Lenovo ThinkPad Yoga

What was the location of the scratch? That's what you get when Lenovo don't pay enough to those Chinese workers

I didn't get my replace unit yet...I hope soon.

 

The code was: 12CLOSE1223

 

I also would like to update my order to include the NFC trackpad, but as you later mention I too confirm Lenovo will not play ball and require the order to be cancelled and a new one made. Not as friendly as they could be.

I wonder if the NFC trackpad could be later sourced and retro fitted; any thoughts on the ease of doing this, voiding the warranty accepted.

 

Where are you? The i5/8gb has been offered in the US for a while (4300). I got it with the 128gb ssd and swapped it out for a 256 (and put the 128 in my desktop)

 

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Why are you mentioning Chinese workers? Almost every laptop is made in China so that's almost always a given.

 

Go to the Canadian site and add what you want in the shopping cart, make an account and save the shopping cart. Then go to the US site and click on CHAT on the top. If you ask for a discount and send them your shopping cart, you will get $200+ off the price.

By the way, beware that the TP Yoga on Lenovo's website has a Wacom digitizer while the one MS store sells do not! That's the main reason for price difference.

 

I ordered a TP Yoga + OneLink Pro yesterday,since I need a portable laptop and need the digitizer functionality for note taking (mainly OneNote).

However, the TP X1 Carbon Touch 2014 edition looks extremely attractive. I was wondering if anybody has used both TP Yoga and TP X1 Carbon Touch? How does their build quality, size/weight, keyboard and so on compare?

I am tempted to get a TP X1 Carbon 2014 and then buy a windows 8 tablet for inking on the side. But I am not really sure its worth it.

 

Got my TPY today - so far, so good: i7-4500, 500 GB HDD + 16 BG SSD M2, with stylus. Machine is fine. I kicked out the HDD and installed 1TB 840 EVO. Works like a champ. My question: what to do now with M2 SSD? It is shown in HDD manager, but I can't do anything with that part. I tried to bring a partition on, no success. So what? Should I kick it out as well?

 

If you want to take notes , then don't get the X1 Carbon Touch 2014.

It's not worth it to buy another Windows 8 tablet. How many things do you intend to keep on you?

If you want an ultrabook and a tablet PC , just buy one of these.

 

I'm in Canada right now. But I checked both the Canada and U.S. websites and I can't find a way to make the i5 4300 available with 8GB of Ram. Am I missing something here?

 

I wasnt able to get my Thinkpad Yoga with i5 and 8gb of ram...

I am wondering if these people who got the i5 with 8gbs are from EU

 

As the i7-4500U now fits your requirements why must you get a 4600U? The performance difference is negligible especially compared to the price and waiting time increase. If you want it quickly why not simply order from a retailer with a decent returns policy?

Also the turn around time from the UK store is 17 days as long as you don't choose NFC touchpad, not too bad for a laptop that's built to order from China.

 

The Lifebook T904 has one MAJOR flaw. Single channel RAM :/ Which basically nerfs the iGPU in the Yoga..

 

I understand why they can't change the order. From the sound of it, once you place an order and its accepted. It goes straight to their distribution centres system which places it in a manufacture queue. Once your laptop reaches the top of the queue, its starts being built. Probably for reliability reasons and part stock they won't let you change configs once in the queue as a part (such as the nfc touchpad) could take a few weeks longer then the originally ordered part and it would then screw up the whole queue in terms of efficiency.

The Yoga with a NFC trackpad takes 4-6 weeks to be built which indicates they have the NFC touchpad ordered and being manufactured, but it is not yet at their distribution centres (being manufactured in bulk and then delivered within the next few weeks I assume)

As for retrofitting, I doubt there will be any actual retrofitting issues in terms of the trackpad itself. BUT somebody will have to take apart a model with the NFC touchpad in order to inspect the motherboard and compare to look if the non NFC models have the NFC chip on the motherboard but just software disabled due to lack of antenna or whether there is no actual nfc hardware. Its a full on shame that the M.2 port is not the PCIe variation because then even if there was no NFC chip we could probably find an M.2 NFC card with antennae connector and just use that But alas the M.2 port is Sata3 only

 

1. Choose i5-4300u
2. Expand motherboard options
3. Select second motherboard option
4. Observe change to 8GB ram

It is an expensive upgrade.

 

Thanks for that. Think I will stick with my order, got to draw the line somewhere.

 

The motherboard options is not there on the Canadian site.

 

Doesn't the ThinkPad Yoga have only single channel memory as well? I see 1 x 4 GB and 1 x 8 GB and that's all. The RAM is soldered on the motherboard.

 

The LIFEBOOK T904 looks very interesting! Any comments regarding TB Yoga vs Toshiba LIFEBOOK T904?



