Lenovo ThinkPad Yoga

12CLOSE0127 doesn't work anymore

 

Just got my computer in today.

It has the same LG panel as was listed earlier. I do see one small flaw in the computer so far. If I push on the edge of the bottom panel between the Kensington lock and the mini HDMI port, it makes a clicking noise.

Does anyone else have that? I just hope it wasn't damaged in some way.

 

Mine doesn't do that, but I've removed and replaced the bottom panel so many times already. If it is clicking you really don't have to worry. The bottom panel is just a thin sheet of magnesium alloy, but nothing more. If it REALLY bothers you, you can play around with it by getting a screw driving and perhaps tightening/loosening the screws or even removing the plate and putting it back on. If you can live with it, I wouldn't bother because it doesn't make much of a difference.

 

Are you ordering from the U.S? It's very easy to do a live chat with a rep and get another code or ask for another deal. Which configuration did you want to get?

 

That i5 configuration you listed is EXACTLY the one I wanted because my plan was to just swap out the 500GB HDD and replace with a 500GB SSD, in which you now saved money on the SSD, and you have the HDD as a backup/spare. Unfortunately they don't offer the 4200u with 8GB of RAM nor do they offer any HDD options in Canada. You save a lot of money going for the HDD, then you can buy a 256GB or 500GB SSD for rather cheap compared to what Lenovo is offering. I went for the i5 4200u because it is reported to get around 1hr to 1 hour and a half more battery life which is HUGE and the performance gain is almost unnoticeable between i5/i7.

If I had no other choice and self upgrading wasn't an option, I'd still for the first i5 option, because you save money, and you get the extra space, but these days having an SSD is almost a must because of the huge performance boost

 

Trying to get a i5-4200u, 8gb, 128gb ssd, 1920x1080 digitizer which comes to $1,429.00

 

Alright so I got to really stress test my OneLink Pro dock. As I type this I have all of these connected simultaneously to the onelink dock:
-Full HD monitor connected via dvi
-Head phones connected while listening to music
-Powering a laptop cooling pad
-Transferring a 20GB folder via USB 3.0 External HDD at 110mb/s
-Connected to the internet via Ethernet

No disconnections or hit on performance whatsoever. The internet is also blazing fast. I've been using wifi for the past years I almost forgot how fast Ethernet can be. Thumbs up!

 

Try adding one week to the date at the end of 0127, so try 12CLOSE0203. That's the pattern they've been following.

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Doesn't work yet, so they haven't put it into the system, or it's changing soon.

On another note, hopefully they add NFC and HDD options soon.

Speaking of options, there are more options under Graphics in the "More Memory" configurations that shoot the price up by $10,000 and changes nothing. Hopefully no one orders this.

 

So you are saying that We can use the SSHD like an external hard drive, Am I right? Ummm, its true, I forgot about the "tiny" available space that I'm going to have with 256 GB hard drive. With this movement I have the performance boost and also the space.

 

If you don't really need the extra oomph of i7 (for compiling, video editing, etc.) - go for i5 and replace the HDD with an SSD yourself (Samsung 840 EVOs work great - lots of ppl here have installed those in their TPYs). You'll get better battery life, but while synthetic tests show 1h+ improvement, I doubt you'll see more than extra 30m in real life. But for the price difference you'll probably be able to get a 500GB SSD.
Do not stay with HDD - the performance difference is huge and the 16GB caching drive gets you nowhere close - it's like putting a lipstick on a pig. If you can't do the upgrade yourself - find a friend/technician to do it for you.
Also, some ppl are trying to reuse the small caching SSD as a regular drive or to buy a larger (128GB) mSata drive and swap it with the caching drive. Personally I don't get it - those drives are small and slow, so you are better of spending money on a single large 2.5" SSD.

 

Does anyone know what the return policy is?

It's a sad day, for I've decided to return my TPY. In the end it was simply the 12.5" screen that I couldn't get used to. The text was crisp and nice, but just too small for me to do real work. I loved so much about the machine, but after a month of having it I've decided that a 13.3" is minimum for me. I got mine delivered Dec 23, and it was a perfect specimen. No quality problems except for the webcam which seemed to be offset at a small 1 or 2 degree angle. Everything else was perfect. i5-4300, 128 SSD, AC wireless, 8.1 Pro, 8GB, everything I wanted.

