ThinkPad X240

Yep, the 90W will be plenty strong enough -- twice as strong as the adapter included with the laptop, so it may recharge the batteries faster, though that depends on whether the internal circuitry can take advantage of the extra power available.

 

Ah, that's good news, thanks! I've really liked the keyboards on the T series.

I ordered one today, it's supposed to ship April 4 and get here April 11 - I hope these are conservative estimates and that it gets here faster so that I can compare it side by side with the Dell XPS 13.

I wonder what everyone else's experience has been with these shipping estimates.

 

I ordered my X240 touch FHD i5 4300u, 8 GB, 256 SSB, Windows 7 on 2/25 with an estimated ship date of 3/13. Sure enough 3/13 came around and I check my status and it switched to an estimated ship date of 3/20. I contacted Lenovo support and they told me a part delay caused this. They gave me $50 towards anything on the Lenovo site. Yesterday was 3/20 and I checked my status date. Now it is moved to 4/1. I am very frustrated with Lenovo and I am considering cancelling. The only thing keeping me from not cancelling is that I've waited this long, may as well wait it out. Also, I currently have a macbook pro and no other windows laptops really appeal to me like a thinkpad. Should they give me a discount?? This is so frustrating!!

PS. I ordered my X240 with the touch FHD (it does not come in a non-touch and I wanted the better screen) and Windows 7 since I really dislike Windows 8. This may be a stupid question, but will the touch function work with Windows 7??

Thanks guys!

 

Yep, this seems to be the norm these days; it's really bad. I bought an LT1423p last year, and it was pushed back for more than a month in small increments like this. Whether or not you should cancel is really up to you.

Yes it will.

 

thank you!!

 

Is there any way to confirm this? I just got my X240, and the regular keys are more tightly spaced than on my desktop keyboard and my T420s keyboard . I find this extremely annoying... and I'd switch my X240 for a T440s - but I'm not sure if the T440s has the proper key size/spacing or not either.

http://forum.notebookreview.com/lenovo/748604-x240-keyboard-not-full-size-what-about-t440s.html

 

I have measured the keyboard of my T440s and compared it with the keyboard of a T420: Both are exactly the same size, except for the missing 7th row of course. So yes, the T440s definitely has a full-size keyboard.

 

If you get a chance, can you make a measurement? Like from the left edge of the A key to the left edge of the ; key or to the Enter key, or something similar? It would give me a bit of piece of mind before I order.

 

Hi, I have the same issue. I have an x240 with Debian jessie 3.13, I suspend and hibernate via systemd. I see the issue not only after suspend, but also after hibernate and sometimes after shutdown... I am not sure if it is always the same problem and if it actually depends on the OS. I just updated the BIOS to the latest version, I will see if this helps.

Did you find a solution? And what do you do when your laptop does not power on? I usually need to long press the power button a couple of times (sometimes a lot of times) or wait 10 minutes.

Thanks.

 

That should definitely NOT affect your decision to order it or not.

I've been using an MSI Wind since it came out, and that thing has a 10" screen. It took me less than a week to get fully comfortable and used to its keyboard. The keyboard on the X240 should be the same in that regard, but even less so.

 

Well my problem is that I work on 3-4 different computers every day - and they all have full size keyboards - so when I sit down at the X240 my first 15 minutes of typing are full of mistakes. Basically my pinkies partially rest on the caps lock and ' key, instead of the A and ; key as they would on a standard-spaced keyboard. It's only 1/3 of an inch difference, but I find it sufficiently annoying to consider swapping the X240 for a T440s (assuming it has a standard-spaced keyboard like the T420s I also currently use).

In the grand scheme of things, it's a small detail on an otherwise perfect laptop - but I don't want to have to put up with compromises on an $1800 machine. If I wanted compromises, I could just get a laptop from Best Buy for $700. I'm also slightly annoyed that Lenovo claims and advertises on their website that the keyboard is "full-size" (minus the shrunken right column of course), when in fact the width of the keyboard is actually noticeably less - and this false advertising bothers me. There's plenty of space on either side of the X240 keyboard to have standard-spacing of the keys... so it confuses me as to why the keyboard has to be shrunk at all in the first place.

