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    Lenovo Y470 and Y570 Official Owners Thread

    Discussion in 'Lenovo' started by nightspearx, May 10, 2011.

  1. streamsurfer

    streamsurfer Newbie

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    Mods: If this needs me to open a new thread.. let me know / plz. move the post.

    Has anyone has found/noticed this and has a solution/suggestion ?

    Problem: Y470 Windows 8 Developer Preview x64 Bit Sleep resume Issue
    Whenever i step away and laptop goes to sleep, when i come back system starts but the display does not start. Even if i press Fn+F1 to go to sleep.. and then come back the display does not kick-in. Pressing Fn+F2 does nothing.
    Only alternative left with me is to press power button for 4sec and then press it again(a.k.a. Hard Reset/Reboot).

    I do not see this issue in my ASUS U30SD(win8) or friend's Y470 (win7).I have increased time to go inactive. Also Hibernate works without issues.
    I tried installing Lenovo Energy management (6.0.2.0) but no changes in display resume issue.

    My Specs:
    ASUS U30SD-X1
    CPU : i5-2410
    Ram: 8GB (2x4GB)
    OS : (MS Win 8):Windows Developer Preview Version 6.2 (Build 8102.109.amd64fre.winmain_win8m.110912-1733)
    GPU: Integrated Intel GMA HD 3000 and
    NVIDIA GeForce GT 520M with 1GB DDR3 VRAM
    Driver(s): Generic Win8 for HD3000 and NVIDIA 285.62

    IdeaPad Y470
    CPU: i7-2630QM
    RAM : 16GB (2x8GB Corsair)
    OS : (MS Win 8):Windows Developer Preview Version 6.2 (Build 8102.109.amd64fre.winmain_win8m.110912-1733)
    BIOS:47CN30WW(V2.08)
    GPU: Integrated Intel GMA HD 3000 and
    NVIDIA GeForce GT 550M with 1GB DDR3 VRAM
    Driver(s): Generic Win8 for HD3000 and NVIDIA 285.62


    My Friend's Spec :(No issues)
    IdeaPad Y470
    CPU: i7-2630QM
    RAM : 8GB (2x4GB samsung Factory installed)
    OS : MS Win 7 Ultimate (64-Bit) with SP1
    BIOS:47CN30WW(V2.08)
    GPU: Integrated Intel GMA HD 3000 and
    NVIDIA GeForce GT 550M with 1GB DDR3 VRAM
    Driver(s): Intel win7 for HD3000 and NVIDIA 285.62
     
  2. saaasa

    saaasa Newbie

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    Yeah! Finally i have found this 2.08 version! Thanks a lot! And now who could tell me will i have any problems if i have re-flashed from my factory 2.08 the different versions(2.03,2.06 and 2.06 mods(unlocked from bios-mods)) ??
    model Y570
    How to install bios better to not get any problems with launching windows?
    It seems that the launch was quickly in front of my re-flashing! sorry bad english
    And what is the bios 2.08 DOS? http://115.com/file/e7zq3num#
    Does it better than 2.08 64bit(windows)? And how to flash it by DOS?
     
  3. sammino

    sammino Notebook Consultant

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    thanks anyone else have any experiencing with settings in bf3? i seem to be stuck around 20-30 fps most of the time if i try medium settings.. i try low and its not all that much more.. if i gi higher its not that much worse lol
     
  4. Nemix77

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    Glad it worked out for you, I take no credit for BIOS links provided as I just stumbled upon them while searching for a new BIOS update via Google search.

    However, if you've found any of my posts has helped you in anyway feel free to add +1 to my rep. :)
     
  5. actiss

    actiss Notebook Enthusiast

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    Done! :D Seriously though, thanks a bunch for posting that link. It really did solve a long-standing issue I had with this laptop, and who knows how long it will take Lenovo to post it to their downloads section.
     
  6. saaasa

    saaasa Newbie

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    About 1 or 2 months at best
     
  7. Nemix77

    Nemix77 Notebook Deity

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    @ saaasa

    Last I checked BIOS 2.06 just got up on Lenovo download section at the end of November 2011 and it's has been available though similar Chinese forums since beginning of August 2011.

