T440s up on Lenovo website (IPS Screen, 1080p)

ibmquality, did you ever receive your 5% credit?

 

I have not. I was going to call in. I wish I saved the tracking page which should an estimated delivery date of 12/27 because that is when it came. But I do have the email saying I was going to definitely receive it.

 

I will get mine on Sunday, but I am already scared hearing about screen, fan noise problems
I dont want to return and wait another month to get a new machine

 

I have not heard complaints of fan noise. I do not have any. It ia silent.

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Order finally shipped! Pretty much top spec model - FHD touch, i7 4600u, 12GB RAM, 512GB SSD & 6 cell battery.

Curious reading the shipping label though... it's with Expeditors and lists 8 items (all numerous 440 series models), but my address is the only listed recipient. Maybe Lenovo decided to send me a few extra laptops as console for screwing things up so bad (probably not though)

Edit:

Having never heard of Expeditors before I'm pretty impressed. The tracking is very detailed, they even tell you the exact flight number that the shipment is on! Once it reaches New Zealand I'd assume it's forwarded to a 3rd party for final delivery. Can't wait!

 

did anyone upgraded the HDD? I want to have the 500GB HDD and boot the windows from SSD
any suggestion?

also I can hear the HDD spinning, which is very annoying, anyone else has this issue?

 

If Lenovo has not changed their previous main supplier for hard drives which was HGST, this is a common complaint with these drives, some of them have it, some of them don't, but since they do provide a lot of 7mm and other laptop HDDs, it is quite common.

 

I posted this question on Lenovo's forum but so far no response,

I upgraded my T440s to win 8.1 and now all programs are blured
I followed this link : http://forums.lenovo.com/t5/W-Series-ThinkPad-Laptops/Blurred-display-after-upgrade-to-Windows-8-1/t...
and changed the scale for text from 125% to 100% but it was so difficult to read and see the screen
I can not see anything at scale of 100%
I also updated the graphic drivers but it did not solve the problem

any suggestion?

 

It might sound stupid, but did you log off and log back on after the change? I had the same issue and apparently it takes a logoff for windows to display everything properly in 100% scaling. Try that if you already havent.

 

Yes I did log off, but as I said the 100% is just too small, I have a difficult time reading stuff, the 125% on Win 8 worked pretty good, but if I put it on 125% on Win 8.1 some applications get blurry

 

I plan to purchase a T440s version with the Nvidia 730 GT. Unfortunately you can't buy that version with touch functionality.

Do you think that I could buy the display afterwards (after the purchase) and replace it with a touch panel?
I looked up the service & party section from lenovo .. they only state if you have a problem with your display, contact us.

I plan to do so, because many people say that the bezel loves to seperate from the display (it's only glued). Besides I like the look of the touch panel better, even when I won't use the touch functionality.



What do you think?

 

What country are you in? If USA, you can't buy the Nvidia version at all. If Europe you can get it with both the touchscreen and the Nvidia card.

 

I live in Europe, but I want to purchase it at a student price.

This is the retailer I plan to buy it from.




Kind regards

 

Has anyone gotten the 5% credited back to them yet?

 

My near fully spec'd model arrived! Got who got the AUO Mine is a touch model, maybe that affects what display you get? No bleed and no spotlight, just a great display!

 

I just checked my credit card info, and no I did not.

 

Hey!

I finally got my own T440s, and everything seems to work like a charm... except, I can't seem to get the internal battery to work. It is recognized on Windows 8.1, but seems to have 0% charge. Also trying to hot-swap the external battery powers the laptop off, which isn't actually what I was looking for.

Has anyone else had problems similar to this recently? Do I need to install some specific drivers in order for it to charge?

Thanks!

 

Check the bios to make sure it hasn't been disabled there. I'm not sure of the exact specifics, but I know there is a place in the bios where you can disable the internal battery when you need to repair the laptop.

 

Even if it was disabled in the BIOS for maintenance purposes, it gets automatically re-enabled the moment you plug in the power adapter. Try plugging in the power adapter to see whether it starts charging the internal battery.

 

Nope, it doesn't start charging automatically. And yes, I checked the BIOS settings, it does indeed re-enable the internal battery on the next power-on.
I just removed the external battery and keep it plugged in. Windows shows it as 0% - interesting.

EDIT:
Seems to be a dead internal battery straight out of factory! I will get a replacement one from the warranty service.

EDIT 2:
No, it wasn't the battery, it didn't work after the battery replacement either. The Warranty Service replaced the whole motherboard, and luckily, the internal battery seems to work pretty well now.

However, I can't get my Fn -key to work after the motherboard replacement... I've been reinstalling the crucial drivers, but to no avail..

 

Does some of you play World of Tanks from time to time?

Could someone test World of Tanks 8.11 on his/her T440s with the integrated "Intel HD Graphics 4400" OR "Nvidia 730M"? (T440s with i3 CPUs excluded, ofc)

Could you test if you can play on FHD with LOW details above 60 fps?
Could you test if you can play on MINIMUM resolution and LOW details above 60 fps?


