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    Please post any 42mm m.2 hdd you have found.

    Discussion in 'Lenovo' started by AGoff, Jul 26, 2013.

  1. MyDigitalSSD

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    No 256GB in the works. These things are tiny and only 2 flash chips can fit on board and the largest Toshiba has available is 64GB. If Toshiba comes out with a reasonably priced 128GB flash chip then it will be a go.

    The best way for you to do that would be use the 128GB as a cache drive with fnet in maximized mode (reads and writes to from SSD only and writes data to HDD in intervals) then you don't have to worry about what goes on the SSD the software will move whatever you are using the most at the time to the SSD.

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    After performing the steps noted in the Amazon comments (Turning on legacy and cloning from the existing drive to the M.2 SSD while legacy is on and then changing it back to EFI) it now boots fine in EFI mode. Restart and Shutdown and cold start works without issue. The only glitch I've noted is when doing a complete shutdown, pressing power immediately to turn it back on results in a hang about 50% of the time.

    Other than that one issue the M.2 SSD drive works great and is significantly faster than the 1TB drive.

    Cheers,
     
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    OK I am a noob to SSD, so how does the Y410P with the 24GB SSD cache help my laptop? The most used softaware will more then likely be Adobe Lightroom 5 for photo touch ups. Would is help if I went with the MyDigitalSSD 64gb ?
     
  4. MyDigitalSSD

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    Whether you run your OS and programs directly from the SSD or use it as cache; whatever is on the SSD will be accessible at nearly 40 times (random 4k) the speed of your Hard Drive. 64GB will be plenty of cache for your purpose. 24GB might be tight. Also I suggest running in maximized mode with fnet it will turn your cache drive into a virtual main drive because it will be reading and writing everything you are doing to the SSD.and synching up with your HDD only when your computer is idle.
     
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    OCZ Vertex 4 64GB beats the SC2 64GB quite handily, what do I win? Oh and it came out a year ago...

    Lets see, OCZ scores here: Post your HD Tach scores | Page 12 | TechEnclave - Indian Technology Forum
    For CrystalDisk the OCZ beats the SC2 in every category but Seq. Read. For AS-SSD you didn't post specs for the M.2 SC2 but found review for the mSATA SC2 (same controller), and again the Vertex 4 64GB beats the SC2 in every category except Seq Read and 4K read (barely) and the Vertex destroys the SC2 in 4K-64Thrd and Access Times. MyDigitalSSD 128GB mSATA SuperCache 2 Caching SSD Review | The SSD Review
     
  6. MyDigitalSSD

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    I said 64GB, our 64GB SC2 is the fastest in the series. As you can see in link the specs are very well rounded and it is supposed to be half the SSD the OCZ is with a 4 channel controller and 19nm flash .vs the vertex with an 8 channel controller and 32nm flash.

    http://www.mydigitaldiscount.com/de.../mdssd-sc2-m2-sata6g/064GB-M2-SC2-Crystal.png

    May have been boasting a little :eek: Was just trying to point out this little sucker is not your average tiny SSD as it actually holds a candle to the best of 2.5" SSDs.

    MyDigitalSSD
     
  7. somethingcool

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    And I posted benches specifically for 64 GB, the bigger drives eat the SC2 for lunch.
    Also the IOPS on the SC2 are pretty low comparatively, as is latency, the two things that really matter.
    I'm curious why you can't do more channels? Does the Phison controller not support doing 2 channels per NAND package?
     
  8. MyDigitalSSD

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    The bech you posted was for the 128GB over at TheSSDreview.

    Only enough space for 4 flash chips on the board.

    My main point is as far as the user experience there is almost no way they are going to be able to tell the difference while in use. While that is a different story vs. the stock HDD in all of these computers. Going from your Stock HDD to running on our M.2 SSD vs. running on a 2.5" SSD are both going to give you what you are looking for as far as SSD speed and whip the floor with your HDD.

    M.2 upgrade is easy and leaves your HDD for data without making any other costly modifications and/or trade offs (Loss of HDD or CD/DVD Drive).

