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    Lenovo ThinkPad Yoga

    Discussion in 'Lenovo' started by Bloody Nokia Adept, Sep 5, 2013.

  1. beckib

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    I just checked in Disk Management (Control Panel, Administrative Tools, Computer Management, Disk Management), and there is a 9.29GB recovery partition.
     
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    Thanks again beckib. I want the Lenovo setup, because I want all the drivers. I just want the machine to work properly, as I don't have time to mess around because I am already working all hours to get a project completed. Thanks for the swift responses. K
     
  3. hjm

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    What makes you think there's no recovery partition on the TPY?

    Code:
    
    DISKPART> list partition
    
      Partition ###     Type                Size     Offset
      -------------      ----------------   -------  -------
      Partition 1        Recovery           1000 MB  1024 KB
      Partition 2        System             260  MB  1001 MB
      Partition 3        Reserved           128  MB  1261 MB
      Partition 4        Primary            221  GB  1389 MB
      Partition 5        Recovery           15   GB  222 GB
    
    From windows 8 a recovery drive is created with Windows build-in tool: Create a USB recovery drive - Microsoft Windows Help

    These are the Lenovo instructions to create recovery drive: Methodology to create Recovery Media and reload a Lenovo Think system with Microsoft Windows 8 preload
     
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    Thanks enormously for this. I had assumed no recovery partition because no drive letter. Hadn't occurred to me to look at the disk manager for unassigned partitions. Being dim again.

    Thanks hjm and beckib.

    K
     
  5. iphetamine

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    Just out of curiosity, was the key lift and lock mechanism introduced before? Does lenovo have experience before the thinkpad yoga?
     
  6. godofwar424

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    No, its an all new design innovation that debuted on the Thinkpad Yoga.

    Lenovo doesn't tend to release a new design if its going to fail. They tested the thing around 25000 times without any issues. Hell Lenovo products even reach the standards for military specification.

    Say you go to tablet/tent/stand mode twice a day. Meaning the lift and lock system goes through 4 reolvutions per day (opened twice and closed twice). 25000/4 = 6250 days or 17.12 years without failing.

    Im pretty sure that should satisfy most users :p

    This is assuming that their 25000 times number is per movement meaning 12500 opens and 12500 closes.
     
  7. lednar

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    Does they charge your credit card then u place the order or later then they send the package out? I would like to place my order now, before my salary comes. Whats your experience? And does anybody know any working discount code what would work in shop.lenovo.fr ?
     
  8. godofwar424

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    They will place a hold on the funds as usual with any online transaction, but the money will not leave your account until the order is fulfilled which means once its shipped.

    The only code I could find for the France site was this: XMASYOGA13
     
  9. rabramov

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    All of the sudden my TPY won't wake up from sleep. Was fine in the morning, but now is stuck. The status led looks like it's sleeping, but it's pretty hot, so CPU/GPU must be running, there is no airflow though, so looks like the fan is off. And long pressing power button doesn't do anything. I could pop it open and take out the battery, but I want to try calling service center first. Hopefully this won't do any permanent damage... They should really provide some hard-reset option for those cases.

    Have I mentioned already that I wish I'd went with XPS12?
     
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    lead_org Purveyor of Truth

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    Hmm... I can't find it on mine. Either it's time to change my glasses or perhaps it's under one of the stickers? Can anyone post a full picture of the bottom of TPY with an arrow or something?

    BTW, meanwhile the battery has run out (which suggests it wasn't really sleeping indeed and makes the lack of fan movement and heat even more worrisome) and now I can turn it back on.
     
  12. trentb

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    Mine doesn't make a high pitched noise, just a low pitched hum like any other typical laptop or small desktop fan.

    That being said, when it kicks in with the laptop at an angle (think keyboard at 45 degrees from to right) it makes a clicking noise which I think may just be from it being slightly off balance at an angle.
     
  13. hjm

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    It seems nowadays people don't read manuals anymore.

    [​IMG]
     
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    Any way to change the default keyboard backlight setting to permanently on?
     
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    For those of you that removed the matte finish on the Thinkpad Yoga Screen (This bothered me quite a bit, the colors were so muted and the text even with brightest settings was quite hard to read). Did you notice any glue or sticky residue left behind from the matte screen protector? I thought the display was supposed to be Gorilla Glass 3, why did they need to muck it up with this...
     
  16. Hiro11

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    Hold down the power button until it restarts. I mentioned this bug a few pages ago. Flashing the BIOS fixed it for me and it hasn't reoccurred since.

