Lenovo Y470 and Y570 Official Owners Thread

How would the 555m in the y570 compare with the one in the m14x?

 

@spiderjericho

Do you know what partitions are on the disk when you took it out of the box?

Are there any restore DVD's (Obviously no installation, as it is OEM pre-installed...would love to do a clean install, probably won't) that come in the box? Or will I just have to image the restore partition (and wipe it later )

Thanks.

[::AP::]

 

@alien lover 11

Are you asking which one will have better performance?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but if they are the same spec card (both 555m) (memory, freq and speed) they should be about the same because GPU is usually what holds the gaming performance back.

( i think the alienware uses gddr3, but has more memory 1.5 to 3 gb [ + $100], while the 570 uses only 1gb of next gen gddr5 in its 555m. ) gddr5 is faster, and unless you plan on using an external monitor with really high resolution I don't think the extra gddr3 memory would matter that much.

edit: Did a little searching and I think the m14x has a slightly higher 3dmark 06 11.5k vs 10.5k, but how much faith do you have in benchmarks, you can probably (hopefully) overclock either of them and get scores up near 15k. If the temps on the 570 are as decent as we hear, maybe more. Also, I think the m14x has a higher resolution screen? & that factors in as well.

I went with the 570 because it was 400 dollars cheaper, quieter, and a much less in your face design. Will see if it lives up to expectations when it arrives.

 

Hmm...looking at disk management, there are four partitions.

The One Recovery partition, a driver/software partition, main system partition and another 200 MB one (not sure what's in there).

Honestly, you can erase all of them except for the One Recovery if you want to have a get out of jail, default system image (but you can also use One Recovery to create a new one), or just create the recovery discs or create a disc image.

I can hear the small whine of the fan right now. It only really picks up when you're using Flash or gaming so far in my experience.

I kind of like the Optimus technology. With the ATI switchable graphics in the Y460, the fan would run a good portion of the time with the dedicated graphics.

The screen is similar to the Y460, crappy reflective. If you want quality, I'd probably consider another option.

Like I mentioned in my "review", this is mainly a cheap , powerful, mobile notebook with decent gaming performance.

I prefer 13" but didn't want to pay the Sony price for the S series.

Nor am I much of a gamer that I wanted to op for the Alienware 14X or the 560m, 460m, 485m or 6970 options.

 

Apparently someone said that the GT555m in the Y570 has GDDR5 but only 96 cores (same as GT550m) instead of the GT555m's in most other laptops which have 144 cores.

 

Hey, I was wondering about overclocking too. The thing is, I do not really know how to overclock. Any tips on how? The temps of the Y570 from what I hear are decent. I think about 75 degrees in full load. Cannot really prove that as Im still waiting for my Y570.

 

I found this on notebookcheck:
The GF106 core of the GTX 555M is related to the GF100 core of the GeFore GTX 480M and offers 192 shader and a 192 Bit memory bus for GDDR5. The GT 555M offers only 144 shaders and in some variants also a smaller memory bus with DDR3.

 

Thanks spiderjericho.

The 200 mb partition is created by Windows 7 as a restore/recovery option.
I call up Lenovo/Miscrosoft and find out if any are actually needed.

When I was younger, I liked the idea the manufacturers would pre-install your OS. Now I would rather do it my self!

 

so I think I am going to get the y570. From what you guys are saying it sounds like a better deal the the m14x.

 

The 555m with gddr5 has 96 cores but the speeds are faster check this out:

 

@geo lip

Check out, nvidia system tools, msi afterburner && Evga precision. I'm really hoping the bios isn't constraining, it would really help if someone posted about the OC abilities who actually has a 570 already.

 

so how is the build quality on these compared to the m14x? My dad says that it is horribly plasticy and I should go with the alienware instead.

 

Hmm...good find. So does this mean that even though the 555m in the y570 has 96 cores it is roughly equal if not better than the Alienware 555m which has 144 cores, but only GDDR3 memory?

 

Check out this video, you can see what the build quality is like.

YouTube - ‪Lenovo Y570 First Impressions (English)‬‏

 

Hey thanks! I heard about those but I really do not know what to do. And how much overclocking Im advised to do. How can a bios be constraining? Sorry for the questions. I really need to learn more.

