ThinkPad X240

Great! Now I only have to wait for the FHD touch version.
I hope they will sell the FHD touch versions before the introduction of broadwell.

 

Seriously... I am ready to give them my money; they just don't want to take it...

 

Looks like there will be no FHD for x240 according to Lenovo staff on x240 product Q&A page.

 

That's disappointing. After spending weeks of doing research and buying and trying a lot of different laptops (Acer S7, Vaio Pro, and Yoga 2 Pro), I finally thought I'd settle on the X240 with FHD and now it isn't going to happen. I guess I could still for for a Thinkpad Yoga as the MS Store has it for a good price (a lot cheaper than Lenovo's site) but I don't really need a tablet mode and wanted something light.

Or just live with the lower screen resolution but I don't really want to compromise on that.

 

Actually, 1366x768 is not a bad resolution for a 12.5 inch screen. You will still have to scale down to get readable text.

Or, check out HP Spectre 13t-3000.

Good luck, Jim

 

You know, I always felt this way--until I picked up a Helix. All I can say is "I don't feel like that any longer!". Even with the text blown up to 150%, text is still much more clear and crisp with the 1080P screen. Now, my X230 just looks grainy. I know, first world problems...

I can see both the T440S and the TP Yoga cannibalizing a lot of X240 sales. The only reason I went w/the T230 vs the T430 was the IPS screen, and I'll bet I'm not alone. If one is looking at a T240, both TP Yogal looks like a pretty good option.

 

Yeah. In theory I had no issues with 1366x768 on my x120e but I had some programs that wouldn't fit on the screen fully when I ran them which was a real pain. Plus, when I RDP to my desktop (which I have two Dell 27inch monitors connected to), I really appreciate as much resolution as I can get (less adjusting to resize apps and such). Admittedly the Yoga 2 Pro has more resolution than I need but 1080p is really I think the new minimum.

 

There is/will be a FHD option! The question the Lenovo staff is refering to, if buying a HD laptop now and upgrade it with a FHD screen later.

Like ibmthink has postet before, the first FHD Thinkpads are on sale in Germany already (1-2 weeks delivery in most stores) but are currently reserved to students and educational facilities. When I compare it to the T440(s/p) and the non FHD X240 availability, I estimate the non student versions will come out in about 3-8 weeks.

 

I heared that the FHD option is reserved for business and students only, but don't worry ... they will eventually be available.



BTW: the X240 has a 9.5mm drive and the T440s has 7mm? I don't get it.

Source

 

AFAIK there is no 7mm HDD, or massively and recently deployed 9.5mm SSD.
Normally for me 7mm=ssd and 9.5mm=hdd. Dell E7440 has a 5mm HDD which is pretty new.

 

Sorry I expressed myself unclearly.

What I mean was, that it's interessting that the X240 has a 9.5mm slot for HDD and the T440s has only an 7mm slot for SSD. The reason I am asking is, the X240 is smaller and has a bigger slot and the bigger T440s has only 7mm slot?

Is this correct or does the T440s has also a 9.5mm slot?

What do you do, when you want to insert a 7mm SDD in a 9.5mm slot? How do you prevent the SSD from dancing in your notebook?



Cheers

 

Can someone comment on FHD (1920x1080) on a 12.5" screen? I am very interested in the X240 but am wondering what FHD will look like on a 12.5" screen. I have used the X230 before and was O.K. with it, but the FHD intrigues me since I need screen real-estate but I also need portability.


What I will be using it for will be primarily Microsoft Office, Mathematica, Visual Studio, and Internet...

 

It is awesome. End of story.



But really, it varies from person to person; the best thing you can do is go to a local Fry's or Microcenter, take a look at some of the FHD laptops of comparable sizes, and see if you like it or don't like it.

 

The T440s has main drive bay that takes up to 9.5mm drives. All Thinkpads have a drive "carrier" in the main bay that attaches to the drive so whatever the drive height it will fit snugly. I have a 7mm SSD in my T440p main drive bay, for example, and the carrier ensures it fits exactly the same as a 9.5mm drive would.