    One other note: the Microsoft Store had the XPS 12 with 4Gb Ram, Core i5 and 128Gb SSD for $699 yesterday, not sure if the deal is still up. I bought one for my wife, that's a screaming deal. The XPS 12 is really nice. Keeping the TPY, though.

    A few other things I've run into:
    1. All Metro / Modern apps (Mail, Sports, News, Food, Skype, Ebay... etc) were opening to the splash screen and then crashing back to the Start screen. They would then open normally if I tapped them again. This was a hugely annoying bug as I actually like these programs. I had installed Symantec Endpoint Protection when I first got the computer to comply with my grad school's wishes. Given the fact that 8.1 has native anti-virus, I uninstalled SEP. Now, everything has gone back to working normally. This is apparently a very common bug based on the Google searches I've done. This is ridiculous, SEP is likely the most common anti-virus service in the world, most every enterprise uses it. It just doesn't seem to work with 8.1 yet. This might be Symantec's problem.
    2. Chrome seems to think it has crashed every time I shut it down and restart it. It gives me a "Google Chrome Didn't shut down properly..." error bar every. single. time. on app restart. This also seems to be a relatively common bug based on a Google search. No fix for this one... yet. A very minor bug, and likely Google's problem.
    3. The Lenovo Support program is USELESS. I has missed most driver updates that ARE ON LENOVO'S OWN SUPPORT PAGE for the TPY. Repeatedly, both it and Window's Device Manager will tell me: "yep, driver's up to date" and yet there's clearly a newer version out there. It missed the BIOS flash as well. How hard can it be for the program to check the driver versions and update them as needed? I really don't want to have to manage this manually. Also, did I mention the version of Support that shipped with my machine force-crashed every time I tried to launch it? I fixed it by manually installing a new version of the program but who the F tested this thing?

    Overall, I am not impressed with the number of bugs and glitches the TPY had out of the box. After ~ 2 weeks of fiddling I seem to have it operating smoothly and but it has been a journey getting here. Honestly, I can't really blame Lenovo for most of these. I think this is because 8.1 is so new. It seems like a huge amount of changes were made under the hood between 8 and 8.1 and perhaps 3rd parties haven't caught up yet. However, Lenovo needs to fix the Support program.

    Having said all of this, there are many upsides to this machine. Now that's it's working well, I love it.
     
  17. wka

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    So after about 16 days of regular use, the internal speakers stopped functioning correctly and I have to send it in for repairs. Sometimes they work, sometimes they don't and has a light static noise. That's too bad. But at least I get to see how good their support process is?
     
  18. rabramov

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    Thanks, it is under one of the stickers, indeed.
    TPY was the only computer I had at the time and reading manuals on iPhone is no fun at all. I guess some people memorize the manuals in advance, but that's not me ;-)
     
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    In the first unit I got the speakers didn't work at all, so at least you got 16 days out of them ;-)
     
  20. rabramov

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    As I've mentioned, I tried holding the power button. Usually it's ~10 seconds and I gave it about 60. And I have the latest BIOS version.

    Yep, I've seen the deal, but it only has 4GB of RAM which is not only impractical for any serious work, but just plain silly - RAM is the easies and the cheapest way to improve perceivable performance and squeeze a little more lifespan out of the computer.
    In fact, I blame the manufacturers - I realize they need to differentiate the models, but come on - it'll add another 5$ to the BOM and you'll give a much better experience to the users. Hopefully now, with Silvermont out and systems based on it starting to show up with 4GB RAM manufacturers will bump the minimum RAM on core-based systems to 8GB
     
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    I installed the "samsung magician" software today and it doesn't see my OEM samsung SSD 120GB as a real samsung SSD. that doesn't seem right :mad:

    Any ideas? Is there a way to verify AHCI mode?
     
  22. rabramov

    rabramov Notebook Consultant

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    AFAIK Magician doesn't work with OEM drives. I've seen some exotic solutions - like force-flashing the firmware to retail version, but chances are you'll just brick your drive this way.
    The Magician is certainly nice, but you can do most of the things it does manually - you can resize your primary partition and leave some spare space for overprovisioning, there are plenty of disk monitoring utilities and you can estimate the drive wear via SMART writes info. The only thing you are missing is the RAPID mode, which only works on EVO and PRO drives anyway and based on model number TPY have regular 840. (AFAIK Pros are MZ-7P, Evos are MZ-7TE and plain 840s are MZ-7TD and my TPY disk model is MZ7TD256HAFV)
     
  23. LordDG

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    If anybody purchased its TPY without additional warranty this offer might worth it:
    SAVE AN EXTRA 25% OFF
    WARRANTY UPGRADES. ENDS
    DEC 31ST. ECOUPON: OURXMASGIFT

    Simply put your serial number here : Warranty upgrades and support - United Kingdom and choose the extension. I just checked with the serial number of my returned machine and the same warranty options are available for the same price that are on the site now during the purchase configuration.
    If you order a new machine you not gonna have that serial number till you have the machine of course.
     
