Lenovo Legion Y740 17" 15"

Cool. Did you notice any difference in test etc? Speedwise 2666cl19 is very similar to 2133cl15 while 2666cl15 about equals running ram 500MHz faster. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/CAS_latency that will probably give quite a bit more fps in games at lower quality settings that are not gpu-bound.

 

What are some good CL15 Modules 32 GB or Greater if they improve the bios.

 

You can't go beyond 32gb in the y740...

There about 4 kits out there.

Crucial Ballistix this is CL16
Kingston HyperX - CL15
Gskill - CL15 I believe
Corsair Dominator ... I don't remember hearing much about these.

 

2060 is the gpu


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That is what concerns me. 2060 is the highest I've seen loaded onto this 9th gen systems.

Also hearing the 300 nit panel only supports Dolby Vision HDR when streaming content.

Definitely worth a call on Monday.

 

For everyone bothered by idle nose, I believe I have found a solution, it's been working for me so far.

Use fn+Q or ctrl+shift+1 to set the fans to max and then press it again to turn it off.
That seems to somehow reset the fan and it should idle at a lower speed from then on.

I've been trying this for a few days now and my fans will stay low all day until I do something intensive enough to ramp them up.

I may still play around with hacking control at some point but this is a much easier workaround. It also makes me wonder if maybe it's s bug Lenovo could patch in a bios update. Oh well.

 

Hello zoneykid,

my heart beated up a bit when i read your post. Thank you for your effort and nice that you found this little "hint / bug".
As it seems that you are also a more sound sensitive man. What was your impression at night with this "lower speed fans"?

Today my delivery time has been reduced from early may to 23th april.
As soon as i get my unit i will assist you in modifying the fan control script.
It must be possible in any way to say / IF cpu and/or gpu temp is below 50°C set fan speed to 0 RPM.

If we get that it would be the perfect gaming notebook.

 

Just got notice from Lenovo that my custom Y740 15” has shipped from their warehouse. Arrival might just be before the weekend.

That is some mighty good news!

Ordered very first part of March.

Hang in there and keep the faith, those of the Legion who are still waiting!

Cheers!

 

You can get that with clevo laptops. My pb71 has a custom fan curve.

 

Lenovo is refreshing the Y540 and Y740 with i7-9750h launch in May. From the article, in addition to GTX 1650/1660, looks like Lenovo will be offering the 2080 RTX as a continued option with the 9th Gen chipset!

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Lenov...0H-and-GTX-1650-1660-Ti-options.418250.0.html

 

Your really not missing much... they still haven't said anything about the screens.

Side note my order has been pushed to the 30th, they say it's supposed to ship and be delivered the same day so delivery is inflated somehow unless they have an area near my location.

 

"At the most premium end is the Legion Y740, which Lenovo is upgrading with options for a RTX 2080 Max-Q or a lesser GTX 1660 Ti and up to 32GB of DDR4-2666 RAM. It’s available with 15-inch and 17-inch G-Sync displays with FHD resolution (1920x1080) and a 144Hz refresh rate. Both display sizes support Dolby Vision HDR, 4K resolution, and can reach up to an impressive 500 nits of brightness, according to Lenovo.

Those 500 nits should be a welcome upgrade to the current model of the Legion Y740, which we found to be limited by its sub-par brightness (just 112 nits in our tests)."

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/lenovo-legion-gaming-laptops-intel-9th-gen,39121.html

 

I hope I’m wrong. But when I read it earlier (while on the phone to Lenovo for my order on hold) I read it as upto 2080 mq which also includes 17” models. I hope I’m wrong tho cos if they have some sort of sale I’m going to send mine back and go 9th gen and pair it with a 2080 (unless the upgrade option is far too much)

While I was on the phone to Lenovo rather than wanting to give me a discount or any kind of good will. They kept insisting that the only option was to cancel my order regardless how long and patiently I have waited. I think this terrible. I wasnt rude or had my voice raised or anything like that. Had I not got 15% discount I’d of cancelled my order weeks ago. Since it’s been the 8th of March, and it now says the 30th of April coming down from 7 of May. But I’m really not hopeful.
Waiting just buys me time to see how 9th gen does and in the uk the y740 is pulled so I can’t reorder if I changed my mind to want to stick to the model. their still isn’t any other laptop I want ahead of the y740 too. So my hand is forced to wait.
Disappointment is an understatement with Lenovo in regards to loyalty.
I can’t fault their warranty from experience but that was about 9yrs a go. Can’t speak for now though.


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You can't expect Lenovo to intentionally allow you to wait to see whether the product you think you want is going to happen. I'm not necessarily a fan of the situation either but there was no way Lenovo was gonna let that happen. With a ship date of April 30th, the middle management probably made it very clear what needed to happen.

As far as waiting only really holding out for the 500nit screen, 4k is real overkill there, but could probably run the panel at 1440p but that would still eat up battery. Did they note if the battery size was gonna improve? If not then, then that is already not a good sign.

 

Huh, did they they have one of the January test models?

Also the 1ms response time.

guess that's only the new 500 nit panel.

