Lenovo ThinkPad Yoga

Thanks for the info!
I'm debating between this and a 2 in 1 where all of the components are built into the screen and off my legs but i havent seen a reasonably priced one thats nice enough yet so this appears to be my best bet.
Also considering the samsung ativ book 9. If you've had experience with this laptop, how does it compare in terms of temperatures?

 

I've been using it in bed browsing for the last hour, and the temps haven't cracked 60 nor has the fan come on once. In this sort of use case I think the temps stay lower than almost any laptop I've used in the past.

I don't use it in my lap much so I can't comment on that, but the metal bottom won't insulate your skin from the heat of the internal components so it may exaggerate how warm the machine actual is...

 

I use photoshop nightly on my TPY and when editing full res (over 2.5k), RAW photographs. Between cloning, filters, masking and painting, I usually only use about 10% of the battery in an hour. I'm using Photoshop CC on the i7-4300, 8 gb TPY. I find that incredible battery usage..

 

@edo101

Your the only one with all these problems regarding battery life it seems, so maybe you should do a full factory restore in case you have some application draining your battery incorrectly or have a bugged install? First thing I would do was clean install it and see how it goes from there.

 

I'm guessing this means you don't have many background apps running then? Either that or there is a wierd situation where because I am on an i5 and 4Gb, the system is stressed more and then eats more battery?

 

And does flash really drain battery for anyone else? Youtube cuts my runtime from 6 to 4 hours (battery estimate thing)

 

Nothing more than a couple file browsers and occassionally some music. If you're running a bunch of apps in the bg then it's to be expected that you'll drain battery at a faster rate.

 

About how many hours do you get with normal and heavy work?

 

I have the i5 and 4gb version as well (my main notebook is a 15 inch Macbook pro with quad core i7 and 16gb of Ram so I got the cheaper model for my secondary portable). I was cleaning up some older Lightroom libraries the other night on the couch for 2 hours (this is with Photoshop CC open as I have to do some round tripping, and I only shoot Raw, mostly 21/22MP Caonon Raw files), and the battery dropped 28% start to finish (100% screen brightness as I have the screen calibrated at max brightness). From this I would estimate close to 7 hours working time on battery.

Also when I watch Youtube videos, I use 'Hyper for Youtube' instead of IE or Chrome as it seems to be more battery efficient. Typical usage for me is to watch 2 hours of Youtube while in bed, then play some kind of podcast on Youtube while I fall asleep, let the TPY finish playing the video and go to sleep itself, and wake up in the morning to check email and facebook and find well over 50% battery left. In the same scenario with the Surface pro 1 was completely dead (no battery), and Pro 2 had less than 20%.

 

Thats a bold claim...that it lasts longer than a Pro 2? Is this with the firmware update that was released shortly after its launch?

 

If you ask me the SP2 should get worse battery life than the TPY... it's built on the same platform (Haswell) and it has a smaller battery (42WHr vs 46WHr).

 

Yep. I could never get more than 6 hours of battery live with the pro 2 in real world usage no matter how much I tried. The pen calibration issues eventually drove me to stop using the pen. For Lightroom work I like the trackpad better. Maybe cause I am so used to the macbook pro. I would expect the Surface Pro 3 to be not much different battery wise compared to the TPY (this is based on the people who tested the TPY and rated it to be about 7 hours, have a;so rated the Pro 3 Just over 7 hours)..

 

Hi guys, I'm about to buy a Yoga 2 Pro refurb and I have a couple questions:

With the greater than full HD resolution, I'm wondering how well it scales down to 1080p for the purpose of watching movies or using the HDMI to watch stuff on a 1080p TV. Since the pixel ratio isn't 1:1, or even 2:1 I'm wondering if there is any blurriness.

The 256GB SSD won't be big enough for my needs. I'm wondering if anyone has upgraded theirs, if this Samsung 840 EVO would fit Samsung 840 EVO MZ-7TE500BW 2.5" MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) - Newegg.com. I'm assuming yes, but I just want to double check.

If anyone knows much about this SSD, I'm also wondering if I should wait a month or two to buy it, or if this sale really is a cheap price.

