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    nVidia Class Action Fairness Hearing is Tomorrow - Almost time to make a claim!

    Discussion in 'HP' started by Mr. Fox, Dec 19, 2010.

  1. eccentriceric

    eccentriceric Notebook Geek

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    Yeah your right about that. 1+rep
     
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    Batman1 Notebook Consultant

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    rdsatkaycee Newbie

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    '"If the Judge changes models, Their going to have to start all over with NEW notices."
    Why would they have to start over again? I didn't think their notices were based on a specific type of computer.
     
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    I keep checking in thinking that I will see the judge has made a decision but nothing yet huh? What do you all think? Good thing that it is taking a while...maybe he is reading everything. I am going out of town for a little over a week but I will keep checking back to see if we get any news. Have a great weekend everyone!
     
  5. Mr. Fox

    Mr. Fox BGA Filth-Hating Elitist

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    NICE RIG! Although the latest NVIDIA GPUs don't have issues like the defective products in this class action, your not buying based on principle is certainly understandable.

    The great thing about Alienware is you can get them outfitted with NVIDIA or AMD graphics. You're not stuck with their choice. Plus, this is a desktop, so you could remove the NVIDIA graphics card and replace it with AMD.
     
  6. Batman1

    Batman1 Notebook Consultant

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    If you look on the back of your Replacement Authorization Form , You'll see at the top: Remember to make your choice!. So they'll probably have to send out NEW notices so you can make "Your Choice" of the different models.
     
  7. Batman1

    Batman1 Notebook Consultant

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    NVIDIA's new sales pitch : "With your purchase of NVIDIA products, we will at NO charge to the customer, supply 3 years of CORN COBS and ALL the Turpentine needed to keep you HAPPY"!!!! After all, that's all the longer their expected to LAST, Right ? Why would they make them any better NOW ?
     
  8. Batman1

    Batman1 Notebook Consultant

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    The Judge probably slipped on the NVIDIA-Milberg Paper Dung and is going to be laid up for awhile. :yes:
     
  9. kscottbrown

    kscottbrown Notebook Geek

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    NVIDIA DISASTER: thousands of GPUs faulty

    "NVIDIA has admitted to a major manufacturing screw-up, which is seeing thousands of its GPUs overheating, burning out and failing."

    This was back in 2008. Sure doesn't seem like the same company we are dealing with.
     
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    kingdieselfish Newbie

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    By their terms of like computers, matching old equipment gets us the cheapest computers available in our time. What does 2GB of RAM do for you, besides barely run WIN 7? Good thing I pulled my 4GB of ram out of my computer before sending it back. By giving us "like" computers should be Like money spent. The equivalent to what the money we spent would buy us in today's time, not The most basic computer you can buy and will be obsolete in 4 months.
     
  11. Batman1

    Batman1 Notebook Consultant

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    Milberg must have missed this part:


     
  12. Batman1

    Batman1 Notebook Consultant

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    I'll be gald when this is over. This WHOLE ordeal has been Suck City.
     
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    Batman1 Notebook Consultant

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    attmci Notebook Enthusiast

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    I can see a lot of people "green" here.

    I wish you all a wonderful weekend!

    I think the android pad will replace the netbook very soon. So I may keep my tx1000 before it die.
     
  15. eccentriceric

    eccentriceric Notebook Geek

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    I think it's already been about 6 weeks since i sent my laptop in. has anyone got their replacement yet? March sure looks like a long month. almost 5 weeks in one month. 6 weeks down up to 4 more to go. they told me 6-10 weeks.
     
  16. Garyr51

    Garyr51 Notebook Enthusiast

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    They have had my dv9420 since Feb 8th. I called after four weeks for the status and they said it would take 6-8 weeks. I called again after 6 weeks and they told me it would be 8-10 weeks. Week number 9 is coming up. I hope I get a replacement before the life cycle ends on the replacement!

    In the mean time, I went out and bought another laptop, I can't keep waiting for these incompetent clowns.
     
