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    Lenovo Y470 and Y570 Official Owners Thread

    Discussion in 'Lenovo' started by nightspearx, May 10, 2011.

  1. ZAIDPASS

    ZAIDPASS Newbie

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    What do you mean by square trade instead??

    My brother gets employee discount cause he works for IBM. I get the three year warranty for $120, and $320 for the 3 year accidental warranty.

    I plan to get the $120 one.

    Why is it not worth it?
     
  2. Nemix77

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    @ Ideapad1

    I think he wants the warranty in case in damage when carrying the laptop around stack like a sandwich in between textbooks and other things during his up to 5 years University studies.

    Nonetheless, a good suggestion if he doesn't need the warranty.

    @ ZAIDPASS

    In regards to the screen size between a 14" and 15.6", you'll won't notice the difference unless you have them side by side and even then the bigger screen may put you off because text and images on the 14" is much sharper; desktop real estate is the same on both.
     
  3. ZAIDPASS

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    I was told this by other people, but you made it convincing. I won't be able to play games on maxed out settings anyways so i7 wouldn't be ideal for me :p

    thanx!
     
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    ZAIDPASS Newbie

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    Yah, I'm going ot be carrying it 24/7 with me, thats why I'm a bit scared. I was even thinkin of paying the extra for the accidental, but then maybe thats too much. Cause tax and everything just adds up
     
  5. Ideapad1

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    lol I feel like a rep here. But if will save you a few bucks i'll go ahead and respond. The square trade warranty provides the SAME protection that lenovo care does. The only drawback is that you have to send it in and can't use the lenovo repair centers. Otherwise, its identical and (according to reviews and forum hearsay) has better customer service.

    You'll have to crunch the numbers to see if the IBM discount is cheaper than the 30% deal square trade is running now. But ST is tax free.

    Just a suggestion. Feel free to go with lenovo, but ST is the largest amazon warranty provider.
     
  6. ZAIDPASS

    ZAIDPASS Newbie

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    Oh ok, thanx

    It just my dad doesn't trust other retailers ( I know amazon is HUGE)

    But the warranty from lenovo will just help us sleep better at night, :p
     
  7. KungFusion

    KungFusion Notebook Guru

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    If you have an Amex card you should check out the FB promotion they are currently running. I got a Y470 w/ i7, 8GB of RAM, bluray, 750GB Hdd, 3 yrs warranty and an extra battery for $815 pre-tax.

    See this thread for further instructions:
    http://forum.notebookreview.com/ide...470-amex-facebook-deal-pre-tax-low-815-a.html
     
  8. KungFusion

    KungFusion Notebook Guru

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    Has anybody here swapped the WLAN card yet? It look fairly easy and I would love to drop in an 6xxx in place of the 1000 the Y470 comes w/. Does anyone more familiar w/ the cards above have a recommendation?

    There is also a 3x3 card (RT3593) on the list but I am not familiar w/ the Ralink brand. Any thoughts on it?
     
  9. TheJollyRoger

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    Mine took 1 week and a day. I placed the order on Tuesday, late afternoon and I got it the next Wednesday at 10:30 am as the UPS site said.

    "Estimated delivery time: 10:30 am..." I got it at 10:28 am... I guess I got lucky there.

    Amazing though. Dude, is coming from China and still, they can tell you at what time the UPS guy will be knocking on your door.
     
  10. Nemix77

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    So the UPS dude is Chinese and came all the way from China?...LMAO

    Did he speak Engrish?...LOL


    **All joking aside, thanks for sharing your experience which is pretty much the same experience I had with my order.**
     
  11. KungFusion

    KungFusion Notebook Guru

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    BTW, does anyone know the SATA standard of the Y470 HDD connection? The HM65 chipset has SATA III capability but I don't know if that is what is connecting the HDD. I was thinking about getting a SATA III SSD but I'm worried about the frequent failures of the SF-32000 Sandforce controllers. If the HDD connection is not SATA III I might just as well opt for an earlier generation drive instead.
     
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    KungFusion Notebook Guru

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    I know the chip-set can do both 6 Gbit/s and 3 Gbit/s. What is unclear in the technical readout is if Lenovo enabled the functionality and wired the HDD connector to a 6 Gbit/s port. Can any current owner please confirm?
     
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    Rob2Kx Notebook Geek

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    Just in case anyone is interested, my PCMark Vantage score is 12160 (y470, corei7, 8 gb ram)
     
  15. vietxquangstah

    vietxquangstah Notebook Enthusiast

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    Y570 - Why do games run better off my battery and ... - Lenovo Community

    found the thread for you. sorry if you already went through it, or read it.

    if you haven't, i hope it answers your problem.
     