There is a 1920x1080 13" yoga coming out next month that would solve my screen requirement, but it won't have the onelink, has only 1 USB3.0 and uses a micro HDMI. Maybe TPY 2.0 someday....

 

Thanks.

What about the warranty? I asked for the change to SSD on my own to the seller and they told me that I had to ask to Lenovo for that. As far as I known Lenovo let us to change this without any warranty problems but here, in Spain, Lenovo offers 1 year of warranty (the international warranty) and the second one (we have always 2 years of warranty) is up to the seller.

And last question, Could I convert the SSHD in a external hard drive? What should I buy or do to obtain it?

In any case I am thinking about the price difference. The Samsung 840 Evo 250 GB costs me 150 euros, so the difference for me between i5/256 GB SSD and i7/256 GB SSD is exactly 96 euros and imo i7 worth it in a device which costs more than 1400 euros. I think if I go for i5 I'm going to use the SSHD for several months and then yes, in the end of this year I buy a SSD, maybe for those 150 euros I could get more GB. Right now Samsung 840 Evo 500 GB costs me 290 euros. Maybe in December...

 

In terms of warranty there are mixed messages - according to Lenovo support documentation the HDD/SSD is optional-service CRU ( System Service Parts - ThinkPad S1 Yoga) or not ( http://download.lenovo.com/ibmdl/pub/pc/pccbbs/mobiles_pdf/s1_yoga_hmm_en_sp40A26742.pdf - page 55). Optional-service CRUs: You can either install the CRU yourself or you can request that a Service Provider install the CRU according to the warranty service for your product. AFAIK nobody had problems with warranty so far with replaced disk (for the laptop itself, obviously, not the new SSD), but that might be because nobody has tried yet. You can always keep the original HDD and just but it back in before sending your TPY to service.

As for SSHD - I'm not sure I understood your question, but I'll try to answer anyways. The HDD inside TPY is not an SSHD.
SSHD is a spinning hard drive with some amount of SSD cache (usually 8GB or so) built in. The drive controller manages the cache internally and transparently to the user/system - so it basically looks/works just like a regular drive - only (supposedly) faster. And yes - you can put SSHD drive into an external USB enclosure.
The drive inside TPY is a regular spinning HDD with no built-in SSD cache. There is a separate small (16GB) SSD drive inside TPY connected to mSATA port that is used for caching via a combination of chipset support and special windows drivers. You can take the HDD out and put it into a USB enclosure and you can also take the mSATA 16GB drive out and put in into a special USB enclosure (like this one: MyDigitalSSD Bullet Proof USB 3.0 mSATA SSD Enclosure Adapter Review | TweakTown), although this would just give you a physically larger and a bit faster disk-on-key, so I'm not sure if it has any real value.

 

Unfortunatlely I think you may have surpassed your return policy if you've gone beyond 30 days. Your best bet is to keep the laptop in good condition and sell it via online ads. I've sold plenty of stuff on kijiji. If you know how to advertise properly, the ThinkPad Yoga can sell within days or even hours, especially with your configuration.

 

I'm going to check that with Lenovo.

Ok, my fault. Reading 500GB SATA 5.4K + 16 GB SSD on the shop page I thought it was a SSHD, not a mix between SSD in the mSATA and HDD in the SATA. In this case I'm only have to put the HDD outside to use it like external disk. I asked you about SSHD because I thought that with SSHD, as they check the most common uses, maybe they don't work properly without the user data.

It would make sense to buy a mSATA SSD to use it for windows and programs and leave the HDD for films, pictures, etc? However, I would have to clone windows in the mSATA disk and then erase all of that from the HDD.

Thank you very much for all, maybe the easiest thing for me is buy the i7 model.

 

I'm trying to decide between this and a 13" macbook pro retina. I'm leaning towards the yoga because of the stylus support but I'm worried about the ghosting issues that I'm reading about. Is this really an issue on all of them - since they all use the same LG panel - or is it an isolated issue? The mac seems to have had similar issues but it looks like Apple has acknowledged the problem and is swapping out panels.

 

Yup, returns must be done in 14 days not 30 days. anyone want to buy a nice TPY without waiting?

 

Depends where you are?