 

Let's just hope Lenovo will be offering that 4K/500nits screen option in the Y740 refresh model. I'm glad I cancelled my order to wait on this ..def. going for a 17", i7-9750h with RTX 2080 Max-q.

 

I think you misreading what I meant. I never meant for you to read about Lenovo allowing me time to see if another will happen, I’m saying with they way things are working out with delays, it gives me time to see what happens because you get 2-4 weeks return depending on policy. If I had it already then I couldn’t do that.



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Well theirs is thirty days no questions asked last I checked.

 

I had the same thought as you did. I was going to keep my original Y740 17" order with the intention to return it for the refresh model coming out in May. But to keep it simple and avoid the hassle with return shipment, I decided to just cancel it all and patiently wait.

 

I thought about it but I didn’t want to wait for a sale to come up. I figure if I have the machine hands on. At least I’ll know if it’s worth the hassle to return it and wait for discounts with potentially another long wait.
Nothing worse than realising at the end of it all it wasn’t then you return it and go for something else after all that waiting.
I’d be very surprised if they add a 2080 into the 15”. But it THEN it would be worth the wait for me because it gives me the chance to return the 8th gen one if I like the newer options better.
That will backfire on Lenovo because if we all do that. If we ain’t hit good or no discounts. There’s no reason to stick with the 8th gen order. Which means they’ll have a lot of 8th gen laptops to get rid of because they couldn’t move them out in time before 9th gen.


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Out of the blue, Lenovo shipped my cancelled RTX2060 and my new order RTX2070 models in the past 2 days. Of course because of the new releases I bet.

Definitely feels like they want to get as much of the stock out ASAP before the new models ship.

I already returned by original RTX2060 over throttling, especially on battery - as per my thread http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/gaming-on-a-laptop-while-on-battery.825363/

I'm actually a little intrigued by the little Ideapad L340 with GTX1650 - the fact it's only a 35W GPU potentially that can beat out my GTX1060 MaxQ Blade (though of course the benchmark that beats it is probably the 50W non MaxQ version): https://www.notebookcheck.net/Budge...-with-GTX-1650-graphics-for-869.418254.0.html

And with OEM throttling - you never know till you get the actual system. Who knows, I may just stick with my Razer Blade 15 Base since it was only $1240 USD+tax last month even if it is only a GTX1060 MaxQ. It's so much lighter than the Y740, especially considering the power cable/brick size. Really wish they'd just a model with GTX1660Ti instead of going even more premium with the Base model. But that's Razer for you...

Peter

 

Yea... With these latest GPUs, you get HUGE variation depending on the laptop it's in. I am sure that some 1650s will beat a 1060mq, but others will fall FAR behind it.

 

curious if the battery is still the same...

 

It's quiet enough where from my bed I can no longer discern it from other ambient noises (currently a 3.5" drive dock and my old laptop running as a NAS), definitely improved since I first posted about it.
One thing I'm not sure about is whether my undervolt (-165.0 mV) is also contributing to this, I don't believe it is but just in case I am testing it without the undervolt applied, so far with basic browsing, youtubing, and whatnot the fans are not ramping up at all from the quiet idle I've found.

Hearing about the new CPU refresh and all the sales going on makes me a little sad that I didn't wait a little longer, but laptops are pretty much constantly in flux so it's hard to predict.
I do plan to get an eGPU in a year or two anyway, so that helps nullify some sadness lol

 

If you are getting a 1080p laptop with at least a 2060 now, I don’t see why you’d need an eGPU.

 

Own or Disown did a review of a 9th Gen laptop. Its fractionally better under optimal conditions.

So it's not that big a stress for those concerned about the possible late May refresh.

 

Hm. So now the 15” with 2070 that I ordered stock 10 days ago has shipped, and the 17” 2060 I ordered March 15 is set to ship next week. I called to complain that the coupon code for $100 off I got when I bought the 17” wasn’t accepted on my order of the 15”, they informed me it was, but promptly knocked off another $100 just because. That brings it down to $1400 for the 15”, 2070 256/1tb model. I can’t complain.

 

also, maybe y’all can clear this up. I read an article comparing the two, and it said they both have the same speakers, 2 mains and 1 sub. They also told me that on the phone. But in images of the tear downs I don’t see the sub on the 15”. Is it there or not?

 

I think the speakers are the same between the Y740 15" and 17", however, only the 17" has a subwoofer. Located near one of the large fans.

 

"Their volume is good, reaching a measured 82.14 dB, and the shape of the audio is average or better across most of the spectrum, with the sole exception of the low frequencies, where the lack of a subwoofer hurts performance."

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Lenov...0H-RTX-2070-Max-Q-Laptop-Review.413926.0.html

 

Damn, misinformation!

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wi...n-y740-15-vs-y740-17-which-should-you-buy?amp

“Audio systems are also the same on both laptops. There are two down-firing speakers near the front — actually installed on the tapering portion — and an extra subwoofer near the back for a bit of extra oomph. Sound quality isn't bad on either laptop, but because everything is firing down, no one will blame you if you plug in a gaming headset.”

