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    T440s up on Lenovo website (IPS Screen, 1080p)

    Discussion in 'Lenovo' started by bdoviack, Jul 8, 2013.

  1. nicolaim

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    Please tell me EVERYTHING about the 128 GB SSD. Is it M.2/NGFF (instead of the cache) and not 2.5" (instead of the HDD)?
     
  2. nicolaim

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    ibmthink mentions in his review that the FHD display has some backlight bleed at the bottom edge and that he once experienced ghosting:

    "it has some backlight bleeding at the lower display bezel (you can see it for example when Windows boots)"

    "It only happend one time (I left my notebooks 30 minutes alone), not again until now, but the image stayed there 1 minute or so in the background, then disappeared"
     
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    is the t440p and t440s the same size/weight? Which one would be better for mobile business traveler ?
     
  4. w_km

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    T440s = 3.6 - 4lbs T440p = 4.1 - 4.5 lbs

    T440s = 21mm (at it's thickest) T440p = 28mm (at it's thickest) --> Lenovo has new ThinkPad notebooks for business clients - NotebookCheck.net News The T440p is a bit of a chunker according to these picks.

    You can unplug either of these laptops, take them with you wherever you, and use them however you wish. The T440p is almost 1 pound heavier (or more depending on battery/display configurations) and about 7mm thicker. It all depends on your usage situations. If you need a 14" mobile workstation requiring intense CPU usage, get the T440p. If you just need a solid mobile laptop that flies through office/multimedia like a champ, get the T440s.
     
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    The rep told me that it will replace the 24GB cache. The setup I'm aiming for is 128GB for the operating system and use my M400 512GB SSD as data storage in place of the 500GB mechanical HD. He told me no problem, but I have no idea of the 128GB SSD format. I will ask tomorrow more detailed information and will let you know
     
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    thanks w_km, ill buy the t440s when it comes out in Australia.
     
  7. tomcmelbourne

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    hi did you get 4G mobile broad band with your t440s? Was that an option?
     
  8. arltep

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    Oh god, I hope that it will be NGFF and not absurdly priced. To be honest, I have never heard of a 128gb 42mm M.2 SSD in my limited experience, but I'm still optimistic nonetheless.

    Edit; Saw another post's link to the 128gb 42mm. I sincerely hope that it will be <$200.
     
  9. ArthurG

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    option for the 128GB SSD is 800 RMB here (around 130 USD)
     
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    I'm wondering if it would be possible to have to two external monitors with resolution 2560x1440

    tabook says
    but this is spec for t440s with only integrated graphic card

    probably the main question is what is the limitation ports or graphic card ?

    from the technical point of view

    but if port will be limitations - it should be possible through ultra dock - unfortunately information about dock video ports is really limited

     
  11. nicolaim

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    Do you have the link?
     
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    Page 150. I hope they'll have this option the US, since I haven't see any in retail.
     
  13. Aniras

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    Has anyone seen confirmation that the T440p has an UltraBay, and if so, that it is either the existing Serial Ultrabay Slim or Serial Ultrabay Enhanced? From the look of the pictures, the button:
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    looks frighteningly similar to the cheapy built-in non-UltraBay optical drive of the L4x0 series:
    [​IMG]

    and not much like the existing UltraBay optical drives:
    [​IMG]

    I've seen lots of people talking about the T440p's "UltraBay", but I haven't seen confirmation that it actually is one, and if it is, one that's compatible with current UltraBay devices.
     
  14. ArthurG

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    My Gosh, what a brick this 440P :eek:
    I understand that not everybody wants an ultrabook and needs more performance, but bringing this kind of chassis in 2013 is something that I did not expect from a Thinkpad. A Clevo, I can understand, but a Thinkpad...
     
  15. ibmquality

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    I am getting T440s but I do find it puzzling that they are making laptops that are almost as thick if not thicker than my T43 from 2005.
     
  16. NBReview1

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    That's why Lenovo made a "s". Lenovo seems to get complaints from every person lol - it's too thick, it's too thin, etc, lol.
     