 

Which laptop do you guys think would be better for gaming. The Lenovo y570 with a 555m (GDDR5 memory, 96 cores, shader clock is 1506mhz, memory clock is 1570 mhz), or the HP dv6t with the radeon 6770 (GDDR5, 480 cores, shader is 725mhz, memory is 1600mhz)?

Also, keep in mind I would be wanting to game at the native 1366*768 resolution.

 

With stock clocks I would go with the 6770 as it is slightly faster than the 555m.

Really close though.

 

If the bios doesn't allow overclocking there isn't much overclocking you can do (pretty obvious; im not too optimistic about lenovo though)

You can overclock until you melt your computer if you wanted, basically heat is the main factor. Overclock until the highest system is stable at while under demand and/or you are the highest you want to risk it.

 

Thanks! I hope the bios allows overclocking. When will you get your Y570? If the BIOS allows overclocking, will you try it? I did a little research and found out about the core, memory and processor clock. If you try it and find the most stable clocks without overheating, please post them here. Thanks!

 

I'm expecting it to come in a couple of weeks. And if I can overclock it it will be very conservative, ofc I will post a review and anything I notice here. .

 

I would say it is.

 

it sure does look good. What do you guys think?

 

I would presonally prefer the GT 555m with the DDR3, because it has more cores. The GDDR5 one may have higher clock speeds, but that means I could probably overclock the DDR3 one to just as high with less heat, since I'm assuming that a higher clock speed = hotter.

 

how much bloatware did the y570 come with?

 

DDR3 clock speed range is not as high as GDDR5, lower heat doesn't always mean more overclocking capabilities. And my vaio's geforce go 7600 died once from 2 years overclocking, revived it and now running at stock speed.

Note: I even redid my thermal paste and the temperature was lower (with oc) when gaming/burn, but it still gave in. Just bear in mind if you want your laptop to last long, do not do silly things.

Even desktop GPU dies at a faster rate than its CPU if you overclock them both. This is from my 8 years pc experience with more than 5 pc systems (both desktops and laptops).

 

if it wasn't for that glossy screen i might have bought the y470 already....does lenovo ever expand screen options for ideapads or is it glossy for life?

 

glossy vs matt, both of them have their own advantages

Glossy over Matt
-Crisp clear vibrant colour and brightness

Matt over Glossy
-Non-reflective screen

If you don't really mind you can also use a matt-type screen protector on a Y470.

 

@spiderjericho

Do you have any idea what the driver/software partition is?
I may just image the OneKey recovery and put it on my external.
The 200 MB Windows 7 partition is some boot thing - I don;t know how necessary it is.

My plan is a 130gb Windows 7, 70gb Ubuntu and a 300gb shared.
With the Onekey recovery, that will bring me to the limit of 4 primary partitions.

I just don't want to mess up my new laptop. I'll contact Lenovo or find out someway if the driver/software and 200mb is necessary.

 

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Seems like a possibility, is it as easy as they describe to remove/put on again? I'd probably only put it on when i'm in a really bright area.

 

No, you'd pretty much have to keep it on. It takes about 10 minutes to apply, but then it just looks like part of the screen. Basically, you're turning a glossy screen into a Matte screen.

EDIT: In other words, it's really easy to put on, but I don't believe it would work well to continuously take it off and put it back on. It probably would just get REALLY dirty and eventually stop working.

 

HP is definitely better because its got 1gb 6770 gddr5 with 192-bit

 

I am experienced issues with my Y570 and 2 of my friends 570s as well. all 3 systems are the top US models with the i7/blu-ray/64Gb SSD/Gt555m/8GB DDr3 1333.
The issues I am having are horrible gaming performance. the switch in the front on the right has been turned to where the LED is lit up white.

the FPS I am getting on all 3 systems is similar but is unacceptable for the hardware that is in these systems. I am getting no more than 25 FPs in Call of Duty Black ops and no more than 30 FPS in Battlefield bad company 2.

Graphics settings are modest with no AA no AF.
my old laptop with an i5 and an ATi 5730m got about double the fps of the 570.

I have reason to believe Optimus is cause this poor performance. If anyone has any input please feel free to post here or PM me.

 

Also try forcing the computer to run those games using the 555m chipset through optimus settings.

If you still get crap results, contact lenovo and now I'm worried ^^

 

Can I know the most capable graphics card driver in the Y570? I mean, the driver which offers the best performance. Thanks!