 

Sorry bud. I'm sure you'll be able to sell it quickly. Where you at?

 

Had my TPY for a few days and haven't noticed any ghosting issues. I haven't done any thorough tests to see if there are ghosting issues, but that is simply irrelevant since the ghosting issue never happens in my every day use. Even if I do notice ghosting take place down the road, it wouldn't be a big deal as it is only temporary and doesn't really interfere with anything. Perhaps the only people it would affect are those who are really OCD or those who have to do really precise graphics work, but even then it may not appear in that use case. It certainly hasn't appeared even once while I've been using my Yoga. I'd personally choose the Yoga over the MacBook any day because of the versatility and usability of its form factor combined with Windows 8.1. If you're a normal mac user, then I'd go for the MacBook.

 

I think there is a random quality of the panels. So some are worse than others. The big thing is that it's getting worse over time and use. It starts after some weeks with the windows icon in the taskbar. Than you could see the edges of an opened explorer window or office. And in the end you can see for example the whole text you wrote in word one minute ago. Just turn to an grey, blue or purple kind background. And there are some apps using this colors. I can also see it while switching to watch some pictures or so on. My TPY needs now after two month about 5 minutes to "forget" the last background. For "remembering" are 30 seconds enough. I hope my new panel will be better. But honestly I'am not really optimistic.

 

I would like to see pictures that show the ghosting problem.
Or is this a campaign of an opposing manufacturer? ^^


I got my new TPY after i had to retour it due to a defect mini-HDMI. My shop (campuspoint) was crazy fast and made no mistakes with the new unit. It's working like a charm and i am quite happy so far. Will test the Onelink Pro Dock tomorrow

 

Called in today and they could only give me a 12% discount (though he wouldn't email me anything or tell me the code) for student discount (US). I guess I'll wait a little bit to see if anything better pops up.

 

Not my link, but here is one.

http://i1316.photobucket.com/albums/t605/Tim_Qi/20140126_134655-Copy_zpsf6421eeb.jpg

You have a harsh black and white picture, and you then switch to a neutral gray picture, and you'll see it. When I saw it first hand on a XPS 12 at Best Buy, I could see a ghost "start" button on the Metro Start Screen, and the after-image of a tab from Google Chrome.

I bought the TPY myself after that, thinking I had made the right choice, but then I learned it has the same darn screen...T_T I've only had it for a day, and I'm a light user of my laptop, so hopefully I won't be seeing ghosts for awhile...I know it's only a matter of time though, and I'm dreading it, as I'm OCD about that kind of stuff.

 

I finally tried this, my pen only shows on the TPY monitor. The mouse, no matter which external monitor it is on, switches to the Pen input on TPY screen. Moving the mouse, the arrow cursor then returns. (I use a DynaDock and an external microsoft mouse).

Sorry, can't replicate.

 

Hi guys...been in the market for a new laptop for a while and I've whittled my choice down to the Sony multiflip 13 and the TPY....

Slightly leaning towards the TPY at the moment as I think it will hold up over a time. I suppose my main issue with it is the weight. From the reviews I've read online quite a few people seem to have sent it back for that reason. Unfortunately I'm based in the UK so I haven't had the chance to play with it in any shops. The flip definitely wins in the weight and fashion stakes....

Lenovo quoted me £1,145 for the i5 digitizer model with a 256ssd, windows 8.1 pro and dual band wifi. Without the ssd the price goes down by £106 but I reckon that's a decent price for the upgrade (would be good to buy it with the base 500gb hdd and then upgrade later and keep the 500gb as backup as suggested by soul347 but I'd prefer not to mess around with the internals for a while)

Without windows 8.1 pro the price goes down by £66. So what does everyone think...happy with your purchase? Would anyone opt for the flip 13 instead given the choice again? Thanks....

 

I just got my TPY today. I've been lurking this thread for quite some time, and while there's some great information here, I'm having some fairly major issues with trying to get Windows 8.1 x64 back up and running.

Config
i7-4600u
8GB memory
Intel 7260AC WiFi
128GB SSD (changed to 512GB SSD)

Problem Description
I'm installing Windows 8.1 x64 from a 256GB USB 3.0 stick that was set up using an ISO with Rufus USB. At first, I couldn't get the USB stick to boot up. I had to go into BIOS and disable Secure Boot, then set 'UEFI/Legacy Boot' to 'Legacy Only' and 'CSM Support' to 'Yes'. Then the Windows 8.1 installation procedure went okay. Now here's the funny thing...

