New ThinkPad Information and Pictures!

why don't you get the R series if you don't want a dedicated graphics card?

 

wow, perfect stats for x200 except that it has no led screen. finally got rid of useless ports from the xseries, like phone jack, vga, ethernet and has an express card so i can use wireless broadband. 3 usb ports is a bit excessive, wish they included a micro dvi cable like macbook air in replacement of one so vga and dvi is still possible.

 

im patiently waiting for x200s, in september according to the references, they better have led screen in that one

 

here is more information from engadget. 21 slides in all.

...up to 5GB DDR3 fro X200, crazytalk I say.

 

What, I thought the T400 in WXGA+ was LED backlit!

 

Because there are other advantages to the T series that I would like, mainly lighter weight, LED screens and sleeker looks. The R is a great laptop and nice option, but I am wondering if the T will include integrated graphics à la the current T's.

My bad, I looked at the spec sheets again, and the WXGA+ is indeed LED, the WXGA is not. Hurray.

 

I just don't understand why the SL series is the only series with HDMI, Clearly there are more Plasmas and LCD with HDMI than display port. If you want to push Display Port at least have HDMI also. I want the stability of the R/T series, but may have to settle for an SL just because of HDMI...

*Sighs*

And why haven't they figured out how to center the LCD? Good Grief Lenovo..

 

I am interested with T500. Why it only uses HD3650? HD3650 seems to be not better than 8600GT...
And anyone knows about the switchable graphics with T400/T500? How it works? Need reboot or not?

 

Because the T series is not the workstation thinkpads...that's the W series. It's actually a considerable upgrade from the NVS140m in the T61.

 

http://translate.google.be/translat...prev=/search?q=ASUS+F3SL+&start=10&hl=fr&sa=N

http://magai.ru/892-strannosti-ati-mobility-radeon-hd-3470.html

Mobility Radeon HD 3470 is a performance step backward. It's slower than Quadro NVS 140m.

 

The link to the Thinkpads.com forum post someone gave has details on all the series, I'd say over 100 slides in all.

 

I am talking about the mobility 3650, not the 3470.

 

Why would they replace the NVS140M with a slower GPU (the 3470)?

 

no longer working, seems they deleted the thread due legal issues

 

The HD 3650 outclasses the 8600M GT. Supposedly, you won't have to reboot. The switchable graphics thing has been used by Sony in their SZ series for a little while now.

Can someone point out where the T series says it will have HD 3470? I see that the SL series has it, but it will be the "lower" line or the two. Is it just me or does Engadget's slides repeat themselves?

 

Oh my. Is the restocking fee worth it? Sorry if this has been asked, but when are these coming out? I would really love to have an LED backlit screen, but I *just*just*just* bought a new t61p.

*cry*

 

The T400 will only have a HD 3470 while the T500 will have the HD 3650.

 

it really depends on what features you need.
personally, i'd wait. 2009, nehalem/calpella will arrive, and i believe that is a far larger technical advancement (montevina-->calpella) than is the current one (santarosa-->montevina).

plus, the T61p has its bugs worked out already, such as motherboards that gave BSODs like no other.

 

And you will probably pay a lot more for these new systems then you just did for your T61p.

 

There exists a review to compare HD3650 and 8600GT on asus F8 series. Two laptops have similar specs but different graphics (both with GDDR2, not GDDR3). From the reivew, 8600GT outperforms HD3650 by 10%-20%.
I know Sony sz has the switchable graphics, and sony sz indeed needs a reboot to really change the graphics. It is due to the intel platfrom does not support hot-switching graphics...
I haven't heard about whether montevina supports hot-switching, and very interesting in how lenovo realizes switchable graphics. Is it the same with Sony sz's?

 

Now I start to worry about the price of T500...
If it comes with too high price, I will have to turn to Dell, benq or other affordable laptops with affordable prices...

 

Have you seen it? http://www.rabais-etudiant.ch/newsdesk_info.php/newsdesk_id/28/language/en
Laconic, yet informative

PS
"Finally Lenovo will launch by the end of the Year an new Entry Line (type EEE PC) with 8.9" and 10.2" Models based on Linux and the Intel ATOM Processor.." - will it be X100?

 

Does anyone know if any of these toys will have e-sata?

 

That's OK, don't worry about it. I just bought my T61 4 months ago, and I love it ! Plus, I think those of us that buy now, will save quite a bit of money. When the new T series comes out, they will most likely start out high (Upwards of $2,000). I do not regret getting mine now in the least.