    If my math is correct this accounts for 3-4 months wait if Lenovo decides to update the download section again for BIOS and drivers updates.
     
  8. saaasa

    saaasa Newbie

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    Ok! Let it be your calculate! But i still have a problem with launching windows.
    Sometimes there is starts and sometimes there is not started BSOD.
    Is it a bios failure?
     
  9. Nemix77

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    I'm not sure, did you do a BIOS update recently?
     
  10. saaasa

    saaasa Newbie

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    At first my BIOS version was factory version 2.08. I flashed it to different versions - 2.03, 2.06 and 2.06 mod from bios-mods. Recently i have reflashed it to 2.08 again because it was found recently. Once my system had a problem with launhing windows when bios was 2.06. And now my bios is 2.08, launching is not quite good, it's little slower than factory bios 2.08, and not always launches
     
  11. Nemix77

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    I'm really sorry but I cannot help if you've flashed to modded BIOS versions as I've yet to try this myself. As far I know there's a specific method for upgrading from modded BIOS back to a higher version original BIOS which involves downgrading to BIOS 2.03? but again I'm unsure.
     
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    How do I install this?
     
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    sjefferson Notebook Consultant

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    hi
    i ordered y470 with 2630qm and 550m. i should be getting it sometime next week and i'm excited!
    i'm not quite sure what the "metal switch" does. it looks like it selects between nvidia and intel integrated graphics. but since it has Nvidia Optimus, doesn't it do that autmatically without user input?

    or is it the case that, the metal switch overrides whatever gpu(intel or nvidia) the optimus selected for a given application?

    if anyone could explain it, that would be great!

    i'm not entirely new to nvidia Optimus as i have w520 that comes with quadro 1000m and intel 3000. but it does not have that metal switch that selects nvidia/intel. rather, the entire process is automatic. i wonder if there are different version of Optimus technology - one that's fully automated and one that's user-selectable by the metal switch...
     
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    So I received by Y570 last night and I am fairly impressed. I immediately created factory restore DVDs, seperated the drives with RapidDrive and clean installed Windows 7 while restoring the OEM key.

    Honestly, the speed of this machine is a huge improvement over my T61p. I have all my main programs and OS on the SSD, and will be restoring all my personal files and games to the 750GB conventional HD.

    My only concern is that I think I may have gotten a defective 750GB HD... I ran SMART tools and nothing has been picked up, but I am getting a very loud click randomly from the hard drive area (LH palm rest). It has happened 4 times in the 6 hours that I've had it running. It may be occuring when the fan changes speed, (not every time of course) but I haven't been able to conclusively track it yet... anyone else have this issue???
     
  15. Dragnoak

    Dragnoak Notebook Evangelist

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    After you turn on the "metal" switch, you can manage/control the programs used by the Nvidia processor with it's control panel. I leave my switch on, and it auto selects when to transition over to the Nvidia. I'm not a gamer, so everything I do is handled by the Intel 3000 HD Graphics Card.

    DragonRider
     
  16. streamsurfer

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    I don't know if there is a sequence to the mod or non-mod bios.. i would like to have a mod-bios which unlocks menu to be a bit more control over what lenovo wants us to see.. it would have been cool if they would have made it such that F2 enters BIOS and F10 or some other key also goes into BIOS but
    shows the advanced menus that the F2 key doesn't show.

    BIOS flashing instructions of Y470 from Lenovo
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    Lenovo strongly suggests rebooting the system before applying the BIOS update.
    Please upgrade BIOS to 47CN25WW/2.03 or higher version and Touchpad driver to 15.2.16.3 or higher version together.

    Please pay attention: Turn off the wireless hardware switch before updating BIOS

    Also When the update finishes, the computer will automatically reboot for the changes to take effect.
    Enter to BIOS menu, load default setting-> save and exit.
    Please reboot the system again.

    Rep if this helps :D
     
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    Don't have that issue, although I didn't break apart RapidDrive. Although I don't know if that really would make a difference.

