Lenovo ThinkPad Yoga

I would just swap the laptop for another one. I have no idea why you're even attempting to repair it.

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In reading through the forum it looks like others have had dead pixels, bad chassis and bad panels. I would rather have someone come on-site and replace the panel and confirm it is performing at an acceptable level than wait a month for a new one to arrive only to find out it has another issue. If it didn't take so long for Lenovo to make the custom units and then ship from China it wouldn't be so bad. Worst case scenario I will just return the unit and get a refund.

 

Not sure why it isnt listed under the yoga drivers, but the Hotkey Feature's Integration driver fixed the problem

Mine runs a little hotter than the reviewers said too, but I am willing to blame that on the i7-4600U for generating a lot more heat than the i5's tested.

 

Could you give a little insight as to how well the i7-4600u is working? One of the things that greatly annoys me when reading reviews/forums is that people always refer to it as i7 or i5, never giving the exact specification.
Benchmarks would be wonderful, though just a general "it's most certainly better/it's somewhat better/it's the same as" also works.
Can you find any complaints or defects in your model?
Do you think the heat could be a serious issue or is it perfectly fine and nothing to even think about?

I actually bought an i7-4600u model w/ 256GB SSD and AC adapter, I should have it by the 20th, I just want to know of a few things I should look out or check for.
Thank you!

 

I too have a small scratch on the screen, about 4 mm long. I noticed it when I was cleaning the screen for the first time, a couple of days after I got it. I'm quite sure it was there already when I unboxed it. It was stupid of me to forget such a basic thing than checking the screen condition. I'm thinking of sending it back and hopefully get it replaced. I guess the loose display seam goes with the same packet. The scratch is quite small, but it's in a location that it's very visible and that's why it bothers me a little bit.Other than that it's a perfect maching for me. I wouldn't consider replacing TPY with some other model.

 

Is Lenovo's warranty on the TPY global?

I'm in Hungary, where Lenovo doesn't have its own online shop and no retailers are yet carrying TPY. I was thinking of ordering one from abroad, but how would warranty work in that case? For instance, the Surface Pro 2 warranty only covers a handful of countries. I'm also a little hesitant about ordering from abroad with all these reports about problems with the screen.

 

I received my yoga today and have been playing around with it and setting it up. Everything has been great, until right now.

Specs: 4600U, 128GB SSD, AC Wireless, Windows 8.1 Pro

I got the windows battery warning at 8%, so I plugged the charger in and continued using it for the next 15 minutes. I look back down and it's at 4%. WTH? I figured I was just using power faster than the rated wattage of the adapter (was doing lots of cpu intensive work and I haven't looked at the adapter specs).

I come back like an hour later and continue using it to now just take notes in OneNote. It was at 53% when I started using it. Fast forward to later, I notice that my battery is still going down and it is here I realize on the battery icon it says "plugged in, not charging".

I remember earlier that in the lenovo settings app, there was the power option for extended use by only charging to 50%. So I go to find it, but it's gone (just the option, not the app). So at this point with the computer on, it will not charge. But when it's off, it will. However now I am at a point where even with the laptop shutdown, it won't charge.

I installed the latest 1.08 bios. I unplugged l, plugged it and restarted many times. I've tried different outlets. I've tried suggestion of uninstalling the Microsoft battery device in device manager. Nothing has changed.

Does anybody have any insight? I really, really, really do not want to have to send my unit back.

I am currently sitting at 25% with no way of charging it.

 

Hey Guys!
I have been looking at the thread since it first started. Anyhow, I just bought my TPY a few days ago, but I am not very happy with my unit
Specs:
I7 4550
HDD: 1TB +16GB SSD
With Pen
With Single Band Wifi
So the first problem is that the lift and lock is not quite working. What I mean is the left side bottom of the keyboard is not raised up and the keys are not locked -_-. The second problem is when ever I try to update the software via Thinkvantage, there is always an error of "Can not gather user information." Lastly, when ever I close the lid of the computer after a few hours of sleeping the computer will turn on so slowly and the mute button will light up??? What I mean is the Lenovo logo will show up like its starting from a COMPLETE shut down. Are there anyone also experiencing these problems? I think I am going to go to the service centre tomorrow morning!

 

The lift&lock thing sounds like a defective unit - you should get it fixed/replaced.
As for waking up - look for the Intel Smart Connect app - you can configure it to wake up your computer periodically to update emails and stuff - perhaps that is what's happening. I believe the reason it is actually visibly waking up is because TPY does not support the new Connected Standby mode in which computer can stay in the low power sleep mode and still be connected to the network and check for emails, so it must wake up to do so.