 

The same old, dull look (you don't need to sacrifice style to get durability!)...The same weak performance (HD3470-no thanks!)...The same grainy/low-quality screens (it happens with all Lenovo's). I was looking forward to something better!
The HP Elite is by far better. It has a 14.1 inch screen (with better quality), durability(Toughened to Military-Spec 810F!) , and style (we're talking about an aluminum roll cage).
Check this out:
Processor: Intel Mobil 8000 series or 9000 series
RAM: up to 8 GB DDR2
Display: 14“ display with a resolution of 1.280 x 800 or 1.440 x 900 pixels
HDD: up to 250 GB
Multi function bay: for DVD-RW, DVD-ROM, HDD, BluRay
Graphics: integrated graphic card or Radeon HD 3650
Wireless: WLAN 802.11 a/b/g/draft-n; optional HSDPA
TPM chip, finger print reader
VGA, 3 x USB 2.0, Gigabit LAN, Firewire, 56k-modem
Express card slot
Battery Life: 8 hours
Additionally, the notebook is protected against splash water and bears up against minus 29 degrees Celsius and plus 60 degrees Celsius.
You can also check out this link:
http://gizmodo.com/395586/hp-elitebook-6930p-one-badass-business-laptop

Can Lenovo's new notebooks actually beat the 14.1 inch HP ELITE 6930p?
By the way, someone mentioned that it will have a starting cost of around $1200!

 

Buyer's remorse. But IMO this is the best time to buy a Thinkpad (if you need one and don't need newest hardware) because you get the best deal on a mature platform that is about to be phased out (just like buying a T60 around April/May last year).

Not sure how you already know the screens are grainy and low-quality. I doubt LED backlit screens won't be an improvement over current Thinkpad screens.

The look of a Thinkpad can be beautiful to some and absolutely ugly to others and definitely a over-debated issue. It all come down to your own preference in the end.

 

Lenovo has always had a reputation of low-quality screens-LED or not.
Also, the look of the Thinkpad hasn't changed at all. It is getting rather boring...
The HP Elite seems a lot more promising than these new Lenovo models. Just take a look at the specs. Okay, here comes the part when people start talking about durability over looks...Face it-the HP Elite has looks and durability.
First: the notebook is protected against splash water and bears up against minus 29 degrees Celsius and plus 60 degrees Celsius.
Second: it is toughened to Military-Spec 810F
Third: It has a tough aluminum roll cage. (These is also a glossy-imprint over the aluminum. There was a picture with someone using steel wool-NO DAMAGE!) Thinkpads are mostly made out of hardened plastic, not metal...

 

This is ludicrous. Why is it going to be $2000? You can get a T61 right now for like $800. There is nothing coming out in the new ones that will make it over double the price unless you put in the SSD which is a rip off. Every other company is updating their laptops with the new Montevina stuff and their prices will stay about the same. Technology gets cheaper or you get more bang for your buck not the other way around.

 

but how much was a t61/t61p when they first came out?

(i actually don't know. i am asking the question to ask, not to prove a point)

 

I actually think that HP is pretty ugly but to each his own. It does have some nice looking features but I wonder if the keyboard will feel as nice as Lenovo's?

 

I wonder if the people coming up with the names of the series ever thought to rename their X series as U (as in ultraportable series), cuz then they'd have the SL, series U series, and the T series lol!

 

First, Lenovo or Dell or HP share the same LCD screen supplies, either from LG or Samsung or some other manufacturers, what you get on Thinkpad is what you can get on HP or Dell.

That's YOUR perspective, there are thousands of buyers who don't like the glossy look. Hence, your comment is not a fact and rather pointless in this case.

the new HP elite doesn't have much change of look over the old ones (Yes I have seen it), face it, there are people who love the black color!

FYI, Thinkpad can take the same kind of "treatment", long before HP introduced the new ones. Do you know that NASA chooses Thinkpad as the only one notebook for their flights ? Guess you don't.

Sounds cool . Do you know what that means ?

You have no idea of what you're talking about! Roll-cage is Thinkpad's design, which is a magnesium alloy frame support the chassis and the lid. It's not HP roll-cage or Dell roll-cage! Guess you don't even know the structure of the HP ones. Moreover, the plastic cover outside is Carbon fiber reinforced.
I think I can call you a troll now. This is thinkpad place, if you don't like it, don't post. Your opinions don't mean anything here anyway.


For the rest of you who missed it. Here it is
http://www.batteries-wiki.org/?page_id=55

 

I believe they were around 1100-1500 depending on the config.

 

perv...
but i think lenovo already uses U for their ultraportable ideapad line - the ideapd u110

 

Couldn't agree more with Han Bao Quan. This is the Thinkpad forum and no one appreciates fanboy bashings here.

 

So will there be a 14" W series then?

What do people who liked the t61p 14" buy?? Do they downgrade to the t400?

since when was downgrading the specs a good business strategy?

 

Why have all those series?

I mean if you had ONLY the T-series with different options for graphic cards, and sizes from 12" to 17" EVERYBODY would have what they need....

