That is quite strange. My Samsung 840 Evo 500GB is running perfectly fine with my TPY and I've already written a lot of data. The 840 Pro should be 10x more reliable than the Evo. Send it in for warranty if it's really having a problem.
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Any recommendation for a SSD for my TPY, Currently I have the 1tb with 16 GB SSD. If I install a new SSD (512GB) what happens to my 16 gb ssd?
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hey folks,
I got a slight issue using the pen and its side button with OneNote.
If I press the side button (to erase), it does not function. However, if I move the pen away from the detection distance, hold the button and bring it back forward it now detects the press and enables the erase. To get back to writing mode, I have to do the same thing (move my hand away, and then bring it back with the button unpressed).
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Hi everyone, I wanted to make a review here especially for those who might be contemplating purchasing the ThinkPad Yoga:
Body: Solid aluminum feel, very sturdy on top, bottom and on palm rest. It can be used as a hard blunt object to ward off robbers. Unfortunately scratches very easily, and loves fingerprints. Build quality on my unit is practically perfect. No loose or uneven surfaces. Everything is as it should be.
Weight: Love the weight. Feels nice and solid, but not too heavy. Just feels slightly heavier than a Macbook air. I used a luggage scale to weigh it while inside my laptop shoulder bag with the power adapter, ereader, and other accessories, and it came to exactly 6 pounds, which feels comfortable. The laptop by itself is 3.5 pounds.
Display: Sharp and clear, works perfect at 125% scaling. It appears to be optically bonded to the glass, so practically no space between the screen and the glass which helps with glare. Anti-glare screen protector does a good job at dispersing glare, and feels nice and smooth on the fingers. Also gets even brighter than my Surface Pro, but you need to turn off battery saving settings or it will be even abnormally dim. If you're the type to easily notice if colors are off or if you do graphics work, you'll want to use the color calibration file that one of the forum members made because out of the box colors are not exactly the most accurate (e.g. whites are a bit yellowish). As of yet, no ghosting or flicker issues.
Digitizer: Gets the job done, but definitely small and cheap, and has no eraser function. Out of the box, it was horribly inaccurate, but works great after doing a 273 point calibration even along the edges. Glad the pen fits in the silo so it goes with you everywhere and harder to lose, but you'll probably want to buy a better separate stylus. Works great with the Surface Pro digitizer. No black hole issue
WIFI/Bluetooth: Simply solid. Far better than the wifi/BT on my surface pro. Have not had a single dropped connection, and always full bars on wifi. Bluetooth devices connect right away, unlike the random drops and long connection delays on my Surface Pro. By the way I am using dual band WIFI AC, but I heard the non dual band wifi is just as reliable.
Hinges: Feels solid and should last for years. Not too stiff, but not too loose. Can stay firm at almost any angle. What's not good is I get a lot of screen wobble when touching the screen, which is more of an annoyance than an inconvenience.
TrackPad: In theory is great, but software needs tweeking. When I press down and do a full quick, the cursor will move and sometimes miss its target. Scrolling works, but doesn't behave exactly as it should. If your fingers are moist, it won't glide too well on the surface, but otherwise its nice and smooth. Click and drag works nicely. Trackpad is not bad, but could be a lot better.
Trackpoint: This is my first ThinkPad, and I can honestly say I actually find the trackpoint useful in certain scenarios. Once you get used to it, it feels accurate and reliable. Works well with the fully clickable touchpad buttons IMO.
Keyboard: Probably my favorite part of the Yoga. In my experience, having too much travel is not good, as well as having too little. The TPY I believe has found the perfect sweet spot and my fingers can really fly on this thing. I have a lot of confidence when I type on this keyboard. 2 backlight levels work great in the dark and it's all you'll ever need. Lift 'n' lock ability is a very welcome feature for the other 3 modes.
Speakers: Decent volume, but lacks depth/bass. Gets the job done if you need speakers on the go, but you'll want to use headphones/external speakers for a more positive experience. Much louder than Surface Pro speakers.
Charging: Takes around 1 hour and 45 minutes to charge to full while laptop is on. Takes around 1 hour and 15 minutes to charge while connected to onelink pro dock.
Battery Life: I have the i5 4200u. I'm getting around 7 hours of active office use, 50% brightness.
Startup and standby: I can honestly say this machine probably has the fastest startup from cold boot I've ever used at around 7 seconds or less from off to start screen. From sleep it's even faster and you barely lose any battery while on sleep mode. I love how the thinkpad light slowly blinks on and off while in sleep.
