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    ThinkPad X1

    Discussion in 'Lenovo' started by jumpycalm, Apr 14, 2011.

  1. coldmack

    coldmack Notebook Virtuoso

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    Smaller as in footprint or thin?
     
  2. Thors.Hammer

    Thors.Hammer Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hopefully both.
     
  3. lead_org

    lead_org Purveyor of Truth

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    both according to the person in the know. Maybe it will be the Thinkpad Ultrabook.
     
  4. unreal25

    unreal25 Capt. Obvious

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    That will be interesting, unless they cut the corners on cooling, build quality etc. The current sizes/thicknesses are fine for me, but weight reduction would be nice tho. :)
     
  5. vinuneuro

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    Footprint reduction and HD+ would make the X1 great.
     
  6. Bronsky

    Bronsky Wait and Hope.

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  7. Pseudorandom

    Pseudorandom Notebook Evangelist

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    I hope not, unless they have some breakthrough has happened in case design that will allow for good heat management, durability, etc. while being ridiculously thin.
     
  8. lead_org

    lead_org Purveyor of Truth

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    well lets see how the U300s is, and that would give an idea about what sort of system the Thinkpad ultrabook would be in terms of performance and heat management.
     
  9. Thors.Hammer

    Thors.Hammer Notebook Enthusiast

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    Oh come on Lead, we know you know. You've already leaked information on the X2. Spill the full beans man! :D
     
  10. lead_org

    lead_org Purveyor of Truth

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    I have pretty much told you everything that i know. The next iteration will be lighter, smaller, and have a higher longer battery, i am not sure whether that is going to be the new Thinkpad Ultrabook, or one of the many Thinkpad Ultrabooks that is coming on line. Since during the event they were talking about Lenovo is going to rock the boats of the PC industry, etc.
     
  11. Thors.Hammer

    Thors.Hammer Notebook Enthusiast

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    So the ThinkPad line will have " many" Ultrabooks(tm) ? That's more information. :D

    Good to hear Intel's investment is paying off. If Lenovo produces many high quality ThinkPad Ultrabooks, that might just put a dent in Apple's business.
     
  12. lead_org

    lead_org Purveyor of Truth

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    Well the many Ultrabooks is my guess, because i heard that Lenovo is releasing a Thinkpad Ultrabook soon, and i know that the X2 won't be coming till next year with the 18 months release cycle. So if you add these two information together....

    Also, given that the ideapad have U300, U300s, U400, i would think that the Think Brand Product division is not going to let the Idea Brand Product division steal its thunder (no pun intended Thors.Hammer). For one IdeaPad U260, and Thinkpad division popped out the E220s and ThinkPad X1.
     
  13. Pseudorandom

    Pseudorandom Notebook Evangelist

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    I can see the X2 and the E230s if the next gen replacements of the X1 and E220s are indeed called that. Maybe the return of the X2##s line as well. So 2 if not 3 Thinkpad "ultrabooks" are possibly in the future.
     
  14. Bronsky

    Bronsky Wait and Hope.

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    Thinkpad X2, Ivybridge I5-540M, 1600 x 900 350 nits display (I guess I'll have to get a glare reducing SP), 256 GB SSD, 2 Ram slots for 8 GB min, and 8 hour battery life and I may be a Lenovo owner. ;) Till then, my Acer is working perfectly.
     
  15. marccroes

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    Do you think it's a good idea to put the RUNCORE T50 6Gb/s 120GB MSATA ssd in my thinkpad X1, is it even possible to put a 120gb Msata ssd in the X1, or does it have to be a 80gb. What do you guy's think about the Runcore T50 6Gb/s 120GB msata?
     
  16. Yurochka

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    hi, what can you say about a case material (palm rest)? Any scratches, attritions?
     
  17. lead_org

    lead_org Purveyor of Truth

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    The external case material of the X1 is magnesium alloy with a rubberised coating. The palmrest should be ABS/PC plastic with rubberised coating.

    Scratches would depend on what sort of materials you are rubbing against the rubbersied surfaces.
     
  18. k2001

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    The only beef I have with Thinkpad is not having a decent screen on 12-14" laptop (IPS on the x220 resolution for my general use).