    MyDigitalSSD

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  9. Jobine

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    If you are running SLI, chances are you will want to keep the HDD for all your games, movies and large files, hence for maximum OS performance getting a M.2 SSD is the only option.
     
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    Right, like I said you didn't post any AS-SSD results for the SC2 64GB so I used the 128 for that comparison, the CrystalDisk I was comparing to was from 64 GB.

    As does every basically every other mSATA SSD, but a lot do use 8 channels though, 2 channels per chip. Was just wondering if that is not possible with the Phison or maybe it doesn't give a performance boost, but something for you to consider to increase speed. Ok looked up the specs, the Phison S9 maybe can't do it: " Supports interleave, 2-plane and 4-channel Flash access"
     
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    Have been out of the loop so to speak for many years on PC components. Decided to pickup a new notebook after much research of my needs.
    I ended up with a Lenovo u530. I was pretty certain of the MB configuration and was delighted to indeed find a M.2 x 42mm port that is not in use. (OE setup is the seagate 500gb hybrid drive w/ 8gb ssd) ......and I have not even fired it up yet.

    Mr MyDigitalSSD - As I already orderd one of your 128gb - can you confirm if the port is 'active'?
    Any knowledge of the u530 bios and if it is adjustable to run the 128 as a primary boot drive?
    Also is the fnet software a replacement for the Intel SRT

    This a an excellent thread, read all 7 pages with much interest!
     
  12. MyDigitalSSD

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    We have no reports of any Lenovo PC's with the M.2 ports inactive. Many vacant with some cobwebs on them but one of our M.2's will fix that problem :)

    I see no reason that you should not be able to configure your system to boot from the M.2 port.

    These directions were posted on an amazon review of our product. Seems to do the trick.

    >1. I went into bios and changed boot mode to legacy support, boot priority to legacy first.
    >2. I then installed the drive into the ngff slot. Then went back into bios to make sure drive showed up.
    >3. In bios i then put the ngff drive as the first one in the boot order.
    >4. I then cloned the hdd to the ssd using Acronis true image (I used the Arconis boot disk, since the program itself would get stuck when trying to reboot Win8)
    >5. Then disconnected the hdd to make sure i can boot off the ssd.
    >6. I then reconnected the hdd, wiped the hdd and repartioned it as a data drive.
    >7. Last step, went back into bios and changed back to UEFI secure boot

    I know that if you can get Maximized mode working without any errors then it is going to blow the Intel Cache software out the water because you are going to be reading and writing to your SSD and it will only write to your HDD during idle time other than that the fnet default mode is very similar to all the other cache software on the market now. Note there have been a few errors reported while using fnet in maximized mode. It is a FREE software literally nothing built into the SSD price so take it or leave it.

    Let me know how things work out.

    MyDigitalSSD
     
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    Having that much SSD storage is irrelevant to me, because i'd rather store my large files on an HDD due to intensive writes, not to mention the COST :eek:
     
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    I care! The smaller NAND chips mean we're that much closer to a 256GB 42mm M.2 SSD. Then I'll jump on it.
     
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    I hear that, a 240GB option would be nice and we will certainly offer it when it is ready but I was simply pointing out that anything over 128GB is not particularly popular. The 480GB mSATA (similar to m.2) options on the market now are not even making the Amazon top 100SSD list and to be in the 90S on the back of that list all you have to do is sell around 10pcs a week and goes up virtually exponentially from there.

    MyDigitalSSD
     
  18. octiceps

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    It's because of price. The more affordable and commodity these high-capacity SSD's become, the more people will buy them. Pure flash storage isn't feasible yet for most people who need a lot of space, but if someday I can get 1TB mSATA + 1TB 2.5" SSD all for $500 or less... :thumbsup:
     
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    That is great news Jammer124. I will share your post with anyone who asks.
     
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    is there any way of getting the M2 128 Gb M2 drive over here in germany..... amazon won`t send it and though extensively searching i was not able to locate a retailer over here....

    Cheers,
    L.
     
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    PM the mydigitalssd user on the forum and ask them if the ship international.


    Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD
     
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    If you look at this site, looks like they ship worldwide

    Shipping Information | My Digital Discount
     
  24. MyDigitalSSD

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    Yes MDD ships worldwide. We also have a European reseller called Memoryc. I told him to place his order there if it is better for him considering any duties taxes and shipping expenses.

    MyDigitalSSD
     
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    I can confirm that these speeds are a TAD slow, but nothing incredibly bad. I have a Sandisk 2.5" Ultra Plus 256gb SSD in my desktop right now, and it is the fastest computer I have ever used, its sequencial write is 237.3 and sequential read is 530.2, so the MydigitalSSD is not far behind a fullsize SSD, and at only 42mm, I would anticipate it being a tad slower.
     
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    Hi
    is there a reseller for those MyDigitalSSDs in los angeles?
     
  28. MyDigitalSSD

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    There are not but if you order it from MyDigitalDiscount you can get it overnight and without tax.

    MyDigitalSSD
     
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    If I have a X240 and I rip the 2.5 out and leave her empty?The X240 comes with a 16GB M.2 Solid State Drive. I'd like to replace the 16GB with: (And do a Linux install on)

    MyDigitalSSD 128GB Super Boot Drive 2242 42mm SATA III 6G M.2 NGFF SSD | My Digital Discount

    MyDigitalSSD 128GB Super Cache 2 42mm SATA III 6G M.2 NGFF SSD | FNet HybriDisk Software | My Digital Discount

    What I don't get is what one is "better" and why? What is the difference between a cache and a boot?

    I should see significant differences in the total weight of the machine, the power consumption, and speed vs. the stock HDD. I should see small differences in total weight of the machine and power consumption but not speed vs. a 2.5 SSD, correct?
     
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    They are the same thing, we came out with the Super Boot because many people got confused over the the Super Cache line. We had some many questions asking if it could be used as a system drive (the description made it very clear that you don't have to use it as a cache drive drive but the questions just kept on coming) so we are re-releasing this exact drive as the Super Boot Drive. It makes a great low cost low density boot/system drive.

    MyDigitalSSD
     
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    Hi, I bought a Y510P with 24Gb cache, and planning to get 128GB from MyDigitalSSD. I just would like to know, what exactly is maximized mode? Is this only applied when using m.2 as a cache or for a boot drive as well? Thanks!
     
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    Not sketchy at all. Transcend is a well known brand. Sold by many retailers.

    Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk
     
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    I wonder how will this compare to MyDigitalSSD's
     
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    Who makes their NAND, controllers, and firmware?
     
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    Probably some OEM party. They just brand and re-sell AFAIK. Can't find any specific controller for their new line-up, for now.
     
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    For an SSD, that is the definition of sketchy...
     
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    If that's your definition then you're right.

    Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk
     
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    Uh-huh, would you trust your data to a drive of unknown quality? Have you ever experienced that sinking feeling when an unreliable SSD dies on you?

    If SSD specs weren't important, people wouldn't be upset over stuff like this: PNY Catches SSD Bait-and-Switch Bug | Maximum PC

    But whatevs, it's a moot point anyway considering the huge selection of high-quality drives from the actually reputable companies out there such Intel, Samsung, OCZ, Toshiba, Crucial/Micron, ADATA, Plextor, SanDisk, etc.
     
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    My highly regarded Crucial M4 128GB died on me from one day to another. It didn't boot anymore. Luckily I was able to extract my data. So yes I prefer to stick to brands like Samsung and Crucial. Also OCZ had a bad reputation for their earlier series. So even known brands fail.

    Transcend probably just buys the firmware from the controller manufacturer, this isn't bad or unreliable per se.

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    It's untrustworthy if even the basic specs are unknown, not to mention they're a bit player in the market that nobody has ever heard of. Just my opinion.
     
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    The Article I linked states they use "Transcend's own TS6500 controller, DDR3 DRAM cache, and MLC NAND Flash."


    It would also reason that if they make the controller, they also write the firmware. ;)
     
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    And what is Transcend's track record?
     
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