Lenovo W510 Owner's Thread

yeah, 6300+ is about what what my yeah and a half old m4400 gets...thought it would be much higher than that. The m6500 order that I cancelled gets around 13000 in 3dmark06....lot of money though....don't know what I'm gonna order......maybe this one but they killed it removing the FHD screen w/o Multitouch...

 

ThinkPad W510 -
Processor: Intel Quad Core Extreme Processor i7-920XM (2.0GHz 1333MHz 8ML3)
Operating system: Genuine Windows 7 Ultimate 64
Operating system language: Genuine Windows 7 Ultimate 64 US English
Display Panel: 15.6" FHD Display (95% Gamut) with LED Backlight and Multi Touch Screen
System Graphics: NVIDIA Quadro FX 880M Graphics with 1GB DDR3 memory
Color Sensor: Color Sensor
Total memory: 16 GB PC3-10600 DDR3 SDRAM 1333MHz SODIMM Memory (4 DIMM)
Keyboard: Keyboard US English
Finger Print Reader: UltraNav (TrackPoint and TouchPad) with Fingerprint Reader
Camera: Camera, 2.0 MP
Hard Drive: 128 GB Solid State Drive, Serial ATA
Optical device: Multi Recorder Optical Drive (12.7mm)
System expansion slots: Express Card Slot & 5 in 1 Card Reader
Battery: 9 cell Li-Ion Battery
Power cord: Country Pack North America with Line cord & 135W AC adapter
Bluetooth: Bluetooth w/ antenna
Integrated WiFi wireless LAN adapters: Intel Centrino Advanced-N + WiMAX 6250
Wireless WWAN accessories: Integrated Mobile Broadband (Gobi 2000 3G with GPS)
Language Pack: Language Pack US English
Accessories and options:
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how does this look like --> why does it say shipped in 18 business days. Too slow.

Also is the keyboard a back lit one?

 

any new about FHD+multi touch

 

Is there any way to lower the sensitivity of the harddrive fall sensor? I have the w510 on my lap and if I so much as change how I'm sitting too fast the harddrive parks for a few seconds.

Edit: Or if I move at all.

 

Considered removing it totally?

 

Nobody had the multi-touch FDH W510 yet. Next week at the earliest, but some of us have been deferred to March.

 

Yea i was kinda hoping that it was more but its still 1000 points more than the quadro 770m at resolution 1280x1024.
Your m4400 sounds like its res is 1280x800 when done in 3d 06 cos i remember two lots of scores on the m4400 thread where on stock clocks it achieved 5800+ so u got an over clock of about 500+ which sounds about right.
6300+ is not that bad tho but i hoped for 7000+, but if u have the lower res display model notebook you will literally achieve this in stock clocks.
so yes its performance is around what i predicted on a thread i made on the 8540w.
Just waiting to see the 1800m now. ipredicted the same perfomance as the 9700 GTs/ fx 2700m.
Just waiting to see now.

 

What 3dmark06 does the laptop get on battery mode? Just curious.

 

Also, how long do you think I'd have to wait to get one with FHD without multi-touch? How much worse is the "HD+" screen? I know it is lower resolution but is it still a good display?

 

I called Friday to my rep and he stated that the 2/12 ship date was still active. He put in a request to find where actually it is and when it will be in my hands. So on monday afternoon time frame I can give you guys a date I will be getting it hopefully.

 

I think you ordered a day before me, so maybe you made the first batch and I just missed it.

Best of luck.

I made the decision to stick with the W510 if they can make the 3/3 date. Not sure I'll accept another delay. I can and do order just-in-time manufactured servers faster than this.

I had some of the same troubles with Dell, so maybe it is an industry thing but that doesn't make it OK. I feel really bad for the non-multi FHD people. Their situation is pittiful.

 

Do I need DVD-Rs or CD-Rs for creating the rescuse & recovery and driver backup discs? How many of each?

 

Is the difference between the 1440 x 900 display and the non-multitouch 1920 x 1080 display very noticeable? How much extra cost was that FHD over the HD+? I would like to order a W510. Is it worthwhile to wait for the FHD screen, or is the 1440 x 900 a good, crisp, display?

 

It really won't be that great of resolution on that size of a screen. My 14" preferance I want 1440 x 900 let alone a 15.6" screen.