 

AFAIK all Thinkpad warranties are global. I have bought Thinkpad laptops in one country and serviced them in another - that works, although you might loose some additional services (like on-site). In cases where there is no local support in your country they usually suggest you to take it/ship it to the nearest place that does.

However, considering all of the issues with TPY there is a good chance you'll get a defective unit and then it might be a huge headache to arrange DOA replacement and/or repairs if you don't have a local support.

 

if you know the model number of the ThinkPad Yoga, then you can check whether the International Warranty applies in Hungary or not.

Lenovo Support - International Warranty Services (AU)

 

DOA process takes forever if you want a refund (a month at least) and a lot of phoneing at the beginning, i dont have experience on replacement machines though.
I remember the on site warranty for my previous dell latitude: Called them that the hdmi port is not working and the touchpad has issues: next day their technician came to the office and replaced both of them without even trying it out if its really malfunctioning. Another time i called them that my power adapter makes a high frequency sound when the laptop is in sleep mode. A couple of days later i got another one on post.
Looks like its false hope that Lenovo's gonna be this good.

 

In my experience the touchpad works a lot better if you disable the extra multitouch gestures in the settings like: swipe from edges for app change and get the charms. Basically disable everything except what you used to on mac. I have a Macbook Air too and really font of its trackpad. So its natural that i wanted the same experience from the TPY. After disabling the unnecessary gestures and removing the dead zones i found that it was much more responsive and a lot closer to the apple one, still not exactly there though. Its still too easy to push (as a button), the best would be if it was somewhere on the way between apple's and this because i found apple's a bit too hard to push.

 

I have a 3.3GHz Core i5 2500K desktop with RAID0 SSDs and quite frankly the laptop feels just as fast for most usage. Solidworks (3d CAD software) launches in about 5 seconds. Desktop to Desktop restart takes around 15 seconds, and most of that is shutting down. A cold start takes around 5 seconds.

Running some SiSoft Sandra benchmarks without trying to close down everything that might be taking CPU (dropbox, pidgin, skype etc).

Sorry if they aren't great, I just quickly looked for a free somewhat used benchmark while getting ready for a final (Anandtech appears to use it so you could compare there)

Arithmetic:

Multimedia:


Arithmetic in tablet mode:


While running the benchmarks the bottom is noticeably warm, but not terribly so, no different than putting your hand on a furnace vent that is heating your home, if not milder. Based on the SiSoft Sandra interface, it appears that in tablet mode there is slight throttling (listed as 3GHz instead of 3.3GHz for turbo rate.)

Only defect with mine was the trackpad was a little out of place when I got it, the first couple clicks popped it back into position. And the ultrabook sticker is really crooked, otherwise it is great. BIOS needed an update (no problems, one was just available) and the digitizer works great.

As far as the heat, its not too bad, the core hits up to about 80C under heavy cpu load, but the bottom of the unit doesn't get nearly as hot as my old Macbook Pro when it's core would also hit 80C. The fan is significantly quieter than my old MBP as well, and it turns off quickly

 

Does anyone here have experience with both thinkpad helix and thinkpad yoga? I am curious about a comparison of the two.

 

Thanks! I'll check the warranty website and think about whether it makes sense to order from abroad.

 

Thank you so much for taking the time to answer my questions, from what I can tell I'm in for a treat with the TPY. I've never owned an SSD before, I hadn't even planned to get a model with it until I realised this is the one situation it'd be a good idea to have for me. It's also nice to hear that while you did have one slight defect it had none of the serious issues that other people had.
I don't care much about the heat, it just seemed that in comparison to the i5 it was running pretty hot and I would hate to risk melting the thing as oh so many HP laptops before it have.
Your saying that the digitizer works wonderfully is really touching to me, without the digitizer I wouldn't be buying the Yoga. I originally bought a Surface Pro 2 only to get three heavily defected models that the pen never worked with, killing a lot of the hope I had for the TPY.
I can't wait to get my Yoga, only a few more days now; that is, if Lenovo isn't just getting my hopes up to get it before the weekend. Thank you again!

 

Received my I7-4600 yesterday. So far so great. No issues with build quality. I have been all over this sucker and have not found anything wrong with it. Display - I have not seen any ghosting. However I do have some light bleed around the edges, particularly around the top edges. Also, I can't get rid of the device manager alert in the Solutions Center even after doing all the updates. After going through two Yoga 2 Pros for quality control issues, I am much happier now.

 

Yeah, I love it so far, it is definitely not worryingly warm. And the trackpad has been performing fine after it popped back into position. While I haven't used the stylus extensively, it is very responsive in Onenote and only slightly slow in Photoshop and other heavy duty applications. You are in for a real treat with an SSD, yours may perform a bit differently as I upgraded mine myself from 128->240GB but my brief functionality test on the factory SSD before swapping it out was still very fast.

