T440s up on Lenovo website (IPS Screen, 1080p)

I thought the one guy from Hong Kong who played with one in this thread actually liked the new trackpoint buttons. So maybe it's a matter of personal preference? For me I've never had a Thinkpad but the reason is want to get one is primarily for the trackpoint, but if it's not as good as it used to be it'll still be better than my current laptop without one. Personally I have a feeling it's just something you have to get used to. Meh, if I could use a crappy first Gen click pad for 3 years I can use a modern click pad with trackpoint attached.

 

So you can add a graphics card to the t440s? Also, is fps the right "spec" in comparing graphics capabilities - if so what is the fps of the t440s?

 

@ iofthestorm,
Yes, of course its a personal preference thing. I am guessing you just need some time to get used to the new TrackPad, thats all. Thats what many users said.

The guy who wrote the review (he is also registered here, his username is "600X") don´t own the T440s. He had some time in the reseller store of the sponsor of the German ThinkPad-Forum, so he could play with the T440s some time. Its not a user-review, its more or less and "First impression"-review.

 

There is, if you look at the service manual there are some pics that have 2 mounting point and 2 heatpipes versus the one heatpipe/mounting point. So there will be a version with discrete graphics.

Hardware Maintenance Manual - ThinkPad T440s

Page 69 has 2 mounting points and 2 heatpipes

Page 75 has 1 mounting point and 1 heatpipe.

 

^in fact most of the diagrams in the manual show two heat pipes to two different locations.

S

 

Rep told me today it would be oct

 

Fps is a measurement specific to a benchmark or game. Like, a specific graphics chip at a specific resolution in Skyrim, let's say, might get 45fps and another night get 55fps, but this is specific to that game at that resolution. Regardless of what option you pick the T440s will not get amazing fps in any game, but you should be able to play many reasonably recent games at low settings at least, even with the HD 4400. According to some benchmarks the HD 4000 was as fast as the Radeon HD 5650 I have in my current laptop and the HD 4400 should be a little bit faster. I also don't really think there will be a huge difference between the integrated and dedicated options because the dedicated options are low end nVidia cards, but you should be able to play slightly more games with it I guess.

 

Another interesting video about the new TrackPad(TrackPoint-Button design:

 

With these trackpads that have integrated trackpoint buttons is it still possible to disable the trackpad without disabling the buttons? I routinely disable the trackpad on my laptops, and I'd hate to think that I have to keep it active just to have the buttons available.

 

Interesting video, can anyone please translate a summary for us?

I think the trackpad/pointer buttons will work fine, if not I'll b!tch about it for the next 5 years. Either way I'm going to wait for the non -s models, namely T440/p, to come out before deciding my next ThinkPad. By then there should be many great reviews of the T440s (not to mention a sale on the T440s when the others come out).

On a side note, I quite like the minimalist look of the new machines, but sincerely hope our space bar won't be that tiny lol

 

The research and development behind Lenovo’s T440s Ultrabook
with Kevin Beck, Lenovo’s Worldwide Competitive Analyst
"won’t be available to buy until around October."

Full Review: The research and development behind Lenovo

 

That's an Australian website, so it's possible that it's referring to Australia only. It seems that it will be released (available online) in the US on September 1st, but there haven't been any confirmations.

In any case, it's very unlikely that they will reach doorsteps before October.

 

Let's just say October and be surprised if it is September. I really doubt it would be a random Saturday. I know Lenovo sends emails about their new computers and I am no marketing major but Saturday is not the day you want to release a new product generally right? Less people on their computers and more people out and about. More than half the people here have gotten October quotes. So for someone to keep saying September 1st that is just way to detailed and off.

 

Funny, I just googled T440s and now the first thing that comes up is the Lenovo website. It says "coming soon". Anyone knows how long it has been up on the American Lenovo site? I could have sworn it was not on there last week. But I can't remember. Maybe that does mean it is coming in September? To have laptop "coming soon" for more than a month seems like a long time.

I guess the next question would be, anyone know the timelines of "coming soon" to availability?