Upgradability: You can only upgrade the hard drive, and it is quite easy to do if you know what you're doing. Got a 500GB Samsung 840 Evo working flawlessly with it. Everything else is fixed. As on any computer, you'll need to reassign the location of the recovery partition if you want it to work properly on the new drive. Ask me if you need help with this.
Temperature: Heat management is great. Does not get too hot. It only gets comfortably warm. Fans haven't come on very often for me, but when they do they are tolerable.
OneLink Pro: Have had a few minor issues, but on the most part it works as it should, even when using many ports at the same time. Was able to connect a monitor, T.V., hard drive, ethernet all at the same time. It also charges your computer at the same time, which is great.
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I installed WoW and tested complex key-combinations - with success!
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I recently swapped the main drive in my T440p and used Windows to copy the recovery partition to a USB drive from which I re-installed the factory image on the new drive. During the re-install, Windows also recreated the recovery partitions on the new drive but I've no idea if they work or not (and hopefully I'll not have to use them since they'll send me back to Win 8.0). -
Another update on my TPY.
Well, I resolved the 840 PRO issue. Using check disk in my desktop system along with not using the Intel RST driver appears to have resolved the problem. It seems that using the Intel RST driver (directly from Intel's site) was the culprit of 'destroying' fresh installations. I don't dare try the RST driver from Lenovo either; lesson learned. I'm just going to stick with the default MS driver. It seems to be working well and not affecting speed.
The good news is that this new SSD is substantially faster than the stock drive. Here's a picture for comparison (along with my horrible writing while testing PS with pen):
Note that is without any tuning inside Samsung Magician (it wasn't even installed when that benchmark ran). Color me impressed. The only thing is that the high CPU temps are preventing this machine from fully stretching its wings. I tried playing CS:GO (1280x720 everything low) and it was hovering mid-40's for framerate for about a minute, but eventually tanked to low 30's/high 20's due to thermal throttling. Frustrating. I will report back when I get the right tools to gain access to the heatsink.
In the mean time, a few questions:
1. How can I get back Lenovo's power management? It currently refuses to install. I must be missing something. I've already installed Lenovo's Dependency Package, yet no success for getting back their power management. Step-by step instructions greatly appreciated.
2. Speaking of power management, how do I use the program that limits battery charging to a certain percentage? That seems like it would be incredibly useful.
3. Is there a way to force Windows 8.1 to re-calibrate the pen? Mine's slightly off and it's irritating.
4. Can you re-calibrate the touch zones? I have larger fingers than an average person, so that also gets frustrating.
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Thanks for the comments guys, especially soul347. I think I've made up my mind now so probably going to pull the trigger tomorrow!
Nick - wouldn't you prefer an ssd drive over the 1tb upgrade? The performance of the ssd drive will result in lightning boot up times and an all-round snappier performance.... -
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3. [HOW TO] PROPERLY calibrate your PEN and fix those stupid corners (273 test points) - xda-developers
4. Control Panel - Tablet PC - Calibrate - Touch (Don't press Pen, calibrate that using the above link)
As for gaming, try not to rest it onto a duvet or lap where the vents are blocked. I use my DualShock 3 controller so I stick the laptop either in Stand mode to let the vents breathe OR tent mode as that way none of the vents are even remotely blocked by any surface (table etc)
You can alter thermal paste and seriously void your warranty seeing as its not something you can go back on and is EASILY detected by Lenovo unless you have some Lenovo stock thermal paste lying aroundThe problem is not the thermal paste, its the fact that this is an ultrabook, if you want it cool when heavily gaming get a little laptop cooler that works via USB
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1. Attach the new SSD to the computer via USB 3.0 external hard drive enclosure
2. Clone the drive using EaseUS Todo Backup Free
3. Swap the drives. Voila!
I ran into a problem of accidently detaching the cable that connects the SSD to the motherboard unknowingly. Otherwise, it works without a hitch. The method you did also works, but it takes longer to do. If you want to know if your recovery partition is working properly, just type "create a recovery drive" in search and see if the box that allows you to copy the partition on to a USB is selectable. -
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Thanks for the directions on calibration. I'll get at that tomorrow.
Anandoc - That worked great. Thanks. +Rep.
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Hey Folks,
I´ve spend reading this thread for the past 3 days ... 250 pages ... It is great to get an general impression about the TPY. Currently I´m looking for tablet/notebook, that I can use in university for things like taking notes, coding with MATLAB/Simulink,LabView, AVR, a bit CAD and sometimes light gaming (Minecraft, GTA SA, GTA IV, Battlefield 2, COD). Is it possible to do this and run some of these games on the TPY?