 

I'm glad to hear you are happier with this than the Y2P. I had one for a little over a month and ended up returning it with the expectation of picking up the Thinkpad Yoga. I'm just waiting for the people who have been getting theirs in the last 7 to 10 days to post in a few weeks about whether they have image persistence issues or not. Otherwise this seems to be a much better fit for my needs than the Yoga 2 Pro was.... It's nice to have someone who used the Y2P say they like this one better.

 

The led status on the 'i' in the Thinkpad logo. Is there a sequential table that shows what they mean?

When I plugged in the AC adapter it blinks 3 times. Can anyone confirm that this is what they get as well?

 

Ah, indeed: I must have misread somewhere that Fujitsu exclusively uses n-trig. This makes it only better, then

You should generally just get the CPU you want, and you can upgrade the RAM and disk on your own since it provides a single SODIMM slot (taking up to 8GB) and uses SATA 2.5" disks (probably 9mm at most, but you can easily find 7mm SSDs anyway).

 

Guys, it looks like the "won't wake up from sleep" error / bug I ran into on a 20CD model is somewhat common:
Re: Thinkpad Yoga, not waking up after sleep - Lenovo Community

Again, if you run into this very annoying bug, a BIOS flash to the 11-28 version seems to have fixed it for me.

 

@sjrahn, received mine yesterday (i7 4600u), haven't had enough time to play with it. I can confirm, when I plug it in the LED flashes and then goes off. It's charged to 100% right now. Need to do some updates and figure out how to turn off the Auto Brightness!

 

Regarding digitizer technology in T904, I've found this macro shot of T904 display. http://scr3.golem.de/screenshots/1311/Hands_On_fujitsu_Lifebook_T904/Fujitsu_Lifebook_T904_10.jpg The metal grid suspiciously visible, could be because pre-production model. Although it could be a touch layer in the glass.

 

Hey,guys I took the plunge and invested. It should arrive in about 3 weeks. I was wondering if the stylus is to small I will be taking lots of notes in math classes and the MobileTechReview's lisa did mention the size of the stylus. Should I order another such as the surface one.

 

I read on the Lenovo forums that that is just the signal to indicate it is charging.

 

I finally received my TPY today (custom built from Lenovo, with configuration i5, 8GB RAM, 256GB SSD, Intel dual band wireless 7620AC, Digtizer), and I am very very impressed! Amazing build quality, no creaks or imperfections, superb screen with no clouding or backlighting issues and excellent trackpad, bettered only by my MacBook (this one runs close). The keyboard is absolutely superb, the best I've experienced. I've never owned a ThinkPad before, so cannot compare with other ThinkPad keyboards. All in all, I'm extremely happy!!! After returning 2 Sony Vaios (Pro 13 & multiflip 13A), this one's a keeper!!

I haven't tested the digitizer yet, will report when I do so.

 

Yes, the stylus is small and uncomfortable to use for long periods of time. You'll want to order something else if you are going to be using it a lot.

 

I got my US digitizer edition a little while ago, and I didn't have any "digitizer hole" issues, everything seems pretty solid, love the trackpoint obviously, but the trackpad is actually very nice to use, and I haven't even disabled it yet like I usually do on my thinkpads.

One question.... there is some sort of film over the screen, and I can't tell if it should come off or stay on, around the camera hole, it looks like a removable film to protect the screen during shipping, but the edges are actually pretty clean, It doesn't seem to come off that easily... but I don't want to pick at it too much either if it is supposed to be on there.... anyone know if this protective film should stay on or off? Sorry if this is a strange question, but I really can't tell...

 

As far as I'm aware, that's the anti-glare film, and it should be left on.

 

hey all when I bought my yoga in Ireland got this code for 15% off accessories: OPTU15EDR . Hope I can save someone a few quid.

 

did you have to do anything special to get it to work.
i just got my thinkpad yoga i7 bought from newegg and hooked it up to my dell u2713hm that has 2560x1440 resolution. and it maxesout at 1080p

i am using a hdmi mini to hdmi cable that cam with my digitial (sd) video camera. it might not be 1.4 so i just ordered one from ebay that is supposedly 1.4 wondering if that is all i need is a better cable or if there is more to it.

on my old lenovo z580 i had to setup a custom resolution to get 2560x1440 and was only able to get 30 (refresh rate?) rather than 60 at that resolution.

Mark

 

Dell 2713hm has a HDMI 1.3 so it doesn't support WQHD at 60 hz. The U2713h with Premier Colour has HDMI 1.4. I was in the same boat.

 

It's a pen, so it's all personal preference. I'm using the pen from my X61T mostly because I like the feel of the felt nibs.The surface pro pen is probably the only one you can really try out, and that's only if you have a Microsoft store local. The Wacom Bamboo Feel pen is ok, but I'm not really crazy about the plastic or rubber nibs. I'll probably stick with the x61T pen or order the Fujitsu or the White pen with the eraser from Amazon.

