Pictures of X200AFFS-X200 equipped with Flexview screen

Thanks a lot Erik.
Handai i appreciate that you are willing to help other memebers with guidance.
I am going to buy a x201 now and will buy the other parts as well

 

yes, that is the same ccfl screen on tablet

 

Get-em while they are hot.
http://cgi.ebay.com/Boehydis-AFFS-IBM-X200-X201-Lcd-Panel-HV121WX4-120-Matt-/120595027088

 

If anyone ever finds any nice screen upgrades for the x201s with high resolution please let me know.

 

Thanks for all who contributed to this thread, I just modded my x200 w/ the HV121WX4-120 screen and it looks awesome!

For those with this screen when looking at the device manager > monitor > hardware ID do you see BOE089A?

 

Kusan, where did you get your HV121WX4-120 screen and how much did you pay for it? I've been looking for a decently priced source to no avail...

 

got it from ebay - from the link that harryc56 posted above. works perfect no dead pixels just need to calibrate it ...grays are to yellow/brownish

anyone have similar issues with the HV121WX4-120 ?

 

colors are usually warm on AFFS/AFFS+ panels.   unless the CCFL backlight is getting tired, you should be ok.

 

erik, how would you know if the ccfl backlight is going out or the age of the panel? I actually loaded khtse icc color profile but the gray borders in windows xp kind of look beige/gray not a flat gray.

 

unlike desktop LCD monitors, where a timer is used to record the number of hours of LCD operation. The laptop LCD doesn't have that.

If a CCFL is about to go out, it usually dims quite significantly and on the last leg it should give a reddish tinge and takes longer time to warm up than a new CCFL tube.

Age of the panel is usually inferred from the manufacturing date of the laptop, unless the LCD was changed during the life of the laptop.

 

using someone else's ICC profile isn't recommended.   every panel calibrates differently due to CCFL temperature, ambient lighting, age, production run, etc.

without seeing your panel with my own eyes, it's impossible to say if it's normal.   most likely it's fine.   unfortunately, buying used CCFL panels leaves a variable due to what lead_org explained above.

the age of your panel would be written on the information label on the back of the panel.   you might be able to use something like lavalys everest to read the info.   but, age isn't automatically an indicator of how much a panel has been used or how much life it has left.   all we know is that it's used.

if the color cast can be calibrated out and brightness goes high enough for you then enjoy the display and don't worry about it.

 

bought it from ebay new from a reputable seller the panel does look brighter than my other laptop's display...will have to purchase some color calibration software to tweak it.

thanks to everyone for their help!

 

no need to buy anything.   just use the intel control panel and tweak the gamma/brightness/contrast manually.   right-click your desktop and select "graphics properties..." to access it quickly.

once open, select "color enhancement" on the left and you'll see controls for color on the right.   individual colors can be changed from there.   most likely you'll only need to play with brightness of each color to accomplish it.

it works great to tweak my X301 display.

 

They're back ...
http://cgi.ebay.com/Boehydis-AFFS-IBM-X200-X201-Lcd-Panel-HV121WX4-120-Matt-/110565903945

 

Get 'em while you can. If you don't, you've got no one to blame but yourself.

 

I get the following HWID
DISPLAY\BOE089A\4&3A89619C&0&00000400&00&02

Also, I downloaded and installed the display .inf from the X200T (do not know if ithas any impact).

I am used to using IPS/AFFS screens. However, the difference between my original X200 screen and this one amazes even me, which tells me that the original X200 screen must be one of the worst LCD panels I have ever set my eyes on.

 

Is this the same screen?

BOEHYDIS HV121WX4-120 LAPTOP LCD SCREEN 12.1" - eBay (item 260620640922 end time Aug-14-10 12:13:35 PDT)

 

Beware the description says it's a 100% compatible screen. I bought one with the same description from another ebay seller browngranite for the same price and it turns out to be a HT121WX2-103. I contacted the seller and he said he only sells compatible screens which he means his screen can be fitted into your computer. I filed a complaint and ebay is getting my money back. I bought one from thinkpad-2007 and it turns out the correct one.

Sean

 

Great work!,
I also have a x201 (3249) and I'm looking for LCD replacement. Your mod is a good option, but I wonder if I can use a LED panel replacement.

what you think about this HV121WX6-100?
http://www.beck-oled-lcd-tft-display.de/display-datenblatt/typ/boe/HV121WX6-100.pdf

It is expensive although ....