Write down following details:

- Which CPU do you have?
- Do you have the Intel only or Intel + 730M?
- Does it get really hot? (like worried, the CPU will cut off?)
- Average FPS with FHD + LOW details
- Average FPS with minimum HD + LOW details





Thanks

 

No volunteers?

 

Check in the bottom here for the results of T440p 730m. For t440s, drop 5-15% fps I guess.

 

I am still waiting to get to my t440s so I can't test it, but see this youtube video of WoT running on an intel 4200U and HD 4400 laptop
Intel HD 4400 - Gaming - "World of Tanks" Gameplay - YouTube

 

I play D3 just fine @ 1280x720 with some settings set to high, not as nice as I am used to with my desktop but decent enough for a "work" laptop.
Got an i7 with 12gb of ram.

 

Can few of the T440S owners stress test the CPU alone for 5 mins and check what speed the turbo boost settles down to.

 

For general heavier use (not gaming), do you guys think a 4200U and the 4400 is sufficient or is it worth getting a T440p (full voltage CPU) and the 730M? I'm mostly worried about future-proofing.

I'm also worried about single-channel RAM (the only real downside I see to throwing an 8GB stick in there instead of 4GB), mainly for graphics.

 

I would definitly not put a 8GB bar into it, in that case => because dual channel makes machines in general, a lot faster (simply said, its twice as much bandwidth the processor can address and access on your memory at the same time, you want that, and need that these days). 8GB in total is enough in my case, can i ask what you are planning to do with it?

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I got my T440s since friday, and been a happy-kid since then, but i do have a few questions i hope somebody is able to answer:

I've updated my system to Windows 8.1, and ran the Lenovo system update software to get the latest of everything:
What i wonder is, does this system come with Dolby Digital support or Dolby Theater? (this guy says we lost Dolby Theater, after upgrading to Win 8.1 https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/T400-T...e-Dolby-Home-Theater-v4-on-T440s/td-p/1509300 )

Only problem i have with this system is that when i turn on my bluetooth mouse (a HP z5000), the Realtek 2x2 M.2 card i have in my machine is going nuts, and drops the line to my WLAN router eventually.
Are more people experiencing connectivity issues with this Realtek?



-Edit: According to Dolby we should have Dolby Theater on our devices, but have been downgraded to Digital Plus after upgrading to Windows 8.1, am i wrong?
text on page says t440s, watch it: http://www.dolby.com/us/en/consumer/product/pc/laptop/lenovo-thinkpad-t430s.html

 

With respect, the performance gain from dual channel memory is actually too small to notice in most cases (only a few percent), although it still makes sense to use it if possible.

Realtek is poor in general in my experience -- I avoid it whenever possible.

 

But what about the iGPU? I seem to recall something about Intel platforms being able to use part of a RAM module to make some of the RAM dual-channel though, not sure what it's called off-hand. (Ex. 4GB + 8GB = 4GB + 4GB used for dual-channel, plus 4GB for single.)

Seems OK for me, though I've had to turn off power-saving features in Device Manager to get the cards to work with certain APs (otherwise it frequently refuses to load things while claiming it's connected). Xirrus APs, for example.

 

See Crucial FAQ: What is dual-channel memory?
* Maximum gain is 10%. More typical gain is about 5%.
* Benefit is in latency, not bandwidth.
* Only works with pairs of exactly matched modules.
* iGPU isn't a factor.

I would not consider that "OK".

 

How is iGPU not a factor? I've heard of plenty of iGPUs (including the HD4400 in the T440s) being much faster with 2 RAM modules so that at least some dual-channel functionality works. If you're talking about the iGPU affecting the rest of the system, then sure, it's not a factor. And yes, excluding the iGPU, single-channel RAM doesn't make much of a difference.

As for the power savings, yes, I'd like to not need that, but at least it works fine with that changed (though if they can't get it right to begin with, why bother trying?). The issue is rather reproducible though, both on my personal x120e and on the school's x120e, x130e, and x131e carts/labs, both under 7 and 8.x.

 

Do you have any hard data to back that up? How "much faster"?

 

I thought I read that on the T440s, but at any rate, here's some benchmarks with the 4000 and 4400. (Obviously, I excluded AMD iGPUs since those are another thing entirely - though the APUs are known to be even more impacted with slow RAM.)

Integrated GPU: Dual Channel vs Single Channel RAM - PC Message Board for PC - GameFAQs
Benchmark: Single vs Dual Channel Ram with HD4000 Integrated Graphics (T430) - YouTube
Performance and Scaling Overview of Intel HD Graphics 4000 - NotebookCheck.net Reviews

 

In all three cases, 4GB single was compared to 8GB dual, making the results invalid.
To be valid, the same RAM size needs to be compared in single and dual modes;
e.g., 1x4GB vs 2x2GB.
This is why relying on Internet data, even from supposedly reliable sources, is a risky proposition.

