Lenovo Legion Y740 17" 15"

You don't know who good it feels to talk to somebody about this issue.
Yes i talk like it is a worse desease, shouldn't happen something worse to me in my life, but i don't know i deal with it since 1 year and as i am a little tinker i always try to find a solution.

I cannot tell exactly if both fans are doing it but i am pretty sure they are.

I also thought its just the air going through the vents, but no the fans itself are producing it but a human ear just can hear it good when they are covered / build in the laptop.

Please take a short look at this Yoga Lenovo thread. This is the only thread you can find in the internet where someone is trying to get rid of it and he had success.
What he describes is very very similar to our problem and look at the FCN fans, nearly the same as ours.
So i still have a small hope.
Against that i don't want to open, diss- and reassembly the laptop to often.
If you see mine its 1 year old and looks like a brand new device still smells like fresh plastic.

 

I do consider (seriously) to get a hammer and smash every bit of my beloved laptop, packed it up and send it to Lenovo, to place it to a Lenovo Museum of unsatisfactory customers or something.

Seriously,one day i will and believe me i will look like a fool, the same fool i pretend to be as an owner right now...

My temps are fine.
My TEMPS are extremely fine.
I put so much effort to run this laptop heat free...
Effort...so much... time...

...Time...

Well the story goes like this...

3 hours continuous playing session.
What am i playing?
Call of Duty - Warzone.

Temps:
Unequal as always on all CPU cores 61 to 63C...
Temp of GPU Core 65C...
My temps are fine.

Cooling pad: Modded Cooler master Notepal U3 plus, with 3 Arctic 120x25 fans running 12v blowing 70cm3 x3 per hour.

THE VERY FIRST MINUTES , left palm rest area , underneath palm rest sitting the nvme drive, becomes warm.

Max fan (FnQ),fans dispose heat but the exhausts pins from the heat-sink touch the top cover chassis , part of the heat disposed to the chassis and all the top corners of the top cover comes warm.

Keyboard area...The disposed heat from cpu/gpu underneath the laptop as well as the exhaust fans as well as the nvme drive make the top cover warm.

AND guess what...
The phenomenal warm , becomes minute by minute as HOT as it likes.
So hot that doesn't burn, but you know, H O T.

and guess what...
i reopened the aluminum case for a 55th time, i managed to apply on the exhaust fins a rubberized tape and then reapplied paste on cpu and gpu and close the aluminum case all tight together like a big hot dog sandwich.

No more exhaust pins dispose the heat on these 4 corners of the top cover!!!wooohoooo.
Great right???

But then there is the nvme making a hot bath on itself and maybe there is the ram that need also care and also the cpu that disposes heat to the top cover as well on the keyboard area and also the gpu and also pch and also the mobo itself and also LENOVO that does not care about it, cause you know its a poopy laptop.

Oh yes...the best of the best poopy laptops out there and you and me ,my friend we are proud owner of it...and you know it,you deeply know it when you are holding one and play with it more than one hour...

A poopy shiny laptop that the only best of it, its the stylish external aluminum chassis and all that greatness disappears when you hit the power button...

So the best i can do next is to buy a keypad or maybe a keyboard and let my laptop under 63C internal, to be an egg-pan external while i enjoy my wins and looses from my keypad...Great ha?

This is the meaning of a laptop ha?.
You have a huge bag to carry the cooling pad + the headphones + the keyboard + the mouse + idont know what left?liquid metal syringe? in order to play 1-2 hours your favorite game...

Well i truly admire that guy of LENOVO TEAM,the mastermind of the masterminds, selling for thousands of $$...yours and mine $$...

They just push new cpus and new gpus based on previous heat-sinks architectures when new thermals disposal techniques needs their care at least...
Instead of that they making Brand new Youtube promotion videos of this 7i 5i new laptop based on last 3 years same heatsink.

Do not believe me?See the heatink of the Y730 and compare it with heatsing of y740 ... no differences just some addons to cpu-gpu cover area..

They give you a totally unbalanced product that is certified among other things to unpleasing you until your end of your days,every minute in these 24 hours...

My internal mic has no ground,hours upon hours to fix it, i bought new headphones...

One of my irl friends and also one friend here in forums have enormous problems with coil wine of fans...

What else to discuss of this GREAT GREAT LAPTOP???
aye!!! Certified bolts of the heatsink ... they almost got broken the third time a screw driver gently touch them...

