New specs on X201 (yes, X201!)

Enjoy:

Lenovo ThinkPad X201-332359M Specifications

Processor
Intel Core i5-540M processor (2.53GHz)

Memory
4GB (2GBx2) PC3-8500 DDR3-1066 SODIMM

Hard Drive
320GB / 7200rpm

Display
12.1" WXGA LED BL

Graphics
Intel Integrated Graphics 5700MHD

Audio
Integrated

Camera
Integrated 2.0MP

Communication
Bluetooth, Intel Centrino Advanced-N 6200, Gobi 2000 Embedded Wireless WAN

Card Reader
5 in 1 Media Card Reader

Battery
6 Cell battery

OS
Windows 7 Professional 32bit

Warranty
3 Years (RTB)

Extra
Fingerprint reader

Lenovo ThinkPad X201-3323K2M Specifications

Processor
Intel Core i3-330M processor (2.13GHz)

Memory
2GB (2GBx1) PC3-8500 DDR3-1066 SODIMM

Hard Drive
250GB / 5400rpm

Display
12.1" WXGA LED BL

Graphics
Intel Integrated Graphics 5700MHD

Audio
Integrated

Camera
Integrated 2.0MP

Communication
Bluetooth, Intel WiFi Link 1000

Card Reader
5 in 1 Media Card Reader

Battery
6 Cell battery

OS
Windows XP Professional preload with Windows 7 Professional Recovery Media 32bit

Warranty
3 Years (RTB)

Extra
Fingerprint reader

LED backlit LCD seems to be standard now. Very nice.

 

I also posted specs for another x201 (i5 version) and x201t in this other thread:

http://forum.notebookreview.com/showpost.php?p=5830420&postcount=48

Cheers!

 

Didn't see your post. Sorry about that
Hopefully people can use this thread to discuss about the new X201 (non-tablet) though!

 

Any news on a release date?

 

Suppose to be a rumored launch at the beginning of March.

 

Hmmm....no new features to write home about, but I'm hoping that it's a bit thinner and lighter. I've given up any hope that the screen will be anything but poor. Maybe it'll have dual speakers.

 

Does this mean no LCD swapping?

 

so everything is the same apart from the cpu?

 

New graphics, new Wifi card, new CPU, maybe a touchpad.

 

ETA 2/23 from shopblt.com:

http://www.shopblt.com/cgi-bin/shop...1000100U0115_BCT0034P.shtml&order_id=!ORDERID!

 

Depends. Maybe yes, maybe no. Somebody has to buy one and open it up for confirmation.

 

Please do not quote a long post in its entirety and then give a one sentence reply.

Back to the topic. Online stores typically lists only specification that can vary from model to model. If, say, all X201 laptops come with built-in DisplayPort, an online store may not list this feature because it is standard for the model.

The only way to know all the new features is to wait for the official release.

 

Webcam is now 2.0MP as well (presumably the same as the T400s [better in low light]). I would also expect the new keyboard design (enlarged escape and delete keys).

 

Finger crossed for DisplayPort

 

USB 3 would be nice along with better speakers and a better screen.

 

Would the Icore CPUs run hotter at all ? As in will the model be as silent as the X200/X200s series? I am hoping they will have touchpad + trackpoint and also proper speakers (yes 2 of them) and the same VOIP microphone upgrade as the T400s. Am also hoping all is lighter, well for the X201. I don't think you can make a X200s lighter. Will the screens be the same as the current LED 1280 x 800 X200/X200s ?

 

The Core i5 does run hotter than current generation of Core 2 Duo, so unless Lenovo makes some huge improvement to the cooling mechanism of X201, expect them the fan to run more often. You may consider the Core i3 option if you want the laptop to run cooler.

Chance of USB 3.0 is slim. They are not on Thinkpad T410 series. The reason is that current Intel chipsets do not support them. Extra controller chip would be needed to implement USB 3.0, and this is unlikely to happen for X series.