 

i was using the latest drivers from nvidia. are those different? and I can't force it to use the Gt555m because the games are from steam and the exe files aren't to the actual application so it doesn't give me the option to run it with the Nvidia graphics. I've heard about these problem before with optimus.

Is there a way I can disable optimus entirely and just use the Gt555m all the time.

Edit: I get the feeling that the
Gt555m in the lenovo is a stripped down version of the 555m b/c my benchmark speeds were nowhere near the numbers of Gt555m's in other laptops such as the Dell XPS 17 and the alienware M14x. my numbers were closer to GT540m speeds.

 

Do you have the graphics card turned on? The switch for optimus is in the lower right hand corner. You may be using the integrated GPU.

 

yeah i've tried it both ways with the Switch on and off and the performance is the same. I'm thinking the switch may be interfering with the nvidia drivers.

 

@Dj, what are your benchmark speeds? Others have reported speeds of about 10.5k w/ 3dmark06. This IS slightly lower than the one in the M14x which got about 12k (if I remember correctly) but nothing significant)... If you're not getting speeds around there, you might have something wrong with your set up. I know in the foreign boards they suggested the driver I linked too fixed some issue that the 266 version had? Idk, I'd try out the 270 driver I linked to.

If the preformance is exactly the same with switch on and off, im guessing it's a problem with your drivers not kicking the gt555m into action, the Y line is infamous for it's finicky drivers to get the gpu to work correctly...

How is your optimus set up?

 

Don't the regular nvidia drivers mess up optimus and you have to get the special optimus ones?

 

Just going off of the discussion in the thai forums....



If you figure it out, please post what you did & links.

 

I don't have access to any of the 570's right now as I am out of town. I will have to look into your suggestions.

my 3d mark 06 scores were just under 10,000 but those we're tested on the drivers the system shipped with. I can't remember the version. the benchmarks it performed poorly on we're in game benchmarks. as of right now none of my games are playable at native resolutions and that just should not be.

I am debating returning the system and getting an alienware M14x or the HP dv6 quad as both seem to offer better performance with the same hardware.

 

I'm thinking either lenovo is trying to rip us off, or there's some tweaking you need to do still driver wise. your GPU should score over 10,000 on the 3dmark06, and battlefield company should be playable at about 40 fps on high graphics settings. Call of Duty Black Ops should be completely smooth. Now i'm a little anxious about receiving mine... :|

 

im seriously interested with y470. but im kinda wondering how does this y470 temperature while on gaming?

 

When are you expecting yours? Hope it works out, maybe if it is the drivers Lenovo will have an update waiting for you Xo

 

Is there a return period during which we can return the laptop if we brough directly from lenovo? ..

If someone here has got a Y470 ?

Can he confirm games performance of some major games ?Also
Please tell about screen quality ....

Please post any details worth highlighting ...

 

game performance was highly disapointing.
my spec are the top end U.S. y570
i7 2630QM
Gt555m
8gb ddr3 1333mhz
750gb 5200rpm drive
64 gb lenovo rapid drive

Call of duty Black ops
(1366x768, 0xAA, 0xAF, texture quality high, v sync off, all other settings on)
15-23 FPS ~21

Battlefield bad company 2
(1366x768, 1xAA, 1xAF, HBAO off vsync off, shadows low,all other settings settings high)
30-40 FPS ~35

DiRT 2
(this was by far the best performing game perhaps because of DX11)
1366x768, 2xAA, 2xAF, ultra settings)
35-45FPS ~42

DiRT 3
(1366x768, 0xAA, 0xAF, med/high settings)
20-32FPS, ~28

COD 5 was completely unplayable but I feel it was a driver issue so I am not going to post info.

The screen was nothing to brag about, very average not amazing but not bad.

boot times we're slower than I expected averaging somewhere around 20 sec.

The speakers are the best sounding laptop speakers I have ever heard.

 

Thanks ....

If the scores of Battelefield company 2 are something to go by ...they are in line with what is expected ....

Computer Games on Laptop Graphic Cards - Notebookcheck.net Tech

 

I have to agree. For the graphics card, that seems about right for high settings. Feeling much better about purchasing this for my brother now. Will be here Tuesday (hopefully). Is it bad that I feel like I'm getting a new toy because he is?

 

@Elblufer, not bad at all . I wouldnt blame you.

My worries are a little quenched... Will you be posting a review/observations when your brother's comes?