They give a...same thing also to their forums.There they give you another instead of answer to your problems....

Great laptop...Great laptop...
ITS SO HOT, like FRISBEE.

Guess what? after i bought this Y740 never ever ever ever used my fireplace the cold days.

Just put your y740 on the table and have a chin chin warm to hot atmosphere...

 

Dunno what to say man... I game for hours on Warzone (currently) and it's fine. A little warm on the palms but not bad. Better than my previous Alienware 15.

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I play Warzone daily with notebook on my lap, vents covered by thighs.
Locked 90FPS, CPU max 60-68c, GPU mas 62-65C, Quite mode, Intel Turbo disabled in TS.


I am really confused by some users acting like they are completely brain dead. They blindly go and buy a notebook with desktop grade cpu and gpu and expect miracles in terms of heat dissipation, fan noise and case temps. Even cinder blocks like MSI GT series or anything similar weighing 1Ton cant keep up with average desktop with 0,5kg copper tower cooler. If some people are intentionally blind and ignorant then please don’t complain about obvious things that are known already and has been known months and maybe years ago because it is completely pointless and does not achieve anything.

Maybe be more realistic about your needs and possible solutions rather jumping and diving sea deep into parts that are not really designed to work in such cramped spaces apart from OEMs marketing dept. and accountants telling much more different story to the masses.

 

I mean I understand the frustration for some with the thermals. But guys, its a laptop. It will run hotter than a desktop anyway no matter what. I havent stressed about thermals in a while now and just having a blast playing my favorite games. And let me tell you, playing BFV for about 3 hours in a row, the CPU hitting around 85c@ 3,6Ghz all the time and the back of the laptop raised up with the powerbrick under it (not the best solution but gets the job done). The keyboard gets really hot. Like hothot.

But thats fine. Because its a laptop. Ofc the cooling is a bit crap, its all in cramped in that slim body I think this laptop gets the job done perfectly. If it gets too hot for me, I take a break ( I mean playing for 3h in a row, there should be a break). If your laptop isnt throttling, the cooling is working as intended. Its not like you can put a custom loop or a AIO on a laptop and run it as cool and silent as a desktop.

The coil whine is there for sure. But it is there for desktop variants or the gpus also.

So I dont agree with this whole "Lenovo designed it wrong" claim. In my case, the laptop is working just as it should. Perfect after tweaking.

 

Yesterday I was editing some Warzone footage captured with Shadowplay in Davinci Resolve.

Rendered one video (I am daily driving in Quiet mode and disabled Intel Turbo in TS for everything in system and games) and after that decided to leave my comfort zone and render another one with Turbo unlocked and in Performance mode. CPU average temp was 90C and it wasn't that much way faster than with turbo disabled. But yeah, good luck to those planning on focusing on rendering videos in best possible performance scenario. Unless they are planning on applying LM on the CPU or cooking eggs on the Y740.

 

Hello guys,

i totally can understand the point of views from everyone, i have also waited for those comments as they are also positive for this discussion than others.

I really love this laptop, that's why i want to have it as long as possible and if i can fix my personal issue with this it would be "my laptop" i am looking for since years.
My intitial target was to have a 100% silent system at "none gaming" work like working with excel sheets, browsing in forums and things like that.
I have reached the goal with this machine. And when i need it like Jacol wrote then this thing can give us nearly desktop performance which is awesome.

The main issue what a1san is complaining is that everything today must be thinner and lighter. Laptops, Smartphones ...

A funny thing in the meantime:
I have watched so many videos about laptop fan noise, this is what youtube's AI recommend today for me:



At 0:10 you can hear my laptop fans ramping up.

Maybe i will try some day the tweak with small foam tapes under the fans. But for now i will let it go. For the intense stuff i use headphones for the "none gaming" stuff i disable turbo, set TLP to 10 watt and the fans are standing most times completly still.

 

LOL dude that was mean. I turned up the volume all the way on my phone and put the speaker to my ear paying close attention haha

 

Im very sorry

I thought this brightens up the conversation a bit

 

Does anyone have a working, with correct boosting freqs, 115W 2070 Max-P vBios? If so, does it give any performance benefits?

 

...
Imagine two houses ,one on the left side and one on your right.
In the middle, there stands a man that every day should spend the day,the whole day,in one of the houses,let's say like shifts, supervising people,a on technical matters, keep def.records and etc...

