JUST purchased a Lenovo Y500, bad timing?

In a business meeting setting, the only thing that matters about your laptop is the brand.

Brands like Dell Latitude, Lenovo Thinkpad, HP, Sony Vaio, Apple MacBook Pro/Air will "fit in," because those are the brands that people expect to see in a business setting in the United States. I can squeak by with a Lenovo IdeaPad, beacuse the back of the laptop is simple and plain enough as to not draw negative attention.

You do not see Asus, Acer, Clevo, Sager, or Alienware as standard-issue laptop brands in the business world in the United States, despite the advantages some of those laptop models have to the consumer-enthusiast market. If I'm in a business meeting and people start talking about laptop build quality, features, or performance, then the meeting is a failure. I'm in that meeting to sell my employer's products and services. I am not there to talk about laptops.

In a business meeting setting, the only thing that matters about your laptop is the brand.

It is the same reason why you go into a meeting wearing a nice sport coat / jacket (and tie, depending on the client you are visiting). People develop their first impression of you within 5 seconds of meeting you. And you only have one chance to make a first impression.

 

Very true. I would never ever show up at a meeting or other formal business function with a bulky and flashy gaming laptop like an Alienware, ASUS RoG, or MSI G-series. Clevos are actually alright as they are very plain and generic-looking and if you forgo the logo when purchasing people won't even know what brand it is.

 

actually it is likely the 750m sli will only be marginally slowerthan a 7970. the 750m is almost on par with a 670m.

 

In synthetics maybe, but definitely not in games. SLI scaling is never 100%.

 

Man who cares what kind of laptop you have in a business Meeting, people have Ipads Smart Phones, Dells, everything and anything. In the IT world I work in I wear sneakers to meetings hows that for a statement. And I've had Teradata Consultant come in to the office with Cowboy boots on. At the end of the day if people aren't giving you grief for what you're wearing I doubt they're going to give you grief of the laptop brand you're using.

 

You obviously work at a very lax company. Many of us still have to dress up for work and are expected to look and act professional at all times...

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You're describing a workplace meeting with colleagues. In that setting, you are correct... nobody cares.

I'm talking about sales meetings & presentations in front of prospective clients. I'm meeting with company presidents, CFOs, CIOs, Senior VPs that don't work in IT. And believe me, if I show up to a meeting with a CIO wearing sneakers and pull out an Alienware laptop, I might as well just turn around, walk out, and save us both the 30 minutes of time. Because he won't be buying any of the products & services that I am trying to sell to him.

 

Glad I'm not in that industryas I sit here in my Polo, Jeans and Pumas. My CIO sits across from my desk and the guy wears golf shirts and sneakers all the time. THe only thing "IBM" about what he does is the cars he drives Audi A8 and about 3-4 different Porches suppose those aren't exactly ricers or anything.

Plus don't companies nowadays provide laptops for their employees to use? Every company I've been with is either giving me a think pad or a Latitude to use. Hooking up your own computers and acessing the company network/database sounds Disasterous to me.

 

Agreed. No way i see it matching a 7970 in gaming, but yet again weve yet to see gaming benchmarks for the 750m sli in 1080p so

 

Hi Guys!
I have been looking at the Lenovo Y500 for a couple of weeks now, and Im definitively getting this laptop, I am still unsure though if i'll get the GT 750 version.

I've talked to a guy at Lenovo Norway, according to the lady on the phone, he would know about the newer models etc.( we emailed).

Turns out he has no clue as of yet, if there is going to be a bump in the price?, when the 750 model is coming to europe? etc.

Same with the most popular webshops in Norway.

So I joined this forum, just to talk to you guys, seeing as we all want to know more about the newer graphics card, and the mutual interest in the laptop.

I have some questions for you guys, hopefully I get some answers!

Do you guys know if the touchpad issue was driver related? or is it a physical fault on the laptop? because I am strongly considering just buying a lenovo y500 with the GT 650m sli setup, and I don't know if the store Im buying from has the older/faulty models or not.

If you would estimate a price difference on the newer version and the 650 one, what would it be?
Also will I get by with just the 650 SLI in future gaming?

Answers is much appreciated!

 

If 750m SLI match the GTX675mx it would be nice, its still matter how it would scale in games though.

 

Once I get everything on my new machine squared away I will overclock to 750M SLI speeds, or as close as it can achieve, and that should give a good indication.

I wouldn't trust notebookcheck.net results even if they had the 750M SLI in their database because they always use outdated drivers without removing bloatware and optimizing the system.

 

I believe the touchpad issue was hardware related. Once they changed from ElanTech to Synaptics touchpads it was fixed. All machines manufactured from December 2012 onward have the Synaptics touchpad so if you're buying a new machine it should be no problem.

 

Agree.

My company issues me a Dell Latitude E6430 (14.1" 6-lb beast). I would be fine with that, if i didn't also have a horrible and debilitating addition to PC gaming.

My Lenovo Y500 (and the other laptops I've owned in the past) have been bought by me out of my own pocket. But at least I get to list it as a tax write-off at the end of each year.

