Lenovo ThinkPad Yoga

That is really helpful information, in That Case it should have enough powert for my CAD needs as i really wont be doing anything Huge, thank you

 

this is EXACTLY what i needed to hear!

Tyvm!

In 2007, I got the black Macbook (non-PRO) with Intel 2.0 Ghz Core 2 Duo and Intel 1000 HD graphics with only 2GB of RAM; and I used to do a lot of illustrator + photoshop + indesign work for school without any problems at all. I also used to play games like WoW, WC3, few other games like PES and Tomb Raider Anniversary at a very decent performance.

I'd imagine it'll only be more capable with Intel's 4400 graphics. However, I just have no information of how significant the improvement is of the 4600U i7 chip over the core 2 duo.

on paper, it's the perfect machine for me. I'm just not sure of how it'll actually perform in real life.

Also, is there a way to confirm when the newly "fixed" TPY will be out? I'm talking about the ones with the new panels and fixed/improved hardware?

Thank you all!

 

So far officially there is nothing to fix – Lenovo just started to investigate some complaints.

 

Awwwww.... Really?!


Sigh... I need to get a laptop pretty bad asap. I already checked the alternatives (Acer's S7 and Dell's XPS 12), but I still think the Thinkpad Yoga is way better for me. I've also considered getting the Yoga 13 (Ideapad model of last year) instead IF ONLY they'd refresh them with Haswell CPUs instead of Ivy Bridge --then maybe next TPY would be more solid and stable in terms of both features and performance? I've also considered the MBP retina, but I keep leaning toward the TPY everytime I compare the two.

Should I just buy one now and get it over with? Or would you guys advise me to wait a little longer instead?

I relive this dilemma ever single day since they introduced it back in November.



thank you very much for the reply. Much appreciated.

 

When I was looking replace my old Latitude E6400 (2.16GHz C2D) I looked at the T440p and T440s and read through a bunch of benchmarks from NotebookCheck. Overall, a higher end ULV processor like the 4600U looked like it was ~2X more powerful than my old C2D while the quads of the T440p would be ~4X more powerful (I ended up going with the T440p with a 4700MQ). In terms of graphics it's a much larger lump (more like 5-10 times) though the GPU architecture has changed so much since then that I'm not sure how easily they can be compared.

 

Yup, see yourself: Re: Thinkpad Yoga - ghosting / after-image / wate... - Page 16 - Lenovo Community

I am also not decided between this and few other alternatives: Dell XPS 12 and IdeaPad Yoga 2 Pro. As far as I know Dell XPS 12 has the same screen "problem", but check your self to be sure. Did you look into IdeaPad Yoga 2 Pro? It's as powerful as ThinkPad Yoga, but I like ThinkPad's keyboard more, so I'm just waiting for official statement from Lenovo about the screen.

 

Hey guys, I can't speak from experience with the TPY (will be able to next week if mine delivers on time ) but I have created, manipulated and rendered dense 3D models on the Wacom Companion in Maya and Zbrush. The Companion uses the older HD4000 graphics card as well, so the TPY will have no issues with any CAD programs. Here is a handy list of programs that will run on the Surface Pro and Pro 2 (i5-4300, 4-8gb ram):
Surface Pro 2: What Runs, What Doesn't

 

If I were you and I was a few months back I would just go for it!

Only a few people suffered from noticeable image retention that actually made using the device impossible. Many of people haven't experienced any ghosting at all after weeks and even months of use. I trust Lenovo to sort out the display issues if they really are a serious widespread issue. So just get the screen replaced in a few months

It really is a brilliant device and besides the image retention there aren't any other problems with the device.

 

Note that XPS12 has the exact same display panel as TPY, so if you are worried about the ghosting issue this applies equally to XPS12, and yes - there is a long thread about this on Dell forums too. I can't say if 100% of the panels are affected but it's pretty much the same gamble as with TPY.