Well imagine that guy,he had an aged laptop,not so aged for demanding tasks but aged enough for demanding game titles.
This laptop was bigger in screen,bulkier and quite heavy but other than that, no
discomfort.

His hands was typing to the laptop's keyboard,playing some games,talking and listening with family friends employes and writing as it meant to be and as it meant to be played on a laptop. Ofc there to the older laptop was a special place for throttle stop and also space for some basic tunning.Ofc Heat was there always but most of the times you didn't notice it at least in your hands.
Let's call this laptop ,the old Buddha laptop,Clevo. And for background purposes the previous of this clevo,was let's call it Titan.

So,imagine the same guy nowdays, having a thinner smaller stylish,awesome laptop.
Also ,in case any of you forgot,it's a Gaming laptop!
From stylish perspective is everything you looking for and a ton of research took place before the order. On every YouTube video ,vlog and blogs they praise the laptop for it's best thermals,the gorgeous screen and so on.

Once again to remind you, the purpose was to fullfill the gaming demands and the gaming demanded titles.

So let's go back to that guy with it's new laptop. How the heck to enjoy your playing session when heat comes in waves to your palm and fingers? How to settle your brain to believe that this thing,this 3mm mobo with it's capacitors is not frying.You know ,ofc you know but I like to mention,100 to 110 degrees celcious is the maximum degrees that i7 9th can reach but surroundings parts and electronics maybe cannot handle that massive heat and may loose,and so, your beloved product maybe meet the heaven real soon.
So you buy something that it offers you to play with it at maximum but soon you realize that this maximum it drains it's longevity.

Once again to remind you,that international companies such as Lenovo have not equal warranties on every country, but you may have at least one Lenovo Service Centre in your country. By that I mean that in my country and also other countries Lenovo service centers exist but service ,oh man, is a neverending nogo system....

So as you understand,y have to give solutions to your matters...Oh wait ,there is also a Lenovo forum,but Lenovo employees trying to translate a ton of problems ,and no one answer. Seriously...Why? Simply because they can! The policy and after sales care is so loose...
Back to that guy.

That guy paid the bill to acquire it's brand new laptop.Throtlestop and so other modifications took place in order to lash the heat.
Imagine that guy nowdays, carrying a new huge backpack that contains as I said in a previous post,headphones for mic purposes,modded laptop cooler for that 5 to7 degrees direct attack to the heat,k yes I bought one today and guess what! It's heat free mechanical wireless one,super!!!I now understand the 'way to meant played' logo,wireless modem combined with 4g thanks to killer wifi card continuous problems with disconnections...

So what left to admire of this laptop?The chassis? Oh wait the screen,hmmm there is at least one bleeding spot to my laptop.
WHY on earth they don't give us the option to make custom curves on our fans?

Yes it's a sleek design a lot better than the other craps offered as laptops here and there and so I bought it,but for the last time,imagine that guy...

Once upon a time was carrying one laptop (laptops) almost 5 kilos plus 1 to 2 kilos the power brick
Now is carrying 5 kilos stuff in order to make the laptop to act as laptop...

Yes nowdays laptops run hot,I am ok with that but for some the warm is hot and for others hot is just warm.

Solution to the matter ,came from my best friend,I said I cannot play,it's freaking hot,he said buy a gamepad..I said I don't know how to play with a game pad,it's a laptop not a ps4.. he said,buy a keyboard then,and so I did.Heat problem solved.

So what's next? Gaming on 4ghz clocks with overclocked Gpu,all together combined with throttle stop care ,gaming wiresly from the sofa waiting the day it explodes.

Excuse me...but actually I don't want to be excused.I want to point you the situation here...

 

Wow way too long and convoluted to put across the same point as before: this laptop is too hot for your delacate fingers.

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Yeah really @a1san imagine two houses, in the middle there stands a guy spamming tl;dr stories

People willingly buying high temp stuff is one thing but there is also an option to buy, test and return the product to the shop if not satisfied, move to another brand, rinse and repeat

 

@a1san It’s not overly hot to begin with, I’ve played on laptops that get way hotter and burn your thighs and palms while blasting your ears with fans louder than the Y740.