    I did have a hard drive once that did have a loud click every once in a while, but it never failed. So you might still be ok, although I'd be afraid of failure at every turn (I ended up pulling the hard drive and using it with an external enclosure).
     
  18. zarraza

    zarraza Notebook Consultant

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    few mins ago i installed truecript, ran benchmark, look at screen attached... this is what i get. look, so aes-ni means fast speed right? 1.7-2.4GB/s? if its not aes-ni then its around 300 MB/s or what? because this is with default bios (2.08). i bought my y470 at the end of summer.
     

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    Did someone apply other thermal paste than the stock one? if some one did that, did the fan become more quiet on load then before applying the thermal paste?
     
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    Yeah that's what I'm thinking too... I'm still not 100% sure it is the hard-drive and not the fan... I haven't heard the click for the last 24 hours after doing the following:
    - completed putting all programs on the SSD and only placing data and games on the conventional drive
    - set the drive shutoff time at 5 minutes so it isn't running that often
    - keeping Thermal Management on Silent unless I am running a game and then I place it on standard
    - running google chrome on RAMDisk to reduce the usage of both harddrives.

    On a slightly related topic, I found this websites on how to best extend the life of your SSD if you decide to have the drives not managed by RapidDrive:
    - The SSD Optimization Guide - The SSD Review

    I completed all but number 13, disabling Recycle Bin, just in case I ever got too click happy.

    I don't know if doing the above has contributed to this, but I am getting over 7.5 hours out of my battery... with screen on lowest setting and browsing the internet... I am really impressed overall!
     
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    I was going to do that, but I am waiting until my warranty expires now.
     
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    I dont know if youll see this, BUT YES.

    DO NOT GET THE I3.
    I have the i3 variant, and I didn't know this until after I bought the laptop, but apparently the i3 will throttle itself around 82', as oppose to the i5 and the i7 throttling around 95+. The big issue is that if your computer runs hot, it will throttle itself alot sooner and it is very very annoying.

    Furthermore: According the the 2.08 bios linked earlier in this thread, AES-NI is only supported for i5/i7 cpus (I might be wrong on this so take it with a grain of salt). Coupled with turbo boost, i think it is well worth the money for upgrade to at least the i5 on a computer that you are likely to be using for a few years.
     
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    Those are all absurd prices for this laptop. The Y570 should not cost more than $700 because it has a 15.6" 1366x768 screen. Generally, $800+ means you should look for a better screen. The screen in the Y570 is the worst type of 15.6" screen available because it makes things onscreen huge (lots of scrolling, limited multitasking capability) and has less-than-stellar image quality. The screen affects your usage more than any other spec because it makes a difference for everything you do.

    A better option would be an HP DV6t with the 1920x1080 display upgrade and the 1GB Radeon 6770M GPU upgrade. Better screen, better GPU, cheaper.
     
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    It shouldn't be that expensive. The last time I checked, the i7 version was $900, with blu-ray etc.

    I got mine near the release date, with the i7, and it cost $820
     
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    Hello
    Last week i bought new y470 and i have some question to you .
    1. Is there anyone who have Y470 with I5 processor but other than i5 2410 or 2430 ??
    2.There are 2 types of battery - 48 and 62W similar situation with ac adapter 90w and 120 Wat which type you have ? It should be related with processor .
     
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    I agree. I have the i3 variant and throttling is REALLY annoying. I regret getting the i3.
     
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    Does anyone have the new i7 2670 version? How hot does it run under load, like playing BF3? I have the i7 2630, and it gets to around 93 degrees when running BF3.
     
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    i have the 2670 version and it`s get hot up to 90C but i played skyrim
     
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    Hi, i´m at a crossroads and was hoping any of you could help me.

    I´m between buying a Lenovo Y570 08622MU
    http://www.amazon.com/Lenovo-08622MU...&n=541966&s=pc

    and a Pavilion dv6t, customized
    HP Pavilion dv6 and dv6t series | HP Official Store

    I would add 1GB Radeon(TM) HD 6770M GDDR5 Graphics and Intel i5 to the pavilion, making it in fact better for gaming than the lenovo.