  17. guikubivan@gmail.com

    [email protected] Newbie

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    Hi guys,

    I filled my complain for a HP Pavillion tx1000z and have received a "Replacement Authorization Form." I have not sent anything yet because I actually already recycled most of my computer. I didn't sell the parts and still have the original hard drive, DVD burner, memory sticks, battery and keyboard. Do you think I should try to send them and see what happens? I am worried if I send it, I won't get anything back.

    I haven't called the NVIDIA litigation people, should I?

    Thanks for any suggestions...
    -Pablo
     
  18. matt198992

    matt198992 Notebook Geek

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    uhhh....rofl...i highly doubt they will accept miscellaneous parts of the computer for a replacement of a fully working one.. i wouldnt send it in. call them, see what they say, but dont expect a replacement imo.
     
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    kscottbrown Notebook Geek

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    If it were not a complete computer It would be my guess they would handle it like sending a different computer then authorized. They would give you notice and you would have some time to pay to have it shipped back. That's just my opinion, it doesn't seem like logic means anything to the Admin.
     
  20. TimelyCompensation

    TimelyCompensation Notebook Geek

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    @Pablo

    Unless you have the case with the product/serial number on it still, then chances are you won't get a replacement. If you do have the case w/ the proper numbers, then I'd put as much of it back together as possible and call them before sending it in.

    If you don't have the case, I'd still call them. They may be really nice and accept gutted parts and the original box?

    Good luck either way!
     
  21. TimelyCompensation

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    Still patiently awaiting word from Judge Ware. It appears as though he's seriously considering the motion. Maybe he's trying to decide the best way to tell Nvidia to go back to the drawing board.

    One part I didn't like about the motion (no offense) is the suggested specifications comparison page. It threw a lot of details at the judge to consider. I think if there was a simpler course of action, then we would have heard word back by now.

    This isn't a complaint though; anything will be a step up for us. I'd be happy with a dual-core HP (not Compaq) laptop with similar features as our notebooks. I'm just curious as to how the Judge is going to handle the decision. I'm sure Milberg, Nvidia, and Rosenthal are all dying for the judgement :)
     
  22. kingdieselfish

    kingdieselfish Newbie

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    Did anyone else pull their hard drive?
     
  23. kscottbrown

    kscottbrown Notebook Geek

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    Here is an updated FAQ entry on the Admin site.

     
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    doogieMD Notebook Geek

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    I haven´t removed my hard drive.

    I am waiting patiently to hear what Judge Ware will do with this screwed up situation. Milberg is such a large firm. You would think with all the resources(money) you would think they could handle a class action lawsuit like professionals.

    That judge has got the work on this case for sure.
     
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    donl123 Newbie

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    I sent email to Westerman, Jeff" <[email protected]>

    and got promprt reply:
    "If you are submitting a replacement claim / computer then you may remove the hard drive. "
     
  26. shinobi1

    shinobi1 Notebook Consultant

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    My dilemma regarding the HDD isn't the drive itself. I did see the new rule allowing removal.

    What I don't know is whether it is OK also to keep the caddy. I would like to keep my caddy (don't ask), but am not sure I can get away with doing this.

    A question for those of you who have removed your hard drives:

    Have you separated drive from caddy in order to return the latter??
     
  27. Zeromus-X

    Zeromus-X Notebook Guru

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    My un-official guess is that most people will not know the difference between a hard drive in a caddy and a hard drive without out. I can't imagine they'd deny the claim for a missing caddy, and I'm guessing an argument could be made that the average person wouldn't know that the caddy itself isn't the "hard drive".
     
  28. jtfrommer

    jtfrommer Notebook Consultant

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    Top item is what a caddy looks like (at least in my dv24xx notebook)

    [​IMG]

    Personally I think you are taking on unnecessary risk by not sending in your caddy because:

    1. Milberg and NVIDIA have proven themselves above and beyond in terms of their unfairness and unethical business practices

    2. They clearly said you can "keep the hard drive" but added a bunch of stuff about excess damages, etc. being valid reasons for denial

    3. currently, there is no stated appeals process if you send in your notebook and they turn around and deny your claim because of missing caddy

    Remember, at the end of the day, all they want to do is minimize the payout. I betcha they will be looking for any kinds of excuses to deny your claim, especially if Judge Ware renders his decision in our favor

    Unless you can get in writing from them that you can keep your caddy, I would not risk it for a replacement computer.
     
