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    ThinkPad Edge S430 Lounge

    Discussion in 'Lenovo' started by wild05kid05, Apr 22, 2012.

  1. dp3000

    dp3000 Notebook Evangelist

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    Well I think it's true, Lenovo as of late are putting low end components and charging a premium for them.
     
    dp3000, May 15, 2012
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    not power consumption and TPD's that's what I'm looking for.

    imo for 749$ it's not so bad.
     
    __-_-_-__, May 15, 2012
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  3. Karamazovmm

    Karamazovmm Overthinking? Always!

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    I actually checked notebookcheck, and basically they have nothing anymoe regarding that, not even rough estimates
     
    Karamazovmm, May 15, 2012
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    well the S430 should be much cheaper than the lg xnote p330 right? Also it should be much more available for people not in Korea
     
    slaxys, May 16, 2012
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  5. wild05kid05

    wild05kid05 Cook Free or Die

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    Of course.. Lenovo pricing for the refresh is weird.. A true ThinkPad (T430s, with TB probably no dGPU) costs roughly $100 more than the S430


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    wild05kid05, May 16, 2012
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    crearc Newbie

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    I can't wait for this laptop, such awesome specs for the price.

    Anyway, what is the body like? Is it more plasticy or is it an aluminum. I can't tell. I know it has the rubberized feel on the lid.

    I also hope the i5 comes with the $750 price tag, but I'm giving my hopes up probably.
     
    crearc, May 19, 2012
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  7. moz-art

    moz-art Newbie

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    Hi There,
    Anyone know the release date of ThinkPad s430??


    Thanks.
     
    moz-art, May 21, 2012
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  8. danishh

    danishh Notebook Consultant

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    lenovo says june 2012.

    the rest of the ivy bridge lineup is expected in the second week of june, my guess is that's when we see this.
     
    danishh, May 21, 2012
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    moz-art Newbie

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    So Lenovo is waiting for the Ivy bridge (release) to start selling the new S430?
    - I can't wait any longer I want it now ! LOL :)

    Anyone know the price? and is this model will have an Illuminated Keyboard?


    Thanks Again.
     
    moz-art, May 21, 2012
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  10. y2bd

    y2bd Notebook Geek

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    They've been saying $749 as the base price. That's probably an i3, and no dedicated graphics based on what info we've been given so far.
     
    y2bd, May 21, 2012
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  11. EnriqueM

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    Several reviews have said already that it will have dedicated graphics, check up on youtube or google it...

    749 and it will have a light to light the keyboard but no backlit
     
    EnriqueM, May 21, 2012
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  12. y2bd

    y2bd Notebook Geek

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    AFAIK, they've all been saying that there will be a dedi graphics option which to me means that you have to pay more in order to get it. The $749 base therefore wouldn't include the dedi graphics, no?
     
    y2bd, May 21, 2012
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  13. pepper_john

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    yes, the more advanced features, the more cost it will be.
     
    pepper_john, May 21, 2012
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  14. moz-art

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    Alright thanks to all of your guys.
    I guess I will have to wait more time.... I hope it get release on the first week of June...
    :GEEK:
     
    moz-art, May 22, 2012
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  15. Sensenmännchen

    Sensenmännchen Notebook Enthusiast

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    2 Models of the Lenovo S430 listed at the first Online Shop in Germany, starting from 880€ (prices changed). Deliverable in arround ~1Week. Hope it's gonna get cheaper :( .

    Geizhals.at

    The more expensive Model is actually the one without discrete graphics but with a better CPU and UMTS/HSDPA.
    • Core i7-3520M 2x 2.90GHz
    • 8192MB (2x 4096MB) ...
     
    Sensenmännchen, May 24, 2012
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  16. y2bd

    y2bd Notebook Geek

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    Hmm, that's somewhat disappointing. Hopefully there will be a graphics card in the more expensive version, a Kepler one too.

    And I always thought the low voltage i7 Ivy was a quad core. Or is this not it?
     
    y2bd, May 24, 2012
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  17. Karamazovmm

    Karamazovmm Overthinking? Always!

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    There are 4 TDP limits

    17w, 35w, 45w, 55w

    there are i7 models in all those TDP limits

    17w and 35w use dual core i7 and there is 1 quad in the 35w

    35w - 3612qm, 3520m, the first is a quad, and the latter a dual.

    17w - the i7 3667u is the dual core 17w tdp

    55w - the i7 3920xm is the quad core 55w tdp

    45w - are only quads and all are i7
     
    Karamazovmm, May 24, 2012
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  18. Sensenmännchen

    Sensenmännchen Notebook Enthusiast

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    Take a good look.
    Some CPUs are configurable (the ones with cTDP up/down).

