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    Lenovo ThinkPad X220 video review

    Discussion in 'Lenovo' started by pdagal, Mar 7, 2011.

  1. erik

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    what i saw showed a 6-cell (64Whr) slice, not 9 or 19.
     
  2. coldmack

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    Really a shame USB 3.0 is an option for the higher spec model. I could forgive that if had a built in optical drive(yes I still burn cds and rip them to my computer). damn.
     
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    Intel chipset does not support USB 3.0, so it is no surprise that USB 3.0 doesn't come as a standard feature. To add support, Lenovo has to add an extra controller onto the motherboard. It's weird that Lenovo goes through all the hoops to add USB 3.0 support, but bundle it only with the i7 option...
     
  4. Kaso

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    "LP125WH2" - LP: LG Philips / 125: 12.5"

    Some LCD manufacturers and their codes:


    • Acer - L
    • AU Optronics - B
    • Chi Mei - N
    • Hitachi - TX
    • LG Philips - LP
    • LG Display - LP
    • Mitsubishi - AA
    • NEC - NL
    • Quanta - QD
    • Samsung - LT or LTN
    • Sharp - LQ or LM
    • Toshiba - LTM or LTD

    Examples: My ThinkPad T510's FHD panel is B156HW01, by AUO. The Precision M6500 has Samsung and LG Philips as sources for its RGBLED panel; the one by LG Philips is LP171WU5.

    Lenovo likely uses multiple sources for the X220 IPS panel, one being LG (as reported by pdagal's machine), another possibly AUO (as erik stated).
     
  5. coldmack

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    Yeah and the i7 tablet doesn't even get the option, odd.
     
  6. Jayayess1190

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    When will this be available to price out specs on Lenovo's website?
     
  7. coldmack

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    Is the price really $1200 for the tablet? Is the standard screen for the tablet an IPS screen or is that only for the outdoor screen(and what is the nits on each screen 200 and 300nits)?
     
  8. jaakobi

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    so what's the word on X220s? Never going to happen? Are they stuck at 1366*768 and no HD+ option ever?
     
  9. WyrmHF

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    According to X220t specs the multi-touch indoor screen is also IPS.

    Its NIT is reported as 300 in the spec sheet but I've seen someone quoted ~250 number they got in tests.

    No USB3 in tablet versions is a real downer, however. How could Lenovo bungle the job on such an awesome tablet? I mean, i7 CPU, IPS outdoor screen, light weight, slice battery+long battery life ... and no USB3. Arrgghh.

    EDIT: Maybe I'm just getting too demanding. - My expectations were way lower than what they've posted today.
     
  10. coldmack

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    Is that for 300nit for the outdoor or indoor?
     
  11. Mech0z

    Mech0z Notebook Evangelist

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    People mention no latch, but what is a latch on a laptop?
     
  12. WyrmHF

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    If this spec is correct, it is 300nit for both:
    x220_tablet_datasheet.pdf

    See the big table on the 3rd page - 300nit is listed separately for both.
     
  13. coldmack

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    Then what would be the difference between the indoor and outdoor screen? Because, was on the previous X series models the indoor 200nit, and outdoor 300nit?

    Edit: nvm I guess that not the outdoor or indoor screens listed, but actually the pen and the multi-touch pen display listed. From what I take the the non-multi-touch is a Gorilla glass screen?
     
  14. Kaso

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    [​IMG]

    When the lid is closed, the two hooks are "trapped" in the holes, securing the lid. When the latch is pushed to the right, it releases the hooks from the holes, allowing the lid to be lifted up.

    This traditional mechanism no longer exists in the X220: no hooks, no holes, no latch.
     
  15. Mech0z

    Mech0z Notebook Evangelist

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    Ah okay, year I would love 2 latches on my X201 isntead of a single one
     
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    Those who are curious can take a look at ZDnets review units specs here:
    http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site.wss/quickPath.do?quickPathEntry=428623U
    Not much, I know :D

    Like the slice battery option and IPS sounds tempting too, what I dont like is lack of latches, somewhat thin lid which might not be the best protection for your beloved IPS and the way the 6 cell battery sticks from the bottom, quite ugly.
    Other than that, only thing I could really miss in this laptop is HD+ resolution and maybe USB 3.0.
     
  18. stjernefodt

    stjernefodt Notebook Guru

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    Lisa could you post the WEI scores for your X220? Thanks.
     
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    So far LatopMag's review contain the most information.

    PCMag's review is the worst. It's the only review that mentioned nothing about the IPS panel or view angle of the display (the review unit they have seem to be the same as everyone's). The reviewer has to be blind to not notice the difference when comparing the X220 to other laptops he mentioned in the review. Then came the benchmarks and gaming test. Guess what game the reviewer used? Crysis! On high and medium quality (yes, the idiot didn't bother to run it on low). It doesn't take a genius to figure out what the test results were like. Any laptop reviewers that have a little common sense should know no consumer would be looking for an ultraportable with integrated graphics to play Crysis. He really should have run the tests with more common and less demanding games like L4D, HF2, WoW, SC2 etc.
     