I would probably get the i7 version with 8GB Ram. I don´t know, if I should get the 4600 or 4500 version.
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On a side note M.2 standard also allows PCIe connection, which supports SSDs hitting 1GB/s and more, but the M.2 slot on TPY does not support PCIe and in any case - the physical space available would still be a limiting factor.
As for temperatures - that depends on what you are comparing it to. It definitely runs hotter than my old T400 and the fan kicks in much more often, but then again - T400 is twice as thick and has a much larger fan, not being an Ultrabook and all. For the most part if you are not stressing it - it runs cool/pleasantly warm around the vents area. If you push it harder it will get hotter and fan will come on and it might be classified as a bit whiney, but it never got to a point where it was uncomfortable to hold.
I run CPUID HWMonitor all the time in the background, so I have some statistics - the CPU idles around 42-27C (116F), but I've seen it go as high as 86C (186F) and the SSD idles around 38C (100F) and goes up to 46C (114F) under heavy load. -
Grand Theft Auto 4 is probably a pipe dream on integrated graphics--I wouldn't even bother. The other games you list should work fine, although I have doubts about CoD if it's any of the newer versions. -
Can someone with TPY & OneLink Pro dock confirm the issue I'm having with the headphones socket plz.
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I'm not a gamer, so I cannot comment on the advantage of extra 0.3 GHz in games, in Matlab, CAD and such you probably wouldn't feel the difference, but in any case you won't be able to get a sustained high clock speeds as TPY would heat up and throttle - it's cooling system cannot cope with the CPU running at max clock speeds for long. You might be able to do some external cooling - like a laptop base with a fan or something - I've seen some of those, but I don't know if this would actually work/produce any tangible results. -
For those who cloned your TPYoga drive to a new SSD and installed the drive into your TPY, you will notice your recovery partition can no longer be accessed, and therefore you can never reset to factory default settings in the future if you'd need to. Don't worry this is entirely normal, and there is nothing wrong with the recovery partition. The reason this is happening is that the recovery partition on the new drive is now in a new location, while windows thinks it is still in the old location since you merely cloned the drive. You need to "inform" Windows of where the new location of the recovery partition is in order to recognize it. First you will have to find the new location of the recovery partition, then you will need to input the "coordinates" where Windows gets this information. Here is exactly how to do it step by step:
**See both attached diagrams for reference
1. On start screen, search for "command prompt" and run it as an administrator by right clicking it and selecting "run as administrator"
2. Type " diskpart"
3. Type " list volume"
4. Type " select volume=4" (or whatever volume number has the recovery partition)
5. Type " detail partition"
6. Copy both the guid number and offset number EXACTLY. *See attached diagram
7. Locate this file --> C:\Windows\System32\Recovery\ReAgent.xml
-Change editing privileges: right click >> properties >> security tab >> Change permissions EDIT button >> Select "Users (*Your computer name*/Users)" >> Full Control >> Apply, etc.
-Open this file in word pad
-Look for " PBRImageLocation" and set the offset and guid accordingly. Triple check to make sure it is exact. *See attached diagram
-Save
8. Open command prompt again as administrator
9. Type " reagentc/disable"
10. Type " reagentc/enable"
To check if everything worked properly, type "create a recovery drive" in search on your start menu and see if you can select the box "Copy the recovery partition from the PC to the recovery drive." It might be wise for you to actually get a USB and make a recovery drive right then and there so you can boot to it and restore your system if ever anything goes wrong in the future or if you upgrade to another SSD.nacy333, clriis, godofwar424 and 5 others like this. -
Can you replace the RAM in this thing? Does it only have one slot?
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RAM is dual channel and is soldered on, so cannot be upgraded or replaced. Be sure you purchase the configuration you want from the start (either 4GB or 8GB)
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Has anyone here successfully removed the anti-glare screen protector that comes on there TPY? What was the result?
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could i buy the dual band card and replace my single band card in the laptop. If so what do I need to do with the laptop (With the drivers?)
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Hello everyone,
I've had my TPY for three days now. It's been a fantastic little machine, running cool and quiet, performing like a champ. I'm a light user for the most part, but in that time, I've loved the feel of the machine, and I think it's a nice piece of kit.