I guess I've now joined the club of people here and elsewhere whining about Lenovo's new "form over function" design philosophy change. /hides head

 

Sure:
- Left edge of the A key to the left edge of the ";" key (I have a German keyboard, so this is Ä): 17 cm

The T440s keyboard is full-size. It is the same size as the older keyboard in the T430(s) minus the ThinkVantage bar with the audio keys. This was the same size as the classic keyboard in T420(s), since you could retrofit a T430s keyboard into the T420s and the other way around. So basically, the size is the same. This non-full size keyboard of the X240 is only used with 12.5" and 11.6" ThinkPads (ThinkPad Helix, THinkPad Yoga, ThinkPad Twist, X240(s)).

Just look how thin the keyboard-bezel is and how much space the keyboard takes (vertical): They keyboard would collide with some of the ports. You can see this very good with this picture (it a X240s, but X240 should be no different in this aspect):

See how thin that bezel is? There would be no room left for the LAN port for example if the keyboard would be full-size like it is on the T440s.

 

Thanks for measuring. And yes, you're right, there would be a problem with making room for the port(s) - that didn't occur to me, though it probably should have.

 

Here are a couple comparison pics between the Macbook air 11 haswell vs the x240 before I got rid the x240. Lenovo's depot service was too frustrating for me to deal with any longer.

 

Why the x240 so fat?

 

Thanks. Best picture I've seen yet that shows the size. Really appreciate the effort since I've been struggling with ordering one.

You chose the Air instead?

 

The design of MBA is deceptively thin as the thiness is only in the edge by which common people perceive it by the look. If you take the specs and compare the maximum height the difference is only 2.8mm (0.11 inch). X1C has the similar design but this design doesn't make it any more useful.

 

I haven't. Inquiry with lkml people has yielded no useful infomation. I assume you meant "my laptop does not resume" and I just power it off by long press. I've never waited 10 minutes for this which might be an interesting idea to try out. I don't use Linux kernel for hibernation because the firmware supports Intel Rapid Start Technology which is basically firmware level hiberation which automatically triggers after several hours of suspend-to-ram. I've never had this problem when cold booting. Currently I have to disable suspend-tp-ram and power it off after use.

 

Yeah I went with the 11 inch air. I've probably sent in recent thinkpads at least 10+ times for warranty repairs over the past couple years and I'm done with doing this. Also, I wasn't a big fan of the keyboard and touchpad redesigns of the latest generation.

Macs seems to be some of the few computers that have a solid keyboard and they aren't nearly as expensive as before. A well speced T440s is now similar in cost to a mid-tier rMBP 13.

 

A bunch of X240's listed in the Outlet, all are 1366 X 768, and they are running a sale as well. Someone might find a good deal. I've all but moved on at this point.

 

About a month or so ago, I posted that I had not seen any ghosting on my X240 FHD touchscreen. Sadly, this is not true anymore. Today I was shutting down the machine and noticed the windows taskbar and chrome tabs 'ghost' on the blue 'restarting' screen. Sigh.

 

Any news on a FHD IPS screen without touch? No online tech rep could answer this.

 

Going to return it?

 

Nothing so far. I'm interested in that myself.

Two things:

Can anyone show a screen shot of where in the BIOS you set the function keys to the default? I never use the brightness, volume, etc. keys. If I read correctly, the 240 defaults to these and not F1, etc. I would have to change that first thing.

Anyone with a long term usage of the X240 care to chime in? How has it held up? Are you as happy with it as when you purchased it? Anything drive you nuts about it?

 

Lenovo Thinkpad X240 & Xubuntu [splitbrain.org]

 

According to the parts number list from Lenovo ther is no FHD IPS non-touch for the X240:

 

Well at least in Germany there are multiple models with non-touch FHD available.
Example: http://www.campuspoint.de/lenovo-thinkpad-university-x240-20ams21c00.html

 

Yeah, as far as I can tell, this has only been a regional option, which is super, super lame. I really wanted an x240 with a non-touch FHD.