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    dlfngrl Newbie

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    @jtfrommer
    Would you be willing to release how many declarations (numbers only) you received AFTER the date they were accepted by milburg?
     
  30. shinobi1

    shinobi1 Notebook Consultant

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    I appreciate the replies and I understand the differences of opinion.

    My hope would be, if I fail to send in the caddy and they decide to make an issue of my failure, that they would nevertheless give me the opportunity to send a caddy and make up the deficiency.

    Much will depend on the timing of Judge Ware's decision. I plan to wait and let others go first when it comes to sending in their laptop. Many already have sent them off, though I'm unaware of anyone having received a replacement machine. Anyway, I plan to let things unfold and try to learn whatever can be learned . . . until, perhaps, Independence Day at the latest.

    I just hope the Judge renders a decision before July. If not, we all will be forced to send in our laptops regardless. I'm not going to wait until the last week, that's for sure. Doing so would be just too dangerous.
     
  31. I didn't do it

    I didn't do it Notebook Guru

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    No way will that work mon, they probably have the defective ones sold to someone in a foreign country or planet..


     
  32. shinobi1

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    My suggestion would be as follows:

    First, I think your chances are slim just sending in the parts. However, it appears you have an approved claim. So . . . .

    I would go on eBay or CL and pick up a dead HP Pavillion tx1000 shell, a non-working laptop IOW.

    But however:

    I suggest this not knowing what the going rate is for these on eBay or on CL. You have to compare your cost to the value to you of whatever Judge Ware approves for us. It might pay you . . . it might not.
     
  33. TimelyCompensation

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    Buying a shell on ebay won't work. They'll check the product/serial number and see that it doesn't match the one on the claim.
     
  34. eltrkbrd

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    They don't check the serial #, just that the product identification # matches the claim form you originally filed.
     
  35. eltrkbrd

    eltrkbrd Notebook Enthusiast

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    TimelyCompensation, I just bit the head off your Avatar... Yummy!
     
  36. shinobi1

    shinobi1 Notebook Consultant

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    I believe you might be in error.

    When [email protected] submitted his claim he had to provide a product number from the service label of his laptop. The claim would not even have been allowed, no less approved, had that product number not been on the list of qualifying products.

    Now every HP Pavillion tx1000z laptop has a different serial number, I grant you. But [email protected] never submitted his serial number, only the product number. That product number is one all HP Pavillion tx1000z laptops share in common. So I think he might be OK buying a shell . . a dead laptop. What he buys could even be missing the parts he already owns.

    However, he would need to be certain whatever he buys, on its service label, shows the same product number for which his claim was approved. This should be very doable, though. At worst, on eBay for example, he can ask the seller to provide him the product number from the service label of the seller's laptop - just to be 100% certain it is the right laptop. But if the seller is selling an HP Pavillion tx1000z, he already can be about 99% certain the product number will be right. Still, it never hurts to double check.
     
  37. TimelyCompensation

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    My mistake, you could be correct.

    Granted, he's going to have to get the exact product number then.
     
  38. TimelyCompensation

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    Justice is blind, unless it has the magical Nvidia eye! The eye to find the smallest of loop holes and defend it to the bitter end!
     
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    does any of the new litigation involve Dell owners? protect them from getting more defect parts as "repairs"?
     
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    Running Boston Marathon Monday. Would be nice to have a laptop to take with me on Saturday. Sharing one PC with 5 family members is getting old. We should be compensated for the 3 months that we will likely have been without use of our laptops. I don't think that was ever even considered was it?
     
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    it would be awesome if you could wear a t-shirt protesting this fiasco and finish first for media exposure!
    :)
     
  42. shinobi1

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    Absolutely right. Unless he sends in a laptop having a product number matching the one on his approved claim he will receive in return nothing but trouble.