I would wait for the screens to come in, heck if the resolution doesn't fill your need category you're probably better off going with a T410 series with the 1440 display.

 

is there way to use it for mortals? im no longer that interested but still curious.

 

I used DVD-R discs. It created 3 total - one Lenovo software disc and 2 Windows Recovery discs. I highly recommend letting it do the verification step - one of my discs was bad after burning (I had picked the laptop up and turned it over while burning, hehehe).

 

I only found out it was adjustable after I made the post -- set it to Low and I can live with the few stops it does now. I was watching a movie before and if I so much as shifted my body the movie would stop for a few seconds.


Also, odd glitch in Word 2007 is making me feel like Soulja Boy. Twice I've typed "you", and it came out first as "yooou" and the second time as "youuu".

 

So how many people commenting in this thread actually have a W510? Not many from what I can tell.

 

Have you tried booting from them yet? The Lenovo recovery disk creation program says "DVD-RAM not supported for boot disk" and on another thread there's a comment to the effect that it won't boot from DVD. Not sure if it's true. Anyway, I used a CD-R for the boot disk and two DVD-Rs for the data disk, and that worked fine.

 

Yes and no. I've had my w510 in hand for a week now, but the SSD which I intend to use as the primary disk won't be arriving until later today. So I haven't installed any software or gotten much other use out of it, besides charging the battery and hooking it up to play videos. I did determine that the screen is nice and bright outdoors (FHD non-touch), and the audio works through Displayport. I'm hoping to really put it through its paces this week.

 

Which SSD did you order?

 

It's the Thinkpad 256 GB FDE solid state drive, made by Samsung.

 

lol yeah i pitty them I have 2

 

Just curious, as I've never owned a Lenovo. Is the DVD writer easily removable? I read earlier some talk about it being interchangeable with a special bay that allows addition of a second hard drive (i.e. SSD). Also, does Lenovo come out with upgrades to their optical drives? For example, in a year, when the existing drive is slow, or possibly Blu-Ray drives drop in prices, is there a good chance that Lenovo will make one that can go in the same bay as the existing one?

 

I have a question to all SSD gurus on this thread, can you guys tell me what brand of SSD drive is worthy considering regarding its reliability/speed?
from what i know,
Intel had firmware problems in the past and samsung had transfer speed problems so whos left?

I think this is a generally useful question for every one right now as its an almost all of the w510 owners future choice (unless they only do word processing and play minesweeper on their beasts) especially knowing that w510 doesn't suffer the T61p limitations in this area.

 

I think you have answered your own questins m8.

you can hav battery instead of the dvd-drive and hdd instead of all that be it normal or SSD one.

 

Would you be so nice and do some benchmarks (like ATTO Disk Benchmark or Crystal Disk Mark) with the drive, once you receive it? I'm considering buying the same drive and I don't seem to be able to find any thorough information concerning the drive. By the way, from what I've gathered, I believe the 256 GB SSD FDE drive is actually made by Toshiba.

 

bunch a' wannabees.....lol....I had to cancel my m6500 order because usb 3.0 was right around the corner to be integrated into the m6500, a month after launch! I'm looking at alternatives...I want to know if the FD+ screen is decent...I can't do full HD with my trifocals...even my precison m4400 is 1440x900 and perfect for me.

 

If you are referring to the HD+ 1600x900 screen, yea, it's bright and clear. But it's 1600x900. If you are used to 1680x1050 or higher you may not like the loss of verticle resolution.

So you have a choice. Go with the higher resolution FDH and step it down to a lower resolution or increase the DPI. Or get the HD+.

Guess it really depends on how much you use the screen versus an external monitor.

 

Me two.

 

I only have one... But I can only really type on one laptop at a time...

For all y'all who actually DO have yours, are you loving the FHD screen or what?!

 

I think it's gravitating toward the W510 now because the T510 and W510 share the same chassis, but the W510 is the higher-performing system of the two. Enthusiasts generally discuss the higher performing systems the most.

 

I replaced the HD in my W510 with an SSD as soon as it arrived, so I uninstalled the ThinkVantage Active Protection System that controls the sensor. On other Thinkpads with that feature, you could either double-click the tray icon (or right-click, can't remember) and tweak the sensitivity. I had to do this often when I used my T60p on a boat.