 

Has anyone replaced the 16GB M.2 SSD with a higher capacity? I'm curious, if in an emergency, I can run an OS off the M.2 only, should something befall the 2.5.

 

I have a question, how come its taking so long for Lenovo to get the specs correct on the X240 web site. I mean they just now finally today took out that it has a 24mm expresscard slot. I've heard people returning systems when they found out the hard way that it does not have expresscard support.

Their web site still shows that it has 2 USB 3 and one always on USB 2. To make matters worse, I called them up and sales said the third USB port is in the back. But chat support says that's not true. Is lenovo intentionally lying about ports to cover up the lack of ports compared to the X230? I mean how long has the X240 been out and the web site still says this:

Mini DisplayPort with audio
VGA
3.5 mm Combo Jack Headphone / MIC
2x USB 3.0, USB 2.0 (Always-on USB 2.0)
4-in-1 SD card reader (SD / SDHC / SDXC / MMC slot)
Smart card reader

I wonder how many people returned systems from the errors on the web site.

So what is it? 2 or 3? I'm still not sure. And without expresscard to add more USB ports, two seems inadequate for a Thinkpad.

 

The Lenovo website (and a lot of Lenovo documentation) definitely has errors, but I suspect it's incompetence much more than maliciousness.

That being said, the x240 has two USB ports, one on each side.

 

That"s what I thought. After seeing the miss print on the spec sheet on Lenovo.com and the sales rep telling me exactly where it was on the back I was wondering what is going on here. That's kind of scary. I mean if the site reports it wrong, and the sales confirms it, they have problems to say the least. Thanks for clearing that up. X240 definitely off my list now. Its too compromised. It should not be called a Thinkpad anymore. Its an ultrabook.

 

my experiences so far with my x240, which i got 5 weeks ago...

configuration: i5-4200u, 8gb ram, 180gb ssd, fullhd-non-touch display, kubuntu 13.10 (+ tlp for power management).

everything is working fine. display is absolutely great. also got the additional 72wh rear battery: a little bit bulky, but absolutely ok for me - in my use-case the x240 will run minimum 13h when working continuously with wlan on (i charge the batteries only up to 90%). as i am not working continously, 20-25h are no problem...
read a lot about the fan sounding like a jet: most of the time it is off... when it is on, it is definetely not loud or sounding annoying - but have to admit, that my x240 had never to use it's full performance.
only thing i would like to have improved: the maximum volume of the speakers is definetely too low for me (may be connected to kubuntu?)...

summary: after 8 years with my beloved samsung q35, i think to have found an adequate successor...

 

How did you get your FHD non-touch display? Do you live in Germany?

 

you were close: austria

 

Sweet. I'm on my 6th year of my MSI Wind. It's still working, but it's getting really slow. I had to fix it with superglue, too, lol.

The X240 would be a perfect replacement/upgrade. I'll get it with the i5, 8GB and the whole shebang. Then I'll add a 1TB SSD to it and another 512GB M.2 SSD.

 

there are 3 m.2-slots - but be sure, that one is really empty: one is used by the wlan-adapter, another one will not be available if the x240 is ordered with the smartcard-reader, the last one will also be used if you order a wwan-adapter.

furthermore: afaik the m.2.slot can only be used by ssd-cards, that are not longer than 42mm (mydigitalssd 128gb and intel pro 1500 120gb)!

 

Thanks for the review. If I may, not having a X240 myself, how do you like the Trackpad? Can you use it Macbook style for clicks, push down anywhere, or are you bound to use the upper portion of the Pad where Lenovo marked out the button outlines?

