T440s up on Lenovo website (IPS Screen, 1080p)

I would rather have the HD4400 or any Intel GPU because it reduce the need for a dGPU. You won't need a second heatsink and your battery last longer.

 

I've been running the T61 with NVS 140M for over 5 years, using dock and 1440p external monitor too (tormenting it with dual screen, full resolution)...and everything still works great so don't base a hard judgement on dGPUs just because your's happened to fail.

I'd much rather see the 730M GPU included than just Intel's HD5000.

 

I had once a T410s with touchscreen, and it was impossible to use fully opened. In fact it was not laying 100% on the table, so playing a game with a friend was impossible on a flat surface. The screen was not touching the table, except when making a pressure on the screen. (sorry, english is not my language, i hope i'm clear enough)
For that, i give a point to drop hinges which will hopefully allow using the touchscreen when 180° opened !

 

To be fair, playing a game on a tabletop with a friend is not exactly the thinkpad target use case...

 

This is an incorrect assumption. My use case is a perfect example. I currently have a T420s with an i5 CPU, iGPU and 16GB RAM. I don't need the most powerful CPU or a dedicated GPU, but I regularly max out my 16GB RAM running multiple not necessarily CPU intensive applications (dozens of tabs in Chrome, Eclipse, Photoshop, Illustrator, etc.) as well as at least one virtual machine (with it's own set of several applications) at any given time.

The issue isn't even with the soldered RAM for me. If that's the sacrifice that has to be made to fit the thinner profile, that's fine. But there is no reason Lenovo can't provide an option for that soldered stick of RAM to be 8GB. This shouldn't affect the size or thermal profile to any significant degree and would keep this laptop upgrade from being a RAM downgrade for many users.

 

Instead of complaining here, all of you should be posting in Lenovo's forum.

 

Let them complain, it's entertaining.

 

Bingo! Snailed it.

 

Executive management at RIM/Blackberry used to think the same way about their users 'complaining'.
I wonder where they are now....oh yeah....ooops

 

Thats not a good comparison. Lenovo is in a hole different situation than Research-in-Motion.

Also, Blackberrys problem was: The didn´t keep up with the trends. Lenovo is doing the opposite: They are trying to keep up with the trend, and they do. You can´t compare them. Lenovo has a huge home-market behind them, which still grows and where they lead the market in PCs (and they are becoming a Tablet and Smartphone leader there as well). Lenovo is not dependend on one single market, unlike RIM, Lenovo has a wide range of products.

But we will see how Lenovo will do in the future. I have no doubt they won´t have any problems in the next years.

 

Don't get defensive. If you post complaints in Lenovo's own forum, staff like Mark can deliver your feedback to those who make decisions on these things. No one here can help you.

 

You are right but by keeping up with the trend they eliminate uniqueness of the brand. First they got rid of the W70x (a truly amazing mobile workstation with many new features setting it apart from the competition). Now, the trackpoints are crippled. they will completely vanish in a couple of refreshes. the keyboards have changed (only time will tell if it's a good or bad change), what's left is the color Still, I'd probably choose lenovo as my next vendor if could fit my needs into the offered sandbox. luckily I can't. Sadly, there's not much choice out there. I just hope some vendors still keep the modular approach and keep innovating instead of simplifying and following the trend of 80/20.

 

Sure they were great ThinkPads with many unique features, but Lenovo only sold 80.000 units world-wide (!). That was barely enough to cover the cost of their development, and a good reason to kill of this line quickly.

The TrackPont isn´t gone and I don´t think it will be ever really gone. Even if they will decide to change some things, the TrackPoint will still survive. Maybe sometime in the future they will start using an optical TrackPoint, who knows, but there will always be something between the G, H and B keys, if optical or rubbery.

Dell is going the same way, and I guess HP won´t be different at all.

 

As much as I like Mark and count him amongst the very few friends that I still have at Lenovo, no amount of complaining will get anyone anywhere.

One can get help with their complaint about quality of service - or lack thereof - on a repair ticket, but do not for one second think that by posting on Lenovo's forum by *any* amount of users one will be able to influence the future decisions to any extent.