 

The T440s is following the same release path that all their notebooks have in the past few years. First, there's a mention or leak (i.e. hidden website page) of a new notebook in the works (T440s). Then a few bloggers or journalists see one or touch one in the flesh. Then a week or two later, Lenovo will post an order page saying "shipping in 2 or 3 weeks". Of course there are always unforeseen delays that always pop up. Sorry "it's a Chinese holiday this day/week" or they run out of bluetooth chipsets, SSD's, or some other random part that always puts the delay back a few weeks.

Like most of us have said, ordering is the easy part. They can have the website up tomorrow ready for ordering, but delivery is something else. October unfortunately is still looking like the most likely delivery date.

 

I am a T430s owner (i5 - 3320M/ 16GB RAM/ NVIDIA NVS 5200M 1GB) and wonder if T440s (i5- 4200U/ 12GB ram/ nVidia GeForce GT730 2G ) is a good replacement in terms of CPU speed and gaming performance.i can search all the CPU/ GPU benchmark score but I tend to listen advice from experience

I also need advice to choose either 14" HD+ LED Backlight 10 points Multi Touch(1600 x 900) or 14" FHD IPS Backlight (1920 x 1080) without touch. it seems win 8 w/ touch screen makes more sense but the FHD is really attractive...

Thank you for your help!!!

 

You might be able to get the best of both worlds with an FHD touch screen that seems to be available in other countries

 

I am not sure it's available in my area and also both worlds means more money...

 

I agree 100% There is ZERO possibility of ordering starting on September 1st. First, it's a Saturday. I can't think of any electronic company that has ever released something on a weekend. And, that's compounded by being a holiday weekend. Perhaps they will start taking pre-orders IN September, but it's not going to be prior to September 2nd. And, I highly doubt anyone will see delivery in September.

 

To order in September and receive in October is definitely better than ordering in October and receiving in November.. Although, I have heard stories about 2 month delays so......

 

It's order September, receive October. Enough said.

Too much stuff like this for it to be any later (Note est. ship date 9/9/13): 3M ThinkPad X1, X1 Carbon Touch, T440s Touch Privacy Filter from Lenovo | Lenovo | (US) ; http://shop.lenovo.com/us/en/itemdetails/40A20090US/460/6D501EE899104FF9A362D739642CFC27#learnMore


It will arrive some time after the Labor Day Sale, and likely after the post-labor day you-didn't-miss-the-labor-day-sale-because-we're-extending-our-sale sale. Sept 9th.

 

Hilarious! I have been on Lenovo webiste in July and they had coupons that "expired" June 30th. Capitalism and Marketing at its best. Buy before it's too late....... It's never too late. Labor day sale will go on for a bit.

 

Going through the service training pages for both models, it looks like the T440s hardware design is almost completely the same as the T431s. The dimensions are the same, as is the weight. The biggest change is the dual batteries. I wonder how much inferior the touch model's screen will be. It always seems to add some grain and take away contrast.

 

Just wanted to clarify, there's no IPS on the T440s correct?

 

The T440s will be announced in September, thats for sure. The Topseller configurations will be available in October.

No, the FHD screen is IPS.

Yes, of course, you can deactivate the TouchPad in BIOS or in the driver without deactivating the integrated TrackPoint-buttons.

 

If Lenovo is smart, they'll make it available via the Fn keys.

 

Ill just leave this here:
ThinkPad T440s screen + speakers - YouTube
ThinkPad T440s touchpad - YouTube

T431s ThinkPad T440s Review + Vergleich mit X1 Carbon! [ACHTUNG BILDER + VIDEOS!]
The research and development behind Lenovo

 

That IPS screen looks really good.

 

Looks like if you order the Core i7 version, you'll get the HD 5000.

And yes, the IPS screen does look very good.

 

What are Topsellers? I have always heard of the phrase but wasn't sure what it means?

 

Preconfigured versions, I believe. Those usually ships faster since they don't have to customize it for you.

 

These are the pre-configured non-education models, which the Lenovo resellers sell (standard configurations).

There is a "Topseller-Portfolio Guide", which is updated every quarter. The next update will come in October. See: TopSeller Portfolio Quick Reference Guide | LPN | (US)

 

The real fun is always figuring out stackable coupon combos.

 

Sorry, where did you see that?