Keep in mind that some drives come with the sensor protection built in to the drive itself. I'm not sure how to control the sensitivity in that case.

 

Two questions:
1) I just called Lenovo and the non-multitouch FHD screen isn't likely going to be available for another month. Is that screen worth the wait over the HD+?
2)What wireless adapter do you recommend...the Intel 6300 with the 450 mbps max, or the the 6250 with WIMAX capability?

I just shipped my Envy 15 back to HP today...now ready to order a W510...as soon as I know which one.

 

I'm used to 1440x900 on my 15in precision m4400...that would do the trick...I've never like the way non native resolutions look on a screen really...so me it would have to be the FD+. thanks Plus I want to game at native, and FHD would lose some frames....look great though I'm sure.
Actually, if if I get the m6500 17 incher, FHD will be the res cause I think it fits that size better. Just my opinion.

But actaully, resolution aside (which is perfect for me), I want to know if the screen is good, bright, clear and unformly lighted...another guy on here with this screen says he's sending it back because of the way it looks....that spooked me away from w510

EDIT: the guy complaining of the crap FD+ screen is a T510 owner that's sending it back, but I assume they are the same screens.

 

Can you order a notebook from Lenovo with Adobe Acrobat? I don't see it listed under software.

 

(at the car shop) excuse me me does a pair of leather gloves come with this Ferrari no/!?! then I'm not buying it, "i need a toilet"...

 

Got my W510 last Monday.
Got my dock on the Friday before.
Got my Dell U2410 today.
Waiting on my Ultrabay SATA adapter...estimated to ship tomorrow.

 

and where is the feedback.... ?

 

It's because it is a wide gamut monitor. Contrary to the misinformation on the internets...there are not more colors in a wide gamut 8 bit monitor, the colors are spread further apart, there is a larger range and thus different. So when a web developer did the cnn site he used a hex code for red in the srgb workspace. That same hex code for red displays a different red on a wide gamut monitor.



You will find in general that wide gamut monitors display much more vibrant colors than the srgb workspace because the brightest red in the wide gamut workspace is much further from the brightest red in the srgb workspace.

There is nothing you can do about it, it's the nature of a wide gamut monitor in a world where everyone is using srgb to design (not to mention most everything you run is not a color managed app, but that's a different story).

People think they are getting some cool monitor that can display billions more colors, but it's just not how it works. There are still only 8 bits of color per channel.

So your DVDs, websites etc...will look weird. You should calibrate your monitor and sometimes it can reign it in a little if your default profile is off, but overall it will look the same.

The other interesting fact is that most (not all) laptop monitors are only 6 bit, so for every color above about 252K, the colors are dithered anyway. It would be interesting to find out if the 510 is an 8 bit display. I called Lenovo and no one would/could help me answer that.


*I want to clarify that, there are indeed more colors possible in a wide gamut, but you are limited by an 8 bit (per color channel) display. If you were working with say 10 bits per channel you could address more of those colors.*

 

It's usually not a good sign when all these are taking delivery then going silent

 

The W510 does not support the ultra-bay battery.

 

Actually, its a great sign. If people had problems they would be out on these fora looking for help. Silence means theyve moved on to enjoying their notebooks for the most part.

 

What about the chance of Lenovo coming out with faster optical drives that will fit...or a blu-ray drive?

 

Thanks for the informative post. I took the liberty of copying this info into a thread I created for this specific topic here: Crazy-bright/hot colors on W510 FHD screen.

 

thanks for info

 

I'm not happy, but I can live with it , sorry I thought it was.

 

A CES post on the Lenovo blog said this was changed to accomodate the new slice battery option. Doesn't make sense to me since the slice uses the dock connector to charge. Maybe you can't have more than two batteries in any one system. I dunno, 21 or 22 cells sure would be nice

 

Putting an SSD in there would be a total waste. The benefit of SSD is boot times and using it as your system drive with the OS, programs installed, etc.. The better option would be to put a smaller SSD as the internal drive, then a larger one in the ultrabay for media storage and stuff like that.

 

your right thats where i got the idea from. but its A Work station and not a gameboy. as for display it makes it readable in broad-daylight so "radioactive red" is welcome