Lenovo does NOT care about what any of us think, and have proven so on zillion occasions. They will do what they want to do, the feedback from user base be damned. Period.

 

Hello, people, as current owner of T400s and have waited for months for T440s specs and delayed buying T430s, I'm totally disappointed in what we got so I hope you don't mind me sharing my opinion. I've been reading this thread each day from the beginning and I feel the need to point out something that many users are complaining about, but it just hurts my eyes to read all this praising of Lenovo going in new directions.

First and main discussion point mentioned here in defending Lenovo is that T440s is Ultrabook and all this hardware in it is OK for one. Well, sorry for caps, but this is SO WRONG!!! T4x0s NEVER EVER WERE ULTRABOOKS but full size powered laptops in extra thin and mobile package! OK, maybe with less battery life, but still with all full sized non-s features in only 1.7kg chasis (mobile full power cpu, mSATA+SATA HDD, optical/hdd/battery ultra bay, 2 ram slots, etc...).

No one can tell me Lenovo could not simply put IPS and mobile Haswell into T430s chasis and get something that no one has on the market now. Even Clevo has tried to make better laptop than Lenovo, of course, with lower quality and went over the top with hot and powerfull CPU. On the other hand, Lenovo decided (even with T431s which was indicator what we are going to get instead of what it should have been - a failed experiment) to change whole T series structure and go for ultrabook hype. They should do it (ultrabooks), but in some T440u form or something, successor for X1 or something similar, not effectively killing T4x0s series proclaiming it is something it never was.

Today are posted pics of Yoga 2 Pro - now, that is miles better choice than new T440s. Lighter, slimmer, more usable, more portable, looks beautiful. T440s in this form as is now is too big and chunky for Ultrabook and too weak as real ThinkPad (with capital T and P) with all the bells and whistles that brand used to carry. It's a shame.

Just my 2cents.

 

Hahaha, YOU. YES YOU are like the classic Blackberry user. They didn't want to change and progress until it was to late. I hope you enjoy the changes ThinkPad are going because I love it. :yes:

 

The Yoga 2 Pro doesn't have a ultra dock and I don't believe you will have an easy time replacing the battery daily. It is definitely not a ThinkPad but they did release a ThinkPad Yoga.

 

Here's another video of the T440s at IFA.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3j32cz2pBGE&feature=youtube_gdata_player

 

Holy shat, 3200x1800 on a thinner Yoga? The T440p better have some impressive options or....or I guess I won't buy one.

Watch 0:24 - 0:28 in this video... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=POKBiU0BV54&feature=c4-overview&list=UUvfUcuSDNOoFsAPsiGdaGPg

I know it's not a ThinkPad, but damn that interior is nice. lenovo could put their better engineering and design force behind the ThinkPad line, not just for the X1C.

 

I'm with you on that one, Lenovo could definitely make such a machine but ... they don't decide for themselves anymore. Intel and a few other key players set a new direction/standard and all the vendors are "encouraged" to embrace the new trend. It's the ultrabook era and we can complain as much as we want but it's all futile. With this generation of notebooks we will be seeing a lot of features gone and connectivity options reduced. This may not be a bad thing in the end but as long as I find those features useful, I'll try to have them even if it means going back to sandy/ivy generations.

And yes, Clevo is the only vendor that I know of, who still pushes the old paradigm and offers unique systems and legacy features. Their 15" ers with 5 hard drive bays look more and more attractive to me. Now, with intel going with very unimpressive performance bumps (CPU part) you might be better of getting an older gen with socketed components and upgrade GPU every refresh. Only problem, Clevo doesn't have a decent business support, same goes for reliability and build quality.

 

The battery life on Clevo is horrible. The laptops are more like portable desktop and they aren't even that portable. Lenovo doesn't want to put its resource behind a laptop that would only serve a niche market.

 

T440s won't be available in US until end of October right?

Also just curious, does anyone know when in September the S440 will be available? It seems like it was just recently announced but its already slated for September. I need a laptop asap for school.

Is the S440 a decent choice, I know the T440s is better but I do not need 1080p

 

Guys, at least there is another ultrabook with removable batteries. The whole internal battery trend made by Apple was bad. However, I do hope battery life really improves over the previous laptops.