However, I know that the ghosting issue will eventually surface on the machine. I know that I'm the OCD type, and it'll bother me. I've already set my screen saver to kick in after one minute, trying to forestall the issue as long as possible. I try to limit the amount of time I have any one fixed image on the screen, but I know it'll happen (LG, you really dropped the ball on these panels).
Currently, I have the three year warranty with depot service and accidental coverage. I called and tried to get my warranty upgraded to have on-site service, but they only offer that with two year or four year warranties.
So, I'm trying to decide what to do, and I'd appreciate the advice and insight of other TPY and Lenovo laptop owners. This is my first Lenovo, so I'm unfamiliar with the quality of their service, especially regarding issues like this.
Should I:
- Keep the TPY, accept the ghosting issue, and just stick with the warranty I have, even knowing I'll have to send the laptop in when the ghosting gets too annoying for me to deal with, or when I know updated, fixed panels are available.
- Keep the TPY, accept the ghosting issue, but change my warranty to the two-year with the on-site service, so replacing the screen is less of an issue.
- Return the TPY, as this issue is ridiculous at this price point, and write the whole thing off as $200 computer rental for a week (I hate restocking fees).
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Hi, I've had my Thinkpad Yoga since about the 7th / 8th Jan. One problem I seem to be having is that my wi-fi keeps dropping out. mainly when I am at uni. I don't think the problem is the uni wifi as my phone is able to connect to it without a problem. Sometimes I have to click to connect again or I click on troubleshoot and sometimes that resolves it but less often lately. I've restarted my machine and it's still not connecting to the wifi. It seems to be happening quite regular is there away to stop it from happening or, without having to shut down the laptop as I usually have a few things open so it's a bit of a pain. I try turning on and off Airplane mode and also the W-fi off and on in the network connection bit but that doesn't solve it.
Is there a new driver? I'm not sure how to check or a simple way to check? I don't seem to see an updated driver through their support page.
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I do a lot MATLAB stuff and I need to import a large amount of data from a database and convert the database structure to MATLAB arrays and structs, and you are a lot better with a machine that has less cores and a higher clock. A average i7 is way faster than a XEON machine that has more cores but less core clock... -
By the looks of it, this thing has affected you so much that you're worried about the issue even before any signs have appeared on your panel. If you're this bothered, I would just return the machine before your 14 days are up. I am pretty sure there is no restocking fee as far as I know and they probably pay for your return shipping label (double check these things just to make sure). The reason I suggest this is because even if you upgrade your warranty and such, chances are you're just not going to be happy with your machine in less than a years time, and don't count on Lenovo replacing your panel with a better one. Even if you claim warranty, they will just replace your panel with the same one, and you'll be back to square one again. You can have even have a 4 year warranty, but you're going to be so unhappy with the machine by that time that it won't even be worth the hassle to get it fixed. -
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When connecting the laptop to an 23" Samsung monitor via mini hdmi to hdmi, I can't remember the model number of my head but it's a few years old the screen is not of a good quality. It's like when you plug a laptop into a TV with some over scaling around the screen. The monitor is also 1080p, it's so bad that I would rather read on my 12.5" screen than the 23" one as everything is jagged. I have not got around yet to trying i on my Dell 27" screen but I'm hoping it will be able to output higher than 1080p on that but have a doubt as I heard something about it has to have hdmi 1.4 to support higher than 1080p, I think my monitor has hdmi 1.3 it's Dell U2713HM I think, but I ain't been staying where it's kept lately so I haven't tested it yet.
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I've been reading this thread for a while but for some reason I took my time in signing up. Now I got a lot of things I would like to ask and share. I find the sound quality of the mic quite bad or really poor. This could be to do with settings or maybe it is just poor. I've used it to record audio in oneNote during lectures and classes and the sound quality is really bad. It's worse than my 4 year old laptop that this replaces, not that that was any good (it was a Samsung Q440 btw). If there is anyway to alter it I would appreciate if somebody could let us know. With the trackpad I don't get that scroll button? the raised dots between the left and right red lines? it doesn't seem to do anything? I press it, scroll on it and nothing happens, could somebody tell me how that is supposed to work please. I also don't like the travel on the left click on the trackpad. I ain't got used to the red nub yet either. I do like the keyboard and the pen, the trackpad is good except for the click travel. I did an update yesterday and the 2 finger scroll is very fast so I'll have to change that.
What is the amount of time you have to return this laptop? I've had it from around the 7th January. I've been busy with assignments (still am) so I have just not looked into it but I do not feel entirely happy with my purchase at the moment.
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