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    JUST purchased a Lenovo Y500, bad timing?

    Discussion in 'Lenovo' started by aaznblue, Apr 1, 2013.

  1. CampBellOng

    CampBellOng Notebook Enthusiast

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    Is it worth to upgrade to Lenovo Y500 dual GT750M SLI from Dell Inspiron 15R SE 7520 full hd?
     
  2. Derek712

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    I have found this website to be a pretty reliable tool to view how well video cards play games. http://www.notebookcheck.net/Computer-Games-on-Laptop-Graphic-Cards.13849.0.html
    In short, yes, the single card will play the games you want.

    As for the ssd, you can either buy the ultrabay adapter and ssd or just buy an msata ssd to replace the 16gb cache drive. I went the msata ssd route to free up the ultrabay. You can also replace the spinning disk drive with a ssd. If you go the msata route, you might as well get the model without a cache drive. The bay is still available to add one, if you decide not to get one at first.

    I would never get a second battery for this laptop. 3 hours is usually enough for me and you can stretch it to 4 if you lower the brightness and settings. You really can't play games on the battery because the graphics get throttled so badly, but that's the case with all laptops. For long term couch internet sessions, I just use a $200 Chromebook.
     
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    the monitor in this will overclock to 95hz apparently
     
  4. FSU Logan

    FSU Logan Notebook Evangelist

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    How do you do that? Can you even see a difference?
     
  5. xinawesome

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    Maybe not. I was actually deciding between the two but I went for Y500 instead. I think it's too much work if you already have the 15R. I'm upgrading from my 2008 Toshiba which can't run TF2 on the lowest setting, I didn't even think to try SC2...
     
  6. xinawesome

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    Thanks for the reply. I got the non-cache drive one I might go with the msata ssd then since I kinda want to keep the DVD drive. You are right may be a second battery isn't necessary. What msata will fit inside Y500?Will this work?
    http://www.amazon.com/Crucial-256GB...?ie=UTF8&qid=1367948097&sr=8-1&keywords=msata
    Will they know if I add the msata then remove it before I send it to repair? Thank you!
     
  7. FSU Logan

    FSU Logan Notebook Evangelist

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    The regular mSATA SSD? lol.

    And how would we know? If you it looks like it hasn't been altered, then they probably wouldn't know.
     
  8. phill1978

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    of course theres a difference at 95hz its not too far away from a 120hz monitor which is great for twitch shooters such as counter strike. It will also reduce the perceived ghosting and make moving the mouse and desktop windows feel much more fluid (did you ever see a 60hz TV vs a 100hz ?)

    ( if you can run games near that fps) its nice to know its easy to achieve and perhaps you would want to stick with a lower value such as 75 - 85hz which is a nice little boost . Of course there may be a chance the panel life will be less but many people run monitors faster than stock recently as there is now the tools to do this on AMD and Nvidia.

    Its easy with the Nvidia solution: Custom Resolution Utility (CRU)

    it would seem desktop monitors might overclock less so a 60hz usually can achieve 75hz and smaller res monitors seem to be able to go a bit higher near 80hz, but for some reason laptop screens seem to clock higher into the 90's
     
  9. xinawesome

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    It says "CT256M4SSD3" I thought it was the msata SSD everbody else used.
     
  10. CampBellOng

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    I was think of returning the dell as it is still under the warranty policy :) So I wondering is the Lenovo Y500 is a better pick than the dell Inspiron 15R SE 7520/Turbo
     
  11. Derek712

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    I always read the human eye can't discern framerates higher than 60Hz(60 fps). The only reason you can notice a difference in 120Hz and 240Hz televisions over 60Hz is because it's evenly divisible by the native framerate of most older TV shows, which is 24fps. Games and other computer programs don't have that problem though because the framerate is usually variable, i.e. it adjusts to the ability of your graphics card. I could be wrong and I'm not saying you are either. I'm just putting up what I've read before. I'll probably try out your tweak and "see" for myself. :)
     
  12. Derek712

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    That's the one I bought. If you remove the cache drive, Windows will not boot on the spinning hard disk anymore. You have to reinstall it. No, Lenovo won't care that you replace your drive. It doesn't void the warranty or anything. Just don't replace the other components. If you use your msata as a boot drive and remove it, Lenovo won't be able to boot your computer and test it unless they have their own boot drive. Knowing them, they probably do so I wouldn't worry.
     