  16. vietxquangstah

    vietxquangstah Notebook Enthusiast

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    that's about normal i would suppose... here is a pic of mines with no cooler

    [​IMG]

    and with a cooler

    [​IMG]

    what kind of cooler am i using that drops the temps by almost 20C under full load? this one.

    [​IMG]

    not portable though :(
     
  17. Eternith

    Eternith Notebook Enthusiast

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    I.... don't even know. Never saw anyone do that before, seems kinda risky to me. :(
     
  18. vietxquangstah

    vietxquangstah Notebook Enthusiast

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    that's fine. I'm not trying to encourage anyone to try it. i'm just simply saying it's what i use to cool my laptop while playing graphic intense games.

    i don't really see how it's "risky". i have my laptop sitting on a computer desk so its perfectly leveled. it sits on the ice try, and there is about a 0.5 to a 1 inch gap from underneath the laptop vent holes, and where the top of the ice is.

    there's no way for the water to touch it. i've been using this method for 3 days straight now and it works good. i used to max load at 80-85 while gaming, while now i have a hard time hitting over 65c. thats a 20c difference.

    no need to switch out ice trays either (i only use 2, the picture shows i used 4 but i realized 2 covers both vent holes and holds the laptop perfectly). about 30 mins into gaming the ice slowly melts into water. well the water is still very cold, so the air the laptop is taking in is still cold air coming from the cold water in the ice tray.

    about 1 hour into gaming, i would say 75% of the ice has melted but the water is still very cold. max load still stays around 60-65C on the water/ice mixture.

    just got done playing some deus ex again. took another screen shot of my temps. check it out.

    [​IMG]
     
  19. ivogff

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    Do you know, what is the key combination to enter the advanced bios. Before two days, I accidently get there, but I didn't saw which keys I pressed

    p.s Sorry for my bad english :)
     
  20. Nemix77

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    If you can somehow re-create the button combination, remember them and share it in this thread for all others users, it'll be very appreciated.
     
  21. Darksider94

    Darksider94 Notebook Enthusiast

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    I'm sorry about having to ask this, but the damn search this thread think comes up with no results no matter what I type in.

    Can someone link me to the latest stable GPU driver.

    And a little description on how people have been lessening the static issue for the headphone jack.
     
  22. Nemix77

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    Plug in your headphones > Control Panel > Realtek Audio Manager > Double click the Green circle under Analog on the right hand side > Change from Headphone to Line Out > OK
     
  23. kvasefi

    kvasefi Notebook Guru

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    Just got my Y570 and trying to get it set up. Had a couple questions...they may be answered somewhere in this owner's lounge, but I haven't been able to find them as topics in the forum or Google yet (only up to page 40 of this owner's lounge thread!! lot of reading to do on breaks at work)

    If you know where to find the answers, or have links, help would be appreciated:

    1 - I'm trying to figure out if I want to reformat and reinstall Windows due to the rapiddrive thing; I think I could really easily control which programs are where to optimize speed, but maybe the rapiddrive is good enough? Anyone have feedback on rapiddrive vs. putting OS/Applications on the SSD with data on the HD?

    2 - I know various people have strange results with the Optimus/Graphics at various points; is there a guide on the best way to set this up and make sure there's no graphics issues?

    In the meantime, I'll keep at this topic :) Page 41, here I come...
     
  24. Nemix77

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    1 - How big is the SSD drive that came with your Y570, make, model and brand if possible?

    My guess is 64GB Samsung PM800 mSATA.

    2 - There's no such guide to set Optimus so that it behaves least problematic...you may have better luck in the NVIDIA forums for such a guide.
     
  25. Darksider94

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    Thanks. That helped a lot.

    Although, i just noticed something about the static tho.... The general static noise has stopped because of this, but the high pitched one that happens is still there and it ONLY happens when the mouse is moving.
    I decided to do a little testing and noticed that that high pitched static is only there when the mouse it moving as well. But, this only happens when i'm using an external mouse and not the touchpad.

    Just an interesting note.
     
  26. vietxquangstah

    vietxquangstah Notebook Enthusiast

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    try F2 or F12. if neither works than i don't know


    what are you talking about? are you asking about the same key for the bios settings?
     
  27. kvasefi

    kvasefi Notebook Guru

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    64GB Toshiba model - THNSNB064GMCJ

    I guess the question is, RapidDrive vs. SSD+HD; weird I can't find any info on this anywhere.
     
  28. MattDrumz

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    Here is the latest stable GPU driver.
     