  17. ibmquality

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    Who says it's too thin? lol
     
  18. NBReview1

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    People who says the battery life sucks, I rather they have a bigger battery etc lol
     
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  19. NBReview1

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    Please delete. Wrong post.
     
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    4lbs is a brick? Are you serious? I'm going for the T440s but even the p is damn small for a fully powered laptop.
     
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    Reasoning makes sense. I would like a bigger battery. But so many manufacturers are somehow able to provide better battery life (or more accurate life) in even smaller sizes it is puzzling.

    I wonder if it has that rapid charge technology that the X1 Carbon has?
     
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    It might not be heavy as a brick, but its appearance is pretty brick-ish. Reminds me of a downsized pre-Dell Alienware painted black. And not in a good way.

    While I personally don't like the looks of the 440s, I see that other people could find it aestethically pleasing. I couldn't say the same for 440p. ThinkPads were never regarded as the prettiest laptops around, but this one is outright ugly in my opinion.

    Hopefully it will sell well on merits of its performance...
     
  23. NBReview1

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    Really that many? Can you give me some models with the same specs as the T440p with better battery life and in a smaller size? I would be interested to check them out.
     
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    Why such a big contrast in opinion? The t440p looks the same as a t440s but just thicker.

    Are you confusing the L4x0 series pics with the t440p?!
     
  25. ibmthink

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    Yes, they have a similar design in some aspects, but some other things are different: The T440p uses classic top-mounted hinges (rather than drop-down hinges like the T440s), the T440p is thicker and it lacks the rubber lip around the display.

    Lets wait for some real-worl pictures of the T440p. I think it is difficult to judge ThinkPads by these render pics, the real-world pictures often differ from them very much.
     
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    Hi ibmthink - did your t430s ship with windows 8.1? Is there a start menu? Can you boot to the desktop?
     
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    T430? I don´t own this model, sorry.

    My T440s didn´t come with any preload, and of course not with Windows 8.1, which is not released yet.
     
  28. B'midbar

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    If it's of any interest, NewEgg has them this morning refurbished, manufacturer recertified for $259. The promo code is EMCYTZT4463
     
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    I think Windows 8.1 was released to OEM's a week or two ago so maybe it will show up in new builds? We'll soon see
     
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    Personally, I want a laptop which I can use on a train or economy airline seat. That means a 14" screen at the most. Otherwise there isn't space. I want a dedicated graphics card and as fast a CPU as possible when I am on mains power, and I want long battery life. I don't need high performance when I'm running on battery power. A thin and light computer would be nice if I'm flying with only carry on luggage, but not at the expense of high performance. I also want a decent docking station for the office. I don't care much about the styling, so long as it isn't garish like something from Alienware.

    From the sounds of it a T440p will fit the bill, but I might end up with a HP ZBook 14 or T440s if it doesn't come out in time.
     
  31. B'midbar

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    I went for the Gigabyte P34G over this unit for reasons of the 12GB versus 16GB RAM though, yes, acknowledging I'm going to lose battery time. Will be watching the HP ZBook 14 and the T440p closely, very intrigued by the former though I think it's going to come in $300-500 more than the P34G.
     
  32. kordis

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    You should also look at Dell 7440. Same processors and processors with hd5000, FHD screen option, wwan, mil-spec and all that stuff, however only 8GB of max ram.
     
  33. B'midbar

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    Nope. The 16GB RAM is one of my "must have's." After that it was screen (IPS or AHVA) and weight (less than 4#).
     
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    The Latitude E7440 has two accessible RAM slots. Dell offers only a model with 8 GB of RAM, but you can buy another RAM module and upgrade it yourself to 16 GB. You can look it up in the service manual on page 9. There you will see the two modules.
     
  35. B'midbar

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    HD only, not even HD+, much less FHD. Correction, or rather expansion, to my previous requirements statements beyond IPS or AHVA - FHD as well.
     
  36. xd19

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    It definitely has FullHD, which probably is IPS or something similar (they claim 600:1 contrast ratio). Is there any 14" FHD TN screen?
     
