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    ThinkPad X1 Carbon (3rd Gen.) Broadwell

    Discussion in 'Lenovo' started by Bloody Nokia Adept, Oct 17, 2014.

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    I've never ventured into linux.. tempting..
     
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    Excellent choice. I will be doing the same thing with my X1.

    Installed Arch exactly once - 5 years ago on my X201s (posting this from it now), and have never looked back.
     
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    All setup! ArchLinux is working beautifully.

    Chrome looks like crap on the WQHD display, some of the F* keys aren't working, and the 3 click buttons aren't working either. I could probably get the 3 buttons working with some simple Xorg changes...
     
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    Oh boy, I returned my newly ordered x1 and then reordered to a new coupon SAV10THINKPAD !!! *ends today*

    I'll end up getting mine later but I am so glad they fixed the keyboard, the 2014 version was such a pain.
     
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    Wow everyone is getting there's. Mine only just left KY.
     
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    Anyone know why the max resolution on HDMI to external monitor (Dell 2713HM) is only 1920x1080 and not 2560x1440 (using extended display with X1 display set to 2560x1440)???
     
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    How did you return the X1 without being charged a restocking fee? If you look at the boards here, most people get dinged a 15% restocking fee so not sure how'd you be saving money when the coupon is only good for 10%
     
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    As long as I do not open box and send directly back I was promised no restocking fee. Not sure if that was a special case but I saved my chat with lenovo customer service!
     
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    Here is what I see as hard drive options...

    128GB Solid State Drive, Serial ATA
    180 GB Solid State Drive Opal 2.0 - Capable[add $100.00]
    256 GB Solid State Drive Opal 2.0 - Capable[add $150.00]
    240 GB Solid State Drive Opal 2.0 - Capable[add $200.00]
    512 GB Solid State Drive PCIe[add $700.00]

    Why would 240 GB be $50 more than 256GB?
     
  10. j3ff

    j3ff Notebook Enthusiast

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    Love this thing.

    Bummed that there's a 10% off out there i didn't know about.. where is that posted?

    screen is so high res it's crazy! Keyboard is awesomeeeee!!

    i5 is plenty fast.. touchpad great, trackpoint finally back to it's former glory!! Hopefully this laptop will last me 4 or 5 years!
     
  11. mightaswell

    mightaswell Notebook Geek

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    The coupon code posted didn't work for me on the new X1 Carbon, would have pulled the trigger if it did. I'll wait a little longer until there is a decent coupon available.
     
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    I'm in the same boat as you. I was going hoping to use the coupon tonight but now I'm also probably just going to wait for some extra "motivation" to make me want to go for it. Hope someone posts a coupon code as soon as they discover one available (that still works).
     
  13. j3ff

    j3ff Notebook Enthusiast

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    Just fyi - the middle trackpoint button isn't working for me either.. as a scrolling button in chrome using W7.

    When I try to change the mouse settings it says it can't connect to the device.. sigh.

    2 finger/3finger scrolling also doesn't work...even after downloading the specific driver on lenovo's site and restarting...

    I might have to throw w10 on here tomorrow as I can't deal with w8/8.1
     
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    davidacoder Newbie

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    I just (5 secs ago) ordered a new X1 with the coupon and got 10% off. US store.
     
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    mightaswell Notebook Geek

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    I was trying earlier from the Barnes And Noble site, I just tried from the regular site and it worked.

    Just added a X1 to my Thinkpad stable that did include a T60 and a T530.

    Will try to await its arrival patiently.
     
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    1/21/2015 - Update on battery life

    Charged it fully last night, took it to the office at 3pm and have been using it for 4.5 hours so far. Brightness at 90%, max CPU at 50%, wifi on and in heavy use all day because it was syncing my Dropbox account, I have 19% battery life left with an estimated 1hr 16 mins. Picasa has been indexing photos which is relatively CPU intensive as well. Looks like 5+ hours is easily achievable, 6+ seems very possible.