    My only concern:
    i´ve read LOTS of customer reviews about the poor quality and duration of the pavilions, as well as the HP service. I´m really scared about this, I don´t want my laptop falling apart soon.

    How´s Lenovo in that area? Do these laptops last? Good customer care?
    What´s your experience so far with this laptop if you have it, and how good for gaming is it?
     
  30. Fletchman1313

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    I just purchased a Y570, and I love it. So far I haven't had any issues with it other than a faint white noise coming from the headphone jack. I got the i7 model with the SSD/SATA combo and 8 gigs of RAM. So far I've only been playing Skyrim on it at high settings with nearly no problem at all (had a CTD once, and occasionally there's stuttering but that's it) with temps maxing at around 88 celsius.

    Traditionally, HP laptops sucked. I personally knew 6 people who had to keep getting their HP's fixed and a few of them ultimately got their money back and they bought a different brand. However, this was about 7 years ago so things may have changed.

    I chose Lenovo because I have a Thinkpad T61 that seems to refuse to die, so I figured the Ideapad must be well built as well. Having said that, if you look on this forum and the Lenovo forums there are people who have complained about bad units and lousy customer service from Lenovo. But I think no matter what manufacturer you go with there will always be complaints and bad units, no matter if it's Dell, HP, Gateway, Toshiba, Sony, Apple, or Lenovo. I went with Lenovo because of my experience with the Thinkpad hoping that the same would apply for the Ideapad (although IBM really designed the Thinkpad... yikes).

    In any case, be sure to purchase an extended 3-4 year warranty. That way if your laptop breaks you can get it repaired or replaced.

    P.S. Oh, one more thing. The screen resolution on the Y570 kinda bugs me. I would've liked to have a higher resolution although no such option exists for the Y570.
     
  31. johan_chandy

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    ^This, go with the ideapad over the hp although ideapads are nowhere near as durable as thinkpads. Where quality is concerned surveys have been done and dell and hp have the worst quality units which means if you buy them there is a good chance a part or two is going to fail along the line. Asus used to be amazing but it seems the quality has gone down a little but not by much. Sony and apple are pretty solid. Toshibas rain supreme though over all I have mentioned in surveys. Their units are built with quality parts. Lenovo's are smack in the middle where quality is concerned.
     
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    NVIDIA GeForce GT 550M: Performance graphics card for laptops based on the old 400M series but with support for DDR3 with 900MHz.These cards should be able to handle all current games with fluent framerates but not all with high detail settings. Especially demanding games may only run in low-medium detail settings. However, you can get some cards in smaller form factor laptops with good battery life.


    As for all the website hiccups and crashes. Us essie polish peeps really do know how to crash a website, don’t we. I’m going to generalize here and say that we as a group are very passionate people and it shows with our enthusiasm and kind hearts.
    p90x workout schedule offers a challenge and an experience that I think anyone who is interested in fitness would appreciate. Remember to keep track of your progress. The results are what will keep you going on the days when you think you might puke. Don’t feel bad if you can’t keep up the first or second week.
     
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    I wouldn't try overclocking the Y470 until you replace the thermal paste. With the CPU going to 90+ and the GPU going to 85+, maybe if you applied Arctic Silver 5 it would drop the temps a bit so maybe you could overclock to GT 555m with 128bit memory levels
     
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    You could definitely try for it, just watch your temps. My GPU on my y570 only goes to 75C with the core at 825 mhz and memory at 1500.
     
  35. edit1754

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    Those quality surveys don't mean much because they survey the brands in general rather than specific models. These general scores shouldn't be significant factors in determining which laptop to buy.

    The Y570 has a worse GPU, and also an awful screen with no option to upgrade (15.6" 1366x768). Because of the screen, the Y570 is not a good option for a mid-range gaming laptop costing $800, and it makes me sick when people recommend the models costing this much. The screen makes more of a difference than any other configurable spec because it affects everything you do with the computer.