By the way, the following eCoupon: 12CLOSE0113 gives 12% discount and works on the Canadian and US site.

 

From what I read in the whole thread all 192 pages is that the ram is dual channel for the Thinkpad Yoga. Someone please correct me if I am speaking nonsense.

 

I am having an issue with my laptop's power management. It doesn't go to sleep after the time set in the power option setting passes. Can anyone help me fix it?

 

The Fujitsu Lifebook T904 should be superior in almost every way.
My 2008 Fujitsu Lifebook T5010 tablet performs better as a tablet than my 2012 ThinkPad X230t.



Remember that Fujitsu invented the iPad.

After Apple copied Fujitsu , most people thought that Apple invented the iPad and the "tablet" experience.

 

Nope, its been confirmed as being soldered on in dual channel mode

NOPE, for the pure fact that it uses Single Channel RAM the T904 won't even compare to the Yoga especially seeing as itll probably cost double the price!

 

The digitizer on the T904 should be superior. How many Fujitsu tablets do you own right now and how many ThinkPad tablets do you own right now?

I buy a tablet to write on it so the performance of the digitizer matters the most.

Fujitsu knows how to implement the Wacom digitizer better than Lenovo.

BTW the screen on the Fujitsu is superior to the one on the Yoga.

 

All - I had to return my two week old TPY for repair (I believe they swapped the motherboard), and it came back to me late and with the wrong processor (I sent them I7, they sent me an I5). I am now returning the TPY for credit. Maybe they'll get their act together later and I'll reconsider . Good luck to everyone else!

 

You didn't get the on site warranty?

 

Thinkpad Yoga will be my first Lenovo tablet but my second Wacom device. They all seem to perform about the same. Slightly weaker on the edges but from what I have seen of the digitiser performance on the Yoga and the Surface Pro its pretty perfect. My Ativ 500T was brilliant for writing clear and clean notes so I will take your "fujitsu know better" comment as just some elitist view of "oh but this tablet is 0.00002mm more accurate" Something the majority don't care about especially as thats useless for writing notes.

If its good enough for artists then its more then good enough to do some writing on.

The screen on the Lenovo is decent, if your talking about something like resolution I honestly don't care. Over 1080p on less then 15" screens is just idiotic for a laptop as Windows Desktop just doesn't scale well, I don't want an iPad with stupid scaling.. The Thinkpad Yoga's resolution is PERFECT for the size of the device. Great compromise between high res screen for the Tablet stuff and still being Windows Desktop compatible.

Sure the Fujitsu might have a better panel (contrast and colors), BUT for twice the price it better bloody have that!

Not meaning to sound offensive but if Fujitsu know so much why would they put Single Channel memory on a device with an iGPU that relies on the System memories bandwidth?? That's just plain stupid! It nerf's the iGPU from 25-50% which makes the Fujitsu unacceptable for me, especially at that price.

Finally, the Yoga has a better keyboard and is known for their excellent strength of construction, not to mention the hinge design is MUCH sleeker then Fujitsu's swivel design (OFC that's down to opinion, but seeing as its my money to spend my opinion is what matters)

This is all opinionated and subjective but forgive me for not agreeing with your oppinion

Ps. I am not saying the Fujitsu won't have a superior panel and wacom implementation. I am simply saying it is definately not superior in every way. Only 2 from what I can see, and those 2 things don't matter to everyone the way to they do to you

 

I can't seem to find the "motherboard" options on the U.S. or Canadian site. All I see is the memory option with 4GB as the only option. What else am I missing here?

 

Sorry, I mis-typed. It's under GRAPHICS options, not motherboard. Expand graphics and there will be a second option that appears the same, but when selected will also swap to 8 GB memory with the i5-4300u.

Sorry again!

 

@odie - Ah alright I can see it now! I wonder how the i5 4300 compares to the i5 4200 in terms of battery life since the 4300u has a 2.9 clock speed vs a 2.6 clock speed. I know the i7 with the 3.0ghz clock speed loses significant battery life over the i5 4200u

 

You are right. I have the same thought. Since portability/battery life is my primary concern, I am resigned to getting the 4200U/4 GB to maximize battery. I don't anticipate needing 8 GB most of the time.

 

There's not going to be any noticeable difference between the 4200U and 4300U and not really worth any extra cost in both battery and moneys.

I wouldn't bother with the 4300U but to each their own

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Hey guys, will I be able to encrypt my hard drive on the ThinkPad Yoga even if I don't get Windows 8 Pro?

 

Anyone installed Linux Mint or any Linux distro to dual boot with the existing Windows 8 in the TPY? I would like to hear your experience. Please also provide a link to any good tutorial that tells us how to achieve this.