Installing drivers goes okay right up until Webcam/Audio. Any attempt to install these results in a restart request, but then Windows always fails to boot. It just hangs at the start up screen, then eventually gives me a BSOD. The BSOD message seems to be random and not always the same--like a bad stick of RAM (I know this stuff is soldered). Just now it told me the MBR is corrupted and cannot be repaired (re-install required). The weird thing is the machine worked fine on the stock 128GB SSD.

Perhaps I have done something wrong with Rufus' ISO initialization? The instructions a few pages back weren't 100% clear, so I guessed my way to it. I'm after re-installing Windows three times now, and since I'm a sucker for punishment, I'm going to go for a fourth just to be sure. This time I will skip webcam/audio drivers.

Also, this machine idles in the high 40C to low 50C range. Prime95 gives out after 15 seconds--the CPU throttles to 1.8GHz and desperately tries not to explode (max temp is 76C). I tried re-pasting, but the screws used on the heatsink are too small for anything I have, so I decided to skip that for the time being. I've got something coming to hopefully give me access to the heatsink, but right now I want to workout this Windows issue.

I will gladly post temp pics as soon as I can get this thing up and running.

 

That's interesting. I am connected to 2 external monitors, one through the dock, the other through the mini hdmi on the thinkpad. Now the pen only shows up on the TPY itself. Perhaps it is an issue when I use the monitor connected to the one link dock only

 

When I was in the market for a laptop, the Sony Vaio Multi Flip and the ThinkPad yoga were my only 2 options I was debating between. I got to try a Multi Flip at a store. In the end, I'm really glad I opted for the ThinkPad. Here is why:

-More rugged and durable. The sony felt really delicate and fragile
-Keyboard and trackpad is better on the TPY, but some aren't fans of the trackpad. I personally like it a lot
-TPY runs rather quiet, where as I heard the sony has the fun blasting even when you're not doing anything heavy
-In terms of the different modes, I really prefer the 360 degree mechanism of the TPY over the flipping screen of the sony because it seems more durable and stable
-TPY pen fits into the computer and you don't have to pay extra for it
-Screen hinge can tilt all the way, while the sony hinge has limitations in terms of angle
-OneLink docking option for TPY
-I trust Lenovo more than Sony in this area

In terms of the weight, the TPY is quite light, and I'm coming from using a Surface Pro. I haven't weighed it side by side with the Sony, but the weight definitely doesn't bother me. I compared it side by side with my sisters MacBook Air, and the TPY seemed only slightly heavier. On paper, the TPY is .5 pounds heavier than the MacBook air. That is like attaching a touch cover to a Surface Pro.

Anyway, hope you make the right choice. I'm sure the sony is also a good machine in it's own right. In the end it is all about your own personal preference.

 

Are you doing this because you're trying to do a clean install of windows? Mine is working fine, but I cloned the original drive. Are you willing to go this route or you really just want a clean install of windows?

Also what happens when you put the original drive back in? Does everything work properly with no problems with the camera drivers/audio drivers?

 

Perhaps you have a bad 512gb ssd? I did exactly the same thing, everything works fine for me.

 

I got a TPY for a family member, almost entirely because it seemed to be the best laptop in that size range with an active digitizer. It will be used for giving presentations and annotating slides while doing so - so VGA is basically a must. I picked up this active mini HDMI to VGA adapter for $28: MINI HDMI TO VGA ADAPT CONVRTR F/ DIGITAL STILL/VIDEO CAMERA - DirectCanada

I just wanted to report here that I tested it out on my 1080p TV and on a 20" 1680x1050 monitor and it worked flawlessly on both. So if anybody else needs VGA capabilities on the go, you can give one of those a shot. I'll try to report back after having tried it on a low-res 1024x768 projector (yeah... they're still out there).

I thought about making a separate thread for this, since it might be a common concern for people, but I put it here for now. If anybody thinks it warrants a separate thread feel free to go right ahead.