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    does anyone have a clue when is it going to be released in Europe(Sweden precisely) :)
     
  38. kordis

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    Yes, the modules are two, however all the reviews/tech specs say that it supports only up to 8GB
     
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    I kinda like its battleship looks. I think too may people have been brainwashed by the Ultrabook (and macbook) aesthetics of everything these days and in this case I think appearances are deceptive. It's thinner, has a smaller footprint and weighs less than the T430. Assuming it's just as configurable as the T430 and has a true ultrabay then it should be a great machine (fingers crossed)
     
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    With an Dell Premier account you can already order the FHD version. In Europe it's already available for normal customers and units are being shipped and in the US it should be available in the next two weeks. The FHD display is an IPS panel.

    Which reviews? Just take a look at the spec sheet. It has two RAM slots and it supports 1GB, 2GB, 4 GB and 8 GB RAM modules. It is possible to equip it with 16 GB of RAM.
     
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    Not quite.

    No I'm not. The L series - as usual - look both cheap and ugly, where T440p is just ugly IMO.
     
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    I actually don't care about the brick look of T440p. My X220 also looks strange according to many people. What is inside T440p? IBMthink said it has a quad core CPU. If that is the case, I might give my T430 to a poor relative and get the T440p.
     
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    I find it funny that people complain about totally opposite things, but all of them agree that Lenovo has stuffed up the Thinkpad. It's funny.
     
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    Oh I don't know... I've read plenty of comments from those who seem to like the new designs, and the old designs were hardly universally liked either :) Personally I'm waiting until I actually have one in hand before judging the new designs and features (including the new trackpad). Based on the photos, however, I like the cleaner lines of the case, if not the idea of a buttonless trackpad.
     
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    IF... Lenovo announced a setback, saying that no 440(s)(p), x240, or haswell carbons were coming until 2Q 2014...

    What would you buy?
     
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    Definitely the HP ZBook 14. No reviews yet, but it's clearly the closest competitor to the T440s. It fits a larger M.2 SSD, 16 GB RAM, the FHD IPS/AHVA display has power-saving Display Self Refresh, one extra USB port, WiFi on/off button, but I find it ugly.

    The Acer Aspire V7 seems decent, but glossy display, only one USB port is USB3, no DisplayPort, heavy, etc.

    The answer to your question depends heavily on personal preferences. I want a matte display, Ethernet, prefer DP over HDMI, require 3 USB ports, etc. Someone with different requirements/preferences may like the Sony Vaio Pro 13 (though I find it flawed,) or Macbook Air 13.

    Anyway, wait a bit to see what Apple announces for the new rMBPs and there will surely be more laptops available once Windows 8.1 is officially released.

    Edit: I forgot to mention ASUS. If they made a Haswell version of the 15.6" 4.5 lb Zenbook UX51VZ it could be quite interesting.
     
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    I'd stick with what I've got for now (dual-drive T420). The new HP Z-book and Dell 15" M3800 look interesting, but until I've seen real-life reviews of the hardware and build quality I'm not going to risk going down that path, so might as well wait until Q2

    If, however, the W540 appeared in the mean time I might consider that :D
     
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    Please check my math here...
    The T440s comes with either Intel HD 4400 graphics or an Nvidia GT 730M discrete chip, and the specs for the 730M says, "support for up to 4 active displays. Furthermore, high resolution monitors of up to 3840x2160 pixels can now be connected using DisplayPort 1.2 or HDMI 1.4a if available."
    So, if my maths/assumptions are correct, anyone with a T440s and its USB 3.0 dock (Port Replicator 0A33970), should be able to simultaneously run two external 2560x1600 monitors, as long as they do not try to run the T440s monitor at the same time?
     
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    That is a horrible idea. Nobody would use a USB 3.0 dock to reasonable drive a 2560x1600 monitor. I would even go so far to saying that it is a stupid idea. The USB 3.0 dock would kill your battery life and drive up CPU load. If you want to run two external monitor, get an actual dock like the ultra dock. Your math is really far off.
     
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