 

It's becoming a consideration. The Surface Pro 2 is a nice looking machine, but the screen is that much smaller, and the keyboard isn't as good as one like the Lenovo, and the docking options aren't quite as compatible as the Onelink Pro dock (as my monitors don't support Displaylink daisy-chaining, and so the Surface dock would require another hub attached to allow for dual external displays)

And I guess the 17 days puts it as arriving just after I get back from a holiday. And I would have the on-site warranty from Lenovo. I'll hold out until the 20th, and if the 4600 is still unavailable will order the 4500.

And I could just restore the machine image that I took off the TPY that I returned and so save half a day of configuration right there.

Might give them a call and see what they can do for me price-wise.

 

If u need digitizer for mostly OneNote, then u can buy any device with touch screen and use any capacitive stylus. So u could save about 200 usd with that solution and you have lot more tablets/laptops to choose from. You can find many example how people draw beautifully detailed pictures just with capacitive stylus (like for ipad). You just have to find stylus what fits your hand and your needs. And as u mention you can also buy smaller tablet for drawing/inking.

 

No, that would surely have helped, wonder what the cost for that is?

 

Lately we are getting mostly positive opinions from new TPY owners. Some have problem with sleep/wake stuff, what might be mostly software issue. So you can check if a clean boot helps to eliminate software conflicts and to determine what is causing the problem. Search keyword kb929135 to get instructions how to perform a clean boot. Or maybe somebody have a better solution where to start solving these kind of issues.

 

Yeah just not using Windows BitLocker which is built into Windows. Pro is pretty unnecessary unless your hooking the laptop into a business environment etc.

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2 year on site warranty with accidental damage cost me about £200. Without accidental damage its about £120 but I feel its all worth it just in case.

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Hi guys, as far as I know and I have read, warranty is upgradable. Just because you don't have the on site warranty, does not mean that you can not add it onto your current warranty if you pay the difference. Just call Lenovo and ask how much more it will cost you if you would like to add it.

 

Hi guys, wondering if anyone can help me identify that this is in fact the correct wireless card.
On my order detail list I have the following: Intel 7260 BT_ACBGN
Is that the same as Intel Dual Band Wireless 7260AC with Bluetooth 4.0 or is it the Intel Wireless-N 7260 2X2 BGN+BT

Can someone please help me clear this up? Thank you!

 

Bitlocker only comes with Pro version

 

No worries. As long as you see "AC" somewhere in there you should be okay.

 

Well I took the plunge.

I got the i5 4200U with 4GB of RAM and AC with a 12% discount estimated to ship January 29.
I also got the One Link Pro dock for $143 (20% off) using a birthday coupon estimated to ship January 18

Excited to let you guys know what my observations are once they come in early February

 

Thanks soul347! I just taught it was confusing the way they named the part on the order list.
Btw...I just ordered mine too estimated shipping date is January 28th . Suppose to be at my home by the 4th of February.

 

So, I got my OneLink Pro dock and set it up (and let me tell you - crawling under the table routing cables is no fun at all).

In any case, it works, I've hooked 2 external Dells at 1920x1200, plus the TPY screen is on too. The DPI scaling wouldn't work properly, but fixed itself after a reboot. USB works too, tested an external HDD with USB2 and USB3 ports and USB3 ports performance is equal to ones on the TPY itself (although you really need an SSD to properly test that, which I didn't have). It worked out of the box, but I've also installed OneLink drivers from Lenovo's website - it added an icon to the system tray that is supposed to notify me when the dock is connected (duh) and offer some shortcuts to system options (which doesn't work). You can turn the TPY on/wake it up and put it back to sleep via the button on the dock. Haven't tried Ethernet yet. It comes with a 90w power supply and a DVI-VGA converter.

Problems:
- I had TPY hang on me while setting up the dock, I'm not sure if it was just the display that wouldn't come on or the whole machine, but I had to long-press power button to restart it. Only happened once so far
- It complains about unrecognized USB device from time to time and there is a "Unknown USB device (Link in Compliance Mode)" device showing in Device Manager. I've installed One Link dock drivers but it didn't help
- The headphones out is not dumped when the dock is off, so there is a very audible noise coming from the speakers/headphones when the dock is off (disconnected or the laptop is sleeping)

To sum it up - it serves it's purpose (for me - being able to hook 2 external monitors).

If you have specific questions - ask away.

 

Yep, I saw that in specs, but I've just dismissed it as a mistake. It would be really weird for them to cripple the laptop like that for no good reason. Their previous models had 2 slots and some manufacturers do soldered RAM on the board + additional RAM slot (in which case you have to match the RAM to enable dual channel, but that's better than nothing).

I guess we'll find out when it finally comes out and reviews will start showing up...

 

What does this 90W power supply mean? Dock has battery, so I can work longer without pluging into wall socket?