ThinkPad X240s

Because the software is designed to take full advantage of that specific screen. Whereas, we're sitting here, hoping that Windows might do a passable job with a certain screen. (Likewise, Microsoft's "strategy" of one OS for all devices doesn't sound promising.)

Absolutely. And that requires more than a particular screen having a certain pixel resolution.

 

Sorry if this has already been covered but is it a matte or glossy screen? If matte this is finally the laptop I've been waiting for!

 

This is a ThinkPad, so the screen is of course matte. Maybe the Touch models will be Glossy, but the standard models without Touch come with matte screens.

 

Any mention of the X240? The X240s has some things I don't like too much, though it looks good overall. The X230 looks sweet right now but I have not heard of the X240 so I may wait for it. It probably means it won't be out at least for a couple of months.

 

There will be an X240 (Codename: Wolverine), this is confirmed: Lenovo Service Training Manuals Reveal Upcoming Product Model Numbers - Laptop User Reviews

 

Ha-ha! This post is simply quoting my finding http://forum.notebookreview.com/len...o-website-ips-screen-1080p-6.html#post9278326 that was made 7 days before it

Besides this document (it was removed from lenovo site though) there are no any other "official" signs

 

It looks like the T440p and T540p weren't just imaginary. My guess is:

T430->T440p (same thickness and peformance)
T430s->T440 (slimmer body)
T431s and T430u->T440s (ultrabook model)

but still no news on the flagships? (Carbon, Helix, Yoga?)

 

X240s has started appearing on internet shops here in Japan.
The basic i3 version starts from 143,000 JPY (1,428 USD).

 

non-touch FHD IPS matte screen, sign me up. windows 7 support/drivers would just be icing on the cake.

seems like the touch screen option adds some thickness and weight as well according to the service training manual

 

Looks good but no docking port. Any idea if the full X240 will have it?

If yes, will it work with the new docks (Basic/Pro/Ultra) or just with some UltraBase?

I'd like to use it with two external monitors connected to the two DP ports on the Ultra dock.

If not I might have to get the T440s.

 

That's not cleat yet. I hope so but for the new generation of docking solutions at Docks, Port Replicator, Ultrabase - Reference Guide Lenovo announced only T440s as compatible laptop. Let's keep an eye on that...

 

11.8 hour run time?

This site, and the Lenovo Japan site are quoting an 11.8-hour run time. I guess that means the "6 hour battery life" was meant for each battery. Hopefully anyway. Too bad it doesn't seem to have the Power Bridge tech the that T440s has.

 

Well, in some way, it has:

 

In one of the videos you can see what clearly looks like a place for the dock connector, right next to the WiFi card.

I suspect that the design of X240s and X240 is so similar that they're using the same system board layout in both and just leave out the dock connector for X240s.
Also, if that's the case, maybe the placement of the rear battery in X240s (rear, centered) is a hint that it will be removable in X240, like it is in T440s.

 

Any idea when these will be available to configure & purchase? Other than "some time in August."

 

Anyone speak Japanese? I used google translate and the page mentions 10 point multi-touch.. uh oh. Is the touch panel an option or is it the only way to get it?

edit: well.. way to go thecrafter. Next line mentions it's possible to reduce the weight if you go with SSD and forego the touch panel. Yay!

 

Post #16 has some nice slides that show the non-touch version is 2mm thinner and half a pound lighter.

can't wait to upgrade to this thing.

 

ThinkPad X240s officially released in Japan | Technology News

 

I wish they use PCIe ssd in this new line of laptops

 

Good. Better than the 11" MacBook Air...I was scared for a moment. LOL.

 

Do we know for a fact it's even coming out in the US? I'm so tired of Lenovo's vagueness to be honest. I've waited for the X230s for so many months and they never mentioned a US release and it looks like it was HK only from the start. I'd hate to waste time waiting for this and never had it come out either.

Need to replace my current X61s already (Q.Q)

 

Yeah im waiting for the x240 to come out

 

Oh geez it's those hinges again...

 

whats wrong with the hinges? i like that Thinkpads can open 180 degrees.

 

I'd be disappointed if it weren't released here. But there are software & drivers on the US site for the X240s. And Lenovo is having a sale on the X230, maybe clearing inventory? And since they skipped the X230s, and this is the new Haswell generation, it'd be surprising if they skipped the X240s here as well.

 

The user manual states that it uses a M.2 ssd.

 

I just want them to release, or at least announce the X240 already.
I am desperately waiting for "an X230" with Haswell and 900p or higher resolution (which should be the the x240).

X240s would be nice, if it wasn't for 8GB Ram Limit, ULV Processor and the lack of a proper docking station.

 

I would not mind an X230 myself. For the things I do, the Haswell update will not affect me since I can barely utilize the full processing power of Ivy Bridge or even Sandy Bridge processors. The X230 already gets 8-12 hours with the 9-cell battery. If I was purchasing today, I would wait for X240 simply because I want to see how the screen and the trackpad are. I haven't seen any mention of it but is there any possibility of a Quad core CPU in a X240? I doubt it since the X230 and X220 did not have it.

 

Unlikely, since it is hard to handle the cooling for a quad core CPU in such a small form factor as X240.