 

I realize that you are trying to help, but I think that definitive statements like "Only a few people suffered from noticeable image retention", "Many of people haven't experienced any ghosting at all after weeks and even months of use" and "besides the image retention there aren't any other problems with the device" are inappropriate. Unless you have access to internal Lenovo's customer support database with exact statistics I fail to see how such conclusions can be drawn...
Just to give you an example, according to this this thread and based on my own experience there is an issue with TPY and OneLink docks which might be a hardware problem with TPY. Naturally if this is the case this can probably be fixed with a board swap, but still - this doesn't really sit well with the "besides the image retention there aren't any other problems with the device" statement.
I think providing personal experience or a summary/reference to the experience of others is a better way to go.
Not trying to attack - just saying that people often treat comments on forums as an expert advice, so there is a certain responsibility here.

I'd go over this thread and read up on actual user experiences - some positive, some negative, some have returned their TPYs, some have kept them and are very satisfied - there is a lot of good info here from real-world use, and then try to make up your mind based on your own use-cases.

 

I agree that most people have only a data sample of one or two (if they ever get a replacement). But the sampling from internet tends to be biased, for the obvious reason that the more unsatisfied ones are more vocal.

As for myself, I only have half a data sample from a display unit in a Micro Center. My impression is that the screen looks ok without obvious problems, though I don't like the protective film on it.

 

The image retention to the point where the machine is UNUSABLE has only been reported a few times. Slight image retention sure but even then its clearly in the minority unless you think Lenovo only sold 50 or so TPY over the last few months.

The internet is always going to have more negative because majority of people who buy a laptop and like it don't have a reason to go and complain or ask for help.. Therefore internet forums will give you an incorrect view of the amount of affected devices. Out of the thousands of devices that have been sold there are less then 100 or so people replying to this thread and lenovo own thread. You should take that into account.

Now the guy asked a question and I gave him MY OPINION and it was the exact same position I was in and I simply told him that I went for it and if the screen does in the future act up I will just get it replaced. It is 100% my opinion. I didn't guarantee him no problems did I?

Finally as for the dock, I said the device itself has no issues. The dock is an accessory I do not have and he didn't even mention it in his posts so I didn't feel it was relevant. Also this dock is most likely a driver thing as all the problems are random disconnect errors. Something firmware updates and drivers can surely fix, unless you somehow know otherwise that the TPY is the reason the dock software is buggy?? What hardware could even cause that besides the port itself and its pretty impossible for every TPY to have a faulty port especially as this port is available on other laptops.

PS. Ofc I don't want him to blindly follow my comment, but I am a very satisfied user and I'm just saying my experience etc. I expect as he found this thread he is going to have a gander through the thread and make his own decision. Its a lot of money to go blindly by what one guy on a forum says.

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Interesting. I tried high performance profiles locked at 100% clock - obviously there is a performance difference, but I don't like it - the fan works overtime and it is too whiny and annoying. I didn't know you can fiddle with core parking, though, I'll definitely try that.

 

So ai finally received my TPY yesterday evening. The quality seems really nice and there's no image retention issues yet (as expected since it's brand new).

My huge annoyance is what they've done to thr trackpoint. The lack of deducated buttons is driving me nuts. Pushing the giant touchpad down to click is straining my wrist (no joke I had to take ibuprofen this morning from it, but I have wrist issues to begin with) and it's really loud. It seems that Lenovo has specifically blocked the ability to tap to click if you use thr trackpoint. It's so bad. So i thought I wouod try to use the touchpad, I owned macbooks in the past and they were alright, just not my preference, but when I click on the TPY touchpad the mouse often jumps and doesn't click.

I'm going to give it a few days, but I think it's going to be sent back and I may be back to Macbooks.

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I actually find this touchpad superior to the one on my mates MacBook Pro. But I guess its an opinionated thing. I have got used to mainly just lightly tapping for a left click and then two finger tap for a right click. Clicking the trackpad isn't necessary all the time but I guess it will take some adjustment.

I can't speak for the Trackpoint as I never used one before owning the TPY but I don't experience the same wrist pain you seem to have. Maybe its just another adjustment thing? Probably find that in a few days time your very used to it, MacBook's just don't come close to the usability of a hybrid device like this for me but to each his own!

