Lenovo IdeaPad Y410P Owners and Information thread

Yeah. 6th Generation is awesome. Better battery efficiency more performance.

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Well yeah the 960M is superior, people forget this laptop is pretty much 3 years old.

I'd buy myself a new laptop at this point but when the canadian dollar is only a mere 68 cents US you gotta make some compromises....

 

Well i didn't think GTX 960M will be better than 755M SLI but oh well! It's all still Lappy GPU.

GTX 960M = GTX 750 Ti (Desktop).

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Been a while since i've checked out this thread. Happy to report i'm still really pleased with my y410p running gt755m in SLI. Able to run The Witcher 3 at 1366x768 on +HBAO with AA off and high settings for everything except Hairworks turned off and foliage distance on medium and medium shadows. I'm keeping the framerate limiter off as well and FPS runs between 40-70 depending on environment. No other game i've thrown at it has been this graphically intensive so most other games are usually running at high to ultra settings based on demand.

 

Question: Has anyone done any big driver updates after upgrading to Windows 10 within the past year?

If so where are you downloading this from? My guess would be the Lenovo y410p webpage. Thanks in advance for your advice!!

 

Quick question, are you using a modified 755M5 or an actual 755M4 for SLI? Just curious.

As for drivers, I'd recommend using all the Windows 10 drivers on the y410p page with the exception of the Realtek Audio driver. For that I'd use the Windows 8.1 drivers on the y400 page, and then installing Dolby Home V4 over that for the best audio drivers. Just an aside, I haven't used Windows 10 since December.

 

I just let Windows 10 handle the driver updates. Either they show up in Windows Update or I use device manager to check for them.

 

I'm using the 755m ultrabay designed for the y510p which is what i would guess you're referring to by 755m5.

 

Thanks for the advice gents!!

 

Yep that's exactly what I meant by the 755m5. I was curious as to whether or not you had a 755m4 because they are so rare outside of southeast Asia. I just got lucky when I found mines: http://tinyurl.com/z3n6m76

 

Finally took the plunge and installed Windows 10. Took a good 3 hours as it wasn't a clean install but an update. Messages so far are Veriface and Intel WiDi have been removed. Some weird behaviour with Energy Management in Win 10 as well.

 

So I got a bit of a dilemna... my son, 2, kicked my laptop off my bed. Of cousre it landed on the corner. Busted the bottom cover, corner piece has since completely snapped off, and the pillar that holds the screw, that is the anchor for the lid hinge is busted. I've thrown in a temp screw to help facilitate opening and closing the lid but the whole thing is slowly getting more loose.

I'm not worried about replacing the back cover, I've had that off several times already and I've already replaced the LCD screen. I am a little worried I am going to have to replace the top cover in order to replace the broken pillar to secure the lid hinge. I'm not sure If that comes off as easy as the bottom cover and I don't want to screw up the action on the keyboard, which after almost 3 yrs is still fantastic

I really like this laptop and would luv to hear any thoughts on possible suggestions to help with the hinge.

Thx!

 

I recommend just scouring eBay for any replacement parts you need. Just search "Lenovo y400" and you should be able to find anything you need, from bottom covers, to palm rests, to screen housing. Finding the part that has the hinges is just as easy.

P.S. - My response was so general because I can't see your pics.

 

Thx for the reply LanceAvion. Yea, sorry about the pics. Not sure why they don't show up, I tried using a FB link, which obviously didn't work, and unfortunately, I don't have 5 posts, so I can't just add 'em.

Found what I would need on ebay, the top cover "Palmrest" but I'm still curious about replacing it. I've replaced the LCD screen and had the back cover off a couple times now but never had to remove anything 'essential.' I am curious if I am going to be re-attaching the motherboard or other parts if I do the top cover as well...

 

you need to remove the motherboard because it is attached to the frame with the palm rest.

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Yep what angel said.
Fortunately for you Lenovo has official assembly and disasembly videos of the y400 (which again is identical the y410p physically).
Unfortunately those videos were removed from YouTube.
Fortunately I found the videos deep on Lenovo's site, downloaded and then reuploaded them.

Enjoy

 

Thanks guys! Especially the links for the video. That's all I really need to feel comfortable attacking this job

 

sorry i was wrong. i just remembered after taking out the keyboard you can take out the palm rest, the motherboard is attached to the middle frame.

bottom cover>wires/ribbons/screws>keyboard>top cover with palm rest

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Haven't watched the full video yet but that sounds even Better!

just in case your still curious, lets try a coupl links instead of pics:
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10207851694643343&l=5c4260f190

this one the laptop is upside down so you can see the temp screw I wedged into the busted pillar just so I can temporarily open the cover without pulling everything apart...
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10207851719003952&l=ee4d7e2870

 

In case you were wondering, the surgery was a success!