    The Y470 on the other hand, is well competitive with other 14" mid-range gaming laptops, because it's difficult to find one that does better with regards to the screen. The Y470 is a good option for a "sacrifice everything about the screen to get a little bit of extra portability" laptop, but models of the Lenovo IdeaPad Y570 that cost $800 or more are simply bad options and should not be bought unless one needs a 1366x768 screen anyway, for large text due to poor eyesight.

    Remove the Y570 from your consideration, and get the HP DV6t with the 1920x1080 display and the 1GB Radeon 6770M.


    Use one of these methods to get the DV6t:


    HP DV6t with the i5-2430M, the 1GB Radeon 6770M, and the 1920x1080 display
    for $749
    - Start with this saved configuration: HP Official Store — Buy and Customize your dv6 and dv6tse series PC direct from HP
    - Don't downgrade the GPU to the 6490M or Intel HD 3000
    - Don't upgrade the GPU to the 2GB version of the 6770M because it isn't going to provide any benefit (it's essentially a scam that the 2GB upgrade is offered)
    - Don't downgrade the screen to 1366x768. The 1366x768 screen is terrible because it makes things onscreen big and has bad image quality.
    - add ~$50 more in upgrades, the deal only works for $1149 as a total price. (Chose between a 9 cell better battery with a spare 6 cell battery or 1TB hard drive). Then at check out apply the coupon code NBS3697 to bring the price down to $749


    HP DV6t with the i7-2670QM, the 1GB Radeon 6770M, and the 1920x1080 display
    for $877
    - Start with this saved configuration: HP Official Store — Buy and Customize your dv6 and dv6tse series PC direct from HP
    - Don't downgrade the GPU to the 6490M or Intel HD 3000
    - Don't upgrade the GPU to the 2GB version of the 6770M because it isn't going to provide any benefit (it's essentially a scam that the 2GB upgrade is offered)
    - Don't downgrade the screen to 1366x768. The 1366x768 screen is terrible because it makes things onscreen big and has bad image quality.
    - At check out apply the coupon code NBH7589 to bring the price down to $877

    If the DV6t Quad Edition costs too much with the 1920x1080 display, don't get the Quad Edition with the 1366x768 display. Get the Select Edition (first method, $749) with the i5 and 1920x1080 display. For most games the processor isn't going to make a difference, but the screen makes a difference for everything you do with your computer - both games and otherwise. Paying $774 for the i7+1366x768 instead of $749 for the i5+1920x1080 is paying more for a worse computer.
     
  36. siscorskiy

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    Well you can get the y570 with an i5, and according to this chart the 6770m and 555 are actually very similar (granted, I do not know if they used the gddr3 or 5 versions). This is the version of the gt555 my y570 came installed with.

    Honestly I would say go for the lenovo. I have heard their customer service and build quality is better than dell/hp, which is one reason I purchased mine. The laptop is pretty fast, I have the i3 version and overclock my GPU a bit and can sustain 45 fps in battlefield: BC 2 on medium-low settings.

    However on the flipside:
    You can get the dv6t with a 1920x1080 screen and the i7 for a bit cheaper than the y570. If resolution is important to you, go for it.
     
  37. johan_chandy

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    They are in general but is pretty dead on where quality is concerned. I'm an architecture student and around 10 of my classmates had hp's. Different models. They all sucked in the quality department. Every one of them had problems within 1-2 years. They all regretted their buy's. We use are laptops alot for rendering etc so when it comes to gaming quality is going to matter.
     
  38. edit1754

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    Some of HP's older DV laptops were a lot worse than the current DV6. Someone with an older DV6 is sitting right next to me and the build quality appears to be much worse than the current DV6.

    If one is honestly concerned with build quality of HP then there are some other options you could go for that aren't the Y570 or the DV6t.
     
  39. johan_chandy

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    True but those two were the options to compare.

    You're right though most of them were the older dv laptops
     
  40. kasooie

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    First of all, I wouldn´t listen to anything Edit says.
    This is teh 6th time I hear him say the same answer, just look at this:
    http://forum.notebookreview.com/hp-...-6xxx-series-order-status-discussion-283.html

    He´s always trying to sell HP pavilion for some reason.