    Spec is i7, 512, 2560x no touchscreen

    Still loving this machine, no complaints. Screen is great, great viewing angles as expected from an IPS screen. I missed you so much Trackpoint!!

    Also, really pleasantly surprised by the total lack of bloatware. Essential Lenovo stuff pre-installed, Norton (which was easy to uninstall), Office, that's about it.

    mike chow reports
     
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    j3ff Notebook Enthusiast

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    everyone with the qhd screen--- what font size/scaling are you using?
     
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    Still figuring that out
     
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    j3ff Notebook Enthusiast

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    Sounds silly but I like 1920x1080, font set at 100%..
     
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    Because the 240GB SSD is an Intel SSD.
     
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    Alright, finally getting mine today. Its on the truck for delivery! Pretty excited to play with it tonight
     
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    Thanks for the update, that's exactly what I wanted to know; that, and the 10% coupon got met to pull the trigger.





    On the borrowed Gen 2 I was using, I had it set to full resolution, text set to 175%. That worked great for me. On a couple of old programs I use I had to go into settings and uncheck "disable scaling on high resolution screens", otherwise is was blurry. Besides that, I have yet to have any scaling issues--using W8.1. The screen quality itself was great: no dead pixels, no visible image retention and practically no backlight bleed. This was on a machine with a December build date, so I'm hoping that the new Gen 3 use this same panel. It's by far the best panel I've ever seen in a Thinkpad--or any laptop for that matter.

    If you're ordering one of these I think you'd be crazy not to go for the WQHD screen.
     
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    Bummer, sorry it didn't work but it was valid until yesterday. I found it on the retailmenot coupon site.
     
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    I have the hires display on my T540p and set it to 1600x900 at 100% and I think it looks perfect. Anyone willing to try 1600x900 to see how it looks on the X1C? I'm hoping that, even though the screen is smaller, it still looks good at that resolution.
     
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    According to the online OVP, my ship date was pushed back a week today. Now showing:

    Estimated
    Ship Date
    2015/02/01

    Estimated
    Delivery Date
    2015/02/08

    Hopefully it wont be obsolete by the time I get it. :mad:
     
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    THANK YOU! If it wasn't for your crazy guts I'd be sitting with a bricked machine now! REALLY THANKS!
     
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    leindurstit Notebook Guru

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    Received mine yesterday. Promptly took a backup of the Windows 8.1 load and blew it all away for 7. Only weird issues I had with the trackpoint--besides the left and right buttons being hinged the other way now--is that the trackpoint felt like it was difficult to move to the right of the screen, but extremely sensitive when moving to the left. This resolved itself, however, when I pulled the nub out and reseated it.

    The trackpoint buttons themselves have a very satisfying action to them: better than the original X1 Carbon (with the xx30-style buttons,) and probably as good as the X220 that I've been using up until now--time will tell. They're certainly better than any other trackpoint button I've tried that is hinged this way (I'm looking at you, HP) mostly because they kept the general shapes of the buttons correct: big left and right, small middle.

    They keyboard keys are very great. The layout, obviously, not so much, compared to a classic 7-row. But at this point, we've lost that battle. At least it doesn't have any stupid touch-strip gimmicks. The need to keep Fn-lock on all the time to use my F-keys proper feels annoying--the fact that the laptop function-key (brightness, volume, etc.) is printed larger than the F# key lets you know who they're marketing to. But at least there are still spaces between groups of F# keys, versus the not-so-spaced-out xx30 keyboards (X230, etc.)

    Other typical annoyances I've had with late-model ThinkPads, such as fan whine, seem to be gone. The fan only produces a fwoosh, not a whine. Hard to explain, but I really, really hate high-pitched whiny fans. Apple machines have never had this problem, but Lenovo machines circa 2011-2014 all seemed to exhibit this. Finally the horrible trend has been stayed.