Hopefully a few days with it will help, have you updated to the latest touchpad drivers and had play around with the touchpad settings?

 

Here is the latest on the progress of the TP Yoga and OneLink Dock issues:

Just to let everyone know though that I personally haven't had too many issues with the TPYoga and OneLink Pro Dock. I have had some ethernet flapping and usb disconnections, but I'd say 90% of the time things are working fine for me. But there are definitely issues that need to be resolved that some experience more than others

 

Oh yay, I've spent hours messing with the drivers, and trying to install the Synaptics driver. Oddly enough if I just uninstall the driver and use the default Microsoft one then the touchpad allows me to tap to click when I use the trackpoint. So it's actually a feature that Symantec implemented that disables the touch to click when you use the trackpoint. ugh.

And I agree completely that a Macbook doesn't give the functionality of this machine, but I have a Surface Pro and figured this machine could meet my laptop and tablet needs the same way my previous x200t, x61t, and x60t tablets did, but I guess not. I could use a Macbook and the Surface and probably end up better off. I've stuck with Lenovo for many years because of the trackpoint, and haven't looked elsewhere because it's a unique feature. But I will very likely give the Fujitsu T904 a try next month, or a Macbook pro along side my Surface Pro. If you're not a long time dedicated Lenovo user that loves the trackpoint then I can understand your indifference, but if you've stuck with Lenovo for years because of it, then it's very frustrating. There are many other threads online about this issue alone on all of the new Lenovo machines.. Maybe they'll listen to us.

 

Yep, that's kind of a pain, indeed. I wish they'd give me an option to allow tapping instead of clicking when using the trackpoint (even if this means that I have to disable the touchpad completely). Also there is no way to configure the zones for the right, left and middle buttons for trackpoint use - I keep hitting middle button instead of the right one...
It is only a driver issue, though, so one can hope they'll give us the option further down the road, or maybe some 3rd party hack will pop up.

 

FYI - according to the thread on Lenovo's forum this is indeed an issue with the TPY and they'll be rolling out a new bios version that should fix that - ETA - mid March.

[my speculations]
Based on reports that other Thinkpad models do not have this issue, that some of the TPYs have this issue and some don't (with the same exact dock) and that fiddling with the power management settings and disabling some devices can help alleviate the problem, my guess is that it has to do with the TPYs USB controller handling the OneLink port on the electrical level. USB standard defines some very specific tolerances in terms of voltages, currents and timing and multiple components can affect this - from the controller silicone itself, to the impedance matching resistors, to the the firmware, etc... The fact that they've been able to fix it via a BIOS update (assuming it'll actually fix anything) might mean that this was a firmware-configurable parameter, or that they had to do a workaround - like doing more aggressive keep-alives to prevent suspend/sleep sates, etc. The latter would probably mean that we'll be paying for it somewhere else (like with the Yoga 2 Pro 13 yellow tint fix that had reported impact on the brightness levels and battery life), but at this point I don't care - as long as my mouse cursor stops having seizures...
[end my speculations]

 

This morning my Yoga encountered a little bug, other than that it's still running fine without any problems after 3 months of usage.

 

Just got another email from Lenovo stating that due to high demand, my order has been delayed again. When I called to get to the bottom of it the lady looked up the "1" part that's missing. That's right. Just one part. The damn stylus. The stylus? I've been waiting weeks and it's delayed till the middle or end of March because of the stylus. I told her just ship me the thing and I'll use one of the ones I already have. But of course they "can't do that". So I cancelled my order. I noticed some of the vendors got a shipment of the top of the line one. So I bumped up from the i7 4500 to the i7 4600 and went from the 500gb HDD to the 256 SSD. It's already shipped and I'll have it by mid next week.

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Just wanna chime in on this delayed order fiasco. I ordered mine in early February and the original estimated shipping date of 2/20 was changed to 3/7 and since 3 days ago, 12/30 with a laughable delivery date of 2015/1/8! Obviously these dates are unreliable (or at least I hope so). After emailing Lenovo Japan about the delay a few days ago, the response I got was that 'parts had not arrived yet'. I assumed it was the NFC as was mentioned earlier in this thread, and on Japan's TPY order page, it states in red that ordering the NFC can delay shipment 3-4 weeks. Of course this NFC notice appeared over a week AFTER I placed my order. Anyway, I also ordered with the 4600u, 256gb ssd, and 1080p screen with stylus.