 

I measured 10-20% increase in crusader kings ii and diablo III by adding an 8gb stick. Cpu-z shows the memory running in dual channel mode. My fps in ck2 went from 25fps to 30fps which makes it totally playable without jitter (1600*900). I was skeptical at first but found someone who did a detailed analysis in spreadsheets of the increase on his HD 3000. Took the plunge and it paid off. I'll see if I can find it and link it.

Edit:

It was the hd4k here http://www.itsjustwhatever.com/2012...l-memory-for-your-hd4000-integrated-graphics/


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As I've noted previously, changing the size of installed RAM means you cannot draw meaningful conclusions on single versus dual channel operation. To do that, you have to compare the same RAM size.

 

Are you implying that going from 4G RAM to 8G would automagically make your app run faster, even if it's not suffering from low RAM and not doing swapping to begin with? (I can't prove they were not swapping, but I have no reason to believe those benchmarks would full the RAM.)

Edit: Looks like I can, at least for the itsjustwhatever.com article, as optomechanical has pointed out.

Comparing 4G singe vs 8G dual means then can use identical RAM module(s), which is more consistent and eliminates potential differences between 4G and 8G modules. I understand that you prefer 4x1 vs 2*2 because in some real life situations as you might decide on the total RAM size first due to budget, and choose between single and dual later. But as long as the RAM space is enough for the test the comparison is valid.

 

I guess I don't understand your angle... Especially in the context of the t440s which has a soldered 4gb of ram.

If you're saying the measured improvement in gaming can't be attributed to the dual channel ram because the additional 4-8 GB may alleviate paging or something... Okay, although that article I linked to does a pretty thorough analysis to debunk that. Adding ram to this laptop results in a measurable gaming improvement regardless.

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In fact many apps can and do adjust their behavior to the amount of real memory available in order to optimize performance. Likewise the OS. When more real memory is available, for example, data can be preloaded to reduce delay when it's time to actually use it, and results can be cached for possible reuse. Memory fragmentation and garbage collection can also be affected. It's not just a matter of virtual memory swapping. And this isn't speculation -- it's based on a great deal of actual professional experience.

So we can't know for sure whether a change in RAM size is making a difference or not without a controlled experiment. That's a science term of art. It means results can only be valid when one and only one variable is altered. So to get a valid measure of the effect of the amount of installed RAM, we alter only the amount of RAM, not the number of modules. Likewise to measure the effect of single versus dual modules, we alter only the number of modules, not the amount of installed RAM (e.g., 2x2GB vs 1x4GB, or 2x4GB vs 1x8GB). Otherwise the results won't be valid, and we can only speculate.

With respect, that's nonsense. It's a simple matter to experiment (test) with modules that have identical specs regardless of size. Otherwise the results are not valid, as I explain in detail above. And I did not say I preferred "4x1 vs 2*2". In fact I prefer matched pairs of modules on a motherboard with dual channel memory support, even though the performance difference is small.

 

I agree that bigger ram cache can improve performance for loading some stuff, but the focus is iGPU graphics performance here. In a benchmark there's only one scene anyway and everything has to be loaded at once (as long as it can).

I do believe it would be better to see identical RAM size single vs dual as well. Any one has some data of that kind?

 

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Fun Fact: Under Prime95 and Furmark, it goes down to 1 GHz.

 

I loved my T440s. It was great but after 6 months, I regret purchasing it. The only reason I went with Lenovo was because they had a great dock and a top notch keyboard and trackpoint. Unfortunately, the laptop speakers buzz all the time and it is annoying if I hear it.

If I had known about the issue, I would have bought an X240 which has very little problems. I can live with 8GB of RAM and the smaller screen if it means I get some peace. How did Lenovo screw up their top line machine?

Update: I decided to just put duct tape over the speakers. I will probably just unplug them in the future. I wish Lenovo just put sh*tty speakers in that don't buzz rather than this garbage.

Update #2: After a blue screen of death, I had to reinstall windows and I did a completely fresh install. The fingerprint scanner problem is gone and I realize you can now use it to log into secure website. I still hate the speaker.

 

Hey
I think i will switch from my vaio to the T440s for my new job in september (developpement) , i wondering, since 2 M.2 slot are available, is this possible to do a RAID 0 ?
Is the option available in Bios ? Can somes peoples check if its available pls ?

thanks

 

Why do you want to RAID 0 two SSD? That is very risky for not much reward unless you are a video editor.

 

Bahh, i already had two samsung 840 ssd in raid 0 and you can see a difference in speed rather than have only 1 , plus ssd are cheaper and cheaper today, how risky is ?
I work sometimes with big files in the adobe suite (4/5GB+) , lot of multithread (firefox with 45-60 tab + photoshop + breackets etc etc )

Idk i think its a good plan to have the two M2 in raid 0 for 1GB/S speed partition for the OS and a traditional hdd in the 2.5 slot for file saving