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    T440s up on Lenovo website (IPS Screen, 1080p)

    Discussion in 'Lenovo' started by bdoviack, Jul 8, 2013.

  1. iofthestorm

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    Hmm I have to say the T440 doesn't look that bad either, but probably still going to go for the T440s. I decided after my current laptop that laptops should be portable first and foremost, and just have a desktop for performance. Thanks for all the pictures guys!
     
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    Sorry ibmthink, but since all three (t440s, t440, t440p) pictures are on this thread...

    Does it look like the t440/p are more 'gray' than the t440s? Probably just picture quality, but I like the blacker look myself.
     
  4. ibmthink

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    I think its just because the picture quality. They won´t be that grey in the reality, T440s is also darker in reality than on the pictures.

    These are not "real" pictures, they are photoshoped etc.
     
  5. stevod

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    Great find!
     
  6. MiB

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    Lenovo's latest Haswell Thinkpad designs are a major disappointment. They've essentially killed the T4xxs series with this T440s abomination of an ultrabook.
    It's thick, clunky and very poorly designed.

    At least the T430s had a full power mobile CPU, capability for 6 +3 bay cell batteries that were completely external and swappable, as well as full dual channel 16GB ram.
    It just needed a better quality display and a trackpad without friction bumps (what were they thinking?).

    Lenovo's product & design manager's should be spanked silly for what they've done to these latest Thinkpads.
     
  7. lightgamer

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    To be fair current Thinkpads aren't exactly think and sleek
     
  8. Leudast

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    And then you say the T431s was perfect (sans screen + ram), however they are virtually identical physically. I'm confused.

    Anyway, I'm buying one. So they did something right.
     
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    Is that a new power adaptor port I see?
     
  10. pipspeak

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    I presume you meant the T430s, not the T431s. I'm not a great fan of the new design in part because it looks like a Dell :D And I'm not sure the front edge is not gonna dig into wrists (unlike the nice sloped front edge of the T430).

    I'll wait to see what the options are for the non-s models... here's hoping it's still possible to have a true dual-disk system (and that Lenovo has not opted for the silly 42mm M.2 "cache" drive), two RAM slots to play with and decent battery options. Otherwise it'll be one big step forward (screen) but several steps back (bye bye flexibility). I'll also wait to see what the build quality is like, but I worry it's taken a step back.

    I'm starting to fondly remember the old IBM days where Thinkpads would always be a generation or so behind the curve but using proven components and designed to easily outlast the Dells and HPs of the world. Seems Lenovo is trying to be too hip with its business machines now. It's like watching a 50 year old trying to squeeze into too-skinny jeans.
     
  11. MiB

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    Yes, I meant the T430S. Thanks for catching that. Post edited.


    Good analogy except the jeans look like bell bottoms to me.
     
  12. MiB

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    Agreed, except that if you wanted a relatively thin & sleek but full powered and fully configurable 14" Thinkpad, the T430s was actually a pretty good option with the exception of its dismal display and touchpad.
     
  13. Yuxie

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    THe T440 and T440p aren't thicker than our presents machines. As I predicted, the T440 is about the same thickness as the T430s and the T440p is the same thickness as the T430. The design change here is that they (rounded) squared-off every edge rather than sloping the front bottom area (therefore making them look thicker). I like the new design, they make them look like beasts. I found that the old 'sloped' design make them look over stuffed, like the center was more stuffed than the sides

    Also, another one of my predictions was that the T440 would replace the T430s in terms of both thickness and power, same situation with the T440p and T430. This is due to Lenovo trying to thin down Thinkpads. But since they aren't able to suddenly trim off half an inch, they will set the 'default' T430 thickness to T430s level, then make the 'original T430' a 'p' - subscripted machine.
     
  14. Kaso

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    Actually, if your T430s happens to have the Samsung panel (LTN140KT03401), a slight adjustment of Gamma will make it pretty good, or the use of a color profile can make it really good.

    http://forum.notebookreview.com/lenovo/685419-t430s-monitor-profile-info.html

    Given the preliminary views of the new 14" ThinkPad models, the T430s looks quite nice.
     
  15. MiB

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    t440
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    t430s
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    Sorry, but the T430s is nowhere near as chunky as the T440.
     
  16. Yuxie

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    Don't like the slant fool you. The T430s is visibly thicker at the back than the front. The T440 dosen't hide any of its thickness. (complete opposite of the macbooks, airs, and the iMacs, where it looks super thin from every angle...until you measure it.

    As usual, go by weight, not height.
     
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    Interesting read, if slightly PR-centric :D A 256GB SSD option is nothing new for Thinkpads. Not sure who would opt for Lenovo's SSD (currently a $380 option on the T430s) when for the same money one could get a 512GB aftermarket SSD and keep the standard HDD
     
  19. ibmquality

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    I wonder how they heard October availability. I think people have been posting the same but in my mind I am hoping September. October 1st? October 31sts. Such a wide range.
     
  20. mfizz

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    With T440s being sold by resellers since the day before yesterday, I find a official release date in October highly unlikely. Plus I was told September 1st for web-purchase in the USA too.
     
  21. iofthestorm

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    Well, they did talk to a guy from Lenovo, but maybe that was only for Australia.
     
  22. nicolaim

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    Thanks!!

    Here's a quick summary in English:

    Build quality, materials, surface finish, solidity: excellent, much better than T431s and better than X1C.
    Weight: 1.56 kg.
    Display hinges: good.
    Keyboard: excellent.
    Trackpoint: unusable due to button placement.
    Touchpad: he seems to like it despite saying the click sound is very annoying and the entire pad is loose within the palm rest.
    Display: FHD is AHVA by AUO. Excellent, better than X220 IPS. Great black levels, contrast, colour gamut, colour accuracy.
    Speakers: excellent when on a hard surface. Better than X220, T420, X1C, W500, T50, T510, T520, but not as good as X300.
     
