan being so loud and running constantly. It is so hot you will get burned if you lay it on your lap. I ask if they could replace it since I was having so many problems. I was told if I had to send it in three times in a year they would replace it with a new one. Wish I had done it one more time before the warranty ran out...I would have a new laptop without the NVIDIA chip and would not be dealing with this crap. I have told everyone I know about this issue so maybe more people will come forward and refuse to be taken advantage of like this. Thanks to everyone here for all of the help.
     
  31. OldMajorDave

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    Well Mr. Wayne…have they let you out of the Bat Cave again?
    I’m really not too familiar with the older TX tablets, so just what is it that would be unacceptable compared to the new TM2t. Low horse power?
     
  32. Batman1

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    It would be great if you didn't have to buy an external DVD drive to watch jump up and down on my Dog House all day long. :eek: . The Bad thing about the Bat Cave is that there isn't a light at the end of the tunnel. :p
     
  33. OldMajorDave

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    Bruce... I hate to tell you this.... but there isn't supposed to be.

    Seriously though, is it only the lack of an internal optical drive? They offer an external.
     
  34. jtfrommer

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    Law.com has the article that was originally posted at The Litigation Daily ( here)
     
  35. jtfrommer

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    heh, watch them change it back to g series after july 2011 ;)
     
  36. kscottbrown

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    Have you been to Declaration ? FAIR settlement - NVIDIA Defective GPU litigation yet? You should enter a declaration with the info you just related about your conversation.
     
  37. OldMajorDave

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    Goldee… no one here can tell you what your individual best course is for this issue. My advice though is to just complete the form. If you want to include a note that says you don’t believe that the replacement is comparable I think that’s probably OK. I personally however, would not recommend telling them that you do not want the computer. No one knows how this is going to end and if you tell them you don’t want anything they just “might” not send anything. Also I don’t think the contract is complete until you send in your old computer, so this gives you time to see what happens in the courts and think about it a bit.

    Just my thoughts…. others may differ……and welcome to NBR.

    Add: I would suggest you also follow Scott's advice above.
     
  38. OldMajorDave

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    Man... Nvidia is getting hammered with that Headline. I bet they aren’t very happy campers. BTW….Excellent open letter to Jen-Hsun Huang, NVIDIA CEO.
     
  39. shasta7

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    I like this headline the best


    NVIDIA class action settlement: Milberg declares war on its clients

    :D


    Its almost 5:00pm pacific hopefully being friday they will file by then
     
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    I know, that one has to hit home. Only six words and such paradoxical sarcasm. I think I like Ted more every day! :notworthy:
     
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    I don't know but does it come close to your TX? Did you look at the Thinkpad?
     
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    Probably not 2 but they should at least include the multimedia base, since our original was an entertainment pc. :p
     
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    I took one look at the price and it wasn't $99.99 so I didn't go any further because I don't want to be too much of a burden on Milberg. :)
     
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    Has anybody filed claim around 1/20/2011 received the approval letter and packing instruction?

    I filed my claim on 1/20/2011. But I have not heard any news from the settlement counsel.
     
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    I filed on the 20th. I called yesterday mine was approved on monday. letters were going out today or monday per settlement admin.
     
  49. deenabee

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    I mailed my claim on 1/18/2011 and I'm assuming it arrived by 1/20 or later. I have received my letter as of Monday, 2/28. I guess if you filed online, there may be a slower processing.
     
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    No kidding :rolleyes: …. But do you really think it will remain July?
     
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