    Let hope for 1600*900 IPS screen (or a very good TN screen i.e. MBA quality) on the X2.
     
  19. Bronsky

    Bronsky Wait and Hope.

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    It looks like Asus is putting a 13.3", 400 nits, 45% color gamut, 1600 x 900 display in its UX-31 ultrabook. http://forum.notebookreview.com/asus/582672-asus-ux31-ultrabook-7.html This will give Lenovo sonething to shoot for. The UX-31 is probably my wife's next notebook, as she has completely outgrown her Ideapad S12 Ion/Atom netbook.

    Next year, when I replace my Acer 3820TG, I will be looking hard at the X2. Hopefully, it will also accommodate an EGPU solution.
     
  20. Thors.Hammer

    Thors.Hammer Notebook Enthusiast

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    I think 1600x400 is in error. Least I hope so. :eek:
     
  21. Bronsky

    Bronsky Wait and Hope.

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    You guys are a tough bunch to please. :D Yes, it's 1600 x 900. I fixed the original.
     
  22. Yurochka

    Yurochka Newbie

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    I mean problems of the everyday using (hands only) for 3month or more
     
  23. coldmack

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    Everything on that sounds very nice, but if the color gamut is anything like the MBA, it may not be for me(been spoiled by the higher gamut on my TT). Maybe Lenovo will realize that and for the X2 and along with the higher res screen, they will also give it a higher color gamut that is in 65%+ range, along with a matte display option.
     
  24. k2001

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    Glad to see that the PC industry is moving forward and not moving backward in term of resolution.
     
  25. lead_org

    lead_org Purveyor of Truth

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    if it is a ultrabook format then i don't think the expresscard will be available.
     
  26. Bronsky

    Bronsky Wait and Hope.

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    Well, we can hope. :cool:
     
  27. netinbd

    netinbd Notebook Consultant

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    lead_org Purveyor of Truth

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    X1 uses a TN LCD.
     
  29. sjefferson

    sjefferson Notebook Consultant

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    hi guys
    my X1 came with 90W adapter. i'm thinking that's cuz of the rapid charge or whatever they call it - quick charge of the battery.

    i have 65W adapters from my other thinkpads and i was wondering if i could use those 65W adapters instead on X1. i know i might be losing rapid charge, which is fine. but am i giving up anything else? i'm mainly concerned about hardware damage or my X1 becoming a fire liability :)

    thanks!
     
  30. MidnightSun

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    Using an adapter that does not provide sufficient wattage may cause throttling and decreased performance, but it will not be a safety hazard--there are built-in safety mechanisms to prevent any such problems. Best way is just to try it out and see; I don't think you should have any issues using the 65W adapter.
     
  31. lead_org

    lead_org Purveyor of Truth

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    you can use the 65 watt adapter if you want to.
     
  32. sjefferson

    sjefferson Notebook Consultant

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    here's what i learned from using 65W adapter on X1.

    it works. but the adpter gets dangerously hot when I grabbed to feel it. I think that's because when I plugged in my X1, the battery was at ~45% and once it's plugged in, it does that "rapid charge" thing whether with 65W or 90W adapter. due to having the weak caacity of battery, i will frequently use it that way so i guess i'm giving up the use of 65W battery on my X1...

    also i realized that i cn use 90W adpter on my X220 and other thinkpads so it doesn't really matter. i just wanted to keep one adpter plugged under my main desk...
     
  33. lead_org

    lead_org Purveyor of Truth

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    okay.... i guess when i use the 65 watt adapter the battery was not charging at all, otherwise i would probably also picked up on the adapter overheating aspect.

    Good find.
     
  34. mmmangoes

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    I hope Lenovo designers are looking at the Asus UX31 rollout. It looks like Asus has done a lot of things right. Add to the successful elements of the UX31, the features of the U300 and the next X1 could wind up being a great device.
     
  36. prowisar

    prowisar Newbie

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    hi all ) i from Russia sorry my english not good ) i buy lenovo x1 (1286cto) but change hdd and lost recovery partitition from old :( can sombody help and give me iso recovery for x1 plz ) thks....
     
  37. lead_org

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    UX31 looks okay, they followed the Intel Ultrabook spec pretty closely.
     