Seriously though, thx for the videos and advice, definitely would not have made it without em. While the back panel was simple, the front palmrest was way more tricky. Especially the touchpad, which there is no info on and nearly stumped me when I was in the middle of it and had parts scattered everywhere! Desperation is the mother of invention

Basically, you don't get the touchpad circuitry with a new palmrest and the old board is like super glued to the back of the touchpad so it's a real PITA to separate. Basically I had to snap the old touchpad off the old palmrest and pry the circuitry off the touchpad with a large screwdriver. Its not easy, or pretty, but if your careful, you won't crack the board. You gotta take your time. It is doable, I'm using it now.

A couple tips for anyone else that may try to replace the top palmrest:
Its not a simple procedure - you got 3 boards that need to be removed and transferred to the new palmrest. (this doesn't include the touchpad circuit board which is a beast...)
this one is for beginners (like me): Don't try to remove the snaps that hold the cables! The cables simply slide out after you 'release/open' the snaps. Luckily, the first one I did, the keyboard light cable, was easily fixed after I broke it - gotta luv electrical tape
Be very careful when prying the touchpad circuitry off the touchpad & add some electrical tape to it. I read a post it helps and mine is actually working better than before, even after prying it off the old one with a large screwdriver

Got my 5 posts so I've added some pics.

Touchpad Circuitboard 1 by BSC249 posted May 9, 2016 at 5:27 AM

Touchpad Circuitboard 2 by BSC249 posted May 9, 2016 at 5:30 AM

Touchpad Circuitboard 3 by BSC249 posted May 9, 2016 at 5:35 AM

Touchpad Circuitboard 4 by BSC249 posted May 9, 2016 at 5:36 AM

Touchpad Circuitboard 5 by BSC249 posted May 9, 2016 at 5:39 AM

Busted Bottom Cover by BSC249 posted May 9, 2016 at 5:45 AM

 

anyone have tried this on Y410p?
http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...-intel-haswell-cpu-microcode-bug-hack.790177/

 

That's very interesting, I wasn't even aware that this was possible before you linked it. However, I don't think I'll be trying that for now. The y410p's thermal system can handle an overclocked CPU at 3.4GHz just fine, but anything much higher and I'd have an oven. If I ever do unlock it though, I'll post my results.

 

Double Post

 

i've tried this but i don't quite understand the parts that need to be deleted and also the value was found in padding of the bios

 

Good job mate, good job. Glad I could be of assistance

I see. Just scanning over the post there seems to be a lot involved. Being stumped just going by the present information is rather likely.

 

I have done the external GPU mod and I wonder if I can get a higher overclock now that the Nvidia is disabled. Its just a warm breeze coming from the exhaust port now.

 

Just ordered SSD + caddy (came to like 70$ total). Think i'll use the lappy for another 2 years due to a new one probably costing me 1200$ at this point.

Also even though my temps arent too high, i woudln't even try to overclock this laptop.

 

Check your temps, they're probably pretty good give that the GPU is disabled.

Either that SSD is super cheap, tiny, or both lol

 

Well it's a measly 120gb sandisk SSDPlus i got on sale for 50$ CAD @ local bestbuy (~39USD). Just need an OS drive for Windows 10. Will put the 24GB cache drive as my Debian drive.

If anyone here wants a full Debian guide for this laptop just let me know, ive gotten all of the hardware to work save for custom things like ideafan/throttlestop though i use my Windows partition to game

Aint no Thinkpad but runs pretty good if you install the proprietary bits.

 

Wait, if this SSD is going to be in the caddy, what about the internal 2.5" port? Is the HDD there? If so, why not put the SSD in that port, and the HDD in the caddy? If I remember correctly the caddy only runs at SATA 2 so you'll lose speed from your SSD.

 

caddy runs at Sata 3 speeds (pic credit of techinferno)


also i have a stripped screw which basically prevents me from opening up my laptop again



also is there a way to turn the light off the caddy? It's oddly bright and i hope it doesn't drain the battery too much.

 

mine only runs at sata2(3Gb/s)

yeah, my caddy also have bright blue led

 

Mine runs at 6GBPS even when in the ultrabay caddy. Reason being the ports themselves are SATA III, however the 1TB drive itself that comes with the laptop is SATA II.

Also im running the older 1.07 BIOS.

 

that's clears up. btw that is modded 3.05 bios.

 

Well you learn something new everyday. Cool so now I know that when I finally retire SLI in this machine I can slap another SSD in the caddy and get full SATA III speeds. The y400/410p has remained useful to me for way longer than I expected. My next computer down the line will probably be a powerful gaming desktop, but even then I'll probably keep my y410p as my laptop.

As for the caddy light, I haven't found a way to disable it. If it bothers you that much I suppose you could just cover it with black electrical tape, or try removing it if battery life is a concern.