 

Where do you think we'd have to "pay" for it somewhere else? Perhaps in the battery life? I wouldn't mind that since battery isn't an issue when I'm plugged into the OneLink. It would be a terrible tragedy if battery life is affected when on the go. What I'm wondering is why I haven't experienced the issue as intensely as some others. Some report that every 5 minutes, or when watching a youtube video things start going crazy. I have watched plenty of youtube videos on Ethernet without a problem.

 

Comparing the Yoga 2 screen fix to a USB controller setting is extremely unreliable.

The screen is usually a big consumer of power and the Yoga 2 fix made the display drain more energy etc.

A USB controller is not anywhere near comparable. If it is some sort of controller firmware preference which would depend on how the OneLink dock actually establishes a connection to the Ethernet port etc. Most likely its just a stupid setting on some timeout that's too aggressive and needed lots of tweaking before finding the right level. Very unlikely it will have any tradeoff just like how the original blackhole issue didn't have any tradeoffs. If it requires a change that requires the chip to use more power it should only occur while actually using the dock and there's no way they would allow it if it caused battery loss etc.

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Good evening! I'm hoping for a little help on two small things that are driving me nuts today:

1) How do I resize the right-click area on the touchpad?

I've poked around the Synaptics Control Panel, but I must be overlooking something. I don't want to turn off the right-click "button", I just want to make it's zone about 50% percent smaller. As it stands now, I often click the center of the touchpad intending to left-click, but accidently slip into right-click territory. It's irksome.

2) How do I assign the function of the stylus button in different applications?

In One-Note, for example, the button triggers the lasso-select (of all things), when I'd rather have it function as undo or the eraser. In the Pen and Touch settings under the control panel, I see where you can set it to generally serve as a right-click, but I haven't been able to find anything more advanced than that. I often have no idea if I should look for a Lenovo setting, a Windows setting, an app or device setting...

Any help you can give me would brighten my day considerably.

 

So I finally received my TPY this week and was excited to play with the digitizer. Unfortunately, on the first day I was playing with it I ended up marring the screen protector.[*] The two or three "scratches" gave the appearance of hairline "rainbows" that were really annoying to me, personally, (though my wife couldn't even see them when I tried to point them out). I knew I couldn't have possibly scratched glass, so thinking there might be a screen protector, I searched and found this thread. Thanks to everyone who has posted!

I too thought that the removal process sounded a bit scary. I've always loved the matte appearance of Lenovo displays and never understood how some people raved over the glossy appearance of other laptops. And it was the no-turning-back aspect of the removal process that scared me the most.

Eventually, I decided that the scratches in the screen protector were annoying enough that I was going to have to end up buying a replacement display. At that point, it was easy to decide to try removing the screen protector since there was nothing to lose. I just completed that process and here are my thoughts:

1. The hardest part is getting started. I found the best place to start is at one of the lower corners of the screen protector. These come to a 90-degree angle that is quite easy to see once you look close enough. (At the top corners, on the other hand, the screen protector is rounded). My fingernail was not sufficient to get the corner started. I knew not to attempt getting it started with anything hard like metal. What I finally found that worked quite well was laying an expired credit card parallel to display and against the corner of the screen protector, then just pushing hard into the side of the screen protector at that corner. It took several tries of pressing the credit card fairly hard, but eventually the corner lifted up.

2. Once a corner came up it was easy to grab it and just start pulling. (No turning back!) This starts out extremely easy but starts getting a bit harder as the length of the line being removed at any time increases.

3. Fortunately, with the Yoga, it's easy to fold the display all the way back against the back of the keyboard. This gives the display a lot of support so that I wasn't really worried about flexing the display at all. I just held the display "closed" in the tablet mode and kept pulling it off like a giant band-aid.