    Asides from that, assuming I buy the Lenovo with NVIDIA Geforce GT555M, i5, and 4GB DDR3 Memory, would Skyrim be able to run on Mid graphics smoothly?
    That´s enough for me.

    Also, do you guys know about any coupons for the ideapad right now?
    Cause just yesterday there was one that took 200$ out of it and I didn´t buy it and today it´s gone, and I want to pretty much kill myself.
     
  41. kasooie

    kasooie Notebook Enthusiast

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    And if Toshibas are good, what Toshiba could I buy instead of either of these? I had this one targeted
    Satellite P750-ST5GX1 Laptop

    But the 1GB GDDR3 NVIDIA® GeForce® 540M graphics is not really good.
    Isn´t there something as good as the lenovo in toshiba for this price range?
     
  42. edit1754

    edit1754 Notebook Prophet

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    Well of course I'm going to give consistent advice to people. Just because I give similar advice in different threads does not mean it is illegitimate advice.

    I recommend it often because the HP DV6t offers very good value for the money.

    That laptop has a slower GPU, and the same bad screen, for even more money. It's an even worse option than the Y570.


    To be honest, it's difficult for me to understand why you would even want a 15.6" 1366x768 screen unless your eyesight is bad and you need big text at the sacrifice of multitasking usefulness and image quality. The screen makes more of a difference than any other spec because it affects everything you do, and 1366x768 screens are the worst type of screen available in a 15.6" laptop. You should avoid them in laptops of this price range unless you need one because of poor eyesight.
     
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    Okay, I've been pretty easy going with all the opinions being stated, but we all now know that edit1754 does not like the Y570 or Y470 so, respectfully, it's time to move on. Now lets go into the reasons why I LOVE my Y570:

    - Screen: Although it is not the highest resolution screen on the market, it has even lighting, no dead pixels, and the resolution is perfect for my needs

    - Processor: The quad-core i7 processor is excellent and a real power house. Having this combined with the GTX 555M, the laptop has been able to take everything I have thrown at it in stride (AA3, FSX, etc).

    - mSATA HDD: The included SSD is amazing! I have the drives seperated so that my 64GB SSD has all of the boot files and programs, while my other internal 750GB HDD has my music, videos, game files and documents. 90% of the time the hard drive isn't even running

    - Battery: My standard 6 cell battery is giving me over 9 hours of battery life when browsing the internet and working on word documents.

    - Noise: When doing basic tasks (no gaming), the computer is completely silent! The fan practically never comes on when on battery, and the HDD shuts off after 5 minutes, so literally, no sound coming from the laptop.

    - Thermal Management: Relating to the fan never coming on, the temps on this machine are excellent. My CPU is typically around 40-45C idle (with no fan running) and peak at 83C when doing intensive CPU and GPU gaming. GPU is typically in the mid 70s under load. Flight Simulator X is just as intensive on the CPU as GPU

    - Build quality: Quite simply, superb. Everything I have come to expect from Lenovo. Yes, it is not as high quality as a thinkpad, but for the fraction of the price, it is worth it.

    - Price: at under $1000 shipping and taxes included, I couldn't go wrong with this deal.

    The reason I wrote this is to show that this is my opinion, not fact. People in this post should remember that we are simply here to share our opinions. There is no need to reply to every single post stating, in your opinion, how bad this laptop sucks.

    Just my two cents.
     
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    edit1754 Notebook Prophet

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    I never said there was anything wrong with the Y470. The Y470 is above par in its market segment. It's very difficult to find a 14" laptop with a screen higher than 1366x768 that also has a decent mid-range dedicated GPU for around $800. The max-available screen in the Y470 is on-par with the vast majority of its competition, and the performance is above that.