  13. gravybutt88

    gravybutt88 Notebook Guru

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    Just got mine a few hours ago (sli model). Been playing around with it for a little while. I love the keyboard and the screen. Hate the mouse. Weight is fine.

    Im downloading Tomb Raider and Bioshock infinite. Wont be able to play them until sometime tomorrow evening though.

    If they dont handle them two games good, and fail to handle BF3 (wont download that till the weekend) good, then I will prolly return it. We will see though.
     
  14. Character Zero

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    On Tomb Raider the Nvidia Experience optimization settings with Motion Blur Off, gives me an average of around 70 FPS on the benchmark. If I overclock I got 70 FPS average on the benchmark. I was able to up the setting on OC, except the hair, and get above 60FPS average.
     
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    What settings were you using? I could barely avg 20 fps w motion blur off, 8x, low shadows normal hair, and ultra everything else
     
  16. Character Zero

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    So I am also at 768p since I have the Y400. So at 1080p the settings might have to be dialed down a bit. But download the Nvidia Experience app. For most of my games the optimized settings work well, sometimes I have to add some tweaks, but for Tomb Raider the were pretty much spot on. Also that app will notify you of driver updates, so its a pretty good app to have.
     
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    Alright awesome. Thanks!
     
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    Can somebody with mSATA post Windows boot time, so we can see difference between mSATA 16gb + 750Gb drive and various SSD solutions? Is it worth upgrading?

    Another thing - will mSATA SSD from various makers fit inside nicely - are all mSATA aprox.same size, is there enough space?
     
  19. FSU Logan

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    mSATA SSDs are basically at par of 2.5" SSDs (traditional). The Plextor M5M mSATA SSD is only slightly below the Samsung 840 Pro (very popular SSD) and is cheaper. A 256GB mSATA SSD will cost you about $200 and will SIGNIFICANTLY reduce boot-up times.

    I know this was general knowledge but I hope it helps.

    Oh, by the way, the mSATA's are given a size (just like the traditional SSDs are 2.5") so I'd assume yes, they should all fit.
     
  20. Derek712

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    14 second boot time with my crucial 256gb msata

    Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk 2
     
  21. AriStar

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    Pick up the crucial m4 msata SSD. Toms reviewed it to be the best between many tested. Boot times will be under 15 seconds.
     
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    First up, great thread guys. Very informative. I'm from Germany and was just about to buy the 650m-SLI-version when I read about the 750m-upgrades. I haven't found these available over here yet, and a quick call with the Lenovo-Shop didn't help either. I have now written a Mail asking about the availability of the 750er. I want this thing so bad, it looks awesome, I hope I'll be able to buy one soon.
     
  23. vsg28

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    Anyone who has this exact config with the 16gb mSATA cache drive, can they tell me what their boot times are like?
     
  24. gnan10

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    for me it takes 14-15 seconds though i have installed bunch of heavy softwares and games
     
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    Thanks for info logan. From my point of view 16gb mSATA is just fine with 15-16sec. boot time...
     
  26. FSU Logan

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    Absolutely no problem. Good luck.
     
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    Got mine yesterday. I absolutly love this machine. I got the single 750M instead of the SLI version and it runs on high for every game I play(not a hard core gamer). I have one issue though, when I press the "Delete" button the area around it sinks down a little and I didn't force it just the same force as I press the touchpad buttons. Does any of you have the same issue as I described? Or is that an issue at all, if not, then I can just enjoy mt new laptop instead of returning and getting a replacement stuff. Thank you all.
     
  28. FSU Logan

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    That doesn't happen for my laptop.
     
  29. xinawesome

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    It's probably a defect then. The rest of the keyboard is very nice except for that.... I have to call for return tomorrow :(.

    Also, how did you guys managed to open the back? I followed a video online but the back won't open even after I took out all the screws. I didn't force it too hard because I didn't want to break it.
     
  30. FSU Logan

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    I am getting worried about lenovo's quality control. My laptop came fine but so many people have problems.
     
  31. xinawesome

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    Yeah, I think once you get a good unit you don't have to worry too much. I've see a lot of quality issues with hp and dell :).
     
  32. Derek712

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    Just got my SLI unit after returning my single unit. Very impressed with the improvement. Skyrim pegs 60fps consistently with Ultra settings(I keep shadows at High though). I notice a little more noise with the extra fan but all in all I'm very happy. I personally was getting annoyed with the DVD player on the single card model because it kept accidentally opening when I picked up the unit on the sides. I could have had a defect though. The heat seems to be about the same as the single model for normal lap use. I'll try gaming with it on my lap later today.
     