    @Topic
    The two Models:
    Lenovo ThinkPad Edge S430 (N3B3EGE), 879 €:

    • Core i5-3210M 2x 2.50GHz
    • 4096MB
    • 500GB
    • DVD+/-RW DL
    • NVIDIA GeForce GT 630M 2048MB
    • 2x USB 3.0/Gb LAN/WLAN 802.11bgn/Thunderbolt
    • HDMI
    • Card Reader
    • Multi-Touch Trackpad
    • FingerPrint Reader
    • Webcam
    • 14" WXGA++ non-glare LED TFT (1600x900)
    • Windows 7 Home Premium (64-bit)
    • Li-ion battery
    • 1.80kg
    • 12 months warranty

    Lenovo ThinkPad Edge S430 (N3B3DGE), 1119 €:

    • Core i7-3520M 2x 2.90GHz
    • 8192MB (2x 4096MB)
    • 500GB
    • DVD+/-RW DL
    • Intel HD Graphics 4000 (IGP) shared memory
    • 2x USB 3.0/Gb LAN/WLAN 802.11bgn/Thunderbolt
    • HDMI
    • UMTS/HSDPA
    • Card Reader
    • Multi-Touch Trackpad
    • FingerPrint Reader
    • Webcam
    • 14" WXGA++ non-glare LED TFT (1600x900)
    • Windows 7 Professional (64-bit)
    • Li-ion battery
    • 1.80kg
    • 12 months warranty
     
    Sensenmännchen, May 24, 2012
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  19. i_have_a_bike

    i_have_a_bike Notebook Consultant

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    is it just me, or is that quite expensive considering those specs? even discounting for the higher prices we generally face here in euroland...

    ive never seen an thinkad in real life though, is it because of the build quality?

    maybe someone could enlighten me?
     
    i_have_a_bike, May 24, 2012
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  20. Sensenmännchen

    Sensenmännchen Notebook Enthusiast

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    Thinkpad are professional products they are often used by people who are working a lot with it. Traditional qualitys in Thinkpads are, good keyboards, long battery life, non-glare displays, high material standards.

    Yes it is expensive for its specs but especially this laptop has a Thunderbolt port which is hopefully soon, easily to be used in combination with an eGPU.
    I don't promise anything, this product has not been tested yet, there is no experience report yet, which is definitely going to change soon.
     
    Sensenmännchen, May 24, 2012
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  21. Oats04

    Oats04 Notebook Consultant

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    THe S430 isnt a T series though, its an edge. Does the s430 still have military specs and spillproof keyboard?
     
    Oats04, May 24, 2012
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  22. wild05kid05

    wild05kid05 Cook Free or Die

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    Since when ThinkPads are considered having military specs lol.


    Sent from my wholly molly new iPad using Tapatalk
     
    wild05kid05, May 24, 2012
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  23. dp3000

    dp3000 Notebook Evangelist

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    dp3000, May 24, 2012
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  24. Oats04

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    Oats04, May 24, 2012
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  25. Sensenmännchen

    Sensenmännchen Notebook Enthusiast

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    Did I mention one of these "equipments" in my whole post? :confused:
     
    Sensenmännchen, May 24, 2012
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  26. Pseudorandom

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    All Thinkpads have spill resistant keyboards. idk about the S430, but its predecessor the E420s is mil std
     
    Pseudorandom, May 24, 2012
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  27. i_have_a_bike

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    ah well thats good to know. esecially after my last laptop, build quality will be one of the most important aspects for me.

    still a toss up between this and the 11 inch sager np6110.

    i wonder how feasable an egpu is going to really be...
     
    i_have_a_bike, May 25, 2012
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  28. Oats04

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    Oats04, May 28, 2012
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  29. y2bd

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    I'm still hoping that we get a Kepler option or something of the like.

    Then again, seeing as I'll be coming from a 310m, I guess even a 630m will be a massive improvement, ahaha.
     
    y2bd, May 29, 2012
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  30. AlbertoCsm

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    AlbertoCsm, May 29, 2012
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  31. dp3000

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    It's the battery savings I'm particularly looking at.
     
    dp3000, May 29, 2012
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  32. Mech0z

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    Is this the same chicklet keyboard they use on the upcoming T/W 530?
     
    Mech0z, May 29, 2012
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  33. ibmthink

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    No. It is different. Not the same keys, glossy surface between the keys, not so got, not spill resistant, cheaper constrution etc.
     
    ibmthink, May 29, 2012
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  34. Karamazovmm

    Karamazovmm Overthinking? Always!

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    according to the specs its a spill resistant kb, didnt try to compare the layout since the s430 pics that we have is from a sample and not finalized. But I would venture to say that it might be the same.
     
    Karamazovmm, May 29, 2012
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  35. abba4u

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    About S430....

    I thought I finally found my new laptop...

    When everything became perfect in specs.... they kept the heat vent on the right side... Get ready to experience the heat for FPS games...

