Thinkpad X220 Picture

Standard or optional?

 

That's the X200s. The s model X notebooks typically get the higher resolution display. Tablets and regular X220's will likely get the lower resolution as they always have. Not sure I'd want that resolution in a ~12" anyway, that's some pretty high pixel density.

 

I have see that res on the 13.1in Vaio Z and I found it to be acceptable, and I would think it would be alright on a 12.5in screen. Then again that could be because I am young and don't wear glasses and that why I find it acceptable. If that res becomes available on the X220 tablet with the outdoor screen, I will be fully sold once it out in their outlet store.

 

Man, Lenovo needs to discontinue the s and fold it into the regular model. What if I want the thinness of the X220s with the lower resolution of the X220? Can't have it. Also lowest voltage SB meaning you can get the X220s with 18W ulv's?

 

The T420 gets a "gold" rating in the SPC for "high tech equipment" according to this video: YouTube - Lenovo ThinkPad T420: First Laptop to Capture UL Environment Gold Rating

Also includes some passing shots of the T420.

Interesting to note though is that in the video description they noted the laptop to be released later this month. Does this mean that somehow the T400 series has avoided the chipset issues? Or is Lenovo shipping their updated series remarkably soon after they receive the new chipsets?

 

well probably Lenovo have a shorter lead time with their chipset level fixes for the new the intel sandy bridge problem.

Thinkpad is a money spinner for Lenovo, if they delay it too much, then there is a real likelihood that the core customer demographic may switch brand entirely, which is not going to look good on the group VP that manages the Think branded products.

 

No the wider you go at same inches the less real estate you have - simple math. A perfect square is most real estate.

And IMO 16:10 is already awful due to high levels of scrolling. I do work, text based work with a notebook, not game or watch movies..well not much movie watching at least.. 16:9 is a disaster for business use.

Here is a monitor area calculator I made for you in excel.

http://www.mediafire.com/?wikuwqe9peu8hqf

As you can see @12.1in
Current x201 @ 16:10 has 65.8 sqin
New x220 @ 16:9 would only have 62.56 sqin

Good ole 5:4 has a whopping 71.42 sq in!!

 

That principle would only apply if the horizontal pixel count was kept relatively constant while the aspect ratio became less wide.

In this case, the standard "plus" resolutions at this screen size have a constant vertical pixel count (1600x900, 1400x900), which means area would increase with a wider aspect ratio.

 

No the principle always applies. Wider less RE. Resolution is another matter entirely. If the pixel pitch is the same for two sizes in question you still have more pixels the more square the screen is.

 

Well with the logic that only physical real estate matters the Vaio Z's screen would be the exact same as any other generic 13.3" laptop screen (and perhaps even worse, as it's only 13.1")...

 

I wish they offered hi-res panel on regular X220, not only the slim one.

BTW, that Japanese page looks like pure speculations and nothing based on leaked info.

 

Previously this was possible. In other words getting a X200s either with 1280x800 or 1440x900 res.

What makes you so sure that this will not be possible for the X220s - assuming that there will be two resolution options. The product has not officially been launched yet, so everything is still speculation.

The X 's' models do not typically get the higher resolution display - this only applied to the X200 series, which could be had with both 1280x800 and Webcam or 1440x900 and no webcam. Prior to that, i.e. the X60s/X61s had 1024x768 res just like the non s versions.

The tablets have not always had the lower resolution. For the X200 series yes. But again, just go one step back to the X61 Tablet which could be had with 1024x768 or 1400x1050.

 

Apparently, there will be a X220s that is coming out equipped with 1600x900 resolution.

 

Any source? I'd definitely be interested in such a machine.

 

Well T machines are going to get 1600x900. History tells us then that'll be the res the X220s will get.

 

forum.thinkpads.com • View topic - News on Sandy Bridge X220s (yes "s", not the regular x220)

here you go.

 

But that thread is based on the same link that has been provided here, and there is nothing but pure speculation in that Japanese site.

 

hopefully the speculation proves correct.

 

It would certainly be nice, but that pixel density is most certainly pushing it as to whats acceptable for general use (without modifying dpi/text size).

I would probably still prefer the x220, if only for the HD3000 graphics that come with the full voltage processors, which is a pretty decent option without having to resort to dedicated graphics.

I certainly agree with Jay though, it would be great if we could mix/match more parts of the normal and s series of the x200 line. Offering The higher res panel in the normal model and/or the lower res panel in the s model would be nice, I don't see how it could be a problem. Or even better, including a full voltage processor in an s form factor. Probably not possible, but one can dream right?

 

Yes, the Japanese site clearly says that this is a "PREDICTION".
But I learned that prediction by people like lead_org on this forum is pretty reliable.