    The Y570 excels in many ways, but for Lenovo to drop the ball on the (max-available) screen versus the competition is a rather significant issue because the screen makes a difference for everything you do. One shouldn't just buy the Y570 (or any other 15.6" laptop with a 1366x768-resolution screen) blindly unless they KNOW they're going to get this type of screen and they understand how much of a limiting factor this type of screen is, and have properly evaluated numerous other relevant options (HP DV6t, ASUS N53, Dell XPS 15, MSI GE620, Sager NP516x, etc) as well.
     
  45. Fletchman1313

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    Kasooie,

    As a Y570 owner, I agree with jnorman5. I have the same unit as he does and my purchase was a result of about 2 months of research (turned out that building a desktop with the same specs would've been more expensive than purchasing the Y570, which was on sale for $1000 at the time). I had looked at Dell, HP, Toshiba, Sony, and a few other brands at local stores, and it always came back to Lenovo for the combination of price and performance (and reputation). While it's true that the relatively low resolution is a bummer, I came to the conclusion that 1) nearly all the 15.6" laptops in that price range had the same resolution and 2) I use an external monitor when I'm at home anyway. For me, the Y570 is nearly perfect; although it may or may not be "perfect" for you (or everyone for that matter). The screen resolution was not a show-stopper for me.

    I'd add on that the JBL speakers on the Y570 are pretty awesome, although I haven't really done a speaker/sound comparison with the more recent models (it blows away my Thinkpad T61's speakers, although the T61 isn't exactly a multimedia machine). Skyrim absolutely rocks.

    Having said that, don't rule out the HP if that coupon that edit1754 is still valid. A screen with that high of a resolution for that low of a price cannot be ignored. If I had known about that coupon I would've thought long and hard about the HP despite concerns about its quality control (as I mentioned in my earlier post). However, I would not rule out the Y570 either.

    Again, this is all opinion. Take everything you read here into consideration, but think long and hard about your options. Don't rule out anything just because someone says so; think about why they ruled it out and whether or not that applies to you. Likewise, don't buy something just because they say it's the best thing ever, because it might not be the best thing for you.
     
  46. kasooie

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    Thanks to all for your opinions.

    The main problem with the HP pavilion is that the build is quite important for me because I will buy this laptop in the US, then come back to my country, so the warranty won´t apply any longer and if the laptop has some problem i´m screwed.

    Also, concerning the Lenovo, should I go for the i5-2430M Processor (2.40GHz 1333MHz 3MB) and 4 GB PC3-10600 DDR3 SDRAM 1333MHz ($729.00 right now) version or take the i7-2670QM Processor (2.2GHz 1333MHz 6MB) and 8 GB PC3-10600 DDR3 SDRAM 1333MHz one ($799.00)?

    Is there really much of a difference between those two? How does this difference reflect on gaming? Is the money worth it? Cause I heard there´s not much difference between the i5 and i7, and really all i´m gonna do is play games like Skyrim and maybe edit some light videos, not very hardcore stuff.
     
  47. jnorman5

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    Hi Kasooie,

    For only $70 more, I would definitely take the upgrade. With the quad-core i7processor, you have a lot more future proofing vs the i5 dual core. Also, having the 8GB of RAM will allow you to tweak the system to your liking a little more IE: No pagefile, RAMDisk, etc.

    If you are playing games that are processor intensive, the quad core will be a definite asset. In summation, both will be good, but IMHO, the i7 would be better.

    Hope this helps!
     
  48. Ellatan

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    I currently use GTX 260M with other specs in my signature. This card is really close to GT 555M in performance. I can run skyrim on all max settings with 4 AA, 8 AAF and medium shadows. I also run a lot of higher texture mods and a shader injector, with all of that I get 30 fps on average, which is playable for me. Medium settings - I'm sure it would be a breeze for GT 555M.
     
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    Aren´t there any downsides to the i7/ 8gb? Doesn´t the laptop tend to heat up more or something?
     
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    Thanks, that´s great to know!
    Of course playing Skyrim in max wouldn´t hurt, but it´s just that according to notebook check Skyrim runs on 25 fps in high quality with the GT 555M:
    NVIDIA GeForce GT 555M - Notebookcheck.net Tech
     
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