And the sales guy told me both were the same including subwoofer! Well, that’s why I bought one of each. Guess the 15” will go up for eBay.

 

Anyone noticing some different behaviour with their RTX 2060 card today? Updated to the newest driver last night and always check the clocks because sometimes it will stick to low clock speeds. However today it seems to be varying a fair bit which is good.
However, the boost is going way beyond stock boost parameters up to a recorded 1595. This is stock. The laptop RTX 2060 is supposed to boost to 1200 while the desktop can top out at 1620. Strange behaviour but good this time!

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Why eBay? ..unless you're beyond Lenovo's return policy.

 

They’ll charge a 15% restocking fee. Plus with all the discounts I got I’m sure I can squeeze a couple hundred profit off of it. There’s not a single us lenovo y740 on eBay now, I’d imagine someone will bite.

 

Interesting read for best gaming laptops ..Lenovo didn't make the cut.
https://www.pcworld.com/article/3232986/best-gaming-laptops.html

 

That article must be an old one they slapped a new date (probably because they updated the intro) on as it's still mentioning the laptops with GTX 1070s and GTX 1080s. Also The Lenovo Y740 beats out the Dell G7 any day. After some research I was think of getting the G7, but the Levono is much better. It's cooling system alone is much superior, and the G7 comes with a power brick that bottle necks the CPU (and it still over heats). Y740 has per key lightning to the G7's 4 zone lighting. Also comparing youtube reviews of both, the Levono gets far more praise, and justifiably so.

 

And the speakers are much better, the fans quiter, the screen is 144 and 3ms. And it’s cheaper. No brainer.

 

Odd considering I saw two more reviews over the last couple of days that had high marks with the only downside being the piddly battery life.

 

Really? I thought there was a 30-day no-hassle return window. Planning on trialing my current order and maybe returning it for the refresh.

https://www.lenovo.com/ca/en/shopping-faq/#returns

According to this, it should be fine.

 

Don’t have either the G7 or Y740 but one win for the G7 is that it can be configured with the larger 90 watt battery. Keyboard has also been noted to be a bit disappointing on the Lenovo so the G7 might be better in that area.

However I think the G7 only comes with one stick of memory which is absolutely ridiculous, so games will get bottle necked. Dell may change that option with the refresh of the new processors.

 

US is same. It's cool.

 

Lenovo is known for some of the best keyboard quality for laptops - esp. their Thinkpad lineup. I have the Y720 15" with the numpad area, and i love it. Unlike Macs where the keys are low profile and loud, the Y720 keys are somewhat elevated, quiet and a solid great feel to type.

The complaints I've heard with the Y740's keyboard is not much support in the center area, causing the frame to have a slight bend-press when using the center keys. I wonder for those who are using the Y740 experienced this?

 

Look up nvidia GPU boost. It basically will ‘overclock’ the card during gaming to get to as high boost clock as possible within the power limit. You should pretty much always be at power limit. It’s surprising you didn’t previously see this behavior though.

 

In the Uk I’m reading 14 days money back guarantee. I assume you can still after then just with a “hit” unless there is a “fault” found then you can return it without the restocking charge within 30 days.


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Check out Bob of All Trades' review on youtube, i think he mentions it. I use a thinkpad laptop at work, and the keyboard is phenomenal. I think they will likely fix for the next gen Y750

 

So it sounds like Icelake has been scrapped so maybe the only 10nm will be only for the low end 35w laptops. until 2021.

So even the y750 won't have much other than the Intel GPU they are working on.

So 14nm until then.

 

https://www.ultrabookreview.com/26518-lenovo-legion-y740-review/ maybe it has been linked to previously, but interessting anyways. The take an good look at CPU-undervolt and GPU-overclock and you can see performance, temps etc in games

Has any owners here tried flatline undervolt of GPU in afterburner and see what max speed you can get? Bobofalltrades did 1320MHz at 700mv if I`m not mistaken, but I think it is possible to go a bit higher than that. On my 1070 that does 1850@1000mv for a few minutes, then gradually drops to 1600@850mv due to 70C being thermal throttle limit) I can do 1493@700mv (58% performance at 47% W). Performance (and powerconsumption) drops like a stone compared to 1750@800mv (89% performance at 71% W) and 1800@850mv (100% performance at 80% W) so on pascal that is not a good idea, but turing seems more capable of handling low voltage without the insane performancedrop when going below 800mv. I see that in some test like The Witcher 3 the 2070max-q tops out at 1380@713mv, going for 1500@700mv or maybe higher might be possible if you get access to voltage-curves on max-q in latest version of afterburner?

 

I heard they will integrate the Thinkpad's keyboard design into the Legion Y750.

Im wondering if i should wait for the Y750 (2020), or go for the Y740 with the i7-9750h. I just visited Lenovo's site, yet again they've dropped prices on the Y740s. Making way for that refresh model.

 

If it's still 14nm then the answer is no.

 

Hey there, I decided to check as well, currently using my y740 unplugged on my lap and CPU is 44 while in Chrome and fans are not moving at all (looked underneath to confirm and no blades are spinning). I know some others have messaged since but I figured I would post in as well regarding that.

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