Edit: Amazon.com link for $25: http://www.amazon.com/StarTech-com-Adapter-Converter-Digital-Camera/dp/B00BZQQMK0

And a different brand (which I haven't tried, of course, but reviews seem good) for $17: http://www.amazon.com/Cable-Matters-Active-Female-Adapter/dp/B00879ELGA

 

I mostly agree with Soul. I bought the Sony Flip 13a as soon as it came out, but returned it and am now a proud owner of a TPY (only had it for 2 days so far so will report back more soon). I returned the Sony for so many reasons I can't type them all out on my phone (although if you want I will write them out when I wake up properly on the TPY). Yes the TPY is noticably heavier and the screen is smaller and less beautiful (although viewing angles were bad on the Flip), but the TPY is so much better overall I'm just blown away by it. I wouldn't advise anyone to touch the Sony with a barge poll, seriously it was awful!!

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Hey Guys, I've been reading this awesome thread for a while now and have to say a big thank you to all who have contributed here. I have now bought a TPY, which I recieved a couple of days ago and so far I love it to death. As I mentioned in the previous post I came from a Sony Vaio Flip 13, which I returned due to many faults (Overheating, underpowered [by about 60-70% due to heat], short travel/wobbly keys, poor battery life, digitizer grid ruined viewing angles, full of bloatware, painful to use on lap due to sharp metal edge sticking into legs when the screen goes past 90 degrees). All this really killed it for me, but I did find the screen a nicer size and the colours were much better than the TPY, The weight was also nicer, but it didn't feel very strong for any of the metal they used and the battery life was abysmal! That said the actual flip mechanism was brilliant, it was just the rest of the machine that fell flat. All in al I am much happier with the TPY (OMG the keyboard is so nice coming from the Sony!!!). I will talk more about why I love the TPY so much when I've had it a bit longer, but for now I wanted to ask a question for you seasoned Wacom pen users if I may:

I bought this pen for use on the TPY:



I have installed the Wacom Feel drivers, so I now get pressure sensitivity in Photoshop and the eraser works perfectly out of the box, but I can't seem to access any settings to assign the 2 extra buttons. I would like to set it up like it is on my intuos where the bottom one is right click and the top one is middle click (for 3D software) and they can be clicked while hovering, but I can't see any way to do this yet.

I'm sorry if there is a post in here that covers this already.

Thanks in advance

 

You can find these settings in "Pen Tablet Properties" in Control Panel. For hover clicks you need to click "Advanced" in the Pen sub menu.

 

I connect one external monitor via the mini hdmi on the laptop itself and when I try the stylus in the TPY monitor, it just moves the mouse to the corresponding place on the external monitor. However, in the Windows monitor setup, I have the external configured as the primary, so that my secure RDP session comes up on the external. So maybe it us to do with which monitor is configured as primary.

 

This is what was happening on the Macbook's with an LG panel. If it is anything like that on the yoga then it's just unusable for serious graphics work and no consumer should accept it as being normal.

The specs and build look great but Lenovo won't get my money until they address this issue.

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Hey, that's exactly my screen. Waht the hell does it do in an Macbook .

I will make some pictures. It's not so easy to make a good picture of the screen but i will try.

 

When I rang the other day they didn't want to discount the price till I added 1 years warranty, I think he gave me 5%? Looks like you got about 10% ?

My spec was :-
8gb Pen
i5
Windows 8.1 (didn't need pro as I won't connect to a domain server)
Wireless dual band.
1year extended warranty
£1100
If I buy ill upgrade hd to 1tb.

 

Ok, here's a picture of my wall after i removed some screws. The content is irrelevant, it depends just on the color. It's not the best one but I hope you can the the base problem. And no, I do not have the Windows Icon painted on my wall nor is it a campaign of an opposing manufacturer - unfortunately.

 

Ok, so I've actually mislead you a bit - the caching SSD in TPY is not an mSATA, it's an M.2 (NGFF) SATA - which is a newer format that allows smaller cards. AFAIK the largest SSD you can get for it currently is 128GB from MyDigitalSSD and it is rather slow. Personally I would instead spend my money on a larger 2.5" SATA drive.