 

From what I've read, Wacom's Feel Pen and the Modbook pro pens are the two favorites. I've not tried them out myself, but I have tried other Wacom pens and I say they feel great. My really old Wacom Bamboo pen looks very similar to the Modbook pro pen, so I'd guess that it essentially is apart from the fact that mine doesn't work on anything but the Bamboo. The Fujitsu pens had some good sayings too.

Basically, this.

 

Anyone know if local Microsoft Stores have any ThinkPad Yoga's on display?

 

If you care about the digitizer, no. They only carry non-digitizer models i5-4200u and i7-4500u. They're good for getting a feel for the device, yes, but you definitely won't get to try the digitizer.

My MS store had a few though the last I was there they said they don't carry it anymore in favor of the helix, though they would be bringing them back.
All in all, it's anyone's guess.

 

Thanks for the info RoboticDevice. I'll check my local store when I return to home in January. I don't mind if the digitizer model isn't there, but I'd like to see, hold and use the unit itself. I'm just hoping that the panel on the non-digitizer model will be almost identical to the digitizer one.

 

I don't believe there's a large difference between the screens themselves, though I do know that the digitizer model is ever so slightly (miniscule, indistinguishable by eye) thicker and (pen/digitizer weight) heavier (yet still miniscule). You should know just about everything you need from using one of theirs. Try the trackpad, despite how most people say they have huge issues with it I find it to be the most enjoyable trackpad experience I've ever had. Surface Pro touchpads were the worst. Despite how everyone compares it to the macbook, I'd say it's better though that may just be the Apple-hater inside me speaking. I do recommend disabling gestures, still. No point in having them on the touchscreen.

 

Well my TPY finally arrived after seeing more countries with UPS in 7 days that I have yet managed to in my lifetime... I got the I7 model with 8GB ram and 256 GB SSD and stylus / digitizer.

My first impressions: This is my first time with a thinkpad - I gotta say I'm impressed with the keyboard, definitely the best I've ever used on a laptop (coming from an HP Elitebook). The stylus appears to be in good health and no blackhole issues in site. I'm also impressed by the startup time of the SSD / windows - its really really quick! Overall I really like the build quality with my unit - and this is something I was really worried about after reading some of the posts on here.

So far I've managed to install Lightroom 4 and Adobe Photoshop elements 10 no problems at all with them.

The only issue I have right now is with the backlit keyboard which appears to work fine - but there seems to be a setting that is switching off the backlight, and I'm currently sitting in a room with the lights off to test this... I'm guessing there is some deeply hidden windows power setting that I'm missing somewhere. I'll try to search this forum for it - or if anyone knows off the top of their heads?

 

Press Fn + space bar to switch backlight keyboard on. There are 2 levels of brightness (press Fn + space bar to toggle between the 2 levels + switching it off).

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I would like to buy the Thinkpad Yoga with 500 GB HDD + 16 GB cache and upgrade it to a 1 TB SSD by myself.
I read that the HDD can be reached without much effort, but is this true for the cache too?

And what about the bios. Can i switch the mode to AHCI in the bios? I ask because there are some laptops on the market where the bios doesn't provide you that option >.<

Additional question: Did you get the Windows 8 key with your unit (or would you need to find it out with special software)?

 

Both the HDD and the Cache our quite accessible. Check the FRU videos here to see how to remove and reinstall them: RTPW1230_ThinkPad_YogaUltrabook

I am not quite sure about the bios.

You don't get the windows key, so you can use this software to get the cd key: KeyFinder | Magical Jelly Bean

I am also planning to switch the HDD but with a 512GB SSD. I won't be doing a fresh install of windows 8.1 however, I will just create recovery media unto a USB flash drive, then use that to install windows on to the new SSD, so I won't need to gain access to the CD Key.

 

Are you in the U.S.? Where are you shipping to and where did the product ship from?

 

I think the grid you are seeing here are individual pixels and it's not related to the digitizer. If you take a macro shot of any screen you'll see the same pattern.

 

BTW, I know there are ppl that swear by Wacom, but if you do not care about pressure sensitivity/tilt support in legacy apps (like Photoshop) n-trig is not that bad. In fact it's accuracy is usually better than Wacom, especially around the screen edges. I have an older dell XT2 with an n-trig and I get better accuracy on it uncalibrated than I can get from my TPY after doing a manual 200+ points calibration.

 

I just went and exchanged for a new TPY, I am currently very happy with the system. Thanks for the help guys!

 

OK so it wasn't so deeply hidden doh!
Thanks, that did the trick!