    Performance seems to be good for a machine this size (thickness, that is.) I opted for the i7 (and managed to get the 8GB RAM upgrade for free--normally $100--by phone-ordering when the online pricing was broken when the machine first went up; the i7 option bumped the price by around $550, which was wrong from the $270 it said listed, plus $100 for the RAM.) I would have preferred the GT3 graphics (HD 6000) obviously, as this HD 5500 seems to perform at best almost to the point of HD 5000 compared to the i7 4650 model of last year, and the MacBook Airs. Sure, you can argue that with a 15 watt TDP design, you never actually get the full benefit of 48-core HD 6000 versus 24-core HD 5500, but benchmarks will probably show soon enough. And of course, being limited to 8GB of RAM is obnoxious, given that Apple was offering the MacBook Pro in 2012 with 16GB soldered-on.

    Other issues of note: backlight bleed on the WQHD non-touch panel, but I've grown used to it from other machines so at this point it doesn't kill it for me. It does not seem to exhibit the horrible LG symptoms seen in the FHD IPS panel in the T440s (versus the panel lottery players from AUO or Samsung, or only one of the two--forgot which.) Mine, also, appears to be plenty bright. I don't think I will ever use it at maximum brightness--one or two notches from max is already blinding for me. Also, as Windows 7's DPI scaling stuff is generally suck, I'm running it at 1600x900, which is producing very good-looking results, so long as I don't stare at the screen from 6 inches away...

    Finally, it is annoying that the machine cannot be powered on with Fingerprint, but I guess this is something that they lost when they switched fingerprint reader providers a few years back. At least you can swipe once to unlock your hard drive password, and then have it authenticate through to Windows.
     
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    would you mind verifying which panel you have for a screen? if you have AUO that would make sense..
     
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    The part number is lp140qh1-spb1, which seems to turn up as LG.

    I had previously seen two T440s models side-by-side with the different panels, and the off-angle darkness on the LG was very, very obvious. If there is any fault to this new LG panel, it may just not be as obviously flawed.
     
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    Any comments on battery life? Is it getting anywhere near the advertised number?
     
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    Interesting, it's no longer on sale through the Corporate Perks / EPP site, full price now. I bought it for $2073 and now it's $2,318 for the same config.

    Also, the 240gb SSD option isn't listed anymore.
     
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    wildbat.PNG

    No, not yet. :)

    Of course, haven't used it on battery very much yet. I'll report after a bit.
     
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    Update on connecting to external monitor: I'm currently using a Dell U2713H monitor (2560x1440p ideal resolution). When connecting with HDMI it will only display up to 1080p, but with a miniDP-DisplayPort cable it will run both the laptop display (2560x1440p, with 150% text size is perfect) and the external monitor (2560x1440p), both of which run very well at 60Hz.

    Does anyone have experience with the OneLink Pro dock? Would consider getting it if it works with this setup...

    Initially the external display would flicker a black screen or give a no-input effect for about 1 second every 2-3 minutes, but after right clicking on the desktop and going to Graphic Properties, and changing the external display from 59Hz to 60Hz, everything works flawlessly. I'm currently working on a large PDF, even larger Word file, and have multiple Google Chrome tabs open with minimal lag (no mouse lag, some slowness within MWord compared to my desktop. This laptop far exceeds my expectations. BTW this is using the i7-5600 CPU, 8GB RAM, SATAIII SSD (can't wait to upgrade to PCIe!).

    Battery life varies so much with use: expect about 4 hours of working use (streaming content, working with large files). I got just over 6 hours of moderate use (MWord, PDF, email, internet browsing) without throttling the CPU and still had 16% left.

    Also to some of you wondering about the coupons. I was able to order through a lenovo rep (via their website) and got an additional discount (random $100 off coupon via email wasn't working so they applied it for me) on top of the initial $60 off sale + 5% student discount (came to $260 off the list price so it's worth the effort IMO).
     