 

not sure about that. can you tell me where did you get it from? If it works, I am interested too

 

Not without some serious skillz. See here.

 

Hey there, I was just wondering if anyone has ever done a screen upgrade for the x201 series and if so, where did you get it? I have found what appears to be an aftermarket screen upgrade company called ScreenTek, but I see nothing specific about having a special version for the x201. Any help is very welcome. My main goal is a higher contrast ratio.

Also, I see that Lenovo is offering LED as an option for some of their laptops -- then what is the current technology used for non - LED laptop screens?

 

http://forum.notebookreview.com/len...s-x200affs-x200-equipped-flexview-screen.html

have a read of this thread, this should help you make some important decision on your LCD upgrade. Also refer to Handai's post about the LCD upgrade on his/her X201.

 

start reading this post since that's where handai got his start.

(duplicate thread merged with original)

 

No one never ever noticed that

they are all 6bit AFFS

which means, other than viewing angle, they are not superior at all with TN

6bit per RGB channel is a joke for all the people thinking AFFS will give you a better color in this thread

 

There is no 8-bit panel this size to begin with. Better color is achieved through better contrast. Supreme viewing angle is just a plus. I think the biggest joke is the fact that you're looking for an 8-bit panel in a notebook that is less than 15".

 

i don't think no one is really going to do serious photoshop work on the x20x, the biggest problem with the x20x LCD is the poor viewing angle, which sort of presents itself when couple of people try to watch some movies together.

 

someone noticed.   take a look at this post on page 26 of this thread saying "99.something percent of notebook displays are only 6-bit."

this has been the case for over ten years.   even modern wide-gamut displays are suspect in their true bit depth ( especially those claiming 10-bit/40-bit output).

 

OK, my apologies for not read every page of this thread and made a false conclusion.

there are people noticed those are 6bit screens.

The only advantage of this 6bit affs screen is the viewing angle, and it is more of a issue for those larger screen laptops.

TN screens are usually have larger contrast than non-tn screens,

The stock panel of x201 is LED, I guess the contrast improvement you will notice with the AFFS panel is really really small or even lower.

I am the one gonna seriously PS on X201 if it is the only Non-TN 8bit screen laptop option. Why not ? CPU is fast, ram can hold up to 8GB, runs PS like a charm. When at home , I can simply attach bigger IPS monitors and mouse and keyboard to the x201 dock an enjoy it as a desktop. but will I'm on the go or showing other people photos, 262,144 colors VS 16,777,216 colors, 8bit panel gonna really make a difference.

BTW, some 6bit TN can "shake" to simulate more colors, I don't know if this 6bit AFFS can...

 

having owned several AFFS, AFFS+, and PVA tablets (and a tablet-modded notebook or two), i can say with absolute confidence that viewing angles, color fidelity, and contrast are all superior on the tablet panels.   you really need to see these panels in real life before continuing a negative path in this thread.   your conclusions above are unfortunately incorrect regarding X20x systems.

regarding contrast, X201 tablet panels (AFFS+ and sPVA) are 500:1 contrast and X201 notebook panels (TN) are 250:1 contrast.   TN is not better in this case.

 

please provide the model number of the S-PVA screen on X201t

I never heard of it, but if it is true, and it is 8bit panel, I will defiantly buy it.

BTW, my wife is still using the x61t SXGA+ LED, (I changed the back light myself)

even the contrast is improved, but still, lack of colors is the biggest issue.

So I guess I have the right to give negative feedback on AFFS 6bit screens.

 

13N7270 is the FRU number for the samsung LTN121AP03101.   it's a 6-bit sPVA panel with an LED backlight.   i posted about it on page 19 of this thread ( link).   being LED, it will not plug directly into an X200 or X201 notebook (which is, after all, the original topic of this thread).

 

sigh~

another 6bit wide viewing angle SPVA panel

 

crapping on this thread won't change the fact that 99.x% of notebook panels are 6-bit.   if you don't like this fact, please start a new thread.   your points and complaints are off-topic here.   thank you.

 

MultiSync 30-inch Widescreen LCD Display - NEC Australia


go buy this and lug it around with your laptop.

 

What are the different types of upgrade screens for the x201 (matte and glossy, what is the part number for the glossy?)? Will screens with higher resolution that the one it comes with work? And where's the cheapest reliable place to buy them from? Thank you.