    And it's not the only "gotcha". The laptop he sends in will preferably display the same symptoms he reported on his approved claim. Fortunately many of the failed laptops do exhibit the same deficiencies and failures. Still, it's something for which to be on lookout when doing a substitution.
     
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    Anyone got anything about repair reimbursement? I submitted both claims but I think the letter that I got didn't say anything about repair reimbursement being approved.
     
  44. Zeromus-X

    Zeromus-X Notebook Guru

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    I never received any paperwork on my "repair" claim either, only on my "replace" claim.

    My "repair" claim included my original conversations with HP concerning the wireless problem (that I had logged for whatever reason), an email interchange with HP stating that there was no known problem but that I could do an advance RMA on the part, and then two invoices from one of our stores for the labor to do the work. I was wondering if that part would be questioned, since my email address matches the name of the store that did the work -- but I don't do repairs on laptops and I don't own the store, so I had to pay the tech out of pocket to do it. And I did it through the store so that I'd have a receipt exactly in the event something like this happened!
     
  45. aw614

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    What about sending them defective components such as bad ram or bad hd, they arent going to be testing those if the laptop doesnt even boot?
     
  46. shinobi1

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    I almost certainly will not be sending in my laptop any time soon. I do not see early action as being beneficial to me in this situation. So please read this as a partial response only to your question. I continue to look at this matter:

    So far I have (unnecessarily) acquired a bad HDD to send in. This because I wrongly believed it was necessary to send a HDD (I called them on this months ago and was told they wanted the HDD. The policy changed and I failed to keep up.)

    I also bought a bad optical drive because I wanted to retain my good drive for use in another computer. The bad drive, outwardly, looks just fine. It just does not work properly. My cost was three bucks on eBay . . worth it to me.

    On the memory:

    My laptop uses minimal RAM . . . two sticks of DDR2 512M. Both my sticks are good, but even if I keep 'em I don't really have use for memory like this. Still, with all the time available between now and July I might stop into a few computer shops and beg for some dead memory . . or not. I'm not sure I will bother to do this.

    There is other stuff and I'll have to consider each item separately. If I pull items I must replace them with (albeit non-working) identical parts. I'm just not sure it's gonna be worth the bother.

    I do feel good about harvesting my optical drive because I needed a DVD drive. Already installed it into one of my Thinkpads and it's nice. I'm happy to have my old HDD, which works fine and I can use, but that's no bigee any longer. The rest of the stuff, well, we shall see.

    I did write earlier I want to keep my HDD caddy. I probably will risk harvesting that, but I'm not sure. It's a long time until July. :)
     
  47. radioage

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    NO. Haven't heard a thing on repair reimbersement claim! Did get replacement claim approval.
     
  48. radioage

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    Here is a replacement caddy kit:
    Hard Drive Caddy Kit for HP DV9000 Series Laptops
     
  49. Zeromus-X

    Zeromus-X Notebook Guru

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    I came home today to a letter from the settlement saying that my reimbursement claim was DENIED due to not sending in proof of purchase. I'd assumed that proof of purchase being provided on the replacement machine would be enough, but apparently it was not. I was told I have until April 18th to submit the requested information for reconsideration. They also said I didn't submit paperwork stating how much I'd spent (which isn't true).

    So, if you send in a claim for reimbursement, you need (a) proof of purchase and (b) receipt from work done which states the exact dollar amount you're requesting.
     
  50. shinobi1

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    Hey, thanks! That's pretty amazing. I would not have been able to guess pricing is that high. I usually shop on eBay, though.

    I guess for sure it's gonna be worth the risk to hang onto my caddy. Worst thing likely to happen is they refuse to ship my replacement laptop and demand a caddy. Don't think they are gonna have the granularity to be able to do that . . . . . . but I could be wrong!

    Probably will ship the connector, though. When you pull the HDD and caddy, that stays put. So I think most people are going to send in their HDD connector and I had better go along.
     
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