Thanks!

 

Not sure if you know that yoga 2 pro and thinkpad yoga are two different computers, and a drive that fits in one might not do so in the other.

Also the drive you linked to is not showing a price, but the samsung 840 evo drives have been pretty reliable for me.

 

Yep. This is the exact one I used to upgrade my TPY. Got mine from Amazon.com for $240.

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It's this one: Refurbished: Lenovo Yoga 2 Pro 13.3" Multimode Laptop with Intel Core i7-4500U 1.80Ghz (3.00Ghz Turbo), 8GB DDR3L RAM, 256GB SSD, WQXGA+ QHD+ 3200x1800 IPS 10 Point Multi Touch Display, 360 Degrees Hinge Win 8.1 - Newegg.com sorry, I didn't know there was a difference.

Can anyone comment on their experience with the 3200x1800 resolution downscaling to 1080p for watching movies on the device or exporting video to a TV?

 

The machine you linked to is an Ideapad Yoga pro 2 and IS NOT a Thinkpad Yoga. I don't think you will find many people to answer your question in this thread as the Thinkpad yoga cannot be configured with that particular screen.

 

The only 'heavy' work I have done on battery, while watching the clock, is gaming. Civ 5 at normal graphics, huge map size with max number of countries, will drain the battery in about 2 hours, as well as heat it up considerably, though not even close to the point of burning skin, just a mild warmth through shorts. Working in various 3D packages like Modo, Maya and Speedtree on my commute home (1 hour) I rarely drop below 70% even when dealing with 2+ million faces in realtime in Modo and Speedtree. On a side note I have rendered scenes with over 20 million faces on my TPY in reasonable times, plugged in of course, and running on max performance, but still a large accomplishment for a machine that is technically an ultra book

 

I am just about to place an order on a Thinkpad Yoga and would need some input. I am looking at the 8GB ram digitizer version.

I am choosing between the i7-4500U and the i7-4600U. What is the forum take on this? Is the 4600 worth the premium, and is there any heat, battery or fan issues that I should consider?

What is the best performing drive setup? Is there a point in buying a M2 drive and run dual drives, or am I better off with the largest possible SSD?

I tend to keep my computers for a long time so the extra cost is not really to worrying. I have a stationary workstation that is ment to take on the heavier tasks, but eventuelly the ThinkPad will do some photoshop work and some video editing.

 

I think you have kind of answered your own question in the CPU department. If you are going to keep the computer for a while, and not worried about the extra cost, then I would go with the faster CPU, especially if you are going to be doing video editing.

As for the m2 ssd, they don't tend to be as fast as 2.5 inch SSDs, so if speed is a consideration, I would just spend the extra money on a larger 2.5 inch SSD (especially if you do it yourself).

 

Hi,

If you are buying a Yoga 2 Pro (and not a Thinkpad Yoga), that drive will NOT fit. The Yoga 2 Pro uses an mSATA drive and not a 2.5" drive like the ThinkPad Yoga.

I would suggest finding a Yoga 2 Pro thread. I don't think many in here have experience with the Yoga 2 Pro as the Thinkpad Yoga is a completely different computer.

 

I had this happen as well. Every so often, when launching photoshop, the display driver would crash. This leaves a GPU sniffer in the background eating up a share of resources. Photoshop is still usable, so I ignored it. Eventually, the display driver will crash again, leaving a second GPU sniffer in the background. With 4 GPU sniffers, the fan would spin up and it would consume a significant % of CPU. If I killed these processes, the laptop is fine. I forgot what I did, but I probably updated the video adapter driver. I haven't had the issue recently, but I don't use photoshop all that often.

 

Anyone knows if the default SSD is an m2-drive or a regular 2.5" SSD drive?

 

Hi guys.
Anybody knows about any discount code lately which will work in the UK?
It would be greatly appreciated.

 

It's a regular 2.5" Sata SSD 7mm thick

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Well I went to the Microsoft store and I am impressed. The keyboard really is improved for lap use. I brought in my newly bought TPY for comparison. It was better obviously to work with the Yoga more productive but the lapability for Surface Pro 3 has really come closer to the laptop goal.