  29. angrykenji

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    LOL! (frozen) water cooling!
    on another gaming note, i pre-ordered Dead Island and plan to play it on my base Y570 within the next week:

    Code:
    System Requirements Minimum:
    OS: Windows XP
    Processor: Core2Duo 2.66 GHz
    Memory: 1 GB RAM
    Graphics: ATI 2600XT 512MB VRAM (GeForce 8600GT)
    DirectX®: DirectX 9.0C
    Hard Drive: 7 GB available hard drive space
    Other: keyboard, mouse
    
    
    Recommended
    OS: Windows 7
    Processor: Core2Duo 2.66 GHz
    Memory: 4 GB RAM
    Graphics: GeForce 9600 (1GB)
    DirectX®: DirectX 9.0C
    Hard Drive: 7 GB available hard drive space
    Other: keyboard, mouse
    running Nvidia 280.26 drivers. will update with results
     
  30. ab_tall

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    Is there some sort of sticky which deals with how to optimize boot times?

    My new y570 i7 7200rpm machine is giving 1 min+ startup times with just office installed which is very disappointing. Anything i can do to optimize this?(the optimizer itself didnt help)
     
  31. achieve1

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    hey guys, i just ordered the y470 with 4gb RAM, i was thinking whether I should upgrade to 6gb? Will it definitely lead to a performance boost? I'm not a heavy gamer, but on a casual basis. I do watch a lot of videos and movies. If so, what memory brand do you recommend? thanks
     
  32. kvasefi

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    Hmmm...pulled the trigger and reformatted the system, but Win7 installer can't find the SSD drive. Longer version:

    I made a recovery disc (in case), then reformatted using my own Win7 install disk. Problem is, the installer can't find the SSD drive, and the HD is non-writable for no apparent reason.

    Any thoughts?

    Wierd thing is, even though I repartitioned and reformatted the HD drive as seen by the installer, I can still reboot into Windows successfully; I guess the MBR is written to the SSD and the bios recognizes it as a valid boot system still; and the rapiddrive has all windows sys files on the SSD. Now I'm all confused; it's really hard to work on a file system that isn't actually arranged the way explorer shows it.
     
  33. Luis_GT

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    Remove the HDD, then the recovery software will detect the SSD... if you use it as it comes preinstalled... it's basically a hybrid drive... where it automatically chooses where a file is installed and appears as 1 large HDD
     
  34. kvasefi

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    Aha! Finally got it working by using the Win7 boot disk command prompt to run "diskpart" and clean the drive. Apparently the RapidDrive boot record on the SSD conflicts with Windows installer.
     
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    @ vietxquangstah

    OP said he got into the advanced options in the BIOS as far as I can tell from reading the post. Most aftermarket desktop motherboards have this option in the BIOS and I was thinking maybe the Y470/570 has has the option hidden by Lenovo and only accessible with a combination of key presses in the BIOS.

    Can you blame me for coming up with such a high hope conclusion since his English as stated in the original post is pretty bad and who wouldn't like an advanced BIOS option on their Y470/Y570.

    @ ab_tall

    Defrag the hard disk, download http://www.piriform.com/CCLEANER and clean the registry.

    @ achieve1

    If it came with one stick 4GB I see no reason not to since ram is dirt cheap ATM. If you're going to upgrade to 6GB by adding a 2GB stick why not go the whole shebang and get 4GB stick instead to make it 8GB total running in dual channel, you'll see more speeds gain by doing so especially with the Intel IGP (still assuming you laptop came with one stick 4GB single channel).

    RapidDrive basically caches all of Windows by mirroring the whole thing onto the SSD's which Windows uses to reduce access times (boot and loading application). It's sorta like Intel's SRT but less advanced because unlike Intel RapidDrive does not increase seq read/writes to the spinning hard drive and has to be installed (Lenovo RapidDrive proprietary driver) and setup before a fresh (re)-installation of Windows.

    Let us know your outcome after re-installation of Windows onto the SSD itself.
     
  36. achieve1

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    thanks nemix. btw does the y470 typically come with 1 4GB module as opposed to 2x2GB?
     
  37. Nemix77

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    Typically YES but mine came with 2x2GB.

    In the case it does come with 2x2GB , you're still better off and more future proof by upgrading to 2x4GB and selling off the factory pair.

    This is what I'm doing but ATM, I'm waiting on a specific memory to be in stock.
     
  38. ab_tall

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    That was the first thing i downloaded in addition to malaware bytes. and cdburner(ninite rules)
    will try to defrag..but even then..i expected sub 30 sec boot times..60+ sec even on a magnetic disk seems too long.
     
  39. Nemix77

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    That's a whole lot of quote up there. Sounds like maybe you got a 5400 RPM hard drive, other than defragging and registry cleaning there's not much else to do. Use CCleaner and check if there's a lot of startup programs, I can't tell which are safe disable to on your system. Google 'Windows 7 Optimize Boot' this should give you a bunch of results on how to optimize the boot time. You can always re-install Windows fresh if you're not happy with the performance of Lenovo's default Windows installation.