  24. rabramov

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    I second that - I remember it used to work great on my older Thinkpads/Windows 7. After upgrading to Windows 8 it all went sideways - basically update wouldn't find anything. I attributed it to an older Thinkpad model - I just assumed it will work properly again on a brand new, designed for Windows 8 Thinkpad. Not so - it still doesn't find anything, so it's back to manual updates from the Lenovo website, I guess...
    Too bad - system update was super useful. I remember a while ago they wanted to kill it off, but there was a serious public outcry, so they kept it going. Perhaps they've figured - instead of killing it we can just stop updating it and it'll die by itself?
     
  25. osubrad

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    There wasn't a residue, I had the same concern. There were a couple tiny balls of glue/adhesive, but they were easily removed.

    Removing the matte cover was the best decision I could have made... the screen is a million times better. I have no idea why they added the cover. The screen shows fewer finger prints without the film and the digitizer writes better.
     
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    Do you use your pen to draw? some of the reason the film is there is to give it a more grainy feel while people are drawing on the screen, helps artists draw more proficiently. anybody drawing with the film removed? any issues?
     
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    I was sure that this and glare reduction was the function of the film.
     
  28. hjm

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    I'm curious what sticker covers the reset pinhole, on mine it's is freely accessible?

    An iPhone indeed has a bit small and low resolution screen, don't have problems reading manuals on my HTC One.
     
  29. osubrad

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    No, I use the pen to write and take notes. I honestly like the feel of the pen directly on the gorilla glass.
     
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    Hello friends, I need help to decide if my new TY is OK or I better send it back :confused:
    The stylus should move the mouse when hovering, and click/write when touching the screen. The problem is, that the stylus sometimes clicking/writing when just hovering. The local retailer has said that the problem gone when turning the stylus sensitivity to low. Is this a proper solution? I can still send it back if it isn't normal behavior..
    Thanks a lot for helping :)
     
  31. Lasse M

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    HI.
    I CAN NOT get the TPY
    TO extend the display to My fuld HD Panasonic plasma tv
    Using the mini HDMI port to HDMI on the tv.
    Can Anyone help?
    Please asap. Ned it to entertain the Kids since the cable tv has been dug ud in the road
     
  32. beexsama

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    I didn't have this issue out of the box. Even after I removed the anti-glare film, I still never had this issue. I have also done a fresh install of Windows 8.1 and everything works fine. Make sure to also install wacom penabled drivers to see if this helps. If you already tried installing all driver updates and the issue persists even if you fiddle with the settings, then I'd send it back. If changing the settings helps eliminate the problem and the digitizer works for your purposes, then I'd rather keep it than go through the trouble. Also, if you do intend to sent it back find a local authorized repair center. I have not done so myself, but I hear you can drop it off to a local authorized repair center. Not 100% sure about this though.
     
  33. godofwar424

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    Definitely not how it should be, install the Wacom Feel Drivers, restart the PC and if the behavior still occurs then send it straight back.

    Its hassle to send it back but there's definitely a hardware fault if its still playing up and its better to send it back then for it to get worse later on and it will be much harder to return it then.

    p.s. I only ordered my Yoga 2 days ago and I'm already wanting it to just come! Got at least another 2 weeks :'(
     
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    Thanks. I may have to re-order my TPY depending on whats announced at CES 2014 now. TPY is a decent compromise. The lack of ports bothers me (Built in ethernet, and VGA, why on earth they went mini HDMI.... I will never understand). I like having robust ports on my laptop, if I wanted a limited device I'd stick with my thinkpad tablet 2.
     
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    when is CES 2014?
     
  36. soh5

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    I think it is the second week of January!
     
  37. KevTHC

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    I installed the Feel drivers, but don't see any evidence anywhere that they are installed. Shouldn't there be a control panel page for the setup of this driver?
     
  38. godofwar424

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    Have you done a search for "wacom". If that doesn't bring any results, try searching for "tablet" or even "pen". I'm assuming you know how to search in windows 8. Just go to the start screen with all the tiles and start typing

    Sent from my HTC One using Tapatalk
     
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    I just updated, here's how to check Dual Touch | Wacom Americas

    Settings are in the control panel.
     
  40. rotorb

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    Has anyone tried this on the TPY? There are reports of dramatic drops in temp/fan noise after doing so with other laptops. I would love to hear about actual results before attempting it on my TPY (I've never opened a laptop up that much before).
     