4. Everything came off in one piece. The protector itself is surprisingly thick and sturdy.

5. There is absolutely no residue on the display at all.

6. The screen is glossier. So if you like that kind of thing, you might find your laptop quite improved. My wife was totally impressed, "Wow, that's shiny now!". I find the display hard to read with a bright window immediately behind me. But I had that problem as well even with the screen protector stll on. So I think the glare is worse now, but not as much as I feared. (I do have one cynical friend who said, "Those people in the forum only say they are happy without the screen protector because they have to be since they can't go back).

7. I haven't had a lot of time to play with the stylus yet, but I find the feel of it to be surprisingly similar to before. I was afraid that it was going to be really slippery on the glass, but there's still plenty of friction here. (I'm still waiting for a more "real" pen to come in the mail which will allow replace-able nibs).

So I'm definitely happy. With the scratches I had before, I was ready to buy a new display, but now I don't feel the need to. If I hadn't scratched the screen protector, I think I would have preferred the glare-reduction of the screen protector. But now I'm wondering if I might also benefit from additional sharpness from the lovely, tiny pixels of this display. For anyone that knows they would prefer a glossy display, I can definitely recommend just peeling that plastic off.

-Carl

[*] I don't think most people have to worry about doing this. You have to press overly hard to mar the plastic. I only did that because there was a bug in the Linux driver for the digitizer causing the pressure values to wraparound to 0 every 256 values. This gave the impression of the pen "skipping" and I kept pressing harder and harder trying to prevent the skipping, (but no amount of pressure was going to overcome the broken math in the driver at the time). Now that I've got that driver bug fixed, I don't think I would ever press this hard again.

PS. Here's a photo I took with the process half-completed. On the left, the screen protector is still attached, on the right it's removed, and in the middle the removed portion is curling up. In order to show the change in reflectivity, (which is hard to photograph) I'm showing the reflection of my desktop LCD panel. This photo was taken with the Yoga's backlight on, but displaying black. If you look at the black frame of the reflected monitor you should be able to note quite a difference between the screen protector and the bare glass. But obviously, in either case, that bright white light appears reflected.

 

So after 3 days with my TPY I've just called Lenovo and got authorization to ship it back (which was a very easy process).

On day one there was no ghosting, but on day three I could see chrome tabs when I went back to my desktop. I ran the macbook image retention test and there was ghosting for 5 minutes (the same test on day one produced zero retention). Even if I tried to run a video to clear the ghosting after minimizing the video the checker board pattern was still very very visible. I tried this at less than 50% brightness which others had suggested would reduce the retention, but it made no improvement for me. This is not normal IPS behaviour and I won't put up with it. For comparative sake I ran the same test on my Surface Pro which is also IPS and the retention lasts 5-10 seconds which is perfectly acceptable, and during those 5-10 seconds it progressively gets lighter. Not with the TPY. It's clearly visible for a long long long time. For me it was the last straw. When I first opened my brand new TPY the logo on the palm rest was bent upwards at a 90 degree angel on the bottom right corner. I have no idea how quality control missed that. I straightened it out, but there's a crease in it now. There are creaks in the palm rest and creaks when pressing the bottom right of the screen, and the travel/noise on the touchpad is irritating. I was willing to put up with that stuff and try to learn to deal with it, but the image retention pushed me over the edge. I've owned three X series tablets in the past and I was a HUGE lenovo fan, but the quality has gone way down hill. Possibly because these are much cheaper than the x series, but I would have gladly paid more for a better quality machine, and I'm thinking that I probably will when the Fujitsu T904 comes out in two weeks (according to rumours). I wish those of you suffering from issues good luck, and those of you debating the purchase may seriously want to reconsider.

 

my "G" key has come loose.. Is there any quick fix or is the only way to use up my warranty?


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Might I ask if you got yours custom made direct from Lenovo, or through another retailer? Is this with the digitizer?