    PS. Not too sure how you got an expectation of sub 30 sec boot but that's just plain un-realistic, even my old desktop with 7200.12 had about 30 seconds boot time. Expect somewhere around 40 seconds once Windows is fully optimized.
     
  40. ab_tall

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    okay, mine is a 7200 RPM. I have bought a new pc after a very long time, and i expected at the top end(i7 solid ram and decent hdd) sub 30 boot times would be par..guess i was mistaken. I got it down to 48 secs. Thanks anyways.
     
  41. Luis_GT

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    I wouldn't trust the lenovo boot uptimizer time... mine says it takes like 1 minte to boot... but in reality it's more like 30 secs or less... last time, by watch... it took me 1 minute and 15 secs from pressing the restart button to having a fully loaded windows enviroment... and that include some programs that ussually ive me the force restart option when I press restart...
     
  42. vietxquangstah

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    i don't understand how a ~30 sec boot time is unrealistic?
    [​IMG]

    the longest bar you see there displays 49 secs, but ever since than i've been getting 25sec-40sec boot times.

    i did not clean install, but i did go into the control panel and uninstall just a handful of items that came installed on the computer..

    i didn't do nothing drastic. i also disabled some icons from popping up in the icon tray upon start up (by default, there are about 9 icons that pop up in your tray icon as soon as the computer boots up)
     
  43. Nemix77

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    You want a real restart boot time: Restart Time - Windows 7 Forums

    No gimmicks or false optimization like EE boot optimizer.

    My old desktop got 30 seconds with a X4 @ 3.6Ghz and 7200.12 (much faster than any 7200 RPM notebook hard drive).

    35 seconds at best even with a i7 and 7200 RPM hard drive model. The RapidDrive SSD's models maybe a bit faster, unless you upgrade to a real SSD boot time isn't going to change dramatically with boot optimizer software like Lenovo's EE.

    If you already have a SSD model its best to re-install Windows onto the SSD itself and forget about Lenovo's RapidDrive and EE Boot Optimizer altogether, now that's real performance!
     
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    Do your computer pre-installed with SSD? I got around 50s at best, sometimes in about 70s! maybe due to the 5400rpm WD drive :(
     
  45. ab_tall

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    as per the above logs, my 1st boot took 70secs when ee optimizer said 38secs??(it certainly didnt seems 70 secs, when the 38secs popped up it seemed all loaded). anyways, after some tinkering the logs have now come down to 62secs(& ee optimizer says 39 secs) . Btw, since the rapid drive model wasnt available when i ordered, would installing a SSD by myself be very difficult and very expensive? I have never opened up laptops before, desktops loads of times. Also does it affect my warranty(installing ssd's )?
     
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    refer back to posts behind, to solve this problem, I simply uninstall the realtek audio driver; after reboot, the default Windows 7 audio driver installed itself and the problem alleviate greatly. The problem now is that the driver has no balance option...
     
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    Hey, could you tell me what all services are safe to disable and programs safe to remove?( i dont wanna affect 1 key recovery and 1 key theater)
     
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    Does anyone over here has problem on the touchpad on Y470? I found the pad does not response smoothly simply because it stop works momentarily when typing takes place :( Is there any solution?

    p.s. I got my Y470 (i72630, 8GB RAM, 750GB 5400rpm HDD) a week ago and... feel the chassis sturdy but the hinge a little bit weak. monitor quality acceptable but not something brilliant. microphone works, earphone out problem already fixed. not really like the keyboard(that's better than Y570, I find the keypad disgusting on 15.6"), and the quality of camera really sucks. Satisfied with the new machine in overall.
     
  49. i82muchcurry

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    Hey guys I just ordered my Lenovo Y570, what do you think? :)

    2nd generation Intel® Core™ i5-2410M Processor ( 2.30GHz 1333MHz 3MB )
    Genuine Windows 7 Home Premium 64
    NVIDIA GeForce GT 555M 1GB
    4 GB PC3-8500 DDR3 SDRAM 1333MHz
    15.6" HD Glare with integrated camera 1366x768
    Integrated 2.0MP Camera
    Industry Standard Touchpad
    750GB 5400
    Blu-ray /DVD Combo

    I also heard that the GT 555m version on this laptop is the crippled version and performs more like a GT 550m. Is this true? If it is, am I able to overclock the GT 555m to be a on par with the other models of the GT 555m? Also, how much powerful is the GT 555m over the GT 550m?

    Thanks
     
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    turn on your windows task manager, if you found out that more than 3GB of memory is used during your typical (the heavy one though) usage, then you'd better buy one more 4GB ram(I heard that RAM is in bargain price, so buy RAM in larger volume) to form dual channel 2x4GB RAM.
     
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