  41. KevTHC

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    Thanks - found the settings.
     
  42. soh5

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    I did not know you could dismount the heatsink and reapply thermal paste on ultrabooks.
     
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    Yes, of course this is possible. The only difference is that the CPU is soldered on Ultrabooks, so you can´t remove the CPU, but the thermal paste can be renewed like with normal Notebooks.
     
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    I have a non-US model and there is a sticker from a local FCC equivalent about not modifying the antenna or something - directly over the reset pinhole.
     
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    Hi guys,

    I just received mine, for the moment I don't see any hardware related problems, I was just shocked to see the notebook was sent in it's bare package. (no additional package to protect it)

    I have a few questions, sorry if it's already been asked :

    - In the solution center I have an alert telling me that a device is not installed but I can't find it in the device manager :/
    - I see 4 partitions, can someone explain what are they and what is safe to remove
    - Same thing for apps, what is safe to remove to debloat it ? I alreay removed office, nitro and norton antivirus

    Many thanks
     
  46. godofwar424

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    Don't touch any of the partitions. Some are Windows 8 related and 1 will be Lenovo related for recovery ect. Meaning you can easily revert to factory builds in case something goes wrong. They take up relatively little space around 1.5Gb or so overall. Not much point removing them.

    I would recommend browsing around Lenovo's support website and making sure you install all the drivers for your device from there instead of relying on their provided update application which has apparently become quite useless since Windows 8. Then do a windows update to make sure you have the latest software.

    As for bloat, just remove any of the applications you don't want from both Desktop mode and Modern (Tablet interface).
    Download Ccleaner to clean any temporary files every now and then.
    As well as using Ccleaner, go into My Computer, right click on your hard drive and select properties. Then choose Disk Cleanup and see if it finds anything you can remove (temporary files or old update caches etc.)
    Setup Windows 8 defrag tool to either defrag your hard drive every week or two OR if you have an SSD it will optimise it using TRIM functions ect.

    Other then that, enjoy your new laptop :D

    I can't wait to get mine, not gonna be here probably for another 2 weeks though :(
     
  47. Cygnust

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    Hi,
    Thanks for your answer.

    I already checked and installed drivers again, nothing changes.
    regarding the bloat, actually it was about many lenovo programs which I don't know if they are useful or not.

    [Edit]

    Ok .. seems like I screwed the recovery partition ..
    I just moved it to create a new data partition and now it's impossible to recover from it ..
    I checked and the partition is still here, data inside also ..
    Anyone could explain how it works ?

    btw I played a little with the laptop, and actually I'm really disappointed with the screen .. when screen is displaying black (like windows loading) I can see a white halo just under the webcam .. Don't know if it's already been reported
     
  48. Hiro11

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    A RIDICULOUS number of updates to drivers, settings and utilities as well as a new BIOS version (1.09) hit the Lenovo support page for the TPY on Christmas day. I just spent about an hour re-updating most everything... again. At this point, I think essentially every driver for the TPY has been updated in the past couple of weeks. Everything on my computer is operating pretty smoothly (for now). If you're having issues, you might want to check to ensure you have the latest version of everything.
     
  49. Zero000

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    How's the edge drift?
     
  50. Tim Q

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    From what I've seen on Youtube, it's still there, but I definitely think it's nowhere near as bad as it was on the X Series Tablets - On the top and left edges of the screen, about 1.5 cm away from the edge of the screen, the cursor gets dragged out by about 1-2 mm, while on the bottom and right edge it gets pushed towards the center, again, by 1-2 mm from about 1.5 cm away from the edge. This is from holding the pen at a 50-60 degree angle (how I normally hold my pen when I write).

    I can bully the digitizer to be severely inaccurate and get noticeable drift by holding the pen pretty much parallel to the screen, but I wouldn't (or anyone, really) do that in an everyday use case.

    What's odd is that the accuracy gets better in between that 1.5 cm mark and the very edge of the screen.

    20140102_113745.jpg

    Above is me holding the pen at about 1.5 cm away from the top edge - the pen is making contact with the screen.

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    Now I'm holding it within 0.5 cm, pen is still in contact with screen. You can see that the cursor now is pretty much under the pen tip.

    I have done both Wacom's 4 point calibration and this one: [HOW TO] PROPERLY calibrate your PEN and fix those stupid corners (273 test points) - xda-developers

    I think it's alright for my use case, but other units may differ. The model number on mine is 20CDA015AU.

    Here's a nice demo from Mobile Tech Review: Lenovo ThinkPad Yoga Wacom Pen Demo and Review - YouTube
     
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