 

Obviously those are just my speculations and to be honest, last time I have touched USB controllers was quite a while back - when USB2 high speed controllers have just started to show up, so you should take it with a grain of salt. That said, I have done my fair share of HW and I remember specific case where we had to bend the USB spec in all kinds of ugly ways to get the controller working properly - it had a bug in silicone and doing a recall was way, waay too expensive, so we fiddled with it for a while and got it to work fairly well - in full speed 1.1 mode it was doing fine, but in high speed 2.0 mode we ended up loosing about 30% of the throughput and most of the external HDD enclosures/drives connected to it wouldn't spin down.
So no, I wasn't thinking about battery life - when connected to the dock it is obviously non-issue

This is a specific case from several years ago that the dock issue reminded me about and I have no idea what is actually going on there - as I've mentioned it might very well be a config issue that is easily fixed without dire consequences. I don't do HW anymore, so I cannot just go to the lab, drop the dock/TPY into a test fixture and do a quick rundown. Come to think of it - I could try USB Command Verifier - perhaps it could give me some clues, but honestly - I have enough work as it is, I'll leave Lenovo worry about that

 

Through Lenovo with Digitizer.

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1) Go to Control Panel. Then go to Mouse. Then select the ThinkPad tab.

2) You need to have the latest Wacom Feel Drivers installed. Once they are installed. Go to Control Panel. Then go to Pen Tablet Properties. Then on the drop down box that says "Tablet-PC Defined" you can choose to set it to Eraser or other functions.

Hope that helps

 

I'm still sat here waiting for the TPY's I ordered to arrive. Order placed Jan 27th. ETA was originally mid-feb, still sat here waiting.

 

After some considerations I decided to go with TPY. Other options were IdeaPad Yoga 2 Pro and Dell's XPS 12.

Compared to Y2P, I find that TPY has:
- superior keyboard layout (I hate the last key column in Y2P) + ability to choose custom keyboard language on Lenovo site;
- keyboard locking mechanism and rubber thingies, which save from direct contact with the surface when in tablet/stand modes;
- digitizer – don't really need it, but it seems like fun and I might find it usable;
- ability to have 2 internal storage devices (7mm HDD/SSD + M.2);
- I really like the idea of OneLink dock, I hope all related issues will be solved in the near future;
- better warranty options.

Y2P, on the other hand:
- is a bit larger (13.3" vs 12.5") and has bigger resolution, and I think I would be able to use all those pixels;
- easier to get (or at least no shipping time seems to be shorter).

Dell XPS 12:
- I like the screen rotation mechanism;
- but the all 4 round corners are ugly for me.

I'm going to order directly from Lenovo UK, because I need the US keyboard layout (I'm currently in UK) and I am hoping to get at least 5% discount.

I will go with 2 year Onsite, Next Business Day, Accidental damage protection warranty – this way I hope that the replacement of the screen would not make much of a problem. I will still be able to return it within 7 days after I get it if I really don't like it or it has some apparent build quality issues. I don't think I will go for a replacement and if that is to happen I will go with Y2P or Dell XPS 12.

I will use the machine mostly for web browsing/movies + some light to medium development.

 

Guys,

Yesterday I received this Crystalusion Liquid Glass Screen Protector stuff which uses nano technology to form a glass layer that's 600x thinner then a human hair but extremely strong, great oleo phobic properties and is used in hospitals to make a product bacteria proof. Nothing can stick to it so everything is easily wiped off and it provides some water resistance.

Anyways I was fed up of getting smudges on the keys/touchpad and the screen mainly due to it being visible after you use the digitiser to write it leaves the writing on the screen as the pen rubs cuts through the damn smudges. Annoying under the light and as we have a matt screen costing over the gorilla glass we lose the benefits of the gorilla glasses coating.

So I applied this stuff yesterday all over my Yoga and its so far been brilliant. Much more resistant to finger smudges and when they do happen they wipe away with a simple rub from your sleeves or a tissue. No need to spend ages rubbing them away with a microfiber cloth!

Should last up to a year but even if it lasts 6 months I'm cool with that. Cost me 6 quid from amazon UK.

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Does anyone out there have the TPY with i3-4010u? I am looking at the education version of in oz which comes with i3-4010u, digitiser, 4gb ram, 128gb ssd, 1920*1080 and 3 year warranty for a decent price. My primary concern is processor and wondering in the real world how the i3-4010u handles?