 

By tradition the x2xx s variants have always had the wxga and wxga+ option. Personally I don't mind the extra weight of the normal x series, I would rather prefer that the normal series had the wxga+ screen option or the hd+ option for the x220.

 

don't get your hopes up for HD+ on the X220s.

just sayin'.

 

darn it, then the X220s became just another X220 with a slightly longer battery life and less in weight... oh well, i guess my X200s is a keeper now.

 

I can imagine what a hunt might start for X201s with Core i7 LM CPU's and WXGA+ screens, perfect laptop Id say
Shame I cant afford one

 

The X200s is an option. They're pretty reasonable on eBay.

 

Some interesting information posted on the Lenovo forums from the "webinar" they did earlier:

Interesting to note is the lack of a x220s mentioned in any of the images of the release schedule. Is it going to be phased out or are some of its features going to merged into the x220?

Also you can really see the benefits of the SB cpus from the quoted battery life on the T420. Looks to be a solid refresh.

 

If accurate, that roadmap has an X1 set to be launched in May. I wonder if that's a new successor to the X2??s, which I would assume is less related to the thicker model. Maybe a smaller version of the X30? series, and more of a flagship than we've come to know from 's' models.

 

No. X1** series have been available for a while. It's "netbook-class" of ThinkPads. The X120e was announce a while ago, and reviews are already all over the web, for example

Lenovo ThinkPad X120e review -- Engadget

 

Well, the new 'instant resume' mode makes sense! I wonder, however, what will make the slate 'ThinkPad'ish' with neither the keyboard nor trackpoint on board?

 

Perhaps. It has been quite a while since the X201s was available to order directly on Lenovo.com. The size & weight differences between the s and non-s model are not significant traditionally. But what the s models typically offer were higher resolution displays (and thinner lids) and longer battery life (lower voltage CPUs).

 

Weight difference was significant between x200s and x200, quite big in fact.

 

The difference is about 0.3 lbs. Not significant by most people's standard.

 

Non soldiered cpu and I might have to find a way to get rid of my Acer for the X220.

 

Anyone know the pricing of the X220?

 

the X1 is a completely new model.   it's not an X100e/X120e.

look for details on it in a couple of months.

 

When you have other gadgets in your bag, that counts alot, because together with charger and other devices it builds up nicely.

 

Would you think that someone wanting an X220s should wait this one out?

 

If you walk around carrying the laptop the whole day, a 0.3-lb difference is very noticeable.

 

Shiny? Really? The main reason why I love business class is to get away from that shiny crap.

 

Needless to say, it depends on the person (and perhaps how fit he/she is).

I have been extensively walking/traveling/flying around with 1-2 laptops + accessories + documents for the last 7 years. 0.3 lbs would make no noticeable difference in my case - whether when carrying around 1 or 2 laptops.

 

I definitely agree that the plane wouldn't mind an extra 0.3 lbs.

 

I hope the 230nit spec listed for the T420 isn't true and that it doesn't apply to the T420s and tablets. That'd be ridiculous for an led screen, and I might leave Lenovo if that's really how bright the screen is. I'm also looking for improved contrast this time.

 

Actually, if a ThinkPad Slate is released the ThinkPad line will have come full circle. The original ThinkPad was a tablet based on the Pen Point OS from Go Corporation. The ThinkPad 700T was released in 1992 and I believe the first computer to carry the ThinkPad name:

Category:700T - ThinkWiki



Back in 1991 pen computing and the pursuit for the perfect pen based computer was all the rage, Apple, Go Corp and IBM duked it out and the "Pad" part of ThinkPad refers to the fact it was initially pen based. There's a good book about all this called "Startup" http://www.amazon.com/Startup-Silicon-Adventure-Jerry-Kaplan/dp/0140257314

 

So what you are saying is... You are not very fit?

 

You guys are debating 0.3lbs..seriously? I could barely tell the difference between a T400 and T410s which is around 1lb. Anything more might be noticeable.

 

Well, I can feel the difference between my Acer 1830T (3.1lbs) and my 3810T (3.5lbs), but that is with them in my hands. In a backpack, I wouldn't care.

 

I want to know the same thing, but I more interested in the X220t.

 

it's difficult to say.   it's in a different class than the X220 series and won't be direct competition.   whether it will fit your needs, i don't know.   expect to see some noteworthy features that many people will like and some won't.   no matter what, the X1 will certainly turn heads.

that's about as descriptive as i can get at this point in time.   it's still considered an unannounced product.

 

Can you at least give us a clue or hint to as if the keyboard will be more traditional thinkpad or will it be more akin to the X1x0 series and Edge? Or if you know maybe you can at least mention the the screen size range, and/or if there will be a tablet model.

 

With a name as dramatic as 'X1' I can only assume it's supposed to be something like a Macbook Air since there isn't anything else cutting edge in design at the moment. If that's what it is, let's hope it falls into MBA price range.