THose roumored specsand series are just to much and to wrong...

 

The Tp series will be replaced by the W series.

 

Is there going to be a 17 inch W series Thinkpad?

 

yes, there will be.

 

Does anyone know if any of these will have an e-sata port?

 

http://lenovoblogs.com/insidethebox/?p=93

I especially like this section:

I like this even more ( re: a T61 & R61):

Mentioning MIL Spec without detailed info on what test( s) were passed is pure marketing.

From your Gizmodo link:

So it meets but did it pass any test(s)? Plus were is that aluminium roll-cage you talk about?

(8b) Mentioning MIL Spec testing was intended to make laptop look sexy in brochure.

 

1. As a matter of fact, I do know what Military-Spec 810F is.
2.I could care less what kind of notebook NASA chooses. You have any sources?
3. I doubt the Thinkpad can take the same kind of "treatment"
4. You don't know what you're talking about! Read the news/forums more! It's like you've come from some distant land...:laugh:
5. "This is thinkpad place, if you don't like it, don't post. Your opinions don't mean anything here anyway." This is a free forum. I have every right to post here. My opinions may not mean anything to you, but I could care less. I am fed up with you always criticizing other people for their comments and acting like you are a top executive of this website, and you know everything...
6. I am just letting people know about a new notebook that is comparable to the build-quality of a Thinkpad, or even better... If you don't like what I'm posting, that's just too bad. You don't have to quote my comments or reply.

 

Read the post above you! And that's not what I was asking you. Everybody can just google it.

I can care less what the HP elite can do, because you brought up it first.
http://spaceflight.nasa.gov/history/shuttle-mir/science/iss/sc-iss-tpcs.htm
http://www.spaceref.com/news/viewpr.html?pid=2633

AFAIK, it can withstand being driven over by a motorcycle
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abQVI_0Wuqc
I doubt the HP can do whatever you said! Since you own neither, your opinion is nothing but false assumption.

If you just read the news then come here and post, well go and read more :laugh:, notice that there are people who don't like the new look of the new HP ones. :laugh: You have no clue about the new HP notebooks beside what HP advertises.

I can care less about the fact that you came here and post crap about the Thinkpad that you don't even know what you're talking about. Since nobody here in the Lenovo forum takes you seriously, you better just don't post, or waste your time posting crap, I don't care
I don't know everything, but I'm quite sure I know lots of things about Thinkpad that you don't.

Your way of commenting on Thinkpad is not how you're letting people know, it's called TROLLING, which I have seen many and sick of it. Comparable build quality ? There are other notebooks beside Thinkpad that just as well built as the HPs, do you know? I got my hands on many of HP notebooks so I know how tough it is. People here know it for a long time, you just haven't been here long enough ! The new HP notebooks are not even out yet and you're assuming it will be better ? I could say the same thing about the new Thinkpads, but I rather not since I don't like to speak out of assumption. You know what too bad ? That nobody here likes what you're posting. But you just post anyway.

 

HP is misleading with their MIL-STD-801F claims to say the least.
It may be a nice lappy, I don’t know, but they may as well have tested it to MIL-M-801H
because I find this kind of marketing annoying.

 

It's the same thing as when Apple was talking about their Titanium Powerbook G4. "Hey guys this thing has some TITANIUM and POLYCARBONATE PLASTIC! The same stuff that the military uses in FIGHTER JETS! WHOOOOOO"

 

i agree, being in the military for 11 years, i know for sure that the Mil-spec is no big deal. It like when any electronic part is UL, or a device is FCC compliant. Thats really all it is, a compliancy. I know it says specification but I can tell you for sure some products that meet Mil-Spec are not worth a d@mn. A lot of times they can slap a milspec on for fire resistance, shock or other non essential specs. In the desert, all laptops failed. If you want to see a laptop that truly meets milspec and handles itself in the desert, try miltope.

 

The HP buisness line, as well as other brands, are good. But after trying acer, HP, sony, and asus at the stores and other peoples laptops. The thinkpad keyboard is much better. Plus those other brands I noticed the hinges have more play and aren't as strong. They look better than the standard black box thinkpad look in most peoples opinon, but you have to give up something to have those looks from what I have seen.

 

I agree. But not all notebooks are inferior to the Thinkpad. It also seems that the build-quality of the Thinkpad has somewhat decreased in comparison to older models like the T42. Lenovo is using much cheaper plastic, especially in the palm-rest area.

 

The plastic of the currently thinkpad is carbon fiber reinforced, on the T42 is the hard composite plastic. It's not the kind of cheap plastic on the notebooks. The old ones don't have the roll-cage either.
Of course not all notebooks are inferior to Thinkpad. The HP 8510w with magnesium alloy inner shield is just as durable.