I'm looking for a laptop to replace my well aged white macbook (running linux) that will last me 3+ years. Use: mainly HD video, internet, word, amatuer work on photos/minor photoshop from DSLR. Not essential but I'd also like to do some very minor gaming: i.e. play the stanley parable and revisit homeworld and kotor 2.

Will the TPY i3 hold up to the above?

 

The i3 is basically the same chip as the i5 although it doesn't have any turbo boost. So it won't speed up under usage and that could be a problem. I can't imagine it being slow for most of your tasks but it definitely won't cope well with any gaming compared to the i5. The turbo boost feature is there for more intensive tasks and gaming is one of them. Is it possible for you to get a version with an i5 without spending too much more?

 

Did you remove the matte screen protector before applying?

 

Hi guys,I'm new to the forum and your thread was the reason for registering.I'd like to ask to if the ghosting problem with the TPY has been corrected and if it affects the wacom digitizer edition as well.
Is there a production number for the revised , corrected edition (if it exists) of the TPY with the wacom digitizer that I should check/request on purchase?Essentially is this a problem with LG IPS panels affecting only this Lenovo model ( ThinkPad yoga) or it's something that can happen on the x240 and t440s series?
It will be my first ThinkPad,but the ghosting problem has made me hesitant to buy it.

 

Ordered mine nearly 3 weeks ago and still nothing. Anyone know if they've sorted out the NFC part shortages? Based in the UK. Just rang up and they said estimated shipping date is this Friday. Really hope they're not spinning me a line......

 

Thanks for sharing your experience. Did it make your screen glossier?

 

The issue has not been corrected, but Lenovo is currently looking into it. There are no guarantees that you will or will not get a machine that develops the ghosting issue - so you'll have to try your luck. For what its worth, I've had my TPY for over a month and I haven't seen any sign of ghosting yet in my day to day tasks. I use my laptop for more than 5 hours each day. My machine was made on January, 2014 and is the digitizer model.

 

Man. I can't catch a break. I cancelled my order with Lenovo because of the delays and because I found a vendor that had 20 in stock on Thursday. I just ask them why I don't have a tracking number yet (they did say it could take 1-2 days to generate one) and they're like, Oh, sorry, it sold out before we could fill your order. I even called them to confirm they had them and it still backfired. I'm starting to think maybe I'm not supposed to have one of these.

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Yes my TPY is the Full HD screen with Digitiser meaning it has the Matte Screen protector from the factory.

No the screen retained its nice matte finish but it made the screen protector installed at the factory slight smoother and its actually reduced the amount of fingerprints incredibly!

I am also another user whose laptop was built in January 2014 and experience no ghosting after 2 months of solid use everyday for multiple hours.

 

Thanks!! I didn't have the Wacom drivers installed yet, but I should have guessed. (And the mouse thing was just stupidity on my part, I looked right at that diagram and completely overlooked the checkboxes under it... it was one of those days.)

 

Hah, I must admit I honestly thought the Mouse tab was a diagram and didn't realise it was actually to control the trackpad areas till the second time I looked at it

 

I'm sorry, but I didn't get that. were you trying to confirm that you had the screen protector, or were you trying to confirm that you had REMOVED the original screen protector before applying the new Crystalusion Liquid Glass Screen Protector you got from amazon?

or did you just simply apply the new protector over the original one?

 

Hi,

I've been running my TPY for about a month, not using it frequently as my eyes are getting tired quite quick .. and I think the reason for that is "Pulse Width Modulation" used in TFY's screen, you can see that on this video It looks like it's less of an issue if you run it on 100% brightness, an obvious drawback of that is the display becomes ridiculously bright. Is there another way to get rid of the PWM issue without setting it to 100% brightness?

Cheers

 

I didn't remove the stock protector as its not really a screen protector but a matte coating which I don't want to lose.

Overhead lights on my lecture theatres would make a glossy screen annoying to use.

So I applied this liquid glass stuff on top of the matte factory protector. I am not using it for protection qualities but more for the fingerprint and antibacterial resistance.

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