SP3 is very lightweight, the screen is better picture quality wise and the 3:2 ratio is really good.

Where the TPY wins; more ports, bigger horizontal realestate for multitasking, better keyboard and trackpad.

SP3: longer battery it looks like, I struggle to get more than 6 to 61/2 hours on battery with average use (includes youtube, lots of youtube) with around 50% screen light (i really hate this), beautiful display, pen accuracy around the edges (the wacom on my TPY is really prooperly calibrated but thre are sligh issues around the edge but I really never bothered around the edge),
no image retention (TPY has this issue, its only noticeable around gray colors and doesnt bother me)

I can return my Yoga but I am actually wondering if I should. It does soo many things very well with my main concern being battery life and 3.5 weight...although for the latter I use laptop mode more and for note taking i just put stuff on the table or my lap.
For productivity and art the Yoga is definitely better.

For tablet mode the SP3 is better and lasts a bit longer than Yoga. Right now I'm trying to decide what is more important to me, slonger use on battery and tablet mode, or better, robust functionality

 

This is where the surface fails for me. I use the tablet side on a table or my lap, never out and about so the weight is a non issue, but the lap performance and keyboard/trackpad performance is vital for me and the surface will just never compete due to it being a tablet that doubles as a laptop. Whereas the yoga is a laptop that doubles as a tablet, much more usable for me and especially more usable when your say on a strange position using the laptop mode like laying in bed or on the couch, nothing beats a proper well build thinkboard keyboard.

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Yeah I see the point but man, the Yoga battery sucks, thats my biggest gripe

 

I wanted to see if anyone else has had this problem or knows of what I can look at before I ship this computer back to Lenovo for repair.

My computer will randomly freeze. This can be anywhere from 30 seconds to a few minutes. When it freezes, it will totally freeze up. The action that triggers the freezing is the opening of a metro app. This doesn't happen all the time, but it happens enough that I am worried every time I open a metro app.

I've checked the Windows event logs after a freezing event and all I can see is that the metro app did not respond in time and had to be shut down.

I've done multiple system restores to try and fix the problem. The problem is I don't know if it's a hardware or a software problem. I just wanted to reach out here to see if there is anywhere else I can check before I contact Lenovo.

The funny thing is as long as I stay out of metro apps, I have no freezing issues.

 

To me this sounds like a software issue. The only possible hardware fault (that I can think off) that might cause this is if something is wrong with the ram. Does this only happen when you have a few programs open?

 

I have this as well! It appears after the computer have suspended the metro app/s and then goes to sleep and then wake up. If I then try to open some metro apps like IE then the computer will be frozen until it kills the app completely. The frequency of it occurring can be reduced by disabling Windows prefetch (should be disabled for ssds anyway but it wasn't on my computer).

I think it's some driver issue and/or Windows problem and not a ram issue because I don't have problems with normal Windows programs even with very high ram usage.

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Glad to see I'm not the only one! I'll try disabling prefetch and see if that helps. Just out of curiosity, what is your config? If it is a driver/software issue, it seems as though more people would have reported it; unless it's limited to a unique/rare hardware combo.

Mine is the i7-4600u, 8GB, 128 SSD. Win 8 (not pro). I agree it doesn't seem to be a real hardware/RAM issue as I don't have issues with other software. It only pops up when switching to a Metro application.

 

There has been issues with various computers with the windows 8.1 update. Mine for example if I go into sleep and wake up a few times, it the CPU goes to 50% with it trying to install some kind of windows update. Usually a reboot fixes it. I would not be surprised if what you guys are experiencing is another symptom of the issues people have been having with update 8.1.

 

I just bought a ThinkPad Yoga. It ws my understanding that it would ship with win 8.1 with a downgrade option but it seems to be the other way around. My unit has win 7 preinstalled and I am not finding any info on how to "downgrade" to 8.1. Without a optical drive and also without a visible registration I am not quite sure of how to go about this. Any pointers?

 

That's weird, but to answer your question, make a bookable USB and then purchase a copy of Windows 8.