  38. psychopomp1

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    Hi
    Can someone confirm that the X1 uses an IPS display (shown as Premium HD on Lenovo website)? If not, the X220 also has an upgrade to Premium HD screen and this is known as IPS right?

    Also is the hard disk on the X1 easily upgradeable to a SSD (eg to a 7mm samsung 830 ssd)?
    Cheers
     
  39. Thors.Hammer

    Thors.Hammer Notebook Enthusiast

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    The screen is not IPS. The drive bay is 7mm.
     
  40. fraushai

    fraushai Notebook Evangelist

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    The X1 does not have an IPS. It has a low res 1366x768 super glossy display.

    The hard disk is 7mm and upgradeable.

    The battery is in built and cannot be removed easily.
     
  41. Mad*Max

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    you have to write your specs for someone to upload their partition if the specs coincide
     
  42. nastyshasty

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    I just recieved a new one from my work, love almost everything about it, especially typing on it (don't think I would go back now :) ).

    The only thing is there's a screen door appearance to the display and it's driving me nuts! To make it worse, I've showed it to some coworkers who then tell me I'm imagining it.

    Is this a issue with anybody else? Anything I can do about it, it's brand new and I imagine it's still under warranty.
     
  43. lead_org

    lead_org Purveyor of Truth

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    yeap this is an issue that i am also having. This is the problem with the panel that Lenovo used in the X1.
     
  44. nastyshasty

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    Thanks, good to know I wasn't crazy.

    I really like the form factor, tactile feel of the x1 but the display and battery life just not up to par.

    If it were my money, I dioubt I'd keep it.
    But it's not, so I will :eek:
     
  45. lead_org

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    The X1 is a really good machine, however the low resolution LCD, battery life and the single dimm slot is somewhat a problem.

    Although i would imagine that Lenovo would probably make the X2 a lot better machine in terms of battery life and screen.
     
  46. minish

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    Does the X1 come with 4 cell and 6 cell options?
     
  47. lead_org

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    the internal battery is 4 cells Li Polymer, you can get an external battery to double the battery time.
     
  48. prowisar

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    Originally Posted by prowisar
    hi all ) i from Russia sorry my english not good ) i buy lenovo x1 (1286cto) but change hdd and lost recovery partitition from old can sombody help and give me iso recovery for x1 plz ) thks....
    you have to write your specs for someone to upload their partition if the specs coincide

    1286cto (Intel Core i7-2640M 4 GB DDR3 128SSD WiMAX 6250 MC8355 – Gobi 3000 )
     
  49. Poedua

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    Do you think buying an X1 today is still a smart move given the X2 is on the horizon ?

    Reason I ask is because my daughter ( who's a freshman in college ) wants to get an X1 ......and right away.:laugh: She's not a MAC fan...or a power user of any kind ( no movies, games etc.....mostly just MS Office and surfing / e-mail. downloading music etc. ).

    Until this past weekend, she was borrowing her brothers T400 ( but had to give it back ) and she now loves the keyboard / build quality of Lenvo laptops. She saw an X1 in a store this past weekend and fell in love with it ( screen glass, overall look / build quality, performance, keyboard, smaller than a T420, ... especially the camera, finger print reader etc. )

    BUT she's very spooked by the battery issues as you cited. I'm wondering if she should just sit tight and maybe just pick up a used T61 or X 200 series for cheap to tide her over for now until the X2 becomes available ( I don't when that'd be..do you know ? ) Or, given she's not a power user of any sort, maybe just get the extra battery for the X1 as the simpler way to go instead.

    Welcome any thoughts you'd have on the ' go with the X1 now vs. wait for X2 later ' options.
     
  50. csclifford

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    Personally if I were you I'd just get her something cheap to hold her over until the next generation of the X1 comes out. Currently for such a high price, the X1 is definitely not worth the $1,400 it costs.

    With the lack of battery life, low screen resolution, and large footprint, I'd wait for the next generation.

    If she likes the look of the macbook pro but doesn't like OSX, then I'd also look at the IdeaPad U300/U300s/U400 series. They have the great lenovo build quality, terrific keyboard, and pretty good battery life.
     
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