Speaking of batteries, does anyone else have the large 9 cell battery for their y410p? It has a very annoying property, in that it doesn't allow the laptop to open to as wide an angle as it can without it. Normally the laptop can open to 140+ degrees, but with the 9 cell battery it's limited to 100-110 degrees which really hurt ergonomics. All that's to say, does anyone know of a 9 cell battery with a groove in it so the laptop can open further? If it was anything besides a battery I'd attempt to make my own grove in it.

Oh and as for your stripped screw try this: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000JCT3W0/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1. I was able to remove a completely stripped screw from my Wi-Fi card with these tools, so they should work for you.

 

Mine is still going strong. Upgraded to Win 10 as well.

 

10 runs well but i went back to 8.1 for the battery life.

 

anyone tried an EGPU with the y410p?

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Plenty have been using Gerald's adaptor from TechInferno.

 

wow. didnt know we had this! thanks for the link!

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Interesting - Mine is running a bit slower now.

 

So when i bought mine, it came with a 48w/h battery. Was able to get 4hours on it initially, now im down to about 2.5 due to battery wear and intensive use over 3.5 years.

I'm considering a new battery, it's 72$ CAD for a 72w/h. Owners of the 72w/h, how much battery life are you/were you getting just doing light tasks?

(i dont game or do anything intensive on the battery)

Else i'll just save the money for a new laptop. Planning on using this one till it dies. Fingers crossed but it has served me well over the past 3.5 years.

 

I have 4 batteries for my y410p, a 48w/h, 62 w/h, 72 w/h, and a 9 cell 84 w/h respectively. Funny thing is I've never done any battery tests on my laptop and at this point there's probably a good amount wear on them. I'll try to run some tests for you and post the results.

EDIT: Turns out I don't have a 48w/h battery, it's a second 72 w/h one.

 

9 Cell? Pics please! I assume it's not OEM either... Does it protrude on the bottom?

EDIT: http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/lenovo-y410p-custom-upgrade-paint.782791/

7.5 hours with the 9 cell?

 

Just me or the y410p aged better than the y40, which was released over a year later?
Y40 pros:
-FHD (but still TN)
-Dual Band AC Wifi stock on all models (early Y410p's have the Single Band 2230 N)
-Thinner (but not lighter)

Y410p pros:
- 48/62/72w/h *Removable* battery (thus, even without a ULV cpu, gets better/same battery life with the 72, and can be replaced!)
- Quad core (con: runs hotter)
- GeForce 750m/755m outperforms the Radeon M275x, SLI/eGPU just destroys it
- Ultrabay (DVD/Blu-Ray/Extra 2.5" bay/SLI/eGPU)
- Backlit keyboard
- Cheaper for Canadians at the time because the CAD crashed

 

Lol looks like you found the 9 cell. To confirm what you see there, yes it's 3rd party and yes it protrudes from the bottom. The most unfortunate thing about the 9 cell imo is that you can't have the laptop's screen as far back as you can without it (it opens to about a ~95 degree angle or so compared to ~130 degrees). Now is the increased battery life worth it? I'll be giving you my results soon so you can better decide

It really has. Ironically I made the point that the y400 was better than the y410p and y40 respectively a long time ago haha. One point I made about the y400 back then still stands however, easy to get native SLI here in NA. The GN35 650m ultrabay for the y400 was available from Lenovo directly for a lonnng time and was even cheaper via 3rd party means (how I got mines). The 755m4 unfortunately was never released here in the west for some reason, and I don't even think that a 750m4 exists. I got lucky when I found my 755m4, but most people had to jerry-rig a 750/755m5, which sucks (did that for a while with the GN36 from the y500 in my y400).

Spoiler: 755m4

All that being said, I still agree with you. These machines were great deals back at release and they're still going strong. I can play pretty much any modern game I want, I have huge amounts of potential storage with 3 drive bays, I have a blu ray drive if I ever need to use it (or if Windows ever gets a decent blue ray player), and should I even mention productively? This thing is overkill for daily tasks and student workloads. The weakest aspect of this machine is obviously the screen, but after replacing the original glossy screen with this matte one I can deal with it.

When my y410p gets to the end of its life I'll have to give it a proper burial haha.

 

Gerald has more ultrabay egpu adapters for sale on ebay now

 

i'm just wondering why are there no feedback from previous buyers of the adapter? i'm interested but i dont want to go and buy a GPU and find out its not fully working. on the adapter

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There's discussion

I think it's a little strange too that no one who bought it left any feedback on ebay. The discussion of the adapter seems to be going on over at techinferno.

Someone made a video who has gotten it working though

It only works with amd cards, probably because of a whitelist, you need a psu to power the card, and bios version 2.04 or 2.07.

 

Lots of testing have been going on with the adapters, I want to pick one up but its not a good time for me presently I definitely plan to get one though.