Security isn't also that big of an issue, because I work in a privately-held software company (no SOX complaince) that doesn't deal with healthcare (HIPAA, 21 CFR Part 11) or the finance industry. So as long as I perform well and fly under the radar with my "rogue" laptops I've been connecting to the company network over the past 6 years, nobody has given me any trouble.

 

Short answer:

* If you can afford to wait a few weeks, get a Lenovo Y400 / Y500 with a GeForce 750M GPU. That will perform about 15%-20% than a GeForce 650M.

* If you cannot afford to wait and must have a laptop now, buy a Lenovo Y500 with dual GeForce 650M in SLI. If you have a retail store near you with stock, you can have one of these laptops in your hand immediately. If you must go through mail order, you can pay for express shipping and get the laptop tomorrow.

 

Just a quick note, I ordered my GT750M SLI on the 19th and just got shipping confirmation today, as did other people. So really, only takes 2-3 business days to ship and it should be here by the end of the week

 

Blah! So jealous!

If I could afford to wait two more weeks, I totally would have done that!

Unfortunately, Lenovo ship date estimates are unreliable, and they do not offer express shipping!

The first thing I want you to do when you get your new toy is reformat that sucker onto a clean windows 8 install onto an SSD like we discussed, get nVidia drivers o to it, and post 3dMark11 scores to make everyone jealous!

For reference, a pair of 650M GPUs in SLI post about 3750 in 3dMark11 on stock speeds. . I'd expect your dual 750M to post about 20% higher than that at stock speeds.

 

I am jealous! I ordered the Y500 750M SLI on the 17th, and only got shipping confirmation this morning that it would be arriving on the 1st next week.......

 

Yup, I'll get on it once it arrives. Thanks kent.

 

Should clear this up since I might have stretched my words. I got shipping confirmation this morning and the tracking info says it shipped "UPS Worldwide Expedited" which takes 2 business days to arrive to Canada. My estimated delivery from Lenovo is still May 1st, so it could take a week :S

 

Thanks Kent appreciate your answer! The thing is though, that I live in Norway and I can't find no retail stores selling the y400 over here, and we only have access to the 650 models on the y500 + lenovo.com dosen't ship to norway, neither does the other sites you guys use, and if they were to ship, I would get taxes.

You guys in America mostly get electronics before us, and you guys have barely got the model, soo it might take a bit longer than a few weeks, but who knows!

Are you guys sure the 750 can be overclocked though? When the 650 came out, on the paper it had more potential than the 660 according to anantech.com.
the 750 is built on the same architecture as the 650, and from what i've heard it's supposedly just a renamed model that's overclocked with some more features.

 

Did you guys just skim through the above? In every review I've read they are knocking the Y500 about its heat problems, why add to the problem? If its already higher, then overclocking it will make it stay in the danger zones on the 750 probably!

 

I think performance will largely depend on what type of RAM you have, and what it's bandwidth is - irrespective of if its branded a 750m or 650m - there no guarantee the new 750m will benefit from the same fantastic 2gb of proper gDDR5 that Lenovo's current model gets

- my Clevo 650m Boost's to a tasty 950mhz so your Lenovo at 790 has loads of safe potential if you want to OC, worry about the temperatures when you get it, if you live in Norway I don't see heat being a problem

I'd be tempted to say stick with it. we don't even know if lenovo will bring out another dual chip solution, and if they do we don't know how long it will take, or what memory/clocks it will feature - maybe they didn't make enough money on this one and they won't risk another? and maybe the price of this 650m SLI setup has dropped to get rid of old stock, and the new one will be more expensive anyway.

One things for sure, a pair of GT650m's paired with 2gb of gddr5 each is going to be bloody fast - notebookcheck suggest it's faster than the 675m *aka GTX 580m, it will certainly not be out performed by any noticeable margin by the 750m and the 800 series which is the next new architecture won't be out until 2014 to replace Kepler so that's the date I'd be keeping in mind

 

I too have the E6430 but my resolution on my system is so bad. In terms of gaming laptops I also have 3 alienwares and a Macbook Retina so in total five laptops, so I'm covered in all situations or possibilities for each weekday.

I'm considering buying this Y500 laptop for a friend for a birthday Gift in May but I'm not sure yet. IT would be his only PC as his previous laptop was an Alienware m15x but it's begining to show it's age

 

Which is still on point with a international shipment. This is shipping from China and the day of item pickup counts into transit time. My shipped yesterday and will be receiving it on the 30th

 

You, sir, are a good friend that buys good presents.

If I recall, the Alienware M15x was retired back in 2011, and would max out with a GeForce 260M generation of GPU.

Have you considered giving him one of your current laptops (e.g. Alienware M17x R3), and getting an Alienware M17x R4 for yourself?

 

Nope people have upgraded their M15x with the GTX 680M and 7970M. That's the beauty of Alienwares. The CPU "only" goes up to the i7-920XM/940XM but when overclocked those things are beasts.