 

Well... Its on order (as of 1/8)... Its been sitting as "Sent for Manufacturing" for a few days.. I hope it will be shipped on 1/16 (the est ship date)..

 

I was in the camp that FHD was totally unnecessary on a 12.5 screen. I thought 1,366x768 was plenty, particularly with my failing eyes. The truth is, the FHD screen is way better. My Helix is FHD on an 11.6 screen, and it's way more crisp. I run the text at 150%, because otherwise the text is just way too small. That makes it roughly the same size as the text on my X230, but much more crisp. Everything just looks better.

As far as whether or not it will buy you real estate, that's totally going to depend on your eyesight. I can actually run the 11.6 FHD in the native resolution, but I'd get a headache after about 30 minutes from eye strain.

That said, if you really need screen real estate and portability, I'd consider a portable USB monitor. That's what I did, and it was a total game changer.

 

The font is completely readable! I checked the UHD resolution from the Samsung Ativ Book 9 Plus with 3200x1800 resolution at 13.3" (iirc) and even that resolution is somewhat readable from 40cm. So FHD on a 12.5" screen will be completely good to go. I even have -2.5 dioptres on each eye.


FHD on 12.5" will be perfect. I'm just waiting for the FHD touch. *mad*

I just can't stand it any longer ... the battery of my Clevo notebook holds it's charge for stunning ... 5 seconds (!!). It's driving me insane. I hope the X240 will fulfill all my needs.

 

Few hours ago I called one lenovo supplier from Germany. I asked them when they will list the X240 FHD touch on their site. He told me that they talk nearly every second day with lenovo and he will forward my question.

He also said that, there is a major meeting every 4 weeks, where the retailer and lenovo talk about stuff e.g. the delivery times, if new models are needed etc.

So I guess we will know more at the end of the month. When there will be no reaction by the retailer I will call after 3 weeks again and write an update here. Don't forget this applies to *one* retailer form Germany. I can only tell you what they will have in stock.



So ... I hope lenovo will _finally_ release the FHD touch model at the end of January. Stay tuned!

 

I use a Thinkpad Yoga FHD on 12.5". Windows 8 desktop mode only, 100% font scaling. It's great, no issues with text size at all, and I hardly have perfect vision. I'd even consider going a bit higher res with no scaling, but I'd have to try first.

 

Just got my X240 (i5 4300U, IPS touch) today in the 20AL008JUS configuration.

It's a bunch thinner than my X220 i5 IPS laptop that I'm replacing. I expecting the new combo button-less touchpad would be terrible but I'm pleasantly surprised with it's feedback and sound.

Only big drawback is that the function keys are all flipped on the keyboard. Right now I have my keyboard on "function lock" but my "end" key config is flipped with insert.

Feel free to ask me questions regarding the x220 vs x240.

 

The Lenovo US site already lists the X240 with FHD touch options but the configurator tool hasn't been updated yet. I guess we arent far away from its actual availability in US/Canada

ThinkPad X Series | Thin & Light Business Laptops | Lenovo (US)

EDIT: Annddd...the US site is live with the X240 FHD with touch display

 

Now I wonder how long it will be before it is ready in Canada... Or just order it and drive down to the States to pick it up. Would be nice if there was a non-touch option but I'll take what I can get.

EDIT: They really are charging a lot for the screen upgrade. I guess it may come down over time but you can get a better spec'd Thinkpad Yoga from the Microsoft Store for less.

 

It is already available in the Canadian site! The website does not reflect it, but when you go in to configure the system, you are able to choose the IPS FHD touch screen. The price for the FHD upgrade is the same but in Canadian Dollars. Go ahead, try it out

 

ugh, so close yet so far... I'm holding out for the possibility of a non-touch FHD option. The price is really steep for this, and I really don't want the extra weight of the touch component.

 

Well, see it like that: The Touchscreen adds maybe a bit more weight, but also more protection (protects the screen from being scratched) and more stiffness to the Display-unit. And it is still lighter than the X220/X230....

If I would buy a T440s again, I would try to get one with a Touchscreen...