Personally I’m using bios 1.03 so when I’m gaming I use Fn+Q max fans, undervolted my CPU to -160/-150 and average temps are around 73-78, very reasonable for a laptop even with +217/400 on my graphics card which I didn’t think possible on a laptop and it doesn’t burn my hands. I don’t know how your unit has such a heat problem, it might be defective but you’ve modified it way too much for a warranty exchange now. Try upping your Speedshift value, disabling turbo boost or lowering your multiplier?

 

Hey guys, I'm wondering if anyone has experienced GPU throttling at between 75-77 degrees on their Y740 (17" 8750H 2060)? I have low CPU temperature, especially with undervolting but have this GPU throttling problem causes a loss of framerate and stuttering. I'm on the latest BIOS and if I recall correctly had it at least on the previous one too. Thanks

 

Hi everyone. I have some questions about overclocking.

GPU
My laptop has the RTX 2080 Max-Q graphics. At idle the GPU clock is at 300MHz and memory clock at 405MHz. When gaming, the GPU clock goes up to 1800MHz and the memory at 6000MHz. When the profile is set to Quiet or Balanced the GPU power is 80W. When using Performance profile, the GPU power is 90W.

Q1: Do you see any improvement when using Performance profile over the other two ? That 10W difference ?
Q2: Do you see any improvement when increasing the GPU and memory clock in MSI Afterburner ? I tried +100MHz GPU and +200 memory, however, I did not see any performance increase during gaming. It may increase the score in some benchmarks, but did you notice any improvement in daily gaming ?

MEMORY
Through the debug BIOS we can change the memory timings. By decreasing the values, we can achieve faster speeds. Based on the following screenshot from HwInfo, see below my question:



Q3: By reducing the timings, this will also reduce the frequency ? Or do you still have the same frequency, but with improved timings ? Did you notice any improvement after making such changes ? Can you post here a screenshot with your new timings ?

CPU
Well, the overclocking here is not like 20 years ago when you switch jumpers on the motherboard to change the FSB or the multiplier

Q4: By using ThrottleStop, how much did you manage to undervolt the i7-9750h ? Below are my values.



Q5: What is your preferred method of reducing the throttling when gaming and improve the thermals ? Do you use a specific profile, Quiet, Balanced, Performance ? Do you set a reduced power limit for the turbo boost ? Do you reduce the turbo ratio limits ? Do you disable the turbo boost ? You don't do anything, you just leave it to throttle ?

In my case, I prefer to use the Quiet profile which limits the long turbo boost power to 25W and the short power boost power to 45W. In this way the CPU does not overheat and the temperatures of the CPU and GPU are staying under 75 Celsius degrees. However, with this profile the fans are a little bit noisy when gaming. If I use the Balanced or Performance profile with the turbo boost power limit set to the same 25W, then it is quieter but the CPU temperature is going up to 85. Anyway, if the turbo boost power is set anywhere over 30W, then the CPU is thermal throttling and the CPU temperature is over 90 Celsius degrees which is too high for my taste.

Q6: Which is the balance in your case ?

 

1. Yes. About 125MHz higher boost clock with FN+Q.

2. Yes. MSI afterburner isnt overclocking as much as its just undervolting.
So you can hit higher clocks at the same power budget.
Try to underclock 500MHz, you will still hit power limit.
But that clock runs easily under even 80W if you flatten the Voltage curve at say 1475MHz.

3. Some guy adjusted timings and it didnt seem to improve fps in any noticable way.

4. I have i7 8750H.
I can get -150mV cache and have tested up to -300mV core with no crashes but I feel i may be losing fps.
So i stick to -275mV core, but I am still testing, it may still be too much.

5. I use FN+Q for the 90W.
I set MSI afterburner to +190MHz.
I underclock video memory the max allowed by MSI Afterburner for stability.
Throttlestop -150mV cache,
-275mV core.
I have removed the metal and fabric meshes from the air intake.
I use a laptop cooling pad.
I recently added a heat sink kit from raspberry pi to the now exposed heat pipes.

Temps are great in the games I play COD:WZ, Apex Legends, Overwatch.
High 60's to mid 80's.

I also limit framerate to 100-150fps in game.(depending on the game)
As you get way better input lag if your GPU isnt maxed out.

 

How do you know your GPU is throttling and causing stutters? Have you run tests in benchmarks in repetitive scenario to compare results?

 

@alexandrud
Screenshots are in this topic, just read couple of pages back.