  33. FSU Logan

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    Remember the simple rules for laptop cooling:

    ELEVATE
    COOL ENVIRONMENT
    COOLING PAD

    Wooooo!
     
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    their quality control is very bad indeed. I ordered mine on 4/16/2013, got my laptop but Im still waiting on my dvd drive. They keep pushing the shipping date back and they keep doing their pre funds check on my account and its getting real bad. It seems to be, either they have so many units going out the door, or their doing a poor a** job, that their quality control is suffering. Either way its unacceptable, I was reading on many form pages and praying when mine got shipped that nothing was wrong.
     
  35. xinawesome

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    I just returned mine. The replacement is on its way. I hope that it will have no QC issues. If that one fails again I'll probably have to ditch lenovo for something else...
     
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    Does anyone know when places like Amazon are supposed to get the 750m SLI laptops?

    Lenovo pushed back my delivery date by 3 weeks, and I'm leaving for the summer a few days before the new delivery date. Can I call them and ask for a rushed manufacture and shipping?
     
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    My God, I'm in the same boat. I'm leaving the US in exactly 7 days and Best Buy still doesn't stock the 750 version (I gotta buy it from Best Buy because I have a gift certificate.). As of today, they do not even have the Y500 in stock anymore. :(((
     
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    Well, you can certainly try. Explain your situation to Lenovo, and see if they can help you, or else you'll have to cancel your order.

    If you do need to cancel your order, and decide that you absolutely need to have laptop in-hand (as in, must-have; not a nice-to-have before you left), then you can always buy a pre-configured system off of Amazon. Get next-day shipping, and have a dual 650M model Y500 laptop in-hand by Friday 17 May 2013. If you have Amazon Prime, next-day shipping will cost you $4.
     
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    I called Lenovo and told them a bull story how I was going on vacation for a month and I ended up getting the laptop two business days later lmfao.
     
  40. gnan10

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    Amazon has stock of dual 750ms for 1100$ with 16gigs ssd and 12 gigs ram

    Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk 4 Beta
     
  41. Derek712

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    Be careful. It says 650M everywhere else on that page. They probably just didn't update the rest through
     
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    NIce. In hindsight I should've done that as it took me 2 months from the time I ordered my Y500 to when I actually got a working unit and started using it due to returns and replacements and their slow-*** turnaround time.
     
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    I'm tempted to buy the Y500 from Amazon, but it says 650m when I click on Product Details.

    I called Amazon and asked about the 750m SLI... the rep wasn't too knowledgeable about the Y500. He just looked at lenovo.com and told me that lenovo was selling 750m's on their site, so he thought that the Amazon ones would also have the 750m. I'm hoping someone else knows if Amazon has the new laptops yet...
     
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    Correct. The way to verify is to look at the Item Model Number = 59359554 under the extended product description. Lenovo assigns individual Item Model Numbers for each configuration possibility of their laptops. So you can look up that Item Model Number, and verify exactly what the configuration is. And in the case of the Lenovo Y500s currently on Amazon.com, they are all still using the GeForce 650M GPU, despite what the "brief" product description at the top of the page says.

    Yes, Amazon reps will not know the details of the individual products they sell. They will only have as much information as what you also have access to on their website.

    Amazon.com is VERY good about keeping their product listings updated, as well as estimated inventory and shipping status. That type of inventory and shipping accuracy is one of the big competitive advantages of Amazon. So if you see it on their website, order it. If you don't see it on their website, then calling a sales representative on the phone won't help. That person will not have "secret inside knowledge" of what might be sitting in the warehouse.
     
  45. Derek712

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    Amazon is also very good at giving 100 percent returns for wrong description, if you wanted to chance it. I returned an open laptop due to a bad description and they paid the shipping return. No restocking fee. I am a long term prime customer so I don't know if that had influence
     
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    Has anyone picked up crucial's new m500 series ssd?
     
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    They are indeed, I just got my razer deathadder 2013 edition and it died after 1 day, they paid for the return shipping and are sending me a replacement at no extra cost. Try getting that from razer support or any other company at that.
     
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    I wouldn't hold my breath. I've had the ultra bay dvd drive on order for 2 months and counting and they still keep pushing the ship date back. I would put money on it that they have dvd drives for laptop orders but not single orders. Seems to be that their supply is very scarce. They can't keep up with orders.
     
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