  21. RamGuy

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    I see two drawbacks with this new X220 model, the first being no higher resolution option when it comes to the display. I know the IPS panel is one of the best upgrade in a very long time, especially considering how horrible the TN-panel offerings from Lenovo have been the past years but 1366x768 is still a downgrade from 1440x900.

    Last but not least I'm very sceptical to the Intel HD 3000 graphics preformance, we all know Intel and their graphic drivers are lackluster and their previous generation with integrated graphics didn't manage to fully run 1080P with higher bitrate like raw Blu-Ray rips etc.. How certain can we be that this new Intel HD 3000 actually manages to play all kinds of HD-video sources? Intel has been claiming full HD capabilites ever since the G35 chipset but results have been rather sluggish. How can we be sure things will play like butter this time around?
     
  22. jran123

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    Does anyone know if it will be Sata 3 enabled or just Sata 2? I would like to get the OCZ vertex 3 when it comes out.
     
  23. RamGuy

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    It's Intel SandyBridge so it should use SATA3.
     
  24. jran123

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    But it is also Sata 2 capable and lenovo could just use that as the primary for the hard drive.
     
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    Go to some major tech sites, for example anandtech.com. Go back to look at their January Sandy Bridge articles, read their reviews. There is very significant and major performance increase for the Intel graphics in this time around.
     
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    X220 support SATA III ?
     
  28. Tsunade_Hime

    Tsunade_Hime such bacon. wow

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    4500MHD plays Bluray just fine. My friend bought a brand new MBP 13". He can play Source games 1280x800 lag free, big step up from older Intel IGP. He can even manage playable frame rates for SC2.

    Also clock for clock, Sandy Bridge is much faster than Arrandale CPUs.
     
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    I am really considering buying the x220, but since I just waste 360 on the x120, I am going to get it on Black Friday when Lenovo heavily discount this laptop.
     
  30. TSE

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    When can we officially order/pre-order the X220 and do these work with DiY ViDocks?????

    Think the X220 will have problems running Hulu 480P fullscreen on a 1920x1200 monitor???
     
  31. Mech0z

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    With all settings to low can he play SC2 with no lag? Or will it lag in big battles? Really annyoed my current one cannot
     
  32. k2001

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    Absolutely not, It should breeze through any task you throw at it except for gaming.
     
  33. pdagal

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    Actually, you'd be surprised at how well it does at gaming. At least I was ;)

    We just published a video of the X220 playing Left 4 Dead 2, Mass Effect 2 and a less ambitious RPG (all gaming settings are shown in the video).

    Lenovo X220 gaming video on MobileTechReview
     
  34. TSE

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    I didn't know Hulu was gaming.... ;)
     
  35. khtse

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    Ok, I've found a reason NOT to purchase X220 now. It's gaming ability will prevent me from working :p
     
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    Is the palm rest on the x220 short than the x201?
     
  37. pufftissue

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    Just confirm: matte screen even on the ips display? Any word on the expected cost of the upgrade to the ips display?
    And actual stereo speakers this time?
    It still has the thinklight?
    Does it have some weird cpu whine?
     
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    Are the i5 graphics better than the i7 graphics?

    Looks like I'm getting one with IPS. I'm hoping the 9 cell lasts 12 hours doing web browsing and office.
     
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    Hey bud,

    You're saying even with your GTX460 vidock, SC2 lags when in big battles on your x201t?
    I was thinking about doing a vidock with my x201t.

    I wonder if it's due to pci x1 limitation?
     
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    Can you explain more about this vidock thing? Very interesting.
     
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    Is there such thing as a super tiny PSU that would work for a midrange graphics card for a ViDock?
     
  45. TheGreat

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    Can anyone check the audio quality (playing MP3 or anything with audio)?
    Some one already reported an issue with x120e.
     
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    I am very impress with this laptop, Sandy Bridge, IPS display and long battery life. This could be my first laptop by the way.

    Would this 12.5" display be too small for work such programming, web design, and graphic works? I also want to use it for business application like excel and word for business use.

    I know a 10.1" netbook is too small. I looked at 13.3" screen models and found some of the text a bit too small on standard size. I tried the MacBook Pro 13.3" and the font were tiny using the "Chart" software. However, I thought it was usable when I zoom in.

    I didn't see any 12.1" at BestBuy to try some in the size. Thanks.
     
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    I "Think" its cpu limited, but I am not certain, but it lags even if I dont watch any action on my screen.
     
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    Try 14 or 15.6 inch T-series with standard screen resolution (i.e. T410/T420 or T510/T520).
     
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    Is the weight with the 6-cell 3 pounds or 3.6 pounds? Some reviews say 3.6 pounds while others say 3 pounds.
     
  50. jackrabbit

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    I went to Fry's Electronics today and found a 12.5" Lenovo U260. It turned out the screen size is not too small. The width of the U260 is wide. Since, it has the same resolution 1366x768. It came very close to the X220.

    Coding and web design would seem to be workable on this screen size. I am looking forward for the release.
     
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