 

A bigger problem for me is that it also adds glare. Yes, I am aware that Lenovo touchscreens are not as glossy as some others, but I would still vastly prefer a proper matte screen...

 

How effective is the antiglare on x240 touch vs. the matte x220 screen? It would be great if you could post some side-by-side pictures...

 

A screen protector can be a good investment.

 

Thanks, but no thanks. These things are a pain in the a.. to apply perfectly on a cell phone. Applying one on a 12.5" screen without getting a single dust particle, hair, etc. under the protector is impossible as far as I'm concerned. I tried it on a 12" Dell years ago and the results were ugly.

 

Anybody know the manufacturer of the FHD panel on this one? LG v/s AUO?

 

The anti-glare on the x240 touch laptop is very effective but it's much harsher than the x220's matte finish, almost to the point where white backgrounds seem a tad fuzzy. The best way I can describe the x240 touch's anti-glare is that it's very similar to the harsh matte finishes on the older Dell Ultrasharp IPS U2311H monitors.

Personally, I'm ok with the matte finishing on the x240 but I'd imagine some people to write it off as excessive.

My camera is broken so I can't do side by side pictures.

 

Where can you get a screen protector for the X240?

 

Can someone tell me if the X240 is still limited to 4GB of RAM?

 

I believe that it has to do with limited stock of the 8GB models.

On that note, it's currently available again on the Lenovo US site. I just put my order in for the FHD system with 8GB and have a ship date of Jan 29th. Using the coupon code 7DAYDEALS i got a pretty good discount of about 18%. The only thing left to order now is a sleeve case and a 500 GB SSD.

Is this SSD compatible with the X240? If so I'll be ordering soon. Amazon.com: Samsung Electronics 840 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5-Inch SATA III Notebook Kit Version Internal Solid State Drive MZ-7TE500LW: Computers & Accessories

 

I'm really disappointed, don't even know what to upgrade my X201 to anymore. I was hoping to get an X1 carbon, but I don't like the lack of function keys. For the X240, I would have rather had soldered-on 8GB dual channel memory like the X1 Carbon rather than a single DIMM with 8GB max. And now for the screen it seems there's no option for FHD non-touch.

Maybe I'll just wait for the Broadwell Thinkpads, and if they don't get their act together I'll have to start searching elsewhere.

 

This should work fine. Everyone in my family is using Samsung SSDs.

My sentiments exactly. I really want to get rid of my x220t, but they just aren't letting me do it.

 

Thanks, that's encouraging! I've had two Dell Ultrasharp monitors so I know what you mean.

We don't know that. While Lenovo US indeed only lists the FHD MT option, the tabook for Western Europe clearly lists models with regular FHD panels as well. See http://www.lenovo.com/psref/pdf/tabook_WE.pdf, page 174. So there is hope...

 

If you find some other laptop with Haswell CPU, non-glossy FHD IPS screen, in a 12-13" form factor, with decent battery life, be sure to share. I've been looking around and so far found nothing...

 

The FHD touchsceen is also non-glossy on the X240.

 

Right, I assumed as much, but thanks for the confirmation. I would still prefer a non-touchscreen option, if only to save the $200 that Lenovo charges for the to me useless touchscreen (compare the HD+ panel prices to see what I mean).

BTW, have people noticed how little the upgrade from the 3cell to 6cell battery costs? It's only 5 bucks at Lenovo US! I realize that the 6cell battery sticks out at the bottom, but I assume one can always run with only the internal battery for ~3-4h, making that an "ultralight" configuration when long battery life is not needed?

 

Just ordered one with the FHD Touch screen, I received a confirmation email with a shipping estimate is january 27th. Can't wait!

Lenovo's website has been totally revamped since I ordered my X200s five years ago, but some things will never change: when I log into my account and click on "View my orders", it takes me to an IBM error page.... So I have no way to check the status of my order right now.