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Sure, but I have already paid premium for a computer that should have the option of a downgrade/upgrade. There is even a win 8 pro sticker on the back. It seems strange that I have to pay for the licence once more.

 

Well then if I were you I would get on the phone to Lenovo for a support disc or USB drive so that you can restore the laptop to its original state. As they do not ship with Windows 7 and installing Windows 8 should automatically activate using the machines unique uefi key

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I guess I will have to. My unit was obviously shipped with win 7. Box fresh with security stickers and all. There is a recovery partition, But this also seems to be a win 7 installation.

 

Ahh, maybe they started offering windows 7 as an option, it wasn't an option when I bought me at the beginning of the year. Lenovo should be of some help, this device would absolutely such without windows 8!

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Hello,

I got a problem with the Two-Finger tab right click. Around 1-2 days, my Yoga' Two-Finger tab right click would reset itself, meaning the funcation was diabled, and when I open Lenovo Ultranav, under Synaptics Control Panel - Clicks - Two-Finger Tab was unchecked. I would check it/renable it, and in 1-2 days it will reset again.

I tried a few things to fix it. I update my BIOS to the lastest verison, tested with both Lenovo Ultranav 18.0.7.40 and 18.0.7.37. I also clean reinstall Windows 8.1 64bit. And all of them fail, the Two-Finger tab right click still resets.

I also have a problem with the wacom digitizer. I got a 4inch (width)x 1 inch deadzone on the top right side, starting at around the minimize button toward the leftside. The deadzone only happen when I use the laptop in tablet mode, if I lift the screen up like 2 cm, the deadzone is gone. Is it a connection issue?

Just want to check do anyone else got the same problem as me and may have solution. Thanks.

 

I have a i7-4500u, 8gb, 128 SSD, win 8.1.

I also have another problem, when my computer sleeps it drains the battery with approx 0.6% per hour. It wasn't like that in the beginning, feels like that started to happen after the last update? Does anyone else have this problem?

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is usb sleep power charging enabled? That usually drains that amount of battery

 

I don't think USB charging should drain the battery unless you're actually charging something? I have it enabled, and I don't think I'm draining battery that fast during sleep.

 

I think i'm about to pull the trigger on one of these bad boys!
I'm looking to get one with a digitizer/ pen from the outlet. Its frustrating how few get posted there and how fast they go lol.
The first time I logged into the outlet a few days ago there was a model with digitizer, i3, 4gb ram, and 500gb hdd + 16gb for $529. I should have pulled the trigger as thats exactly what I'm looking for at an insanely low price. Since then I havent seen any model with a digitizer get posted for under ~$680. *Sigh*

While i'm waiting, and refreshing my browser over and over i thought I'd ask some questions here.
How many of you have the ghosting issue? How bad is it? Is it something you can easily ignore or does it leave the screen unuasable in certain scenarios?
Do you find 4gb of ram enough? Do you regret not getting the 8gb version?
Does the I3 vs I5 vs I7 have a significant difference in operating temperatures and battery life? THe most important thing to me is having the bottom of this laptop staying ICE COLD!

 

Anybody got a Pro version of PCMark 8? i just ran it on my computer, High performance, highest brightness. WIFI on, volume off, back-light off, and I only got 2hr 54 minutes. Is this normal?

Lenovo ThinkPad Yoga review: Performance | Laptops and netbooks Reviews | TechRadar

This dude said he got 3 hours and 6 mins but he didn't run it all the way. he only ran the test for 27 mins. Is he lying or is this normal. Can someone run a test if you can get PCMark 8 pro.

I only used the baseline test not OpenCL.

 

I thought about that and disabled it, no improvement

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Have you checked how frequent your Intel Connected Standby refresh rate is set to?

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It's disabled and uninstalled. Maybe that's the problem? That it's uninstalled so it polls even though I disabled it before uninstallation?

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Could someone be kind and charge their computer to 100% then put it to sleep over the night and then open an administrator command prompt and type "powercfg -batteryreport" and then post the battery report here?

Thanks for helping

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Well install it and try, never a good idea to uninstall a device utility like that, takes up minimal space and is important to the device.

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