  23. B'midbar

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    Told by who? This fall's crop from Lenovo doesn't appear any different from years past in that the information about availability is all over the board, though a web purchase availability tomorrow would be sweet if true.
     
  24. ibmthink

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    Yeah. I never heard anyone give an exact date for a laptop. Any Lenovo laptop. Usually just the month. And many have said or "heard" that it would be between September and October. I was just wondering if there were trends for the days when new laptops were on sale? Like music cds always come out on Tuesdays and new movies usually come out on Fridays. So I was just wondering could we figure out what day the laptops would NOT be coming out. Any trends?
     
  26. Pecka-

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    What does that mean? :confused:
     
  27. nicolaim

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    He says there's no way to feel which button his thumb is on, and the buttons are so far from the Trackpoint he can't reach them properly.
     
  28. ibmquality

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    Having played with the T431s I can attest to that. The buttons/sensitivity area is far out. And I have big hands.
     
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    just got off with a lenovo representative in the customer chat. said won't be available until mid september.
     
  30. Pecka-

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    That's a bummer indeed. I have small hands so for me it will be even worse.
     
  31. ibmquality

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    Funny, I spoke to one yesterday that said "we don't know that information at this point. But would you like me to email you when we do?". I said yes.
     
  32. qwerty3656

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    Showing my ignorance. If I buy an aftermarket SSD, I have to re-install the operating system, right (you put the operating system on the SSD, right)? Do I also need some sort of software to bridge the SSD with the other drive?

    Edit: would you also buy after-market memory?
     
  33. B'midbar

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    Plenty of drive cloning software out there, including Freeware. I like Macrium Reflect. However, best to install from scratch, usually get much better performance and less bloatware that way. Just be sure to download all your system drivers in advance and have them ready when installing.

    For the former exercise you'd attach the new drive via a USB enclosure, then do the cloning, then swap the new drive into the HDD bay on the machine.. For the latter you'd put the new drive in the main bay, boot from a bootable USB jump drive or DVD drive with OS platter if you have it.

    Yes, I also buy after-market memory. Much cheaper. Partial to Crucial on SSDs and Patriot or G-Skill on memory.
     
  34. 2013aug24

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    i'm beginning to wonder if anyone there knows what is going on
     
  35. B'midbar

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    Probably not. Not any moreso than any Lenovo sales reps. :cool:
     
  36. ArcticMonkeys

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    Can someone tell me what's the specs of this thing? I have checked their website but there's no info regarding specs.

    Thanks
     
  37. B'midbar

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    ThinkPad T440s Ultrabook Plenty of reviews out there as well that web searches would yield up.
     
  38. ArcticMonkeys

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    It only says coming soon. No detailed specs?
     
  39. vinuneuro

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    The user guide for this product seems to be in it's finished form. Heat Output in specifications lists 45W and 65W max separately. That 20W difference would suggest there will be standard and ULV processors offered.
     
  40. pipspeak

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    Ah, so you'll receive an email a week after web sales begin then :D
     
  41. djklmnop

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    T440s seems to be the perfect laptop for me! Except they messed with the trackpoint buttons which may unfortunately be a deal breaker for me. I was looking for a reason to upgrade from my X230, but with bad reviews of the new trackpoint buttons, I would be left with using the touchpad and would have to weigh lenovo's touchpad against other brand's.

    Its too bad they had to mess with a proven concept.
     
  42. Jobine

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    Nvm, i dun goof'd.
     
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    I'm disappointed to hear that the HD 4400 will be there instead of the HD 5000 for graphics.
     
  44. Jobine

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    If you need graphics performance on your Thinkpad, might as well upgrade to the NVS card anyways. On the bright side, there's lower costs and better battery life.

    Is anyone here experience with OC'ing Intel HD chips?
     
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    Same here. I was really hoping the T440 series would be the holy grail of Thinkpad for me, and it sounds like it would be if not for the drastic step backward they took with the trackpoint buttons. About the only non-negotiable item I have for a laptop is the trackpoint. That is why I have never strayed from ThinkPads in the first place. It sucks that they are disregarding the dedicated trackpoint users out there just because they want to give more room for gestures and other crap. I can understand wanting to accommodate the many users who have no allegiance to a trackpoint, but they don't have to go so far in the opposite direction.

    Disappointing indeed.
     
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    I have no problem with Lenovo wanting to put Gesture support in their laptops. Hell, i have a clickpad on my Lenovo laptop. However, i do think things like that should be reserved for the Idea line, not the Thinkpads.
     
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    I have chatted with multiple Lenovo representatives and they have all told me that there will be discrete graphics, which seems to contradict other posts on this forum. What is the general consensus about this?
     
  48. Jobine

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    I wouldnt be surprised if they shipped with the NVS 5400. Its a nice little card.
     
  49. pipspeak

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    I was under the impression the general consensus in this thread (backed up by plenty of circumstantial evidence) is that there will be discrete graphics, most likely the nVidia GeForce 730M
     
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    I'm gonna wait to see just how good/bad the new design is, but am I the only one wondering whether a combo trackpad/buttonpad floating on four scissor switches is not gonna be terribly durable? I see something like that developing some serious slop and eventually breaking. Hopefully the Lenovo engineers have made it solid since it's gonna be subject to far more pounding and lateral movement than keyboard keys.
     
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