 

It's not hard, it's about 5-10$ more expensive (an extra heat pipe and a more robust fan), but the biggest problem is ... they don't wanna shoot themselves in the foot. Who would buy a T4xx/5xx if there's a smaller and lighter machine with a full blown quad core and Iris Pro, just as powerful as their top of the line W540 ?

 

All the quad core processors with Iris Pro graphics are 47w processors. You're looking at dissipating significantly more heat and sucking down significantly more power. Even though it may be inexpensive to get the processor cooling in there you'd end up with a much noisier laptop since the fan would be spun up constantly. The majority of people buying a 12.5" laptop are looking for something portable, cool and quiet. I just don't think the demand for a 12.5" powerhouse is great enough to warrant redesigning the cooling system around an option only a handful of people would take.

 

Problem is, most people are completely oblivious to the options they have. You can configure your 47W quad so that it would never draw more power than a dual-core when you need the battery life, and add another profile for docked or "powerhouse" mode. You can also tweak the fan profiles accordingly. I used to be able to get 6hr of battery from my M18xR2 with an overclocked quad to above 4GHz on all cores! It's just that the majority chooses to stay blind so that vendors can keep milking them.... *sigh* why do I even care.....

 

Using this logic, "who would buy a T5xx dualcore machine, if T4xx is available with the same CPU, is lighter etc.".

The answer to this question is "People who prefer physically larger display". 15.6" screen is 150%+ of physical screen real estate, 100% of the time. 12" is just too small for 1920x1080 and 100% scaling. And for multitasking, and many Windows applications, 100% scaling is the best.

The crowd who overclocks laptops etc. isn't generally buying Thinkpads anyway - there are better gaming machines than Thinkpads. And for many computation-intensive tasks the practical performance difference between a normal voltage dual core and quadcore is insignificant, compared to the difference between any laptop and a proper non-mobile workstation of the same generation.

 

Yeah, crazy logic! If cars were engines alone, who cares about two-seaters, sedans, minivans and trucks?

Annoying when personal preferences become "general wisdom." If people need a 15.6" screen, they will buy a notebook with 15.6" screen and possibly with Sandy Bridge i3 CPU, 4GB of RAM and 320GB 5400rpm HDD. Absolutely nothing wrong with that.

A computer that is useful for a particular purpose is not CPU alone.

 

Again, why would Lenovo go through all of that to appease the tiny minority of people who want a 12.5" powerhouse when the vast majority of people looking at a 12.5" laptop just want something portable?

 

And you would quickly realize that those who prefer larger screens at the same resolution, willing to sacrifice the mobility (provided that the performance is equal), - are the minority. Here's an example from my field. The company I work for has 4500 users and all of them/us have ThinkPads (T/W-series). Every one of us has a 2-3 monitor setup at work and never, I repeat, never works on the laptop screen in the office. It's inefficient. Now, being in the IT Ops, I cannot but notice the tendency. People want ultrabooks and the smaller/lighter - the better, so that they don't have to carry heavy bags to and from work all the time. During those brief periods when they need to vpn on the go, they are fine with a tiny screen. At home they can always hook it up to a monitor. Right now, we are debating on whether or not we should switch over to X-series to improve the situation. Up until now, the most compelling reason to stay at 14/15" was the extra performance (quadCORE + quadRO), but if vendors were to pack the same power in a smaller size machine, this would be a no brainer for us. It is also a no brainer for me that vendors would never do that...

 

A bunch of Japanese configs with prices ThinkPad X240s

There are no FullHD options in the list now. Availability in early August.

 

Great quad-core CPU, awesome high-end GPU, out-of-this-world high-density IPS, compact 13"-screen form factor.

Huge, heavy, ugly power brick.

 

Get a small, light, sexy 60w power brick to use on the go, when max performance is not needed. I've been doing that for years with W510 (primary PSU: 130W, secondary: 60W). Very convenient. Every problem can be solved, provided you really want to... Now, technically a 12.5 system with a 47W quad + HD 5200 would be fine with a 60W PSU.

 

this is the razer 150W power adapter. how did they do it.

 

holy crap.

 

Like I said, it can all be done if the vendors find it viable.

 

I would settle for a quadcore 14inch thinkpad but it looks like even that is off the table.

 

What will the weight be for the 4-cell battery configuration? The x201s weighed 1.1Kg.......

 

There are 2 internal 3-cell batteries. Would be interesting to see how easy it is to open up and remove one of them for lighter travel though. Each battery is supposed to last 5.9 hours.

Sucks we're into August and still no word on a US release, and the Lenovo Japan site doesn't even have a sale/config page yet.

 

So the concept of a 4-cell battery/a configuration lighter than the 6 cell battery, no longer exists?

Sorry- just re-read your post- they/one can definitely be removed?

 

not definitely, just saying it would be nice if that option were there. i don't always need 12 hours of battery life, so traveling with less weight would be nice.

 

how bout this?

90W replacement for X240s

 

I really dont get Lenovo- the whole point of the x240s is to be as light as possible- so they go and........... increase the minimum number of battery cells from 4 to 6 and make it heavier. Geniuses..... not

 

Well, with 1.28kg its still lighter than a 4-cell X230 (1.34kg), and it has a much bigger battery capacity (46Wh on the X240s vs. 28Wh on a 4-cell X230).