 

Any idea if this one: BOEHYDIS HV121WX4-120 LAPTOP LCD SCREEN 12.1" WXGA GLOSSY CCFL $75 would work with the x201i? It's glossy but I'd take anything over the default screen. ResellerRatings has them as pretty reputable.

 

Don't buy it. It's likely not the BOE screen, but a third party one that will fit. I'd recommend this one. It's obviously more expensive, but probably the real deal. Just as important it's already got the digitizer and touch surface removed, which is a pain in the rear job to do. You certainly can get a cheaper one via eBay if you want to do the removal yourself.

 

Thanks for the heads up. Would the one you linked to work in an x201i provided I get the previously mentioned cable and inverter?

 

It should work.

 

Awesome Thank you!

 

I think the stock screen isn't that bad honestly. The OP shows some nice pics, but as I understand there's more to AFFS screen than viewing angles? I'm fine with the angles as they are now. It's certainly much more usable screen than m11x screen in every situation except the perfect darkness. I'd NEVER get a glossy screen again.

I'm not quite clear whether this AFFS is glossy as in glossy glossy... if you know what I mean

 

The contrast is also better compared to normal TN screen. I also have the M11x, which I'm happy with, except for the screen. Every time I go back to using my X200 with AFFS screen, the M11x makes me weep

 

I'm definitely getting used to the stock screen. A little bump in saturation in Intel graphics properties (+10) makes it look a lot less washed out to me, and I don't mind it at all anymore. I was particularly at odds with how not bright it was to begin with (I'm using 12/15 right now which is not doing favors to the battery life), but now I'm finding myself turning down the brightness on my Samsung netbook to make myself more comfortable.

That said, the x201i has the cheapest looking laptop screen I've seen in the last few years. Horizontal viewing angles also seem really bad to me, with either or both left and right edges looking darker and prismatic at any given time. While I can live with it for the time being, I'm really glad I can change it to something much better later on. I love how easily almost any part of the ThinkPad can be replaced, and it's the number one reason I'm keeping my x201i despite all of the minor niggles I've encountered.

 

ThinkPads use screens from multiple suppliers, some better than others. The Samsung I got in my X200 I ddin't think was that bad. It's not the AFFS, but it isn't too bad. I've heard the AUO is pretty bad. Calibrating the screen can help some.

 

So, for an X200 CCFL it's necessary a HV121WX4-110 without touchscreen and digitizer and all work is just screen replacement.

Is this a correct statement?

By the way, as far I understood HV121WX4-110 is a glossy screen, are there matte version of it? Reading through some comments apparently there is HV121WX4-120 model, but I found only one on ebay and it's $400.

Is there any other matte alternative? Perhaps a glossy screen may not be too bad, but still would be nice to have a non glossy one...

Thanks.

 

You need to remove the touch surface to make the LCD fit. Plus it does effect the PQ a bit. You can leave the digitizer. I did on mine because the connecting cable went into the screen and I didn't want to cut it or take the screen apart. I'd say if you can find one without the touch surface and digitizer, and it's not too much extra, that's the way I'd go.

A couple times I've seen the 120 come up on eBay for around $200, but they go fast.

I have the glossy version in my X200. Occasionally the gloss is annoying, but it's mostly a very good screen.

 

Yeah, looks like for $118 it has both removed Boehydis AFFS LCD screen Panel for X200 HV121WX4-110 - eBay (item 110546171125 end time Oct-10-10 19:58:27 PDT)

Thanks.

 

I bought a similar item off eBay (UK) couple of days ago ( eBay - The UK's Online Marketplace). Doesn't say Boe Hydis on it anywhere and the description says "equiv" so wasn't expecting the real deal, especially at 75 beans (pounds sterling). However, when it arrived yesterday it looked exactly like the one pictured in your link without the digitizer or glass so I thought the chances of it being the genuine article were slim, although it did have a sticker saying HV121WX4-110 -woohoo! A quick plugin test showed that it worked - bonus! After reassembly into machine and proper power up did it begin to look like the real deal. Of course, I have no basis to determine whether it is or not but, for me, it's a damned sight better than the original - like getting a new computer! I reckon it's a winner!

By the way, I don't work them...

 

Nice! How is the whole glossiness working for you?