3. Timings does not affect frequency. You can lower timings to get higher bandwidth. You can run a benchmark on stock and lowered timings to compare results.

4. I run daily in Quiet mode for everything, undervolt in Throttlestop, Turbo disabled, Speedshift set to 128, Intel GPU disabled in bios, battery removed, Nvidia driver FPS locked to 90fps in 3D. I am using my notebook only on my lap for everything. Temps are really good, Warzone and other games works so I am more than happy.

I can post my average temps later or tomorrow from couple of hours in WZ if I will not forget about it.

 

Battery removed ? Why ? Do you use an UPS in case of a power outage ?
Since you are on AC all the time, why don't you use Speedshift set to a lower value, or even 0 ?

 

I use my notebook 100% on AC so I don’t need battery weight and constantly murdering it with charging/discharging 5-10% while always on AC.
I drive all my laptops without batteries since Dell XPS Studio 17 times when I killed battery just having it in and using AC on all the time.

As for power loss I don’t really care since I have constant backup to the cloud running in the background of all necessary folders, files and program settings needed for sudden pc switch or disk restoration from image and I didn’t have any corrupted data from power losses for last 6 years.

128 Speedshift is a sweet spot for daily running for me to keep it both quiet and cool without sacrificing that much of possible performance in usual boring daily tasks.

 

You are very lucky. In my case (I7-9750H), anything below -0.139mV cache and -0.149mV core generates errors in TS Bench. Your undervolting is error free in ThrottleStop Bench ?

 

for anyone with the lenovo y740 ichg (i7 8750h) with the rtx 2060 locked at 80W to unlock it I found this site to unlock it at 90W 100% tested https://www.bilibili.com/read/cv1960378/
https://newsupport.lenovo.com.cn/commonProblemsDetail.html?noteid=180564
the download link is: http://newdriverdl.lenovo.com.cn/newlenovo/alldriversupload/52364/VBIOS-RTX2060vbios01.exe

now my timespy's score is 6500 (with overclock +200 on core) before was 6200(with same overclock)

 

How do you find errors??

The TS Bench window just has a few windows, none I can see show errors.

Please to direct me.

 

For example, I tried these values and run multiple tests. During the test with 16 threads and size 64M it gave me 3 errors. I increased the cache undervolting from -0.150mV to -0.140mV and I had no errors anymore when running the same test. Another interesting thing is that when on battery I can undervolt more than when I am on AC. Here in my screenshot the core is -0.200mV when on battery. When I am connected to AC the undervolt below -0.149mV generates errors during these computational tests.

 

Hello,

normally you can go to -1000mv on core, your cpu / BIOS will ignore the offset if you go to deep.
You can freeze your system or get an instability just when you UV your cache or system agent to far.

 

Not completely true

Mine get freeze or BSOD when try to push UV on core more than 150mv

 

Are you sure you didn‘t set to „static vcore offset“?
I have never got a pc / laptop crashed in the last years when i uv the vcore to deep using the adaptive offset.
If you use adaptive offset then this is totally new for me.

At my Y740 (8750h) the deepest vcore offset is -299 mv. After that my Cpu does not go lower. Even if i apply -1000mv vcore.

 

Yes I'm sure. I use adaptive, not static.

 

Does anyone know which displays are compatible with the 17" model?

I have the AUO329D (B173HAN03.2). I was thinking of replacing it with the LG panel (LP173WFG-SPD2), but now I'm considering that 4K 120hz panel (B173ZAN03.3,) that the Razer Blade Pro gets.

Or maybe there is a suitable 240hz or 300hz model?

Interested to know if anyone else has looked into this?

 

Can anyone please post their UV for Y740 ICHg? Thank you in advance.

 

This is my stable undervolting. I even reduced the core to -0.400mV but I did not see any improvement in Cinebench R20 score. For me, -0.250mV core and -0.139mV cache is the maximum that is stable and still shows improvements. My Cinebench R20 score with these values and Speed Shift set to 0 was 3111.



Y740 ICHg may have i5 and i7 CPUs. Which is the CPU in your laptop ?

 

140-150mV is typical average that can be 24/7 stable

 

I have i7-8750H and I'd really like to optimize my machine the best I can. I watched some vidoes on youtube but it really does differ for every laptop so I figured I'd ask here and see if I can have some feedback on the same laptop that I have.

I have also seen some people disable BW PROCHOT so now I'm really unsure whether I have the best settings set.