I have been wondering why Lenovo changed the names of these things to X201/s instead of X210. Leaked photos indicate why so far: none of the new features (bigger ESC DEL key, eSata/USB combo port, lighted mute button etc.) added to the -10 series are found on them. What the leaked photos show us so far are just X200/s/t with Core i series CPUs and touchpad.

I certainly hope that I am wrong, but if the name choice indicate anything, it suggests a minor upgrade.

 

Yes, I agree. x200->X201 vs X200-X210. I presume x201 is just a refresh, where as x210 is a features update.

 

I expect X201 to be a refresh with some feature updates. We already know about the touchpad, and we know that the new high-resolution webcam on T410/T510 also made its way into X201. I expect X201 to adopt the other changes (new keyboard, dual mic, mic mute key, etc.) as well.

I take the X201 model number as meaning that there is no major change to the X200 chassis; there could still be some feature updates. There is a prior example: X24 to X30 is a chassis update (features remain mostly the same), and X30 to X31 is a refresh and feature update (only minor chassis change).

 

True, the T400-T410 has a new battery design and different chassis.

The "prototype" x series that I have seen with touchpads didn't have the new keyboard design. I wonder if the curved mouse affects adding the touchpad. The touchpad would already be quite small.

 

If it is lighter and has a displayport, I would gladly upgrade .

 

For me the big issue is heat & noise. So if it's going to be hotter and noisier ...well normally count me out but that touchpad promise makes me hesitate. Then again the X200/X200s have been tried and tested and proven again and again to be a great laptop. I just don't understand why newer technology would be hotter and make more noise ... makes no sense ! Any chance we would get a refresh and touchpad and have the C2D CPU in a cheaper version ? As in an option to keep let's say a SL9600 in the new chassis?

 

i5 doesn't consume more power than Core 2 Duo. It's almost the same (but better performance/power ratio)

 

Looks like a very solid refresh.

What more can you ask for?

 

Im not sure its hotter than the X200.

What was the TPW of the 4500M HD?

The X200 CPUs were 25W TPW (PXXXX series CPU) and the X200s has 17W TPW.

The new X201 has 35W TPW(with GFX) the X201s has 25W TPW

Anyone know?

 

I upgraded from X60 -> X61 -> X200, but from the looks of things I'll be skipping this update. I'm not bothered at all though...the X200 has not had any deficiencies that make me itch to update (aside from the horrible LCD, but I upgraded that). DisplayPort would be nice, but I don't think it will happen. They wouldn't sell as many docks if they include DP on the notebook itself.

For anyone itching for a graphics upgrade on their X-series, be sure to try out DXVA on Intel G45 graphics. My experience is that my MKV videos play back flawlessly at <5% CPU now.

 

Can someone explain to me, apart from the extra 4 hyperthreads (from the 2 extra cores), why would i want a core i5 compared with the 2.66GHz P8800?

 

Turbo Boost (to 3.066GHz) and improved (integrated) graphics performance.

 

Can you elaborate on this turbo boost please?

Thanks

 

http://www.thinkpads.com/2009/10/13/how-it-works-intels-core-i7-turbo-boost/

The operating frequency of a modern CPU is typically bound by the requirement to restrict power draw and heat output. However, if core #2 of your 2.53GHz dual core CPU is idle, then Turbo Boost allows you to allocate the heat budget of core #2 to core #1 and make core #1 run at 3.066GHz.

For mobile CPUs, Turbo Boost is available only on i5 and i7 models. C2D and i3 do not support Turbo Boost.

 

10-12W (for 4500MHD + everything else that has been moved to i5 CPU core) according to tests made by Anandtech. In other words i5-based system has only slightly less power consumption compared to C2D.

 

I'm guessing therell be a considerable difference between the performance of the T410 i7 and the X201 i5?

Think i may go for the cheapier and heavier T410

 

x61x200

Actually, you probably won't notice big difference between 2.13Ghz Core i7-640LM and 2.66Ghz Core i7-620M. Difference between 2.4Ghz i5 and 2.66Ghz i7 would be almost unnoticable...

 

The new architecture is also "faster" per clock. So at the same speed (frequency), the Core i5 would do more work than the Core2.