    Hopefully the heat will be less... Fingers crossed
     
    abba4u, May 29, 2012
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  36. K0WAWA!

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    ...unless you're a lefty LOL
     
    K0WAWA!, May 30, 2012
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    I realize that not everyone in this forum lives in North America (I'm in the U.S.) but being an English language forum a good deal do. So I hate to pop a bunch of people's bubble but I found out yesterday the S430 will not be making an appearance in this part of the world. This information comes directly from a PR person at Lenovo who is in charge of drumming up excitement and communicating product releases in North America. Basically they said the North American sales team looked at the product portfolio for the second half of 2012 and couldn't see a fit for the S430, there's already a bunch of other 14-inchers coming. I'd argue it was unique enough to be compelling to a lot of buyers, but that would have depended a lot on price, if over $1,000 I'd agree it could flop here.

    Anyway, Europeans are confirmed to get this and I assume Asia as they essentially get everything Lenovo has. Not sure on other regions, I guess you'll just have to check with retailers and see if it's showing up.
     
    Andrew Baxter, May 30, 2012
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  38. EfficientN

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    O say it an't so. Time to start looking around again.
     
    EfficientN, May 30, 2012
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  39. dp3000

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    For once Europeans weren't left out
     
    dp3000, May 30, 2012
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    Obviously this is disappointing. But if this is true, what would be the best alternative? The E430?
     
    niner4nine, May 30, 2012
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  41. EfficientN

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    No Thunderbolt. The T430s, for hundreds more maybe.
     
    EfficientN, May 30, 2012
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  42. Oats04

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    i dont understand what the problem is, i live in the states, can't i jsut order it from lenovo europe?
     
    Oats04, May 30, 2012
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  43. Karamazovmm

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    this is much like the e320 and the e420s that the former didnt even appear and the latter didnt come with the 6630m that it had in most of the world.

    My main issue with this lack of strategy is that here in brazil we wont see the light of the day of any model that doesnt appear in the north american market, much like I didnt see anything from there.

    Lenovo is missing a great opportunity here, dell has dominated the notebook market here. And lenovo barely offers their Z line. We dont buy desktops here we buy notebooks.


    no you cant. You can try importing from a third party vendor. however I dont know how warranty goes with the edge line.
     
    Karamazovmm, May 30, 2012
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    Well first you have to find someone that'll ship and incur that cost. Then you have to get over the sticker shock Europeans pay on electronics compared to here in the U.S.

    Unless of course the Euro zone collapses along with the currency, then you might find some good deals based on currency exchange rates and we can all take our European vacations.

    Interesting, I didn't know Dell was so popular in Brazil.

    Another tidbit I found yesterday is that The Edge E530 does come with an HD+ 1600 x 900 screen option in Europe, but not the U.S., it's just 1366 x 768 which is a joke on a 15.6" screen laptop.

    [Shakes fist at sales people that decide these things]
     
    Andrew Baxter, May 30, 2012
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  45. y2bd

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    Ahaha, wonder what that says of their opinion on the average American consumer.
     
    y2bd, May 30, 2012
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  46. Oats04

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    so if this s430 is something along the lines of 800 euros, how much would u think i would actually be paying for it if I want it in the U.S. including shipping and everything
     
    Oats04, May 30, 2012
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    Sad... That link almost killed me!!! I hate lenovo for this. Dont know why sales team has this stupid notion of avoiding north america. The same happened whin I wanted to buy Dell inspiron 13.3 a year back. Stupid sales team...I think now I've to start my hunt again... May be I'll buy a hp sleekbook with amd 2gb graphics memory... First let them roll out the ivy bridge models.
     
    abba4u, May 30, 2012
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  48. abba4u

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    Or I can go with T series...But definitely its gonna be damn costly. And the worst part... they haven't updated their itchy touchpad with a smoother one.
     
    abba4u, May 30, 2012
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  49. Karamazovmm

    Karamazovmm Overthinking? Always!

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    they are popular because they only charge us 33% more for the base models compared to the US prices, if you go higher (lattitude, precision, xps)the price goes to 100% or more.

    What I was trying to find out is if I buy this s430 when I go to europe in september, if I would have some form of warranty coverage like I did when I bought my thinkpad in NY. However the lenovo site is a mess and it redirects me to the US warranty pages not mine. terrible.

    For example the e420 is being sold for R$ 2k, which means Im paying U$ 1k for a laptop that is being sold for U$500, terrible pricing scheme, while I could buy a vostro 14'' model for R$ 1300 or less, which I just did for my father, payed R$1k for it which equals to U$ 500, and I would have to have grabbed the R$2.2k e420 to match the specs
     
    Karamazovmm, May 30, 2012
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  50. danishh

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    serious bummer. Time to start looking at alternatives, though i may just say screw graphics and pick up an x230.
     
    danishh, May 30, 2012
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