Here are my settings fwiw.

 

Nice pictures but nobody has crystal ball to tell what you exactly want to optimize. Thermals, CPU or GPU performance?

 

Fair point. I would say all of the above?

I ran stress test few minutes ago, I don't know whether this will be of any use to you.

 

Not really because we still don't know what you want from your system and within what scenario.

I see normal performance there expected from this system. Easiest thing to do with our hardware is to set typical undervolt, tighten RAM timings for more bandwidth and overclock GPU a bit and that's mostly it at the cost of higher temps (GPU OC).

 

I want the best performance while gaming - that's pretty much it. If you could share some tips how to do the things you outlined I'd be very grateful.

 

Undervolt as max you can get it stable, you can try my RAM timings as in signature or find your own lowest possible, OC GPU if you need it.

That's the easiest way.

How to access bios and Overclocking menu was mentioned in last 5 pages.

 

Well, gave up trying to fix the power issue. Nuke and paved a fresh Win 10. Let's hope it doesn't pop up again. No idea what caused it

 

Keep us posted please.

 

Spent all of today re-configuring the laptop. This time I will create a disk image to restore from so I don't have to go through it again if something happens. So far so good, idle power draw after I've done my configurations is under 10,000 milliwatts yielding around 4.5 hours of battery life.

 

Told you it was software issue. Now you need to find responsible driver or app for high idle draw.

 

Oh yea, I have no doubt it is a software issue.

 

Do you have any clue what caused this yet? The internet sucks big time where I am so cant affort to nuke the system at the moment.

 

No clue, and I did quite a bit of digging into it. I got sick and tired of it and decided to nuke. It's a huge pain in the ass to get everything back up and running but now I am comfortably pushing ~4 hours battery life.

One issue that I had, and looks like nuke didn't fix, is my SSD. I get approx the advertised 3400/3000 speeds but then after some idle time or sleep cycles I re-run test and get like 870/800. This is on a SP34A80 drive. No clue whats causing it but it is also super frustrating.

 

Not wanting to dig through 195 pages so I just ask instead;

I'm waiting for the Gen10 2020 gaming laptops, but it seems they are gonna be crazy expensive and furthermore no one knows when they may be released in my country, and I want to game now, not in 3 months.

However, the Lenovo Legion Y740-17 with i7 9750H / 16gb / 512gb / RTX2080 is selling for a very low price ATM, so I'd like some impressions from users.

Obviously, it will let me play all modern games, but are there any major complaints on this machine from existing users? As as I read, it fairly quiet for a gaming laptop, and even thou it's Max-Q it seem to game really well. 1080p @ 144Hz with G-Sync is great too.

I have spare 2x16gb 2666 ram and both a 500 and 2TB m.2 disks since my last machine, so I can beef it up a bit.

 

I wont push you either way, but my unit has been in for repair 4 times in last 4 months, Iv only actually had it for a few days in the last 4 months with mobo replacements, memory, etc...which is abnormal for me as I have never had to actually use a warranty with any laptop I ever have bought.

I just got an Area51m with 2080 and 9700 non k processor and I am loving it! I did test out the Y740 for a few months when I got it and it worked well when it was working but I would advise against getting a maxq GPU if your intentions are to mostly game. The Acer Helios 300 i got on BF special for 700$ and its the best bang for your money, MSI has some new laptops, the GE66 looks interesting with the full 2070 super, bestbuy has one for sale in states.

You said you like quest laptops though and the Y740 is definitely on the quiet side, you just have to tweak it to get the temperatures regulated. I would advise against spending extra on a 2080 and go for the 2070 maxq as its 400$ cheaper, at least when I bought myn it was. This laptop to me is not worth spending more then 1500 dollars on, keep that in mind when your laying down your hard earned cash, USD. Anything over 1500 and your spending way way to much for it.

 

You don't have to dig through 195 pages but I can recommend my forum post from below which contains my impressions on the most important aspects of this laptop:
http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/lenovo-legion-y740-17-15.827244/page-186#post-11010842
This laptop is great for gaming and for any other task.

 

I'm not in the USA, so price-wise we are much higher (electronics taxes are a joke where I live).

The price difference is not big between 2070 and 2080 Y740, so I might as well go with the 2080.

I owned a A51M and it was not a good experience. Now I just want something I can boot up and be done with it and the Y740 is almost half the price here.