 

i might not be the right person for reviewing the touchpad as i'm using the x240 with a mouse most of the time... and i never worked on a macbook

nevertheless (keep in mind that i'm using kubuntu 13.10): there are no dedicated buttons, the whole touchpad is a button! using linux there are ways to configure the touchpad for your needs, but as the touchpad works for me in the standard-configuration, i didn't change anything till now...

i read a lot about trackpoint-users complaining about the new touchpad - especially they are missing the dedicated buttons at the upper area of the touchpad. i am not working with the trackpoint, but afaik you can improve the situation (again: using linux) by modifying the configuration and / or disabling the touchpad-function in the bios (so that the upper area of the touchpad only works as buttons)...

 

Thanks. It sounds like you really enjoy the device.

furthermore: As far as I know the m.2.slot can only be used by ssd-cards, that are not longer than 42mm (mydigitalssd 128gb and intel pro 1500 120gb)!

Thanks for that tip. Are those the only brands you know if in the small form factor?

 

got this info from a german forum - don't know, if there are others available...

 

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00EC50A0O?ie=UTF8&at=&force-full-site=1&ref_=aw_bottom_links

Not a bad price and a respectable amount of storage. Almost makes me want to loose the 2.5 altogether and save some weight.

We have a thread on it:

http://forum.notebookreview.com/ide...ase-post-any-42mm-m-2-hdd-you-have-found.html

http://www.thessdreview.com/our-rev...exploring-m-2-without-fnet-hybridisk-caching/

http://www.thessdreview.com/daily-n...-m-2-ssd-variant-storage-visions-2014-update/

 

I just ordered an x240 with 128 gb SSD. Unfortunately I just realized that I did not opt for the smart card reader. Just wanted to see if you know how much space the x240 has after windows and whatever else they install.

I do plan on upgrading in August for my bday to a 512 gb SSD but wanted to know if Windows will be fine with this for now. Also, is it easy to do these upgrades yourself(i read that the ssd on x240 are user upgradeable)?

 

So if I order it with wwan and not a smartcard reader, I still have one spare, right?

 

If you are one to use the trackpoint, and hard mouse buttons the virtual ones on the X240 can never be as good as the real buttons. With the X230 the top buttons are large and easy to access. They make zero noise when depressed and very easy to push down. You never will have miss registration with the old design that's why some don't like the virtual ones. Other makers that still have the track point still have the top mouse buttons. Just look at the new HP z book on the front page of this site. It has the hard buttons. Toshiba still has many business machines with trackpoint and hard buttons. Once you go to virtual buttons you might as well take out track point. Basically, if you want to use the X240 with trackpoint/virtual buttons you should look at HP and Toshiba. Most people that like the X240 either use mouse, or just the clickpad without bothering with the trackpoint. Lenovo might as well take out the trackpoint at this point if they want to continue with this new design.

This is the first generation of the new thinkpad. IMO, they will learn from their mistakes. Look for the return of the hard buttons or the end of track point on the next generation. Personally, I would not buy any new lenovo for the same reason I don't buy a new model of a car on its first year of introduction. Two major flaws on the X240 is only two USB which is pretty bad for a business machine. Believe me, you will want that third USB and find yourself unplugging devices and plugging them back to make room. The virtual mouse buttons with trackpoint will never be as good as real buttons. The virtual ones make more noise, take more effort to depress, and don't work 100 percent of the time like the old real buttons. These are the two biggest flaws on the X240.

Just to give you an example, if you use a portable USB powered optical drive you will need a extender cable to reach the other side's USB cable instead of just using a Y connector cable. You will need two USB's to burn CD's. To read one would be enough. That's why I like two USB on one side and 1 on the other. With the X240 you only have 2 on opposite sides of the machine. So if you like to burn CD's with a portable USB optical drive this is the worst design imaginable. Also, if you use a mouse make sure you buy a BT one so you don't take up half your USB ports.

Basically, this is just another ultrabook with the added benefit of a VGA port. If your ok with that, then go for it.

 

Can someone answer this one?

 

Question about the function lock:

Does it really flip the end and insert keys? The user manual makes it sound like function lock only flips F1 to F12, not the other keys that have a fn special function.

 

As far as I know it only flips the F1-12 keys.