As for i7 - that is what I got, but I need it for the horsepower (I run VMs and compilations, sometimes several of those at once) and I have replaced the 256GB SSD it came with (also Samsung, BTW) with 500GB Samsung 840 (I think I'll upgrade it to 1TB when prices will drop a bit). The process is pretty simple and there are videos available online, although prying open the back panel for the first time does takes some patience.
I do not care for the battery life that much as most of the time it's docked via OneLink Pro dock to 2 monitors at my desk, but I needed something portable while on the go, yet powerful enough for work at the desk.

 

Anyone know the model number of the screen in the yoga? If it's LG LP125WF1 then I would surely return it and demand a refund.

Look at the dell xps 12 threads the issue just returns after a few months even after getting a new LCD:

Has someone noticed ghost images (screen burn-in) on Dell XPS 12 Duo? - Laptop General Hardware Forum - Laptop - Dell Community

http://forum.notebookreview.com/dell-xps-studio-xps/693432-xps-12-owners-lounge.html

They need to do a complete recall.

 

Yes I think the issue needs to be addressed. I want to order a yoga but this ghosting issue is making me hesitate.

What's funny is that the watermark thread over at the Lenovo forums:

Thinkpad Yoga watermark screen issue - Lenovo Community

has been marked "solved." If you read through to the latest post (just 2 pages) you'll see that there has been NO official response from Lenovo and the problem really hasn't been solved, or even acknowledged.

I know some have said they have yet to notice any image retention, but many accounts are insisting that it doesn't begin for a few weeks. Perhaps new owners can keep an eye out for it, and those already experiencing this ghosting can post in the above thread. If more people speak out about it maybe Lenovo will address it.

It seems to me like they're trying to ignore it...

 

Ahhh, I've read about that connection and I didn't know what is it. If it is slower I am not into it.

How many hours do you get from i7 on average? I'm not going to use it in the same way but only to get an idea of it.

And what about the temperatures? I know that TY is pretty cold in comparison with others laptops but I only have data from i5-4200u.

 

My Panel is

ID LEN40E4
manufacturer LP125WF2-SPB1

What did you have. Are there all the same panels or did they use different one?

I really know the topic about the xps12. I had one before (since 2012). This Problem was the course for the TPY and now it's all the same.

 

Thanks very much Tim! Gave it a quick go in 3Ds Max and it works perfectly! Much appreciated!!

So glad I went for a wacom enabled tablet in the end too. Never found a way to do this with the Sony machines and these Wacom pens work really well on the TPY!

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For those of you who cloned your drive and self upgraded to an SSD, you will notice that you will no longer have access to your recovery partition, you won't be able to reset your pc to factory default settings, and you won't be able to make a recovery drive on to a USB flash disk.

BUT I was able to find the solution to this problem and now everything is working flawlessly. Let me know if you'd like to know the solution

 

I don't own one, the LP125WF1 is apparently the faulty panel that that the XPS12 uses. But judging from your panel it doesn't look like the WF2 is any better. I was planning to order the Yoga next week but there is no way I'm going through the hassle of dealing with a faulty product. Really sucks because it looks and sounds like a great machine otherwise.

I'm hoping they will resolve it soon but I kind of doubt it. I think Apple did but they sell so many of those machines that an issue like that gets much more attention from the press. I don't see this issue popping up on the front page of Engadget or the Verge any time soon. Maybe they would do a news item if it was about the LG panels in general since it seems to affect at least 3 different manufacturers.

Instead of just reporting on specs they would do the public a much bigger service if they kept an eye on questionable business practices. Like manufacturers secretly swapping to cheaper components once all the reviews are in.

 

Quick update on my TPY troubleshooting.

Right now I have the unstable Samsung 840 PRO 512GB SSD in my desktop (Win 7 x64). Upon detection, Windows 7 said the drive is corrupt and needs to be formatted. How interesting. So I formatted it as NTFS/4096 allocation, and am now running a checkdisk on it. Checkdisk is about 1/2 done; may take a long time/all day.

In the mean time, I've re-installed the stock 128GB SSD and the TPY seems to be operating normally. I also re-plugged the SATA ribbon cable to the motherboard and triple-checked it's in there nice and tight.

I will try loading up the stock drive with apps and things I normally use to see if I get problems with it.

Anyone have experience in RMA'ing Samsung SSDs and where/how to start the process? I am leaning towards the 512GB being faulty. It'd be my first ever faulty SSD out of the 9 (mostly Intel SSDs) I've ever had.