I want to replace the default hard drive with an SSD and was thinking about the Sandisk X210. I can get it for cheaper than the Samsung 840pro and just a little bit more than de Crucial M500. What do you guys think? Here's on of the first reviews, where it looks almost as fast as the Samsung with a lower power consumption than the Crucial:

SanDisk X210 - SSD Review - Tom's Hardware

 

What's the best bang for the buck processor? I'll be keep ing my X240 for the next couple years.

I also need to find a good price on a 256 SSD...

 

Hmm the FHD X240 for $1,244.00 or comparable Thinkpad Yoga 8gig/256SSD from Costco for $1,199?

Surely there is someone who has a strong opinion here!

Edit: nevermind, the Costco deal is gone. Must have sold them all.

Edit2: Got the $1,244 config down to $1,141 with B&N Gold. Veeery tempting!

 

I agree. I also don't need or want a FHD touch screen. I don't want to pay for something that I will rarely use.

 

First of all, this is a road-warrior laptop and due to the low ability to dissipate heat as good as 1.5" thick laptops, they had to switch to ULV processors. Which in turn increases the battery life ... again for a laptop which is designed to be a road warrior.

Do you know how much increase in speed the dual-channel RAM gives you in reality? Only 2-3%. Sure, when you really rely on RAM heavy tasks like video editing on a 12.5" screen .. then OK 8GB single-channel might not be sufficient for you. But contrary to your beliefs, the X240 is a slim roadwarrior laptop and by only having one ram you decrease the power consumption further.

I am willing to pay the extra charge, just because I think that the touch version adds more stability to it, many users reported that they encounter problems with the glued-on bezel detaching from the display, makes the display cleaning much easier and the colors are brighter and more colorful than on the non-touch version. OK - I admit it, when you work outside with it you will face problems. Other than that, I won't use the touchscreen. Occasionally maybe when reading in the bed. Oh yeah - the 300grams extra weight won't be the dealbreaker for me .. 1,5kg is light enough, don't you think?


I don't have any reasons NOT to buy this notebook, except the trackpad. I've tested it already .. it's fairly ok, but nevertheless I would rather have the old trackpad. Oh well, I hope you can replace it somehow or stuff something beneath the trackpad from preventing it from clicking. Or I will disable the cursor movement ability from it and will use the whole touchpad as left and right click.

 

Well, it might be a road warrior but it really bugs me that I can't install more than 8 GB of ram. Not that I need it today but what about 2016? I still use a x201 that works fairly well but it´s becomming a bit old. A ram upgrade to 8 GB increased the lifetime at least a year. The reason for me to buy a x240 is not just portability, it is the combination of excellent portability with a laptop that is wery usefull on the desktop. Just plug it in at the office and thats it. Just put it in the bag for out of office work or meetings.

Well, lets see what the future holds. If I was certain that I could upgrade the ram it would be a no brainer. 4 GB was enough when I bought my x201, it's not today.

 

Single 16gig DIMM would be the norm in a few years right? Is there a technical limitation preventing this RAM on a single chip in the X240?

Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk

 

Well the all the i5 and i7 models support up to 16GB ram .. but you would have to solder it on yourself

By the time you will need more than 8GB RAM ... DDR4 will be already on the market, which needs a new mobo anyways.




The only thing that REALLY bugs me is that it has worse speakers than T440s.

 

Well, adding ram is usually a smaller job than installing a new motherboard in a laptop... Not to mention the price. As stated, installing 8 GB ram in my x201 made it perfectly usable and if I'm looking to buy a x240 for $2000 a 16 GB Rampossibility is a requirement.

 

Correct me if I'm wrong but the RAM on the X240 is not soldered and can be replaced. So if you get a 4GB model you can later replace it for an 8GB module like this one from Crucial, which is actually sold for almost half the price of the 8GB option on Lenovo's configuration website:

8GB, 204-pin SODIMM, DDR3 PC3-12800 upgrades for Lenovo ThinkPad X240 Laptop/Notebook, CT4988523 from Crucial.com

If a 16GB module was available I'm pretty sure it would work too, like some users reported on previous Thinkpad that were not supposed to support them.

I'm not sure if that's considered a CRU and if it would void your warranty though.