 

Thanks for this. But aren't even topsellers customizable. Like right now on for all lenovo laptops there are usually 3-4 options per laptop to "Start" from, upon checkout they allow you to add more Ram, up the processsor, or upgrade to SSD. How will I be able to tell the difference between a CTO or topseller. I am not sure if I have ever been on the Lenovo website the first week after a new laptop came out. The T440s will be the first time/laptop I be ordering technology brand new because I NEED it for school. I am just wondering if this thing comes out in mid-september are there any benefits besides ship times to waiting just two more weeks until October's topsellers? What if the estimated ship time for my laptop is 6 weeks for my September order and 4 weeks for my October order? I end up getting it at the same time right?

 

I have only heard of stackable. Never worked for me them although have tried. I use the Barnes and Noble Gold discount login and just go from there. I have only heard success stories online.....

 

Usually comes down to wrangling with a sales rep on the phone, and getting the right person at the right time.

 

Tried that once. Usually like buying online. Just easier, if it works it works if it doesn't it doesn't. As long as I don't pay full price.

 

You can disable individual functions in the Synaptics driver.

I usually disable tap click and cursor move on the touchpad, but still enable multi-finger gestures since the chance of triggering those events by accident is low. I may set a script to disable everything if a external mouse is used.

 

If it ships with an i7 that is above the 4500U it will have HD 5000 or 5100, look at the intel page

 

I'm getting a bit concerned about the weight of this notebook. If the touchscreen adds .4lb like with the X1C, you're getting into the 3.8lb range, which is still with the 3cell battery.

 

No, or at least not directly from Lenovo. The reseller may allow you to add things, or you can customise it yourself.

The top sellers are made in preset configurations in hundreds of units at a time, and for each market. Once they ship to resellers from Lenovo, they're generally available for next day delivery.

The CTOs are built at the Lenovo factory and will generally get to you in around two weeks, although CTO availability and top seller availability may not be at the same time.

For example, here in the UK there have been three top seller preset configurations of the T431s available from resellers since the middle of July. But no CTO yet - still shows as coming soon on the Lenovo website.

S

 

15W processors (for ultrabooks, T440 will probably have 28W or 37W) don't have 5100. It would be nice if this had HD5000 (i.e. 4x50 processor) to choose, but it was only mentioned in some driver description so far

 

Bat about .500 trying it both ways.

 

Okay. I guess I have never been on the website when it was only CTO. Every lenovo laptop I have attempted to configure (X, U, T etc) allowed me to add ram or an SSD.

 

The 4650U processor isn't 15W, it's 28, but it is still an ultrabook processor. It has the HD 5100 graphics.
I would not be surprised if the T440s had something better than a 4500U processor, although I doubt it would get the 4650

 

Hey guys - I've been waiting on this machine, but I'm starting to fear it is going to be a $2000 machine. I am starting to look for a backup option. Could I get your opinion on instead buying this System76 machine and separately buying a copy of Windows 8 Pro (around $130). How do you think that would compare to the t440s? What would I be compromising on? Thanks.

https://www.system76.com/laptops/model/galu1

 

That laptop's battery life is bad. It's about 4 hours. https://twitter.com/system76/status/345213522520719362

 

I am a T430s owner (i5 - 3320M/ 16GB RAM/ NVIDIA NVS 5200M 1GB) and wonder if T440s (i5- 4200U/ 12GB ram/ nVidia GeForce GT730 2G ) is a good replacement in terms of CPU speed and gaming performance.i can search all the CPU/ GPU benchmark score but I tend to listen advice from experience

I also need advice to choose either 14" HD+ LED Backlight 10 points Multi Touch(1600 x 900) or 14" FHD IPS Backlight (1920 x 1080) without touch. it seems win 8 w/ touch screen makes more sense but the FHD is really attractive...

Any thought?
Thank you for your help!!!

 

@ qwerty3656,
Its a Clevo. The same Clevo as this one: Review Schenker S413 (Clevo W740SU) Notebook - NotebookCheck.net Reviews I would say: It plays one league below the T440s. Maybe the components are more powerful, but everything else, except of the screen, which is likely the same, is just worse.