 

You should expect 7 hours with browsing and 10-12 hours with something like office word. 4 hours with heavy applications. You can read the Anandtech article on the Acer s7 which has the i7 ULV and a nearly identical Whr battery. AnandTech | The Haswell Ultrabook Review: Core i7-4500U Tested

 

Press release said end of October. I don't know enough about the S440 to comment on (too lazy to read the articles!) but in general the T line is the most robust.

 

As a current Clevo owner this is absolutely true. I barely get 50 minutes battery life on my i7 w/ DGPU and 16GB DDR3, and it runs at ~70 degrees celcius most of the time. Its an utterly rubbish machine.

 

That thing is crippled in too many ways, but I'd love the clementine orange colour on a T440s!

 

Thanks for this! But will have to see it will be the same as the components used might be different. But hopefully the battery is better for the new thinkpads!

 

Some info from Lenovo says September. I think at least some models will be available in September.

 

The T440s is available in September in some market, but worldwide release starts in October.

 

Any information which market(s)?

 

Germany is obviously one of them.

 

Definitely America. Spoke to several reps on separate dates between last friday and Tuesdag asking them.

 

****: Thank you for choosing Lenovo sales chat. I’m ****, your sales chat representative. My rep id is ****. What can I do for you today?
Guillaume: I would like to know if the T440S is going to be available before the end of September ?
****: yes should be launching end of sept
Guillaume: great
Guillaume: do you have an approximate date ?
****: around the 23rd
Guillaume: awesome
Guillaume: thanks !
****: you are welcome
Guillaume: is that the case for all markets ?
****: I only know the US release
****: not sure about the other geo markets

It's the 3rd time a get this answer from differents reps.

 

I didn't ask for dates I just got September or mid-September. Did you ask for dates each time?

 

So for those who are definitely buying the T440s what kind of screen are you getting?1080p or touch screen. I thought that all touch screens were glossy but according to this T440s preview uploaded today, the man seems to imply that the touchscreen is not glossy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwNPfQFxlaM

I guess also anyone buying the extended battery to begin with? What is your usage requirements?

 

Glad to hear it is at least usable with Linux without too much fuss, as I would plan to install it dual boot.

 

My T440s won´t be shipping this week, it should be shipped next monday.

 

Should've gone to Specsavers. I mean

Hopefully it will arrive soon after shipping. I'm eager to know the battery life on this thing is.

 

Newbie here, apologies.

How come yours is already shipping monday? What is a reasonable date to be able to have it in my hands if I live in the UK.

 

Hey guys - I unfortunately have to pull the trigger on a computer and can't wait for the t440s. I would appreciate any thoughts you have on the Sony Vaio Pro 13 vs. Acer Aspire S7-392. This is for a student at university. Thanks

 

Hello tomho147,
I've just found this thread and saw your pictures and I hope that you can give me some advice. I got my T440s and I would like to replace the HDD with a SSD that I already have, but I am not able to remove the base cover. I loosened the 8 screws on the bottom - two screws on the back and the two in die middle part won't release completely - and I can lift up the cover on the edges.
Do you have any advice for me how to remove the base cover? I would really appreciate it.

 

Did you buy Standard batteries or the extended?

 

You can't buy the extended battery in Germany yet.

 

You should only have to remove the 8 screws on the bottom to remove the base cover.

 

I know that I should just remove the 8 screws, but the base cover is still stuck to the device. Or could it be that I can't loosen some of the screws completely?

 

Yes, sounds like at least one isn't completely free.

Since you already have the notebook, can you tell us of how you like it? What battery life are you getting?

 

So upgrading this laptop isn't as easy as previous Thinkpads. I assume one has to remove the 8 screws to access the RAM slot as well? Not a big deal to some but others might find this inconvenient.

 

How often are you opening up your notebooks? An extra 5 minutes worth of work really isn't that inconvenient.

 

8 screws? Lol. I had to remove 55 screws and 10 connectors each time I needed to repaste or upgrade my M18x. And never complained, so you should be fine