 

You just made me buy the 650 version! I mean life is too short, there will always be something new + I was at the beginning planning to buy the Asus N76VZ (wich i bought , but the screen was terrible on it, so i returned it!) but that computer had a very potent 650 DDR3 card, and now I ended up with two DDR5 cards for the same price!

Thank you Calibre

 

is there a 17" SLI version of this laptop?

 

only 14" and 15"

 

aw, thats a bit of a shame 15.4 is good and all but keeping the design slim-ish and yet moving larger they could fit 2 x 770's
in there, put even more speakers or more watts and go for 120hz and some other bits n bobs

 

How does the 650m sli version handle games like starcraft 2 and command and conquer?

 

lol you don't want to play an RTS on a 14 inch screen at least not multiplayer IMO.

 

You should be fine at native resolution with starcraft 2, at High or Ultra settings.

The most comprehensive single image I found on game benchmarks is here, from the LowYat forums ( thread)

 

I play sc2 on ultra with no issues on 650 sli

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Is this the only version of the Y500 available at BestBuy?

Lenovo Y500 - 59359554 y500&cp=1&lp=15

 

i recommand you to.750M SLI should be a big difference

 

Yes but I don't see it at BestBuy yet. I have to purchase from BB because I have a gift card from there.

 

You may just have to wait until they get it. Fulfillment from Lenovo is out in early May already.

 

I'm leaving the US on May 22nd, you think it'll be available at BB before then?

 

Do you all think its worthit to wait for haswell refresh it comes out june 2nd will the prices be more expensive?

 

I doubt it will get more expensive. To me, it's already overpriced because of the 6 month delay. I still have an open order with Amazon in hopes they change the model to include the new processor. If not, I'll be returning it until there's either a sale or the new one releases

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Nope. Don't bother waiting for Haswell. It is irrelevant for Lenovo Y400 / Y500 owners.

Here is why:

1) Haswell offers lower power consumption. This will benefit something like a super-slim ultrabook, where CPU power consumption is a decent portion of the laptop's overall power draw. On a Lenovo Y400 / Y500, the CPU power consumption is almost inconsequential because of the high power draw of the other components in the system (large, high-res display, 2x GPUs in SLI that are always on).

2) Haswell offers better integrated graphics performance. This is irrelevant for a Lenovo Y400 / Y500 owner, because the entire reason we buy this model of laptop is because of its ability to support 2x GeForce 650M / 750M GPUs in an SLI configuration.

3) It will take several months for Haswell to release (especially after recently announced delays due to USB 3.0 and CPU power-state bugs), and then several additional months after that for laptops to start appearing with Haswell-based CPUs in them.


If you're considering buying a Lenovo Y400 / Y500, do not delay your buying decision on behalf of Haswell. Haswell will be irrelevant to you.

 

Ignore my last post. I totally thought I was in a different thread

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This is what I have been thinking. If you are looking at an ultrabook or something without the dedicated GPU then I would say to wait since you would be using the integrated GPU. But if you are buying a computer with a dedicated GPU then wouldn't you be gaming with that? Also like posted above, in this configuration it doesn't mater what the integrated GPU is, its going to be locked out. Now as far as CPU power in the Haswell, I am not sure what the gains are over the i7 in these laptops. So in the specific case of the Y400 and Y500, you are really basing the purchase over the dedicated GPU, which the 750M is the newest. If you are looking at an Optimus laptop, I would say you could wait because you will be able to game better on the Haswell GPU is you are looking at battery life.

 

Just purchased model 59371969(the 12GB version) and submitted an RMA for my original purchase. If you use the code SLICKDEALY500, you can get it for $931 after taxes. Best deal I've seen so far.

 

gah, it seems Lenovo has no plans to bring the 750m models to Europe. Because shipping it back to the US for repairs would be painfully expensive, I might have to settle for the 650m. How does an OC'ed 650 perform compared to an OC'ed 750?

 

Source....?

 

amazon uk. on the comments section of the Y500 two users wrote only 10 days ago, I quote:
"I've been looking on the Lenovo forums for a while now, getting info about this laptop. And the U.S models now come with the GT750M (and can still run SLI). I contacted Lenovo, who rather shockingly, have said that currently they have no plans to release that model here. But I reckon they just want to shift existing stock first. May well be worth waiting a few weeks and seeing what happens."
"Yep, they said the same thing to me and I couldn't wait so took the plunge anyway."

of course, this might just be a sales rep cookiecutter answer they will give up to the day before the refreshed version shows up for sale, but it's still discouraging. It is also more information than I managed to get in Italy after multiple phonecalls and an email. Lenovo reps here don't have a clue, not even knowing which of their "recommended dealers" sells to private consumers and which only sells to companies. The ideapad brand itself is extremely niche here. It's unbelievably frustrating and I am inches away from getting a Chronos 7 despite its inferior 8870m graphics and higher pricetag.

 

It makes no sense for them to not release the newer model...unless they plan to discontinue it in your area. It probably costs them more to purchase smaller quantities of an inferior part than to just buy bigger quantities of the newer part. Plus they have to continue stocking the old models and risk supply issues and loss to competition. I'm sure when they run out or refit the existing stock, you'll see the newer models.

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