 

Turbo Boost in layman terms: Not every application uses both CPU cores, in fact a lot of applications open only a single thread and use only 1 CPU core. Turbo Boost roughly works in this situation by shutting down 1 core, thus save some power and heat, and overclock the remaining core (using the power and heat saved by shutting the other core) to run single-threaded application faster.

Core i- series are built in a 32nm process, compared to 45nm those Core 2 Duo on X200. Thus, in principle they should use less power and run cooler. But they are also a more complicated architecture, with memory controller and graphic chip integrated onto the CPU, resulting a higher TDW comapred to 45nm Core 2 Duo with the same clock.

In Anandtech's Core i5 review, they found that Core i5 offers huge performance gain over Core 2 Duo of the same clock speed, especially in multi-threaded applications (because each of the two core on Core i5 supports hyper-threading, thus the CPU can handle 4 threads at the same time)
http://www.anandtech.com/mobile/showdoc.aspx?i=3705&p=3

but offer virtually no gain (and no loss either) in battery life
http://www.anandtech.com/mobile/showdoc.aspx?i=3705&p=4

It's unfortunately that they didn't test the CPU power draw and temperature. I've read people saying that their new T410 CPU fan run more often than their old T400. They may not be directly comparable, since the configuration might be very different. But I would't be surprised that a X201 with Core i5 run noisier (CPU fan run faster more often) than a simiarly configured X200 with Core 2 Duo CPU.

 

A la Engadget and Techbuy.au the X201 should have an i7 620 (maybe 640?) processor.

http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/05/lenovo-thinkpad-x201t-convertible-tablet-hits-the-fcc-australia/

http://www.techbuy.com.au/p/135226/NOTEBOOKS_12.1/Lenovo/X201T

 

I dont think the speakers are going to get better due to its size but I hope that the design could be more X60/X61ish rather than X200 with some wasted space at the top and sides of the LCD.

 

How would they do that with the same sized everything? You would have to make a smaller chassis and a smaller keyboard.

 

The new HMM is posed, included in it is X201 (and the rest of the family)

http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site.wss/document.do?sitestyle=lenovo&lndocid=MIGR-70149

Page 169, I see a touch pad.

No big del or esc key, no combined mic/headphone jack, no hdmi or display port, no esata port, no mute button for mic etc.

Basically the only change is CPU (and of course chipsets) and added touch pad.

That why it is named X201, instead of X210.

EDITED: Oh there is now stereo speakers (for X201 and X201i, X201s still has mono speaker)! Just as everyone wished!

 

Sounds like someone had read my summary of the X201 HMM!

http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=459743

 

hahhaa, that made me laugh (cause its true)

 

wait, i need hdmi/displayport

 

if they can bring the LM processor, plus a webcam to the x200s, with an option for no touch pad, that's golden. I agree an HDMI/Displayport would be nice, but VGA will do.

 

Anyone know the chipset the X201 uses? Will it be pci-e 2.0 capable for it's mPCIe and expresscard slots?

 

nice... wished it had esata and display port on the actual laptop.

 

Wow, this is disappointing. My X60S hits the four-year mark in May, and I'd been intending to upgrade to the X201s then. But there's no way at all I'm buying a notebook in 2010 that only has a VGA port on-board; I need DisplayPort, or better yet, HDMI.

I guess I'll have to start researching machines from other manufacturers. No idea where to start.

 

It's really absurd that a brand new 2010 model of any notebook should have VGA at the exclusion of HDMI/DisplayPort.

 

It has been said many times, that a VGA port is still a must have feature on a business notebook. You will find VGA connectors on projectors everywhere, but rare have other inputs.

This is not to say an HDMI/DisplayPort is not missed. I was also waiting for the specs of the X201, and as it turned out it is only a processor upgrade I am not really considering it any longer - I would also have wanted a better display port amongst others.

 

And Lenovo may be right on this, that a VGA port is a must-have feature on some business notebooks. But what they seem to be forgetting is that it's now 2010, and at least in my business, a digital output port is also a must-have feature.

 

the X200 ultrabase has displayport.   it's not like the feature is completely missing.