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    Has anyone here updated Lenovo Settings App? I updated it and now when I open it it says Installing updates please wait, but it never finishes
     
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    BinkNR Knock off all that evil

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    I loathe most Lenovo “apps” and related. They’re valuable—for example, the On Screen Display for brightness and volume and the Power Manager for the lower level details of my battery—but almost all of them can be poorly written, bloated and/or unnecessary (most of Windows’ built in programs perform similar functions). Unless you really need the “Lenovo Settings App,” be happy and uninstall it (happiness is a clean install).
     
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    Lenovo did not make it easy to uninstall Pokki App Store. Pokki is not listed in the Add Remove Program. The uninstaller is located at ~/appdata/local/pokki, if I remember correctly.
     
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    Opinions on the touch vs non-touch WQHD screen?

    Looks like the touch negatively impacts weight and brightness (and price obviously) to varying extents; how noticeable is that? What about the screen glare? Is touch worth it nonetheless?

    Bonus question: how well is the touch screen supported on Ubuntu 14.04?

    Thanks a lot!
     
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    I just received my 2015 X1 w/ MT QHD screen and i7. Really disappointed with Lenovo quality lately. Warped chassis (wobbles on a flat surface) and significant light bleeding clumps along bottom edge.
     
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    Man these contradicting reviews is making it hard for me to decide whether or not to pull the trigger.
     
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    I'm sending my back because the screen (QHD, Non-touch LG) really just isnt bright enough..
     
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    Does anybody have a Samsung XP941 PCIe SSD available to test in this machine to see if it is bootable? I'm torn between jumping on one of those and waiting for the SM951. The SM951 currently shipping in the X1 Carbon appears to be the AHCI "000L1" model, which was the only way the XP941 shipped as (no NVMe.) $700 was just too much of a jump for the 512GB SM951 version from the factory, as I will never use that much space, so ~$250 for a 256GB XP941 is appealing.
     
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    My ship date just got pushed back 5 days...
     
  43. karee

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    Yeah mine was pushed back 7 days last week. Showing a ship date of 2/1 and an arrival date of 2/8.
     
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    Fellow X1 Aficionados - great thread to read, thanks for adding observations and opinions. This will be a place I camp out at once my machine gets here.

    I placed my order on January 22nd. Lenovo expects to ship on February 9th with anticipated delivery on the 16th. If your collective experiences are an indicator, it will be more towards the end of February.

    I went all out on the order directly through Lenovo and their configurator; i7-5600U, 8GB memory, 512GB SSD PCIe, WQHD display, and Sierra EM7345 WWAN. I did add some software and warranty coverage. Out the door was $4K and not too different for my i5 Toughbook CF-31.

    Stay tuned for any oddities I might find once it gets here.
     
  45. mightaswell

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    I ordered on Jan. 21 with an original expected ship date of Jan 29 and deliver date of Feb 6. Today they updated it to be expected to ship on Feb 5 and deliver on Feb 12. I ordered I7, 8GB, 512 SSD, and WQHD. I will continue to try to wait patiently.
     
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    No such thing when waiting for a new Thinkpad, it's almost unbearable even though a month ago it wasn't even on my mind. :)
     
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    I almost got the WWAN Card, but I have one in my T540P that I'll just move over when the X1 arrives. Love the ability to connect anywhere, really comes in handy. I can connect to the hotspot on my phone, but that's always so hit and miss and Windows 8 makes WWAN connection simple.
     
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    I got another email saying it's delayed even further (possibly 30 days). Although when I check the status on OVP it only shows a delay of 1 day. I'm considering canceling the order. Maybe wait until summer when a.) they figure out their manufacturing process and b.) the price will come down.
     
  49. karee

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    I cancelled the order. All of these delays give me concern that this product is not ready for public use.
     
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    Received my x1 today and a bit dissapointed that it did not come with the Samsung SM951 SSD that Think Scopes review stated. I do love everything else and the hardware buttons are a huge difference in usability.

    I had the exact same configuration but mine is a Toshiba thnSFJ256GDNU model
    Given that this is a m2 pciE I am not maximizing my potential.

    FYI I was not given an option to select pciE drive 256gb when configuring my computer.
     
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